Puella Magi Madoka Magica
| Yeah its overrated. It isn't a deconstruction fyi, just an edgy magical girl show. |
| Nah, i don't think so. *Waiting for the "discussion" of the thread* |
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| Nah...the TV series has got one of the most satisfying endings. |
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| I dunno, I'll found out later today whether its good or not, I figured I'd watch it since its Walpurgisnacht tonight. |
| It might be a little overrated? probably, but at this point, even HxH (2011) its overrated. |
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Feaor said: I dunno, I'll found out later today whether its good or not, I figured I'd watch it since its Walpurgisnacht tonight. Don't forget, it is the anime equivalent of Faust. Take notes. |
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PoeticJustice said: Yup I'm aware and I've read Faust relatively recently (maybe like 5 months ago?) so I'll be interested to see what it actually incorporates beyond the obvious Faustian Bargain.Feaor said: I dunno, I'll found out later today whether its good or not, I figured I'd watch it since its Walpurgisnacht tonight. Don't forget, it is the anime equivalent of Faust. Take notes. |
gedata said: Who cares People cares about everything. |
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PoeticJustice said: Who cares? Who...caaaaaaaareeees? This isn't aimed at you Poetic, but holy smokes I wish people would stop basing this show's entire worth on whether it deconstructs or not.Yeah its overrated. It isn't a deconstruction fyi, just an edgy magical girl show. @ Topic - Nonsense, Madoka Magica is fully deserving of its praise. It brilliantly explores the contrast between hope and despair and lends insight into the humanity (and dehumanization) of both. I don't see the need to compare it to shows that really have no relation to it. Even Tutu's entire premise was entirely different as its focus was more on fairy tales and the role of characters within the story, not on the role of a magical girl herself. |
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| wrong forum, should be in its own sub-forum |
| My Reviews and Rants: http://bunny1ov3r.wordpress.com/ 痛就是爱 |
| Meh characters Good concept Interesting ending Great animation and ost. Overrated but not as bad as some people would have you believe. |
| i prefer read it manga version rather than anime, dunno exactly why but from what i remember, i think it anime have slow start and disturbing sound. |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
PoeticJustice said: Yeah its overrated. It isn't a deconstruction fyi, just an edgy magical girl show. Says the School days fan :3 Nah seriously. I love the show a damn lot but it has an issue with its pacing. Events seem to happen much faster than the associated character development. So it has a kind of rushed structure that makes certain tragic/emotional moments fall flat. |
| Okay serious question, why would it matter if Madoka Magica gets "too much praise"? Who sets the bar for quality and tells people to stop praising one series for another? Why point it Hunter x Hunter when it was in one of its weakest arcs in 2011? |
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| yeah kind of overrated, there is nothing new in there tbh. and first few eps were even bit boring. i kinda liked the Rebellion movie better |
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| I love everything about it, but the 3rd movie was kinda weird. |
WingsOfValor said: I love everything about it, but the 3rd movie was kinda weird. Why? |
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| Didn't see the movies but the anime was great ImO |
Praland said: WingsOfValor said: I love everything about it, but the 3rd movie was kinda weird. Why? It's kind of weird to admit but that may be my favorite moment in the entire Rebellion movie. |
| How can a deconstruction be overrated? |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
Lancehot said: Imaishi said: i kinda liked the Rebellion movie better Heresy! Why? The ending was way better. |
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| It's overrated, but it's still a good anime. Shit ending, though. It has great Shaft visuals, very nice soundtrack, and an interesting take on the magic girl genre. It's very nice and (sorta) engaging at times, but it never really captivates me. I keep feeling like a detached observer, and that's not what I want from anime. I want a powerful emotional experience. The anime really tries to achieve that, but it never really succeeds. Instead it just becomes a mess of pretentious deepshit and a half-assed deconstruction. 6/10 |
Ratohnhaketon said: It brilliantly explores the contrast between hope and despair and lends insight into the humanity (and dehumanization) of both. Whoa bro, so deep. |
Altairius said: When it comes to anime, I go balls deep on everything.Ratohnhaketon said: It brilliantly explores the contrast between hope and despair and lends insight into the humanity (and dehumanization) of both. Whoa bro, so deep. |
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>mfw this thread again To answer the thread question, I would say that, in my opinion, it's overrated. I don't think it's bad, because I liked the animation and especially the music, which was by far my favorite part of the whole show, but everything else just felt so meh. Like, the story had potential, even if the whole magical girl deconstruction was done at least twice before (Revolutionary Girl Utena and Princess Tutu), but then you think about a few things and it begins to fall apart. Not only that, but I didn't think that the characters were well-developped. Of course, this show was written by Urobuchi, who has literally come out and said that the only way he knows how to write character development is by having bad things happen to them. But I didn't get to care about any of the characters because it felt like they were spending more time shitting on the characters than showing us why should we care about them. If a story is grimdark and angsty to the point where nothing good happens for most of it, I don't get invested enough to care about the conflict or drama, and all of this could have been sidestepped if the show had more episodes to allow for more character development prior to shit hitting the fan. Bottom line, I liked the animation and music but didn't care for the rest of it. My benchmark for classifying a show as overrated is whether it lives up to the hype or not, and for me, it didn't. I can probably understand where most of the initial hype for this came from, because apparently a lot of the shows that were coming out around that time were Moe schoolgirls, and this is a masterpiece compared to those, because at least it has some degree of "depth" to it rather than relying on the characters' Moe appeal to carry the whole show, and it deserves credit for that. But apart from that, great animation and astounding music aren't enough to save a show from mediocrity. |
D-ohnutsMay 1, 2015 1:08 PM
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| Nope, it's a masterpiece. Deserves all the praise it gets. Easily one of the best mahou shoujo anime out there. |
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64SuperNintendo said: then you think about a few things and it begins to fall apart. No,it doesn't.That just you not understanding the story. |
| yup, it's definitely overrated. |
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| It's kind of a boring question - people will like what they like, and good luck to them (same goes for disliking) - but the short answer is No. The show's a masterpiece. |
| "Burn this sight into your minds. This is what it means to be a magical girl." |
Szadek23 said: 64SuperNintendo said: then you think about a few things and it begins to fall apart. No,it doesn't.That just you not understanding the story. |
D-ohnutsMay 1, 2015 5:15 AM
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| They're aware MGs become witches in the Joan of Arc spin-off manga, so it's clearly not something that *never* happens. But MGs are oftentimes quite isolated, and the discovery has probably been made multiple times - and not made multiple times too. |
| "Burn this sight into your minds. This is what it means to be a magical girl." |
| @64SuperNintendo My theory is that Kyubey is purposefully looking for dumbest girls who will ask no uncomfortable question or worse, can think and have a chance of outthinking him. Just look at Madoka. Her lack of curiosity is unbelievable. If I were her, I would like to know what is going on. If you were Madoka, wouldn’t you like to ask Homura what does she mean by that you should not become a magical girl, ? Madoka eventually does something, but not because she is actively looking for information and analyzing the situation, so as to prepare something that may end all of this. She only does something after surviving thanks to having her butt saved by her friends, having all the necessary information thrown right into her face and Homura successfully delaying her from making a dumb decision, I mean, becoming a magical girl. This series message seems to be that you may overcome a dire situation, without working hard, without trying to think, without trying to gather allies and without trying to make a team that may help you. All you need is dumb luck. |
Lain666May 1, 2015 3:15 PM
| "The moment one sits down to think, one becomes all nose, or all forehead, or something horrid. Look at the successful men in any of the learned professions. How perfectly hideous they are! Except, of course, in the Church. But then in the Church they don't think. A bishop keeps on saying at the age of eighty what he was told to say when he was a boy of eighteen, and as a natural consequence he always looks absolutely delightful." |
| There's mixed opinions toward this series, that's for sure. But to me the answer no, I think Madoka Magica is deserving of the praise it received. I personally loved the series, but it's also interesting to hear others' perspective, good or bad. In fact, I think the widely varied viewpoints of the audience is a good thing. The characters in this show aren't an open book, there are many sides driving their decisions in the story, their motivations may not be clear at first, but look from their perspective and I'm sure things will seem different. Ultimately, the show's greatest strength is in it's characters and their ability to draw empathy from the audience and of course this makes enjoyment of the show highly subjective. |
silverwalls said: I thought you were cool.yup, it's definitely overrated. How could you do this. ;__; |
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| I object that PMMM is a mahou shoujo genre. Watch Madoka Magica, and you learn how the world really is, but you DON'T learn how to make things better. Watch Precure or Nanoha, and you learn how to make a bright future for yourself and for others. in case you don't get the message.... madoka magica SUCKS! If you want to see the REAL DEAL and awesome magical girl show, watch Precure or Nanoha. |
| With an overall rating of 8,59 as of today I would say it is slightly underrated especially in comparison to some other shows which have a higher rating. 2011 was a very good year for anime: Steins Gate, Chihayafuru, Fate Zero, Usagi Drop were all great but Madoka Magica stands one level higher in my opinion and all the praise it gets is deserved. Whether it is a deconstruction or not doesn't really matter. |
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