| This may be more practical, but when I ask someone if they like anime, they sometimes say spongebob or how to train your dragon. I understand Anime can mean Animation, so it can mean anything, and not just Japanese anime. But for how popular Japanese anime has gotten, I would assume the person I am asking knows what I'm asking them. |
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Jerkhov said: Just stay on the God damn topicI hate this argument so much |
| South park it's the best anime |
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Praland said: And the most racist :D SouthParkFTWSouth park it's the best anime |
NHRoccodog said: I understand Anime can mean Animation, so it can mean anything, and not just Japanese anime Anime stands for JAPANESE ANIMATION. It can only mean JAPANESE ANIMATION. Or do you think OVA stands for Original Visual Anime? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anime http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anime http://www.thefreedictionary.com/anime http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/anime http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/anime http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/anime Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
sarroushMar 24, 2015 8:47 PM
| Anime is Japanese Animation end of story. Also learn from your own acronyms. |
Forgetfulness said: xbobx said: The Japanese (you know, the people who actually coined the term) would like to disagree with you on that.Anime stands for JAPANESE ANIMATION. It can only mean JAPANESE ANIMATION. Or do you think OVA stands for Original Visual Anime? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anime http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anime http://www.thefreedictionary.com/anime http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/anime http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/anime http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/anime Oh, is that so? Do you have a Japanese-born and Japanese-speaking specimen at your disposal to confirm that? Also, I'm curious, while you're at it, ask him if he would call Spongebob "anime" or "animeshon"? Until you can do that, I suggest you stay with the definition 6 different online dictionaries + common sense tells you. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
sarroushMar 24, 2015 8:51 PM
| I actually heard that it is becoming popular in Japan to call Japanese animation, anime and non Japanese animation, western animation. |
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| Cory in the House is best anime |
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xbobx said: Someone should tell the Japanese that http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1364877NHRoccodog said: I understand Anime can mean Animation, so it can mean anything, and not just Japanese anime Anime stands for JAPANESE ANIMATION. It can only mean JAPANESE ANIMATION. Or do you think OVA stands for Original Visual Anime? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anime http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anime http://www.thefreedictionary.com/anime http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/anime http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/anime http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/anime Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
sarroushMar 24, 2015 8:51 PM
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Forgetfulness said: (meaningless rant with no citation) I take you like examples, I'll give you an easy one: Carnaval (not Carnival) is a popular Brazilian holiday/festival. If you google it or search for the term on dictionaries you'll find that it's referred as "Brazilian festival" or something along this lines. That's how the WORLD knows it, and how it's defined. The word's meaning is deeply related to brazil, but I can use it for other festivities as well - despise what the dictionary says. I can go to Venice and say "Como é lindo o Carnaval de Veneza" (Venice's carnaval is really beautiful) and that's grammatically correct. Why? Because while the world knows Carnaval is a festival of brazil, I can say to my brazilian friend I enjoyed Venice's carnival and not only he will understand what I mean but it also still means the same shit. I'm not saying their carnival is the same as mine, neither that Carnaval isn't a Brazilian party. Now change Carnaval = anime, brazil = Japan, Venice = western, carnival = animation. You see? Do I need to draw? Unless you're Japanese or speaking Japanese, you're supposed to call ONLY Japanese animation, anime. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
sarroushMar 24, 2015 8:52 PM
xbobx said: Carnaval is not only used in Brazil to mean Carnival, Quebec's winter carnival is called Carnaval de Quebec and Mexico's Carnival is called Carnaval. Carnaval has never only been used to refer to Brazilian Carnival.Forgetfulness said: (meaningless rant with no citation) I take you like examples, I'll give you an easy one: Carnaval (not Carnival) is a popular Brazilian holiday/festival. If you google it or search for the term on dictionaries you'll find that it's referred as "Brazilian festival" or something along this lines. That's how the WORLD knows it, and how it's defined. The word's meaning is deeply related to brazil, but I can use it for other festivities as well - despise what the dictionary says. I can go to Venice and say "Como é lindo o Carnaval de Veneza" (Venice's carnaval is really beautiful) and that's grammatically correct. Why? Because while the world knows Carnaval is a festival of brazil, I can say to my brazilian friend I enjoyed Venice's carnival and not only he will understand what I mean but it also still means the same shit. I'm not saying their carnival is the same as mine, neither that Carnaval isn't a Brazilian party. Now change Carnaval = anime, brazil = Japan, Venice = western, carnival = animation. You see? Do I need to draw? Unless you're Japanese or speaking Japanese, you're supposed to call ONLY Japanese animation, anime. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
sarroushMar 24, 2015 8:57 PM
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DrGeroCreation said: Carnaval is not only used in Brazil to mean Carnival, Quebec's winter carnival is called Carnaval de Quebec and Mexico's Carnival is called Carnaval. Carnaval has never only been used to refer to Brazilian Carnival. Oh really? Ok. The more you know. Does it change anything on the logic of my example? You're changing "X1" for "Xa". Use Mexican sombreros if you wish. |
| Thread cleaned Cleaned. Let's remember that name calling, insulting, baiting and abusing are against the forum guidelines. ------------ I remember encountering an argument a few years back about how Avatar could have been considered an anime. The argument continued on until one of the participants said that in Japan, every cartoon is considered "anime". So if a Japanese person were to be watching Sponge Bob or Avatar or Teen Titans or whatever else there is, they would refer to it as Anime, because all that means in Japan is animation/cartoons. I didn't do much research on this to know if it's true or not, so I can't honestly say much else on this matter. |
| ^true, and they're also called cartoons in Japan. Japan is a sellout, whenever a big cartoon from overseas comes they immediately name it that and forget that anime = japan animation, just to sell the series, disgusting :( |
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sarroush said: Actually, I don't think Avatar was anime. It was an amazing show (the best show on nicktoons besides sponge bob) but was it made in Japan?Thread cleaned Cleaned. Let's remember that name calling, insulting, baiting and abusing are against the forum guidelines. ------------ I remember encountering an argument a few years back about how Avatar could have been considered an anime. The argument continued on until one of the participants said that in Japan, every cartoon is considered "anime". So if a Japanese person were to be watching Sponge Bob or Avatar or Teen Titans or whatever else there is, they would refer to it as Anime, because all that means in Japan is animation/cartoons. I didn't do much research on this to know if it's true or not, so I can't honestly say much else on this matter. |
| It is true that in Japanese, anime is used to refer to all kinds of animated works, but non-Japanese works are often designated as overseas anime (海外アニメ) specifically (obviously Japanese works usually have no such moniker attached). This can still range, however, from classic Disney to Avatar to Jackie Chan Adventures to (sadly) fanime. |
Forgetfulness said: xbobx said: You can find that information on the internet easily (e.g. check Wikipedia. Or don't if you think it's not valid). People have also posted actual Japanese articles and stuff on MAL that clearly refer to what we consider cartoons as anime. It's too much work for me to go find them again, so you can either take my word for it or just disregard my point because I'm too lazyOh, is that so? Do you have a Japanese-born and Japanese-speaking specimen at your disposal to confirm that? Also, I'm curious, while you're at it, ask him if he would call Spongebob "anime" or "animeshon"? Until you can do that, I suggest you stay with the definition 6 different online dictionaries + common sense tells you. lmao! 6 different online English dictionaries. There's different meanings between Japan and the West. Also, "common sense"? Really? Does anime sound more like the word "animation" or "Japanese animation" to you? I'll give you a hint: "anime" doesn't have anything close to "Japan" in it. edit: actually, I didn't provide an actual argument. So you know what? Here you go http://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=%E3%82%A2%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A1&ref=sa What an actual Japanese dictionary will tell you if you look up "anime" (アニメ). Note that Japanese is not stated like anywhere in there I'd like to point out that MAL is an English website, and there are many more members here from America or U.K. than Japan. I would stick with anime = Japanese animation. I don't speak Japanese. |
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| While the Japanese refer to every cartoon as anime and every comic as manga, there's a reason we use those terms in the West to begin with. I don't use random words from other languages on an English website for no reason whatsoever. In English-speaking countries the term anime means that it's an animation made in Japan. Using it to refer to any kind of animation is confusing for everyone. If I say "Spongebob is an animación", is it wrong? No, it's just two languages mixed up. Same goes for anime. |
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| not this shit again. |
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Remv_quevav said: Cory in the House is best anime Nah man, Hannah Montama is da best anime! 10/10 |
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| This is so deep |
| *Grabs popcorn in anticipation of upcoming verbal war. |
| Just refer to *Japanese* anime as "Chinese cartoons" to avoid misunderstandings |
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NHRoccodog said: They are trolling you.This may be more practical, but when I ask someone if they like anime, they sometimes say spongebob or how to train your dragon. I understand Anime can mean Animation, so it can mean anything, and not just Japanese anime. But for how popular Japanese anime has gotten, I would assume the person I am asking knows what I'm asking them. As for "the Japanese call all cartoons anime, why don't we?", I ask: why don't we refer to chivalrous gentlemen as feminists? After all, the Japanese do... |
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NHRoccodog said: This may be more practical, but when I ask someone if they like anime, they sometimes say spongebob or how to train your dragon. I understand Anime can mean Animation, so it can mean anything, and not just Japanese anime. But for how popular Japanese anime has gotten, I would assume the person I am asking knows what I'm asking them. Your friends are trolls mate. Best abandon them and watch more anime like the rest of us. |
| In English, anime denotes animation from Japan. I've never cared for the distinction, but MAL says otherwise - I've seen enough threads about non-japanese animation closed to realize the puritanism is strong. |
| Anyone who doesn't hate anime hasn't watched enough anime. - Anonymous |
Forgetfulness said: LunarProxy said: Like I already said, I use the anime = Japanese cartoons too, but just want to point out that it also has the meaning of anime = animation for the Japanese people.I'd like to point out that MAL is an English website, and there are many more members here from America or U.K. than Japan. I would stick with anime = Japanese animation. I don't speak Japanese. Actually, no, you never said you do until just now. Anyhow, that was quite the argument over something so pointless, just my two cents earlier. Syndiciate said: NHRoccodog said: This may be more practical, but when I ask someone if they like anime, they sometimes say spongebob or how to train your dragon. I understand Anime can mean Animation, so it can mean anything, and not just Japanese anime. But for how popular Japanese anime has gotten, I would assume the person I am asking knows what I'm asking them. Your friends are trolls mate. Best abandon them and watch more anime like the rest of us. Either trolls, or failures of semi-human otaku beings. Not sure if that's considered a good or a bad thing in society yet, I haven't gone outside to check in some time. |
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| The day spongebob is considered anime is the day I stop liking my moe. |
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: Spongebob is moe.The day spongebob is considered anime is the day I stop liking my moe.  |
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IntroverTurtle said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: Spongebob is moe.The day spongebob is considered anime is the day I stop liking my moe. He has nothing on Mashiro Mitsumine~ |
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| i don't think that there's only one true definition to anime imo it only makes sense to establish such a borderline for db purposes |
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| No it doesn't. It only does in Japan, and the general meaning of the word is Japanese animation. |
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Milk_is_Special said: In French cartoon is dessin anime. So it's not only the Japanese that abbreviate animation as anime.No it doesn't. It only does in Japan, and the general meaning of the word is Japanese animation. |
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Jerkhov said: I hate this argument so much |
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