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| loved it, loved it, LOVED IT. It did exactly what it was supposed to do. It set everything up for what's gonna happen in the second movie. The pacing was nice for the most part, other than the fact that it seemed to take a bit to get things off the ground. Curious about some of the other Selecao charas who are unidentified..... also, did anyone else get a huge kick outa Juiz's attitude toward the movie guy (#6 I think)?? It's obvious that Juiz hates that guy! XD |
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| i found it incredibly slow paced x.x it pissed me off not to mention the almost 3 gig dl x,x DAMN YOU DB! |
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gotoKu- said: Somewhere in the end of the TV series, Takizawa sent a bottle of champagne to No.1 and whoever was with him, and that bottle was delivered by the one in the picture named Juiz. I'm pretty sure Takizawa also said something about Juiz delivering it as well, don't remember why anymore though : pWhy is there a picture of Juiz on the character list? Since when was her identity revealed? (Maybe I should watch the series again?) |
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gotoKu- said: At the end like Oosran said when she brought the champagne bottle.....Mr.Outside...has rumors he was the cab driver at the end.Why is there a picture of Juiz on the character list? Since when was her identity revealed? |
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Tomodachi said: i found it incredibly slow paced x.x it pissed me off not to mention the almost 3 gig dl x,x DAMN YOU DB! THIS! Thanks to that I can't work out if I was dissapointed because it was a relatively poor movie or because it kep bloody lagging Bleh, I don't have the enthusiasm to watch Paradise Lost now. If anything I want the whole thing to come out on dvd and watch the entire thing from start to finish but I know if I wait I'll hit spoilers |
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| Cliffhanger. Can't wait for the new movie. :3 And the ED is pretty nice. |
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| I'm guessing that the second movie will finish up everything they didn't do in this movie. |
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| mixed feelings . . . I liked the characters but it wasn't nearly as epic as the series :/ Just filler before the final movie . . . Can't wait to see how it's going to resolve the mystery!! The ED was cool though and question . . . did number 2 make an appearance? and was the supporter revealed? or did I miss something?? |
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| The subtle reference to Catcher in the Rye in the merry-go-around scene did it for me. Very intelligent. I haven't seen the anime series since I finished it last year so the 6-month time passage between this movie and the last TV episode was something I could really relate to. It felt very nostalgic to see all the characters again. In the end, I'm glad that The King of Eden retained the charm and cleverness of the TV series. I can only expect good things from Paradise Lost. |
| I'm really confused about the people who say this movie didn't do anything for the plot development. This movie completely presented what happened to Akira at the end of the tv show, created a conflict with his past being totally erased, showed what happened to Eden and the creators becoming what they were complaining about as NEETs, Introduced two more Selecao, and amped up the stakes at the end with Mononobe attacking the new, roving Juiz. There was nothing stagnant about this movie at all. What I did notice, though was a fluid pace that didn't feel nearly as hectic as the show did. I remember lots of people (including myself) complaining about how fast things went, and how quickly the show would resolve the conflict. So, now that that issue is resolved by changing the medium to film, people are calling it 'boring.' I call it balanced storytelling. By no means am I calling it perfect though, because it does suffer a little from having to set up a few things, while lacking development from Saki and Akira; but to see it get 5s or lower is crazy to me. 8/10 for me. |
noteDhero said: I'm really confused about the people who say this movie didn't do anything for the plot development. This movie completely presented what happened to Akira at the end of the tv show, created a conflict with his past being totally erased, showed what happened to Eden and the creators becoming what they were complaining about as NEETs, Introduced two more Selecao, and amped up the stakes at the end with Mononobe attacking the new, roving Juiz. There was nothing stagnant about this movie at all. What I did notice, though was a fluid pace that didn't feel nearly as hectic as the show did. I remember lots of people (including myself) complaining about how fast things went, and how quickly the show would resolve the conflict. So, now that that issue is resolved by changing the medium to film, people are calling it 'boring.' I call it balanced storytelling. By no means am I calling it perfect though, because it does suffer a little from having to set up a few things, while lacking development from Saki and Akira; but to see it get 5s or lower is crazy to me. 8/10 for me. That's because people are retards now a days lol. The fast pacing in the series was much welcomed in my opinion. It's one of the few series where fast pacing felt right. The movie lacked it big time which left a less dramatic and more "when is this gonna pick up" taste in my mouth and I think that's why people are pissed off. They're confusing plot development with slowness. I personalty liked it and expect the pace to pick up in the second movie now that members are starting to target each other more openly. |
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| I completely agree with noteDhero and DeathfireD. This movie was more like 'planting seeds' for the next sequel, and it did it pretty much damn well. What I really didn't like was being the title 'eden of the east', it didn't really had noticeable development or engagement on that program itself. Now, it is pretty obvious that Eden of the east site is doing pretty much everything, and I liked it. 8/10 for me, too. Pace was slow and content was lacking, but still managed to be enjoyable for me. |
| Even if it wasn't all that exciting of a movie, it did what it had to do: advance the plot. |
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| I already talked about why I thought it was balanced, but I'll quote myself anyways. noteDhero said: I'm really confused about the people who say this movie didn't do anything for the plot development. This movie completely presented what happened to Akira at the end of the tv show, created a conflict with his past being totally erased, showed what happened to Eden and the creators becoming what they were complaining about as NEETs, Introduced two more Selecao, and amped up the stakes at the end with Mononobe attacking the new, roving Juiz. There was nothing stagnant about this movie at all. What I did notice, though was a fluid pace that didn't feel nearly as hectic as the show did. I remember lots of people (including myself) complaining about how fast things went, and how quickly the show would resolve the conflict. So, now that that issue is resolved by changing the medium to film, people are calling it 'boring.' I call it balanced storytelling. Emboldened for emphasis. This movie did a hell of a lot, and was still funny, somewhat touching, and energetic. I felt constant forward motion, and momentum, and that's hard to keep up for a feature-length flim. I think a lot of people were expecting the movie to hit the ground running like the show did, but besides the fact that they are two different animals, the movie had a lot to address, and it didn't feel like to movie was bogged down in dealing with it from my perspective. |
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| Don't know what more to say when you give one word replies. I think they did completely present what happened. Maybe there's another twist, I don't know, but as it stands, I don't have any questions about what happened to him between the show and the movie. But fine, I'll concede that it wasn't "complete." Anything else? |
| So presented to you means that it has to be shown? Akira lost his memory, and as they wandered off the building, Juiz made moves to have Akira become the prime minister's son--so he could become 'king'-- while his image became iconoclastic. Akira and Saki were taken to the police station where he was given the seeds for his new identity and whisked away, while she was questioned about her involvement in the missile attack. Akira was given a job in NY, and he's slowly been trying to remember his past, but to no avail, mistaking Juiz for his real mother. He continues some sort of life in NY until he meets Saki, when the pieces begin to come back together. Of course it didn't present everything that happened after the TV series. There are still two more movies, but even then, it still won't be everything. There were two main pieces of exposition in the movie that described what happened, one from Akira, and one from Kazuomi while everyone waited for a call from Saki. Those moments filled in much of what was going on in between the movie and the show. On top of that there was dialogue/monologuing by Kuroha and Mononobe that further gave a frame for what had been/is going on in the story. I don't think anything is just implied when we see corroboration in the result of the changes that have happened in everyone's lives, but I suppose that's just me. I think I've done a pretty good job explaining in my own words why I gave it an 8, as opposed to your quoting other people and giving it a 6. But this isn't about scores in the first place. This is about your disagreeing that the story was balanced, while not really giving your own examples and sharing your own viewpoint. |
| ugh definitely didnt expect tht kind of ending :S |
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| GREAT!!! Hollywood need to make this into LIVE ACTION,,,It will better than Dragon Ball or BLEACH... damn,,,can't wait for the second movie.... |
IZUMI64 said: Actually.. That's a great idea! : OHollywood need to make this into LIVE ACTION,,,It will better than Dragon Ball or BLEACH... God I'd like to see that, would be awesome~ : D |
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Oosran said: IZUMI64 said: Actually.. That's a great idea! : OHollywood need to make this into LIVE ACTION,,,It will better than Dragon Ball or BLEACH... God I'd like to see that, would be awesome~ : D We all know it would suck. |
Schreibtisch said: Of course it would, seeing as Hollywood can't do anything right nowadays, but it's a good story at least, so no need to be pessimistic about it.Oosran said: We all know it would suck.IZUMI64 said: Actually.. That's a great idea! : OHollywood need to make this into LIVE ACTION,,,It will better than Dragon Ball or BLEACH... God I'd like to see that, would be awesome~ : D Aim for Bollywood instead? |
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| With Shahrukh Khan as any character? I'm in! |
| Sure is Holden Caulfield in here. Kind of a meh movie, but still left me wanting more. |
| Not as paced as the TV series, was hoping for that same pace. Skip to 6 months after the series and make the movie a slow day. Oh well. 7/10 |
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| Here's some interesting things i spotted in the movie: -Yuki (which i believe is the name of the redhead) actually uses photoshop for work!!!!! If you pause the scene with her in front of a computer, it is definitely the layout of photoshop as i recognize the toolbars. -Also, Eden of hte East seems to really like Apple computers as i think all of the computers in that office were apple. You can magnify the backs of the computer and see an apple symbol. And would any one like to tell me how u guy stake screenshots of these shows. I download them in .mkv, and i was wondering what programs all you use to get the screenshots from a .mkv. Reply to my wall if you can. |
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| What was with her last request moving the third truck to the front? Didn't get the point in that. Sorry if I'm a bit slow |
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| I think they used apple as another reference to Eden. You know, the appletree and stuff. |
| Really good movie. Saki and Akira meeting again was a fantastic reunion. |
| Well the serious seemed to be a bit more exciting compared to the movie... I just don't understand why he would wipe his mind a second time either, but oh well... Hopefully the second movie will be more exciting, I think it might be the conclusion? |
| I felt the movie could have been structured better, as pacing was an issue and the climax really didn't leave me on edge like it probably should have done, but the movie was okay. Loved the reference to The Man Who Stole the Sun. |
| I didn't get what was up with the trucks... XD |
Ahohime said: I didn't get what was up with the trucks... XD i think were carrying juiz support for each person |
| Saki was so kawaii |
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Oosran said: Jigero said: And going by that, haha tough luck being No. 6, having his own Juiz bail out on him xDAokaado said: Those were Juiz, they where mobile servers, each holding a Juiz for each Selecao, he tried to blow up everyone's Juiz, but his own, there for the other Selecao can't do shit and effectively cutting the head off the snake. It looks like the only people left with a Juiz is No.1 and No.09.DeathHormone said: agreed, and yea, wtf was all that?I really enjoyed it, yeah it was slow paced but i didn't mind it, just wish the 2nd film was out! The trailer part confused me, perhaps the trailers carry some sort of cargo that has some connection to juiz, although to me, it looked like the trailers were carrying more missiles(but that wouldn't make sense?) The reason Juiz seems different was because there was only 1 Juiz before, but they moved Juiz into different mobile servers for each Selecao, so those separate Juiz must have tailored them selves to each Selecao. Jhahaha that was a great LMFAO Wow I didn´t understood all that thing about the Juiz´s thanks for that |
| It was okay.. everything was boring not until the 40 minute mark onwards after that it was a bit confusing *So you need to erase your memories just to survive death? (Supporter) *What was those trailer truck for? after being destroyed the Selecao became inactive but alive |
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| OK, I can't wait to see the end now.. I hope we will then know who the supporter is or was? (and who's number 12?) I also wonder why number 1 knows the minister all of a sudden, nasty little fella, that number 1.. |
| I pretty much figured out that Juiz was different some how from the series favouring other players and treating others like dirt. From there I was lost.... |
Yukushi said: What was with her last request moving the third truck to the front? Didn't get the point in that. Sorry if I'm a bit slow if u remember, juiz was a huge computer thing in the anime, at the end, they had to get a "wireless" version of juiz and each truck was for each selecio. in my opinion, the truck that was targeted was at akira's "juiz", thus, the girl knowing this, had her juiz become the sacrifice. anyway, that was an interesting movie, it wasnt that great, but there was a lot of stuff happening, though there was hardly any development between saki and akira, or atleast their back to where they started now. like everyone has said before, they basicly put everything in place for the next movie, we know that akira look-a-like is alive but it seems he wants to get revenge without the help of juiz. the guy with the hat, the docter, and the girl are alive but eliminated. the other guy with the glasses seems to want to win through casulties, and our hero still wants to be king but is in a pinch with his PM's son's side. i wonder how the wife will act when they meet, somthing tells me she might secretly involved with this, but we'll find out. |
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