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Feb 5, 2015 2:18 PM

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tsudecimo said:
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It's like School Days

Very few similarities.

yeah
Feb 5, 2015 2:20 PM
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tsudecimo said:
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The list goes on,so I do know a lot about harem shows and School Days blows most of those out of the water.

Good for you. But it doesn't make my point any less true.

Inferno_Cop said:

Do you mean yosuga no sora? If yes then it is a different case as it was 4 different storylines in 12 episode. Some older shows would be better choice for things like romance with sex. Anyway you guys carry on.
As for op he needs to watch Rumbling hearts.

Yeah. It has an omnibus format. My point was that it was another Eroge adaptation with sex in it. And yeah Rumbling Hearts also helps my point even if it's not a harem.

mayukachan said:

It's like School Days

Very few similarities.


It does make your point less true -.- you said that people who like it lack knowledge of other harems,I listed a few of those I watched so.....yeah,it does make your point less true since I,infact have watched other harems
Feb 5, 2015 2:25 PM
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3. As far as the characters and story goes,I have never seen a more realistic high-school anime than this as the characters act like people would in a situation like this. If you were the main character you would do the same thing,if not,you are either lying or you don't swing that way. The girls also are realistic as they show the different ways a girl could react to the events that took place.

That is simply not true and if you think so then I don't want to know what kind of people you grew up with or know.Every girl wanting to fuck one dumbass for no reason is not realistic...just in porn ofc.
Btw do you know about the lore of School Days and how they are related to each other?


I am talking about when you first end up in this situation and love someone to that point,they do act like the girls would. And they didn't bang him for no reason; one was saved from bullies,the other was the first person to not bully her. So there were definatly reasons.

I grew up among pretty normal people to be honest,it's the anime fans that usually don't get the realism because most of them hang out with anime fans only,if you stick to know other people,you'll notice that people aren't half as rational as anime fans claim.

I have had one of my friends,very smart person studying to become an engineer and stuff. this dude compeletly irationally went in bare with his girlfriend when he knew she wasn't on the pill. So it happens more than you'd think,so the people who don't accept the fact that these things happen often (not 100% according to the show) needs to step out of their circle of friends to realize that this show is very much true.
Feb 5, 2015 2:32 PM

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tsudecimo said:

Yeah. It has an omnibus format. My point was that it was another Eroge adaptation with sex in it. And yeah Rumbling Hearts also helps my point even if it's not a harem.


Bad example then, Yosuga came after SC and so it doesn't even matter what no. of eroge with sex got adapted later on.
Though school days wasn't first eroge anime with sex anyway.
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Feb 5, 2015 2:37 PM

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Workman94 said:

It does make your point less true -.- you said that people who like it lack knowledge of other harems,I listed a few of those I watched so.....yeah,it does make your point less true since I,infact have watched other harems

T'ch. I said Harem manga and Eroges. Are the ones you listed in either of the these two?
Feb 5, 2015 2:40 PM
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tsudecimo said:
Workman94 said:

It does make your point less true -.- you said that people who like it lack knowledge of other harems,I listed a few of those I watched so.....yeah,it does make your point less true since I,infact have watched other harems

T'ch. I said Harem manga and Eroges. Are the ones you listed in either of the these two?


just because those are adaptations doesn't make it less true...That's like saying a green and red apple are two different fruits
Feb 5, 2015 2:44 PM

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Workman94 said:
tsudecimo said:

T'ch. I said Harem manga and Eroges. Are the ones you listed in either of the these two?


just because those are adaptations doesn't make it less true...That's like saying a green and red apple are two different fruits

What...

They type of manga that have sex in them don't usually get adapted. How are you not getting that?

Rumbling hearts, White Album 2, and probably a lot of old anime have sex in them, so here. School days is not unique at all.
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Workman94 said:


I am talking about when you first end up in this situation and love someone to that point,they do act like the girls would. And they didn't bang him for no reason; one was saved from bullies,the other was the first person to not bully her. So there were definatly reasons.

I grew up among pretty normal people to be honest,it's the anime fans that usually don't get the realism because most of them hang out with anime fans only,if you stick to know other people,you'll notice that people aren't half as rational as anime fans claim.

I have had one of my friends,very smart person studying to become an engineer and stuff. this dude compeletly irationally went in bare with his girlfriend when he knew she wasn't on the pill. So it happens more than you'd think,so the people who don't accept the fact that these things happen often (not 100% according to the show) needs to step out of their circle of friends to realize that this show is very much true.

Sure you can take an example of a sexual driven primate,but it would still take all the female counterparts to act the same.I once saved a woman from being raped,but she somehow wasn't willing to have sex with me,was she acting unrealistic?


I'm not sure I understand the point. Are you implying that because you saved her she didn't have sex with you because you did something nice?

Anyway,all the girls liked him for good reason (aside from pig-tailed girl) they acted the same basically cause they either were his girlfriend or because they liked him for a long time
Feb 5, 2015 2:46 PM
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tsudecimo said:
Workman94 said:


just because those are adaptations doesn't make it less true...That's like saying a green and red apple are two different fruits

What...

They type of manga that have sex in them don't usually get adapted. How are you not getting that?

Rumbling hearts, White Album 2, and probably a lot of old anime have sex in them, so here. School days is not unique at all.


What makes it unique is the fact that characters for once act selfish and for once things didn't get good in the end which is what happens a lot in life. Rumbling hearts had a good ending and the characters weren't really selfish,it was just a bad string of events that lead to the mess. it was nobody who caused it and there really was no one selfish in it either
Feb 5, 2015 2:49 PM

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Characters act selfish in White Album 2. I also see the MC of rumbling hearts acting cowardly and selfish.

Saying the characters of school days are realistic because they are selfish is quite a stretch.
Feb 5, 2015 2:56 PM
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tsudecimo said:
Characters act selfish in White Album 2. I also see the MC of rumbling hearts acting cowardly and selfish.

Saying the characters of school days are realistic because they are selfish is quite a stretch.


How is the MC in RH acting selfish? Because he didn't wait for his girlfriend in a coma to wake up after 3 years? He was feeling guilty the whole show,the guilt was the entire problem of the show. There was no selfishness. I can't speak for white album 2 though

SD cast is realistic because of it,out of all the harem anime's I've watched,there never was 1 instance where a character did something questionably bad by intention.
Feb 8, 2015 4:22 PM

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I don't dislike the show. I like its premise and see some merit in it. Still, I cringe every time somebody mentions realism as a major quality. For a couple of reasons actually:

1-Being realistic in fictional media is not a quality by itself.
2-Any story that doesn't incorporate fantastic elements can be considered realistic anyway.

On the other hand, I didn't perceive the whole amount of depth every character seemed to have. Yes, they have motivations but these motivations are flat and feel as if they did only exist to cover a specific role in this story.

Is it overhated? I guess. And probably overpraised as well. If you ask me it's not worth that much effort from either side.
Feb 8, 2015 4:25 PM
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Just because it's a deconstruction that doesn't automatically make it good.
Feb 8, 2015 4:28 PM

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welll dunno actually , some people says that's its shit and eww and all of that but they keep waching it , well if you hate it drop it .
anyway i've seen it , it was crazy but good to watch
Feb 8, 2015 11:54 PM

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Gholy said:
Just because it's a deconstruction

It's not in the first place.
Feb 11, 2015 7:29 AM
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I am not saying it is the greatest there is,but it is about a 7,5/10 for me. It is not something you would watch twice but that is because this is one of those animes, Kind of how I would never watch through death note again.

I feel the realism did add to it's quality as it shows characters be nice in the beginning to selfish in the end which shows how they behave under certain circumstances and how they behave when shit hits the fan.
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On the other hand, I didn't perceive the whole amount of depth every character seemed to have. Yes, they have motivations but these motivations are flat and feel as if they did only exist to cover a specific role in this story.


The motivations of these characters doesn't really fall flat when there are explainations behind them, I will agree there are a couple of plotholes in here,but what anime doesn't have them. And their motivation exist only to cover a specific role in the story because that is how every character in fiction has it.
Feb 11, 2015 9:56 AM

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People hate this show (key word here is hate) because it reminds them of the envious times in highschool when they would see some guys who would get all the girls or when their highschool sweatheart cheated on them. It rubs people the wrong way to see a story that turned into non-monogamy. Remember, monogamy is sacred in society especially for people who didn't get laid much. And let's not kid ourselves, the people who tend to watch anime weren't the kids who went to lots of parties in their youths. Nothing wrong with not having those experiences, but it's obvious why people hate this anime more so than an anime where rape is portrayed to not be such a bad thing.

Heck there was this popular negative review that said:

"The main character in this series has sex with pretty much every girl you'll see in this series, for no apparent reason"

But that's just ridiculous. Guys don't need reasons to fuck girls and vice versa. Maybe there are reasons not to but lust is not rational.
Feb 13, 2015 8:00 AM
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badwolf45f said:
Workman94 said:


3. As far as the characters and story goes,I have never seen a more realistic high-school anime than this as the characters act like people would in a situation like this. If you were the main character you would do the same thing,if not,you are either lying or you don't swing that way. The girls also are realistic as they show the different ways a girl could react to the events that took place.


If a guy did to me what Makoto did to the girls I would kick his balls but I wouldn't murder him ._. how's that realistic? (talking only on the fem characters)


Ha, do you read newspapers?

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actually, Here you go

Plus, today teenagers are exactly like those in the show.

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Exactly this.
Feb 15, 2015 5:30 PM

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Kolios said:
People hate this show (key word here is hate) because it reminds them of the envious times in highschool when they would see some guys who would get all the girls or when their highschool sweatheart cheated on them. It rubs people the wrong way to see a story that turned into non-monogamy. Remember, monogamy is sacred in society especially for people who didn't get laid much. And let's not kid ourselves, the people who tend to watch anime weren't the kids who went to lots of parties in their youths. Nothing wrong with not having those experiences, but it's obvious why people hate this anime more so than an anime where rape is portrayed to not be such a bad thing.

Heck there was this popular negative review that said:

"The main character in this series has sex with pretty much every girl you'll see in this series, for no apparent reason"

But that's just ridiculous. Guys don't need reasons to fuck girls and vice versa. Maybe there are reasons not to but lust is not rational.


Basically. It bothers me how many people dislike School Days just because the character were mean. That was the point the show was trying to drive, but they completely missed the somewhat obvious character motives.
Feb 18, 2015 3:54 PM

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Nah, I liked the anime, it gets too much shit, I gave it a 7, because it was good and addicting to watch for me personally, some just hate the MC for being a prick, I say he doesn't deserve the heat. 7/10
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Feb 22, 2015 10:11 PM

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No, it deserves all the hate it gets and more

And seriously?

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Is it just me or is this show overhated? To me this show is probably the most realistic and cleverly executed deconstruction of the harem genre.


Realistic? Are you fucking kidding me? So to you "Realistic" means a group of girls willingly having sex with a guy who is denser than a fucking black hole, and a complete dickhead. Yeah okay.

And when you say that this deconstructs the Harem genre, no. It doesn't. All it is, is softcore porn.

You insult men when you say that we want to be like Makoto. He's a disgusting example of human life, who doesn't even realize he's doing something wrong when he has sex with 7 or 8 girls, AT THE SAME TIME.

The only props this show gets from me is that it made me completely despise the main character, more than any other anime MC in existence, and then proceeded to give me a satisfying conclusion, by killing him.
"You either die an Ashita no Joe, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Naruto."
Feb 24, 2015 4:38 PM
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Well, you cant bang every girl and get happy ending. He failed the routes and got bad ending.
like quite a few people stated, this show is overrhated just because most of people are jealous :P
Btw, there is a lot of people like Makoto, you just or dont know any or you just dont want to accept, plus, anime is faaaar from softcore porn. TBH, i dont even remember did i see any boobs in this anime. You should give a To Love-ru and Kiss x Sis a try, and if that is not enough i bet we could find some more (softcore ofc)

But hey, everyone rate based on their enjoyment and their own criteria.
Feb 25, 2015 12:37 PM

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I agree OP. A score of 6.40 doesn't really give the show justice.

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No, it deserves all the hate it gets and more

And seriously?

Workman94 said:
Is it just me or is this show overhated? To me this show is probably the most realistic and cleverly executed deconstruction of the harem genre.


Realistic? Are you fucking kidding me? So to you "Realistic" means a group of girls willingly having sex with a guy who is denser than a fucking black hole, and a complete dickhead. Yeah okay.

And when you say that this deconstructs the Harem genre, no. It doesn't. All it is, is softcore porn.

You insult men when you say that we want to be like Makoto. He's a disgusting example of human life, who doesn't even realize he's doing something wrong when he has sex with 7 or 8 girls, AT THE SAME TIME.

The only props this show gets from me is that it made me completely despise the main character, more than any other anime MC in existence, and then proceeded to give me a satisfying conclusion, by killing him.


The OP didn't say we should be like Makoto. For people who think that he was supposed to be cool for having lots of sex, I would have to disagree with them. His disgusting behavior is supposed to induce feelings of dislike, because we see a character who's primal urges for sex override his sense of morality. He ends up harming other people in the process of satisfying his lust. Essentially, I believe we're supposed to hate him and learn a lesson about sex and relationships.
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LPGeneratorx said:
No, it deserves all the hate it gets and more

And seriously?

Workman94 said:
Is it just me or is this show overhated? To me this show is probably the most realistic and cleverly executed deconstruction of the harem genre.


Realistic? Are you fucking kidding me? So to you "Realistic" means a group of girls willingly having sex with a guy who is denser than a fucking black hole, and a complete dickhead. Yeah okay.

And when you say that this deconstructs the Harem genre, no. It doesn't. All it is, is softcore porn.

You insult men when you say that we want to be like Makoto. He's a disgusting example of human life, who doesn't even realize he's doing something wrong when he has sex with 7 or 8 girls, AT THE SAME TIME.

The only props this show gets from me is that it made me completely despise the main character, more than any other anime MC in existence, and then proceeded to give me a satisfying conclusion, by killing him.


It's answers like this that make me realize just how realistic this show is. People call these characters crazy and scum and a waste of life. Yet they sit here and talk about how someone who cheats deserves to be killed. Just some food for thought
Feb 27, 2015 3:28 AM

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Its just a shitty hentai visual novel adaptation with the "bad ending" as its conclusion,big freaking deal.
For all the "hate" its receiving troughout the years it also inadvertently received a ton attention from word of mouth and such (the no such thing as bad publicity deal) ,when there are so many other series that could have genuinely deserved said attention...
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Let's just call it a ''shitty masterpiece''
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