Your Lie in April
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kikohunter said: This anime is suffering from too much style too little substance. The teenagers talking like they're some sort of poets is getting cringeworthy. The soundtrack, directing and the production values might be insane but it doesn't stop the fact that the characters just seem extremely unrealistic. I hope they'll manage to change all this, I was able to withstand the flaws in the beginning but now it's getting way too far. The substance is good enough, to be honest. I didn't think the dialogue in this episode was "poetic" at all. |
kikohunter said: This anime is suffering from too much style too little substance. The teenagers talking like they're some sort of poets is getting cringeworthy. The soundtrack, directing and the production values might be insane but it doesn't stop the fact that the characters just seem extremely unrealistic. I hope they'll manage to change all this, I was able to withstand the flaws in the beginning but now it's getting way too far. I don't think it will change. If you want substance, sticking to the classics should be enough. If you want the real deal: cinema. mayukachan said: The substance is good enough, to be honest. I didn't think the dialogue in this episode was "poetic" at all. I rather than poetic it was theatrical. |
| That moment when he answered back to his mom. My goodness. He has such a sad past. |
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| He's not listening again... Damn, I'm pretty glad Kousei's mother is dead. I mean, she was such a bitch. If she was alive he would still be suffering, i'm pretty sure. And he was so cute as a kid :( Intense episode. |
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kikohunter said: This anime is suffering from too much style too little substance. The teenagers talking like they're some sort of poets is getting cringeworthy. The soundtrack, directing and the production values might be insane but it doesn't stop the fact that the characters just seem extremely unrealistic. I hope they'll manage to change all this, I was able to withstand the flaws in the beginning but now it's getting way too far. Unrealistic? Why's that? Because they're 11? Did you not think this way when you were 11? Were you never this passionate in your life? Did you have a bland and boring childhood where your everyday life was being glued to a monitor or screen? Aw, that's unfortunate. |
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| ^ Like I said, because artstyle. I don't get why you think it's a shoujo/josei other than for that reason~ |
kikohunter said: Kurogashi said: Unrealistic? Why's that? Because they're 11? Did you not think this way when you were 11? Were you never this passionate in your life? Did you have a bland and boring childhood where your everyday life was being glued to a monitor or screen? Aw, that's unfortunate. Well I sure as hell didn't spend half my time thinking about philosophical stuff for no reason at all. And I didn't go around spouting nonsense, also a 4-5 year old thinking about being handsome is borderline retarded. Dialogue suffers badly from stuff like this and it's cringeworthy. Then don't watch it? |
y123y said: mayukachan said: Now I could go on and on about why I think that, but I dont wanna bore you. :)^ Like I said, because artstyle. I don't get why you think it's a shoujo/josei other than for that reason~ Lol, no you're just putting generalizations on demographics now which is funny. I had a friend who called Silver Spoon a girly anime. Oh man, people these days.. MiniMoose10 said: kikohunter said: Well I sure as hell didn't spend half my time thinking about philosophical stuff for no reason at all. And I didn't go around spouting nonsense, also a 4-5 year old thinking about being handsome is borderline retarded. Dialogue suffers badly from stuff like this and it's cringeworthy. Then don't watch it? "but i don't drop anime even though i clearly dislike it!!" |
y123y said: Ummmm.... dont you do the same? ..... i don't dislike most shows i watch actually. if anything, trash entertain me the most. or i keep watching shows i dislike because they're good (eg: mushishi) and i finish shows that people (like you) "encourage" me to watch ;) |
| ^ oh no, i like the shows you gave me but like some parts of them make me rage really hard (especially the sexism). you remember, right? :P also i love high school of the dead it was super fun to watch as for school days, that's a must-watch anime for everyone so ofc i finished it. especially for the ending. (my anime scores =/= how much i like something) -Skyleo- said: Yep, I think it's something like that too, more than "poetic". As I said earlier, even if some situations are really relatable, it's quite often dramatically staged, very romanticized, with a lot of "figurative language", and it may even be considered as "overwrought" (as I've seen in an other thread). But hey, I honestly think that it's a choice. This theatricality is characteritic of good shounen. I mean, the rivals/future nakamas, the characters who start telling their life when they perform, the flashbacks right in the middle of a performance... Come on, Dragon Ball, Captain Tsubasa, Dragon Quest, Saint Seiya or even Yakitate Japan or KuroBas, it's the same kind of approach, but with music (and musical problems as well) instead of sport/battle. And I'm pretty sure that some of good movies/novel use the same "theatrical approach". Probably. +1 |
| No problem with that. It's just confusing when people write in such a way that it makes it seem like they want to gouge their eyes out because of how bad it is. |
MiniMoose10 said: No problem with that. It's just confusing when people write in such a way that it makes it seem like they want to gouge their eyes out because of how bad it is. At least it's not as cancerous as Solvite's bashing for the first few weeks. ^^; I should just be more tolerant of criticism in the future. |
| That's why I don't write reviews, at all. ^^; I'm guessing you get Ano Hana fans bugging you? Assuming nobody gets that riled over 6/10s or 10/10s.. |
kikohunter said: I like Shigatsu, just felt like writing a little about what I don't like about it. You're in the right. Without people criticizing all we'd only have comments like "Perfect show! Anime can't stop getting better! This is the piano of my life ♥; Perfect violin I hope Kaori is okay! OMG dat cliffhanger! Emi performance was just perfect!!!!" Just take your time and throw your rage, you're welcome. |
-Skyleo- said: Yep, I think it's something like that too, more than "poetic". As I said earlier, even if some situations are really relatable, it's quite often dramatically staged, very romanticized, with a lot of "figurative language", and it may even be considered as "overwrought" (as I've seen in an other thread). But hey, I honestly think that it's a choice. This theatricality is characteritic of good shounen. I mean, the rivals/future nakamas, the characters who start telling their life when they perform, the flashbacks right in the middle of a performance... Come on, Dragon Ball, Captain Tsubasa, Dragon Quest, Saint Seiya or even Yakitate Japan or KuroBas, it's the same kind of approach, but with music (and musical problems as well) instead of sport/battle. And I'm pretty sure that some of good movies/novel use the same "theatrical approach". Probably. Theatrical performances are pretty common actually. Its not my cup of tea but its not bad by any mean. |
| the moment when he ask his mother to die, she really die. feels like it's going to get sadder and sadder? |
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| Dang. Arima had such a traumatic childhood... I wonder how he's going to deal with his loss of hearing during this competition. It'll be interesting to see how Takeshi and Emi deal with this, especially since Arima's their idol/reason for playing piano. Man, no wonder Arima's traumatized. I mean his last words to his mom were harsh, but at the same time, it's pretty hard to feel sympathetic for his mom... I'm super excited for the next episode (when am I not excited for another episode of shigatsu wa kimi no uso, tbh this is probably my favorite anime this season, or high up there at least). |
| What really pisses me off is Kosei's mum....honestly just go away already |
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| Giant flashback again, couldn't even get through his performance this episode. At least it was interesting, big trauma and it makes more sense this time around. I've still got a few questions about Kousei's mum but we'll see about that in due time. |
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| Oh no I fear that when Kousei perform he won't be able to hear the note and it came true for this episode but oh well I expect it to be resolved in future episode. Worried about Kaori, seeing her with a pile of medication is not a good sign, wish nothing bad happen to her in future episode. |
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Avertia said: This slow pace is getting annoying now 9 episodes in, and lets be honest, not a lot has happened... Yeah this ones kind of a slow burner that even seeing the manga raw up to date I'm still not 100% sure of the themes and direction it plans to take entirely. It's almost like it'll kind of change focus every 10 chapters or so. And yes it's definitely shonen in terms of construction though for some reason the art style is one typically used for shojou series. |
-Skyleo- said: Yup, but although I agree with you in a way, I must add that I assume you're pretty new on MAL forums. Yeah, I'm pretty new. surfboard_ said: Theatrical performances are pretty common actually. Its not my cup of tea but its not bad by any mean. Yeah, but judging by your favorites, it don't surprised me that it's not your cup of tea.[/quote] Other than Haibane Renmei, I don't find the others that much theatrical, or I am just misinterpratating the term. On the other hand, theatrical performances is very japanese. I think it have a charm on its own. Not only talking about anime, cinema as well. |
y123y said: You know, I guess im a bit angry from a personal standpoint. What I mean is that being tall, I see this short male MC's in animes. And not only that, but I played the tuba for like one semester in HS (even though I barely played it right) because they need it tuba players.... But just watch!!!!!!! One day, in the anime world, tall male and tuba players will take over the music anime genre!!!!!!! Even better, cute girls playing Euphonium :) Too bad getting an anime about band is really unlikely in the first place...... ;_; Also Kousei's like 12 and Asian boys are tiny so it's pretty accurate lol |
| Nvm, he's 14 LOL. And he looks around most of the Chinese boys' heights are in my high school. |
mayukachan said: Even better, cute girls playing Euphonium :) Too bad getting an anime about band is really unlikely in the first place...... ;_; Thats nice. |
| @y123y So sneaky!! Editing your comment after I posted mine >_> Sakamichi no Apollon was about characters and jazz. Not really a band with more than 10 people lol. I mean at times, they jammed but that's it. There was no band competition or band getting together kind of thing. K-ON!! Haha, no. I don't care about rock bands honestly. I'm interested in: -symphonies -orchestras -concert bands -chamber ensembles Unfortunately, I've seen all the anime related to those topics :/ |
| NOOOOOO WTF don't associate me with any of glasstrash's characters i'll call you fukae (the strawberry i my me guy >_>) then |
mayukachan said: NOOOOOO WTF don't associate me with any of glasstrash's characters i'll call you fukae (the strawberry i my me guy >_>) then kekhaha, was Glasslip 2deep4u? |
surfboard_ said: kekhaha, was Glasslip 2deep4u? nah i got the main gist of it, but the dialogues and characters were just beyond horrible. for it's premise and ideas, it could have been done a lot better. |
| While the flashbacks were happening I kept wondering if he was still playing fine back in the present. |
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mayukachan said: surfboard_ said: kekhaha, was Glasslip 2deep4u? nah i got the main gist of it, but the dialogues and characters were just beyond horrible. for it's premise and ideas, it could have been done a lot better. It was a lazy production, specially considering the studio that worked on it, but the general structure is very original. Its sad we couldn't feel like it was complete or fulfilled with the ending, but it is a lot more mature than other acclaimed shows like Nagi no Asakura. I'm hoping for a fansub to release a BD version. |
surfboard_ said: mayukachan said: nah i got the main gist of it, but the dialogues and characters were just beyond horrible. for it's premise and ideas, it could have been done a lot better. It was a lazy production, specially considering the studio that worked on it, but the general structure is very original. Its sad we couldn't feel like it was complete or fulfilled with the ending, but it is a lot more mature than other acclaimed shows like Nagi no Asakura. I'm hoping for a fansub to release a BD version. I won't deny the idea is original itself, but the execution wasn't. I've seen shows with good premises and ideas but the problem is how they explain and show it in the timespan. I feel like it could have been done much better if they didn't waste it with SOL moments and cringey pointless dialogue. Oh, and also the lesbian as well as the other love triangles. Pointless. |
mayukachan said: I won't deny the idea is original itself, but the execution wasn't. I've seen shows with good premises and ideas but the problem is how they explain and show it in the timespan. I feel like it could have been done much better if they didn't waste it with SOL moments and cringey pointless dialogue. Oh, and also the lesbian as well as the other love triangles. Pointless. What would be an original execution for you? The way they did it wasn't original but I don't think it was needed. What kind of explanation you wanted? And how was the love triangles (you mentioned the lesbian thing, is there anything special that differs from the other love triangles?) pointless? Isn't relationships one of the most reocurring themes during the teenage lifespan? |
| I don't mean execute it in a unique way. I mean, original/good idea + good execution in general. I can use one of your favourite shows (Time of Eve) as an example for this. Interesting idea (androids + unracist cafe) and good execution. Every episode was relevant and they didn't waste time. And for the majority of the MAL watchers of Glasslip to "not understand it" means that you just happened to connect with the show much more and feel it rather than to get confused and uncomfortable with it. And that's okay, but like me giving it a low score doesn't mean it was 2deep4me. It was far from that. Evangelion is 2deep4me though, but I know it's good.. I thought that if the show focused only on the Touko + David relationship while bringing out the ideas, it would be better. Oh, and if they were written better instead of us one dimensional characters. Otherwise, I would have preferred Yana + Yuki leading the entire show and for the show to be a realistic SOL instead of what it was, entirely. The other characters didn't really play into the main plot other than being her "friends" so I found all of the love drama pretty pointless. And in real life, if there was a group of friends (like 5 people let's say), they most likely wouldn't have some kind of love polygon going on. tl;dr just do friendship instead of forcing characters to have unrequited love >__> |
| Kousei telling his mom to die was beautiful. Thanks man, you said what we all wanted to. |
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| So its finally time for Arima's turn eh? He didn't even finish before the episode ended. I hope Kaori isn't setting up a death flag like his mother with all those medications. Arima's been through some serious trauma yo Still waiting for Arima's hair to turn white |
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| Kousei's mom was a bitch although no child should say something like that to a parent this woman deserved it. Loved the episode and Emi's performance. I'm worried about Kaori though |
FluffyFlesh said: Onodera-chan said: Death flag's been raised and waved. I hope Kaoru doesn't break my heart. Emi is cute, I like her for Kousei (if Kaoru does break my heart). Read the title of the anime translated in english , you shouldnt get much hopes on the romance part . It is more like a story about a guy that has too many problems for a girl to take him as a boyfriend but instead she helps him getting past those difficulties and by the time those are solved they are too comfortable with each other to make any move , basically they will be friendzoning each other . The story is more about his problem solving , the romance part is just the bait. "Your lie in April" gave away itself . Still , since I dont know the ending and sometimes I wish to know it , I said what I had to say : the romance is the bait , the main dish is Arima getting passed his trauma. Thats how the things look to me. The manga's still ongoing though (I think) so you never know.. I'm also tempted to read it but. |
mayukachan said: I don't mean execute it in a unique way. I mean, original/good idea + good execution in general. I can use one of your favourite shows (Time of Eve) as an example for this. Interesting idea (androids + unracist cafe) and good execution. Every episode was relevant and they didn't waste time. I see what you mean. Yeah, we kind of demand something original out of animations, I mean, its a fantasy world after all so its only logic to explore what we can't in other formats. mayukachan said: And for the majority of the MAL watchers of Glasslip to "not understand it" means that you just happened to connect with the show much more and feel it rather than to get confused and uncomfortable with it. And that's okay, but like me giving it a low score doesn't mean it was 2deep4me. It was far from that. Evangelion is 2deep4me though, but I know it's good.. Isn't it common to have polarized and extremely opinions about artistic productions over the time? The same happened with Clockwork Orange, that came to become a "cult" thing after years of censorship. Another example is In the Realm of Sense, the once considered bordeline porno is now evaluated as study material in the psychology field, just like 120 Days of Sodom, Tropic of Capricorn. Its no different in music and painting. What I want to say is that opinions and values can change overtime, just like ratings on MAL. mayukachan said: I thought that if the show focused only on the Touko + David relationship while bringing out the ideas, it would be better. Oh, and if they were written better instead of us one dimensional characters. Otherwise, I would have preferred Yana + Yuki leading the entire show and for the show to be a realistic SOL instead of what it was, entirely. The other characters didn't really play into the main plot other than being her "friends" so I found all of the love drama pretty pointless. And in real life, if there was a group of friends (like 5 people let's say), they most likely wouldn't have some kind of love polygon going on. tl;dr just do friendship instead of forcing characters to have unrequited love >__> That would change the direction of the show and the point of the group and friendship, migrating into another generic SOL. "And in real life, if there was a group of friends (like 5 people let's say), they most likely wouldn't have some kind of love polygon going on. tl;dr just do friendship instead of forcing characters to have unrequited love" Isn't that a possibility? Thats the whole point of working with fictional stories. And forcing characters to have unrequited love over friends is also a way to deal with friendship. |
| SO we get some flashbacks to learn about Emi's past as well as Kousei's. And now he can't hear the piano again. I wonder how this will turn out. |
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| Nurufufufu~ Keeping up with this eps discussion, it seems that this eps got a mixed views... As expected. I already stated that even I can't really say that I liked this episode. But, I give it a 4.5/5, contradicting much? Well, in my perspective, this kind of development is actually still commendable.... for a "teen" drama show. Yeah people, "teen" drama. You see, writing a drama is a "tricky" thing as it may lead to a "hit-or-miss" type of show. You just make it more and more "tricky" by adding "teen" to it. If not written properly, it may turns to a teen drama which contain too much melodrama, or turns into a cringe-worthy show that has too much shouting/crying scenes. Shigatsu, however, as far as I can tell, still able to contain its level of realistic tone (again, for a teen drama). IMO, having Kousei-chan still has his "I can't hear the notes" drama with that kind of childhood is still "realistic" in a way. Yes, it has its own share of cheesy romance and character interaction, but IMO, it's still on the level where it is "forgiveable" and still able to balance it with the music theme..... for a teen drama. With this being said, with this eps, Shigatsu's still developing quite well as a teen drama (because it IS a teen drama). Of course, if you think teen drama isn't for you, then you'll most likely found this kind of development irksome. As for the dialogue, I'm agree with this surfboard_ guy that said its more to theatrical than poetic. Plus, I think it's only me, but somehow the way the dialogues go on feels like a bit similar from those of Makoto Shinkai's works... I mean, try to take a look at 5 cm/s, and you'll find the MC guy spouted "poetic" (or theatrical) monologue lines as well, even though he's still 14 at that time (just like Kousei-chan). Edit: Wait, I haven't touch another issue, which is that remix of "winter wind". I forget that. Huh, of course I forget that. Why? Because it's FRIGGIN' UGLY, that's why. |
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