The Breaker: New Waves Chapter 192 Discussion

NudeBear said:
seriously fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck this fucking author. First 6 or 7 pages of flashbacks and two blank pages? Fuck i hate this guy. Love his series, but I hate him. The last 4 chapters could have all been done in 1. This guy like to stall so fucking much just so he can get his cliffhangers. He's fucking worse than Tite Kubo when it comes to wasting panels. Jesus.

Yuhrita said:
It makes me realize his art was better back then... It's quite bland now honestly

Yuhrita said:
It makes me realize his art was better back then... It's quite bland now honestly

RiukixD said:
Ah come on, I hope he regains his faith in 9AD fast. Of course, 9AD has to distance himself from the organization and all the other bad guys first, but making an enemy of him isn't needed at all. There should be a small fight to get their points across, but no deathmatch or anything permanent.

He was manipulated by Elder Kwon on his death bed and I think Shioon should stand over that even if he loved Kwon. Kwon died by his own choice (he attacked him even though he knew he was too wounded AND he pulled back in the last moment) so the hate on 9AD is misplaced in my opinion.
He needs to be able to build his own opinions and take the choices he thinks are right. And deep down he knows that the real 9AD is a good and caring person (as shown in the flashbacks). We've seen this conviction for the whole series now and just stepping on that would really suck.

If Shioon's hate on 9AD is going to be permanent, 9AD might really break. He only had 2 people in the world who cared for him. One of them was killed in his arms (and hopefully will be revived by the end of the series) and now Shioon might break their relationship as well.

Guess I need to see the next chapter(s) first, there might be a bit of dialogue before the brainless bashing starts.


And while I write all of this, until now I never really cared for 9AD and only wished to see more of Shioon. But I just don't want their bond to be ripped apart by other people's manipulative plays.

Darklight0303 said:


What are you smoking? His art has improved tremendously since the first season

fullmetal_adam said:
Here we see the manga equivalent of a clip show...

survivor_hero said:


Actually bro, the authors are not having the capacity to make more pages. Kubo does because he wants (and not has ability artistic for something better). Kubo has a lot of assistants, and most of its pages are blank frames. If I'm not mistaken, since November they lost three assistants and are with one. Not for nothing that they do so many cliffhanger. It is that they have no ability to make enough pages. This will likely be a problem by the end of this part (New Waves). And they earn by chapter released, then they can not stop. Not because they want the chapters are well this format.

survivor_hero said:


Exactly.

Yuhrita said:
It makes me realize his art was better back then... It's quite bland now honestly

Extreme3708 said:
Goomoonryong is god

Darklight0303 said:


You're welcome to go elsewhere

MasterDetective said:

it sorta is though

Tyrant10 said:

Shioon then:

Shioon now:

Do said:
I love 9AD, but now that he's no longer under the influence of medicine he's disappointed me on so many levels I can't even

Do said:
9AD has a DISGUSTING mullet

G_Spark233 said:
Wow didn't realise how much the art has changed. Shiwoon definitely looks a lot better now than he did back then.

Tyrant10 said:

I understand why you say that. I almost feel the same way but I think it's still early to take his changed nature as the truth.
Remember that when Kwon took the fatal death blow up front (intentionally too, in order to break the student-teacher bond I presume), 9AD was just as shocked as others.
Also, looking at what he said to Shioon after witnessing him do the Phoenix Cry, i.e. ,
although highly unlikely, I believe the author is hinting that 9AD has a plan. He may be playing an act in front of Kaiser for a motive unknown to us; or maybe he actually lost his mind and blames the Murim alliance for Shiho's death. Whatever it is, we can only speculate at this point.


I actually prefer the mullet to that hairband he had on at all times, but ehh, I think he should just cut it with the katana he had.


I was surprised too when I reread a few early chapters of this series. Which reminds me, Shioon's is probably one of the best character developments I've ever seen.

He's still being nothing but a hypocrite. Or did he forget the meltdown he had when Shiho 'died'

Do said:
Well........ I see I'm one of the few that didn't like this chapter, since everyone voted 5/5 XD
I normally don't care so much that this series is slow, because the story and art are so amazing, but the flashbacks really pissed me off. They were a really good addition, but they went on for too long. 2 or 3 pages at MOST would've been amazing, but this was crazy.
I'm glad Shioon finally turned on 9AD... I love 9AD, but now that he's no longer under the influence of medicine he's disappointed me on so many levels I can't even

And to join the art discussion: I agree the art has tremendously improved (although it was already FRIGGIN' AMAZING in part 1) but I do think it's sad how all the hairstyles are so similar now??? Shioon used to have a "different" type of hair and so did 9AD but now they have the same hair, only 9AD has a DISGUSTING mullet

survivor_hero said:




^ This.

Tyrant10 said:

You can't really expect him to be aggressively enraged at everyone for the rest of his life due to her 'death'.

Tyrant10 said:
He look like a hypocrite, yes but all I'm saying is him killing Kwon wasn't intentional. Not to mention his lesser subordinates would've been killed by the hands of Kwon if he didn't engage him. When fighting the elder in one on one combat, who was just as (if not, more, although injured) skilled as 9AD, holding back on his attack would've caused him major damage, or maybe death instead of Kwon, which no one, let alone 9 arts would like to afford.

Darklight0303 said:


His lesser subordinates that have been going around injuring innocent civilians under his banner. He should care about such trash, why exactly?

Who said anything about going easy? He could have not fought at all or just dodged.

Tyrant10 said:

I was surprised too when I reread a few early chapters of this series. Which reminds me, Shioon's is probably one of the best character developments I've ever seen.

Tyrant10 said:

I understand why you say that. I almost feel the same way but I think it's still early to take his changed nature as the truth.
Remember that when Kwon took the fatal death blow up front (intentionally too, in order to break the student-teacher bond I presume), 9AD was just as shocked as others. Also, looking at what he said to Shioon after witnessing him do the Phoenix Cry, i.e.
although highly unlikely, I believe the author is hinting that 9AD has a plan. He may be playing an act in front of Kaiser for a motive unknown to us; or maybe he actually lost his mind and blames the Murim alliance for Shiho's death. Whatever it is, we can only speculate at this point.


I actually prefer the mullet to that hairband he had on at all times, but ehh, I think he should just cut it with the katana he had.


I was surprised too when I reread a few early chapters of this series. Which reminds me, Shioon's is probably one of the best character developments I've ever seen.

Darklight0303 said:


You're welcome to go elsewhere

Stark700 said:
Oh boy, here we go. This is going to be a royally painful beat up after what happened.

Fazer said:


(I'm shitty at this quoting stuff so I hope the way I'm reacting right now is understandable XD)

You are completely right, but 9AD has so much experience, he should have known so much better. He would have known how to fend off the Elder without killing him.

And actually, about that.. I see what you mean, about 9AD maybe having a plan (amazing you picked that out, that really does make sense!) but he doesn't even frigging LOOK at Shioon, and that makes me so angry as well.. you'd think he would have enough respect and care for Shioon to at least look him in the eye, but to me, he just wants him to calm down and doesn't care for anything that happened. But that's just me!

& lastly, of course it's taste xD I hate mullets and I quite liked the ponytail but both are not for everyone :D


FINALLY, I'M QUOTING survivor_hero (sorry for the bad quoting guys):

What I intended about the flashbacks was nòt that I mind the fact that they "filled up" space with them that could've been actual storyline, because, as I said earlier, I don't mind that the story's so slow. What I díd mean was that for me, they went on too long, and they broke my hopes of a long chapter (this sounds really contradictory, but I'm saying I don't mind short chapters AS LONG AS they don't promise me a lot with a lot of pages and then reveal half of the chapter is flashback). I hope that explained it, since I don't want to sound annoying about the content. ^^



and i hope shioon kicks 9ads ass.

ARGHfuzzkaboom said:


No, I won't "go elsewhere" because this is the only discussion thread I know. I would go to Batoto but this is banned there. I was pissed off when I read this chapter and I got even more pissed off when I find everyone kissing its ass I just had to vent.

Darklight0303 said:


Then maybe the problem is with you

UndeadSoul said:
Simply amazing! It about damn time this happened. Glad he will stop running up behind someone who cant even get there own emotions together.

survivor_hero said:


No, bro, I understand your complains. I just know that is hard for they make a long chapter (for me, they should are making the pages of fight Shioon vs Chun-woo with antecedence, for can have a chance of chapters with great moves and choreography).

One question: It's possible a Shinmujengpe in part 3?

Darklight0303 said:


Then maybe the problem is with you

survivor_hero said:
It's awesome how I make numerous theories, but I not have one that can state like probable. It's really unpredictable.

ARGHfuzzkaboom said:


Wow, way to go. I notice problems with a comic you love so I must be crazy. Just no.

I'll bet quite a few has issues with the story but they don't care enough to voice them when the majority commenting are fans being willingly blind, like you. I was a fan of The Breaker and this sequel until it became apparent the author had introduced too many plot lines and characters than he knew what to do with because of its tight weekly schedule, he had to resort to flashbacks every single chapter just to further the story. Not to mention to develop Shi-woon's character(by way of making him crazy strong? wtf), he sacrificed every single old and new character including Goo-moon-ryong who transforms into some emo asshole.



Shi-woon becomes an anti-hero in Part 3 to fight Kaiser and his pawns anti-hero style before succumbing to his moral compass and reverts to his nice self again and saves everyone in the end.

survivor_hero said:
Humm, great, but not believe in this. Although be plausible.

And the rest of your comment is based in your hate for the serie. If you really want to discuss their problems with the series, beauty, I will not search your mangalist or anything of the genre, I'll just answer all his assertions that are completely baseless. Goomoonryong is what he always was. He did not become an emo. And the BOT madness never do any character lost your characterization in your personality or motivations, so I have no idea what you're talking about. If you want to criticize, better, make people to take it seriously, come and justify their point of view, because if not it will continue to be ignored, why not show anything new and you even said that just want to distill their hatred against The Breaker, which makes caring with a comment like this completely unnecessary.

Do said:
He would have known how to fend off the Elder without killing him.

survivor_hero said:
Naruto feelings..."not care who you kill, if families destroys, until burns countries , I'll save you!"

ARGHfuzzkaboom said:

Wow, way to go. I notice problems with a comic you love so I must be crazy. Just no.

ARGHfuzzkaboom said:
you guys should feel bad for being so eager to get swept up in it

ARGHfuzzkaboom said:
..he had to resort to flashbacks every single chapter just to further the story.

judge35 said:
He should've been the sensei who deeply cares for his student we liked from part 1 after he remembered Shioon. Instead he continued to be such a stubborn and close-minded bastard through and through. He only came to his senses when the damage was done.

judge35 said:


I'm getting more skeptical about kaiser's identity. I think he is Lady Sosul's father(Previous Head of Sunwoo Clan), doing things for the sake of his clan. I can't think of any explanation why Sosul would follow Kaiser if he's someone she cares for or she could probably been drugged like 9AD. I'm wondering who the real bad guys are.

judge35 said:
Honestly, there's more interesting directions the story can take other than that teacher/student relationship plot from part 1.

wtfitsmegaman said:
Is the series on break this weak?

Darklight0303 said:


Not as far as I know. It doesn't come out this early anyways. The earliest would be tomorrow night.

Tyrant10 said:


Yet, other people like a comic you hate so much so they must feel bad? I smell hypocrisy.

Tyrant10 said:

I stopped here. It's funny you say that. Besides this chapter, I don't recall seeing redundant flashback panels in this manga from last 30 chapters(which is around 30 weeks) at least.

judge35 said:
So far, 9AD is ruining the story for me. He should've been the sensei who deeply cares for his student we liked from part 1 after he remembered Shioon. Instead he continued to be such a stubborn and close-minded bastard through and through. He only came to his senses when the damage was done.

judge35 said:
Also, I think DokHengRang would be a better idol(teacher/best bud) for Shioon. DokHengRang is more righteous than that ass 9AD.

judge35 said:
Anyways my guess is the final arc will probably be the Sunwoo vs Chundomoon i.e. Shioon vs SoChunHyuk or Sunwoo and Chundomoon going against Kaiser. Honestly, there's more interesting directions the story can take other than that teacher/student relationship plot from part 1.

ARGHfuzzkaboom said:

It's an expression, dimwit. You're not feeling bad, are you?

ARGHfuzzkaboom said:

Well, maybe you should go back and re-read it then... or just paid attention in the first place.

ARGHfuzzkaboom said:

..he had to resort to flashbacks every single chapter just to further the story.