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| Honda lost crazy weight! I don't think I've seen such a huge change in such a short time frame. The episode itself wasn't too tense, that editor throwing a curveball was painful on the eyes. I've seen a many people forget to tell others to do stuff and end up foisting all responsibilities onto those other people to deal with their own screw-ups a lot of times in my line of work, yet it still annoys the hell out of me when I see it happen. That said, Miyamori did a great job to organize and direct the others to deal with the mini-challenge. Looking forward to seeing what Zuka will bring to the show. Seeing her able to keep her spirits up was a treat to see. Seems like next episode will deal with Hiraoka and that Titanic Studios that he introduced to Musani. Got the feeling this episode was totally just the calm before the storm. |
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| This weeks episode was awesome. It's good to see Honda in his new slim bearing after him not appearing in the series for a while. Also, Miyamori is showing her experience as the Andou and Satou are making mistakes up the ass. But no Zuka pain and suffering? This had the prospect if being the best episode. That PV looked pretty decent at the end too. Maybe PA Works can make a spin-off series in respect to the Exodus and Third Girls Aerial Squad shows. I'd watch it. One question though, are PVs really that complicated to make or the show just make it look hard just for the sake of making a whole episode comprising of the process? |
| Why do people have such bad taste? Anime isn't subjective anymore. |
| Woah Honda, you go :) Doing what he has always wanted to do has done him a lot of good. Aoi is just amazing. Everyone relies on her a lot and she gets things done. I like how she's very open and would even ask a well-known person in the industry for help. "Asking is free." Very true, and I wish I had guts like her. It's been said many times before, but can't help but feel proud of Aoi's growth since the beginning. She seems less stressed and is able to handle things well. Ema as well, especially when she was checking up on her kouhai's work, and giving her some critiques. Midori is also amazing when she made that thing (idk what you call it) for the animator's reference. She's a jack of all trades. So happy for Shizuka too when she took over the Plum Piggie, omg so cute. Liked that PV in the end, good job everyone :) |
KittyDaFuhrer said: You can answer this question yourself by watching some PVs, this is a PV 2 months before the show airs, most of the PVs that are released in that time are very basic stuff mostly just showing character designs and some info about when it'll air and whatnot, one would think those don't really take much effort to make aside from basic video editing skills, thing with this one is that it was going to air on a special event so they wanted to include animation and that sort of PVs usually only come out when less than 1 month is left for the show to start, unless it's a movie or a big project like that, so obviously it required a lot more work here.This weeks episode was awesome. It's good to see Honda in his new slim bearing after him not appearing in the series for a while. Also, Miyamori is showing her experience as the Andou and Satou are making mistakes up the ass. But no Zuka pain and suffering? This had the prospect if being the best episode. That PV looked pretty decent at the end too. Maybe PA Works can make a spin-off series in respect to the Exodus and Third Girls Aerial Squad shows. I'd watch it. One question though, are PVs really that complicated to make or the show just make it look hard just for the sake of making a whole episode comprising of the process? |
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| I BELIEVE I CAN FLY~♫ I BELIEVE I CAN TOUCH THE SKY~♫  5/5 |
| How even. Teach me your ways Honda! Haha, Director's jealous xD That's what I like about Miyamori, absolutely fearless. I've had enough with that a**wipe manager = = Ahh the noobies have it rough;; KitKatsssssssssssssssssss Nice one Zuka! Been a while since that donut ritual. Miyamori's sendpie status is amazing. Awesome PV! Good work everyone! |
| The new colleagues are learning! Dawwww. Liked the episode with the characters developing well (and in Honda's case extremely well). We should at this point, appreciate the effort put into making an anime. |
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| Dat Honda extreme makeover. That Zuka-chan pig dance was hilarious. I literally cant fucking stand Takanashi anymore. He already pissed me off in the first half, but he's become noticeably more worthless and goddamn annoying in the second cour. Now he literally complains about everything, and then immediately struts around the office bragging about useless and pathetic he is at his job knowing he wont get fired. And since he wont get fired he just trolls and talks about how ridiculously awesome he is. Honestly is this show left the SoL genre for 2 minutes just to kill his ass off, I'd immediately rate this show a 10. I love how when Hiraoka was first introduced in the second half, everyone was like "oh yea, he seems like a cool character. He's probably going to be really good"....nope, just turns out he's another fucking asshole. At least he got chewed out a bit this episode. Put the dog in his place. |
| "To ask is free". Haha. I love you Miyamori. Just love her guts. And Honda really looked good now; still can't get enough of Director's cuteness every time he is in the zone. HAHA. That pose. |
| Lol... fat alliance!! Man, Honda is handsome without his fat. The new PAs have their own quirks and the new animator was so adorable ^^ How the heck Ema understands her?? Director Kinoshita was fuckin' hilarious in this episode. From being tsundere towards Honda, suddenly standing up & spreading his hands during the sound recording, and then trying out the harness XD I want to see Shizuka doing the piggy dance without costume!! The PV was awesome though.. especially the flying jets part. The clouds are indeed beautiful. Hopefully the 2nd special would be about 3rd Aerial Girls Squad. |
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| Honda since when you become slim!!? XD Don-Don-Donuts once again xD poor Satou and Andou they get lost congrats the PV is completed :D Shaniyaz said:  lol kantoku imagination is so awesome |
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| Techno-rave piggy! All we need now are glow sticks, lasers and a night scene. |
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| Kantoku is awesome. Honda-san became attractive. Lol at Fat alliance. Andou, and Satou are doing fine. Good thing they aren't taking after Takanash. But Hiroaka is an ass. PV shows that Titanic company is gonna give Miyamori some problems next episode. |
MagitoFeb 5, 2015 11:24 PM
| The Director had me laughing throughout the entire episode. |
| that PV looked pretty awesome, i'd totally watch it if it were an actual TV show. kunogi is awkward as fuck, thank god there's ema to help her communicate lol hiraoka is still annoying, i wonder how aoi will deal with him. |
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| Why are the dances in this show so good lol! |
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| Zuka-chan ver. of the ending <3 Damn Honda tell me how to lose weight while you're surrounded by cakes! The PV's awesome! I want to see the anime they're making... |
 Musani-who + Jiggly x2 Heaven's Kinoshita lol. Naniwa Animation should handle this since they're good at stuffs related to cute girls. G.I. Staff is a good alternative too. Musani isn't a good choice for this, Exodus was literally littered with still frames, badly-drawn cats and car chase with only the last episode being the only well-animated episode. Oh boy, Aerial Girls' already fucked. inb4 recaps and original ending |
HachiKirraFeb 6, 2015 3:40 AM
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| Brilliant, the inclusion of the PV business makes Aerial girls squad feel far more complete than Exodus, also great balance between the two shows, with Exodus we see what happens during the season and AGS is pre-season. |
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| Wow, the Aerial girls character designs look so good! Newbies looking up to Ema and Aoi, I love it! I'm still hoping they will end up getting Shizuka to voice one of the Aerial girls. The animation quality has been really good the whole series! |
| Am I the only one who noticed that Takanashi is becoming somewhat bearable? I mean, while he's still stupid and talk a lot, at least now he kinda accepting his flaws, breaking some lil bit of ice on that new white hair PA by offering some beer, and most importantly he actually get the job done. I prefer working with him for a week rather than with that funny story fu*kin editor for a single day. |
| And they managed to do the preview without that much trouble. And slowly the girls are getting united. It was fun seeing Konugi's trying to express what she wanted, it was so cute <3 Also, looks like the ED is doing each girl by the time. |
zeroyuki92 said: Am I the only one who noticed that Takanashi is becoming somewhat bearable? I mean, while he's still stupid and talk a lot, at least now he kinda accepting his flaws, breaking some lil bit of ice on that new white hair PA by offering some beer, and most importantly he actually get the job done. I prefer working with him for a week rather than with that funny story fu*kin editor for a single day. Nope you're not the only one. He's more of a joke character now. Actually it was the same case before this too, just that his mistakes were blown up more than others but as Miyamori stated everyone makes mistakes. As goofy and as delusional as he is, as you said he got the job done and in a timely fashion too. He actually learned from his experiences and made no mistake this time. I'd rather have Takanashi in a team rather than someone who's unmotivated and unhelpful like Hiraoka. He's the worst kind of person you'd want working in a team project. |
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| Mallony said: The animation quality has been really good the whole series! I'm going to agree with you 95%, but whenever I re-watch the early episodes, it always seems to me that there were noticeable problems with Episode 1 that are not subtle at all. When we first meet the girls, there is quite a lot of attention to their love of donuts. So we are all staring at the donuts. However, the animation of the donuts was remarkably poor. To those of us who live in places where donuts are commonly eaten, they have a normal size and shape. To be technical, they have a certain inner diameter and outer diameter. However, the five girls were eating donuts whose dimensions changed magically during the scene. Especially, look at the size of their fingers compared to the donuts that they are holding. Here are three webpages which were specifically about Episode 1 and show many still images: http://anicobin.ldblog.jp/archives/41269962.html http://blog.livedoor.jp/ponpokonwes/archives/14627863.html http://otanews.livedoor.biz/archives/52003641.html The first day Aoi came to work, one of the first people that she met was Misato Segawa (瀬川 美里) the work-at-home freelance key animator. Misato was also the animation supervisor (作画監督) for Episodes 4 and 9 of "Exodus!". So this is an important person. But look at the first views of her. Warning, major large- cup-size fanservice, made all the more remarkable given that Misato was leaning backwards! I mean, is that even physically possible without 100% silicone? http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ponpokonwes/imgs/c/b/cb620a64-s.jpg http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ponpokonwes/imgs/0/7/07ebd8df-s.jpg I am not complaining about the fanservice. But this was entirely inconsistent with the level of fanservice throughout the remainder of the series. The only possible exception was much later in the series in the swimming pool scene in Episode 17 where we briefly got to see Mimujī and Roro in revealing swimsuits. But that was tasteful and story-related. Another thing in Episode 1 which I think was a major flaw was that Aoi went into the party room and we were all introduced to many characters all at once. I just can't see how that was a sensible idea. It made Episode 1 confusing. The normal thing in anime, or any kind of story telling, is to introduce a few characters at a time. This principle applies even for series with an enormous cast, such as "Girl Friend Beta". Or "War and Peace", for that matter. Another possible criticism was the long "Initial D" scene which was great animation but ineffective story telling. In summary, Shirobako is a classic. But I think there was something not quite in gear in Episode 1. |
okanaganFeb 6, 2015 11:53 PM
| Damn I hate the new guy, having someone like that in the office would drive me insane. Poor Oi-chan :-( Anyways, I'd actually like to see this Aerial Girls anime, the lead character Aria seems kinda interesting. She reminds me a lot of Piruluk-tan  |
| My old Japan blog which I'm never going to finish: https://ramenshojo.wordpress.com/2016/08/07/day-6-nakano-broadway-harmonica-street-zauo-restaurant/ |
| Tarou's taking a long route to being a decent guy, I think. He's no way near the most irritating staff now that the new Hiraoka guy is here. I'd hate to work with someone like that... I want Miyamori to snap and yell at him soon... Though, Tarou x Hiraoka, nice. Ema as a mentor figure is cute. |
zeroyuki92 said: Am I the only one who noticed that Takanashi is becoming somewhat bearable? I mean, while he's still stupid and talk a lot, at least now he kinda accepting his flaws, breaking some lil bit of ice on that new white hair PA by offering some beer, and most importantly he actually get the job done. I prefer working with him for a week rather than with that funny story fu*kin editor for a single day. My dislike has shifted from Tarou to Hiraoka. I can't grasp his character at all, whether he's irresponsible, lazy or just unsocial... and that preview + next episode title! "You Set Me Up!" ? Does that mean Hiraoka is an asshole? Eh?? Tarou is just comic relief now, as someone stated before. Saying that, showing the PV was really great. To see the "product" after all the issues and character efforts put into it is really, really nice. I found it kind of funny when Satou was going around to all the animators. Their reactions, hahaha. Satou probably has it tougher than Andou in adapting to the work environment, since I believe she was an OL before this. |
okanagan said: Mallony said: The animation quality has been really good the whole series! I'm going to agree with you 95%, but whenever I re-watch the early episodes, it always seems to me that there were noticeable problems with Episode 1 that are not subtle at all. When we first meet the girls, there is quite a lot of attention to their love of donuts. So we are all staring at the donuts. However, the animation of the donuts was remarkably poor. To those of us who live in places where donuts are commonly eaten, they have a normal size and shape. To be technical, they have a certain inner diameter and outer diameter. However, the five girls were eating donuts whose dimensions changed magically during the scene. Especially, look at the size of their fingers compared to the donuts that they are holding. Here are three webpages which were specifically about Episode 1 and show many still images: http://anicobin.ldblog.jp/archives/41269962.html http://blog.livedoor.jp/ponpokonwes/archives/14627863.html http://otanews.livedoor.biz/archives/52003641.html The first day Aoi came to work, one of the first people that she met was Misato Segawa (瀬川 美里) the work-at-home freelance key animator. Misato was also the animation supervisor (作画監督) for Episodes 4 and 9 of "Exodus!". So this is an important person. But look at the first views of her. Warning, major large- cup-size fanservice, made all the more remarkable given that Misato was leaning backwards! I mean, is that even physically possible without 100% silicone? http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ponpokonwes/imgs/c/b/cb620a64-s.jpg http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ponpokonwes/imgs/0/7/07ebd8df-s.jpg I am not complaining about the fanservice. But this was entirely inconsistent with the level of fanservice throughout the remainder of the series. The only possible exception was much later in the series in the swimming pool scene in Episode 17 where we briefly got to see Mimujī and Roro in revealing swimsuits. But that was tasteful and story-related. Another thing in Episode 1 which I think was a major flaw was that Aoi went into the party room and we were all introduced to many characters all at once. I just can't see how that was a sensible idea. It made Episode 1 confusing. The normal thing in anime, or any kind of story telling, is to introduce a few characters at a time. This principle applies even for series with an enormous cast, such as "Girl Friend Beta". Or "War and Peace", for that matter. Another possible criticism was the long "Initial D" scene which was great animation but ineffective story telling. In summary, Shirobako is a classic. But I think there was something not quite in gear in Episode 1. Absolutely no offense here, but I just found that nitpicking about donut size is very lolworthy that I was thinking you are joking. I actually was kind of chuckling there :)) Btw yeah, working with Hiraoka would be sucks, but I think he's workable, just need some time for myamori slap to redeem himself. |
| another great episode. another emergency for the company. and that's not even unrealistic... people like that guy are just unable to think everything through for once. It's amazing how Ema is able to interpret every gesture of Kunogi correctly :D I mean if you know what she meant it makes sense but I would have taken forever to get to tooth brush just by what she did. |
| Dat new girl is really cute. I love her bond with Ema, too. Man it's great these girls are working harder. Zuka's pig acting was nice too. Well, I am absent-minded and I totally am." "Run inside the train so you'll be faster." LOL that was a good one. Man flowing somen is really popular recently. That's twice the week, firt it was Koufuku Graffiti. Man, that in-anime PV looks really interesting. 100% would watch. |
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| zeroyuki92 said: I just found that nitpicking about donut size is very lolworthy that I was thinking you are joking. I actually was kind of chuckling there. Thanks for asking me to clarify whether I was joking or not. I was actually being serious. Those donuts have never looked right to me. Since the don-don-dialog makes us all focus our attention on the donuts, it is essential that they be drawn correctly. There is much more flexibility for things in the background since they are in our peripheral vision. zeroyuki92 also said: Absolutely no offense here. None taken. I think you are being reasonable to wonder whether I'm nitpicking. But I've been a long-time fan of Mizushima ever since "Squid Girl" (2010). He is famous for extreme technical accuracy, most notably in the tanks in "Girls und Panzer" (2012). That drift-racing car is in fact an accurately-reproduced Volvo 240. Mizushima said so in a tweet to his fans. Apparently, some fan tweeted him asking for the model number. Here is the link to that tweet from Mizushima (in Japanese): https://twitter.com/tsuki_akari/status/561959039110627330 Back during "GuP", fans were constantly tweeting Mizushima with all kinds of detailed questions about the tanks and other military hardware, and he always had precise answers. In addition to that, he was quick to admit any mistakes spotted by sharp-eyed fans. One time, the aiming viewfinder had a pattern for a German tank. But in the story it was an American tank. Mizushima promised to correct the mistake when the Blu-ray / DVD came out. Also, the airplanes seen in Shirobako are all incredibly realistic according to the experts on these threads. ErwinJA created a specialized thread just to discuss this. Even those cute planes flown by the doll Mimujii and the bear Roro were closely-modelled on actual military aircraft, down to some details associated with specific subtypes. They are not just generic "planes". Another aspect of the realism of this series is that fans in Japan have gone out and discovered the actual locations of many of the exterior backgrounds. They are nearly photographic in their accuracy, as you can see here: http://seitiblog.jp/blog-entry-79.html So, to me, the donuts don't look up to Mizushima's standards. I am actually wondering whether he didn't check the storyboard for that episode. Maybe he was off sick with the flu or something. The whole episode just doesn't carry his perfectionistic style. |
okanaganFeb 8, 2015 11:22 AM
| Hiraoka is damn annoying. Not wanting to go to meetings, always in a bad mood. Honestly, idk why he even applied for the job. It's refreshing to see Honda again, only this time skinny. Being surrounded by cakes probably made him bored of eating them. Now if only that other fat dude could lose weight. Nice to see Zuka-chan again. It was cute seeing her step up and play the role of that mascot. |
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| Good episode. |
[right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
| Work in Anime Industry = Gained Weight Work in Cake Shop = Loss Weight lol |
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| hentai_proxy said: I understand that you criticize this anime precisely because you like it very much. Is this correct? Ha ha. Sure. That is a very good way of putting it. hentai_proxy said: I remember you saying something to the effect that Animation Runner Kuromi was one of your first anime. Yes that's right. The two-part OVA, "Animation Runner Kuromi" (2001, 2004) (Animeshon Seisaku Shinkō Kuromi-chan), was a wonderful documentation of the normal methods of animation back at that time. But it was not nearly so realistic as Shirobako. Basically, they only focused on the people doing a few of the jobs. The show only emphasized the key animation (原画). The main character, Kuromi, did two jobs: Production Assistant (制作進行) and Production Desk (制作デスク). That was because the studio was extremely small so that there was in fact only a single Production Assistant. Only the job title "Production Desk" was on Kuromi's name card. In addition, one character was the Animation Supervisor (作画監督). Finally, a guy was in charge of sound recording (音響監督), even though we normally just saw him standing around and chatting. One of the characters briefly mentions the fact that all of the filming and post- production is now done digitally. Back around 2000, the anime industry was going through a major transition to digital. Prior to 2000, all of the drawing and coloring was done on actual sheets of clear plastic. These were then filmed using a camera. This was called "cel-based animation". I always find it amazing to look back at pre-2000 series and see how different they looked. The final TV anime series to make the switchover from cel-based to digital was "Sazae-san" in late 2013. Here is the preview of the English dub of Part 1 of "Kuromi" (2001): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21ZsPLhMs0Q Given that beautiful documentations of the anime industry have been done in 2001 and then in 2014, I don't expect to see the next one until the year 2027. |
okanaganFeb 10, 2015 4:36 AM
okanagan said: ...Prior to 2000, all of the drawing and coloring was done on actual sheets of clear plastic. These were then filmed using a camera. This was called "cel-based animation"... Wow, that sounds like a pain in the ass to do. Thanks for the info bro, I always learn something new everytime I read one of your comments. |
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| Yay Shizuka finally getting some more work ~ <3 Also friggin slim Honda lmao |
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| Even making a PV is hard work. Good episode. |
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| Dat weight losss |
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jin15 said: Work in Anime Industry = Gained Weight Work in Cake Shop = Loss Weight lol That's true though. Work in the anime industry is pretty stressful and assuming he sits at a desk most of the time, he's not getting in any exercise. He's probably more physically active at the cake shop and being surrounded by cakes all the time can make a person not want to eat any cake. It's weird. |
| That editor... htsuji said: Ouch! Another "Funny story!" I have to punch the editor... Really makes one feel like that, yeah... Still, Hiraoka is even worse. Especially this episode, makes you wonder whether he ever actually does any work at all... |
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