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02-11-10, 2:42 AM

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Just like the 1st part, I didn't like it at all.
The story is messed up, the characters are stupid, the comedy is pathetic.
Thank god this crappy arc ended. Next arc looks gorgeous.
 
04-23-10, 10:41 PM

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Loved it loved it loved it.
 
05-18-10, 7:09 AM

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This reminded me of Kurozuka. So damn much. EDIT: Ok, nevermind. Same director.
What is disturbing is that Pumbaa is not the weirdest thing in this 'arc'. This must have been made on drugs. I don't even know what to think about it yet.
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05-21-10, 4:29 PM

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Shigeru's, or w/e his name is, VA doesn't suit him at all. Boring. Liked the last part. The whole witch thing was freaky. That's all.
 
05-28-10, 9:28 PM

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Wtf again. lol That ending was a bit confusing but overall that was pretty entertaining.


 
06-06-10, 9:20 PM

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kimmiechan said:
Gaara_The_Great said:
Absolutely brilliant. Tetsuro Araki manages to surpass his previous work--Kurozuka. Also, I think there wasn't any girl, it's just Shigemaru's imagination though it's obviously left to the viewers to decide for themselves.


I agree...Here's what I think:

Thanks for making sense of this madness.
 
06-22-10, 9:49 PM

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I want to say she wasn't a demon, but who dances with chop heads. So it was all in his head... maybe, good arc.
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09-03-10, 9:26 AM

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i'm scared of cherry blossoms now...never going 2 the parade...thanx

wat was up with that at the end? getting sukd into the tree? nd was the chik a demon really or was he hallucinating?

nd lol @ the grandma frm the city who smelled country bumpkin xD
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10-31-10, 12:00 AM

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The most accurate depiction of all the stories' in the anime. There was one scene I was looking forward to seeing, mostly for its comedic effect, but that the anime left out. In the original story, the woman had the heads tearing off each others' flesh, and when the head begins to rot, she would throw them away and get new one's. I found that kind of funny XD
 
02-18-11, 4:08 PM

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aero said:
kimmiechan said:
Gaara_The_Great said:
Absolutely brilliant. Tetsuro Araki manages to surpass his previous work--Kurozuka. Also, I think there wasn't any girl, it's just Shigemaru's imagination though it's obviously left to the viewers to decide for themselves.


I agree...Here's what I think:

Thanks for making sense of this madness.


Then why did his ex-wives question him about bringing home another woman? Unless you're saying every one of the girls were imaginary, but then the little girl was talking with an old lady.
 
02-18-11, 4:08 PM

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aero said:
kimmiechan said:
Gaara_The_Great said:
Absolutely brilliant. Tetsuro Araki manages to surpass his previous work--Kurozuka. Also, I think there wasn't any girl, it's just Shigemaru's imagination though it's obviously left to the viewers to decide for themselves.


I agree...Here's what I think:

Thanks for making sense of this madness.


Then why did his ex-wives question him about bringing home another woman? Unless you're saying every one of the girls were imaginary, but then the little girl was talking with an old lady.
 
05-14-11, 7:47 PM

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Weird episode. hmmmm.
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06-24-11, 11:17 PM

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Really? Only one person mentioned the light novels in comparison to the show having actually read the source. Perhaps you'd like to read all of the comments before you post.
Be that as it may I do agree with the person you've responded to. It seems you and others alike are too caught up in comparing one series to something completely different. You yourself said you've never had the chance to properly read the literature. Yet you openly discredit this based on a unfounded bias you apparently have bought over from another series; as if the two are intertwined.

Being the non cynical and open minded person that I am there are parts of this particular episode that might come across as strange. The humor and comedy aside with the suspense and psychological can be a bit disorientating at times. All and all that's what makes it a very unique adaption; since I assume cell phones, ear phones, and Moe was far from what the author originally wanted to get across.

It's a very refreshing, yet similar, aura compared to the previous 4 episodes.
 
12-30-11, 1:51 PM

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In the end the question remains if all of this can be considered as hallucinations originating in his loneliness as it is hinted at the quite ambiguous end.
 
02-06-12, 1:33 AM

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Don't really like how its so hard to figure out if he was imagining her the entire time, or he just killed her. Or if he killed himself after killing her. Hate vague endings.

And yeah, whoever made this adaption is pretty unprofessional, throwing a bunch of crappy humor into the story, since it sounds like that's what he did. Story I give an 8/10 to. Adaption, 6/10.

On to the next.
 
04-14-12, 11:28 PM

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GAH, this is a bit difficult to really understand. But there are plenty of things to think about. @_@
 
04-29-12, 9:44 PM

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So at the end, he was her...
 
06-11-12, 3:11 PM

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So at the end, he was her...


More like she didn't actually exist.
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08-07-12, 10:54 AM

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I think it was brilliant.Loneliness does crazy shit to people
 
08-13-12, 1:41 PM

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Really disliked this arc, nothing bad but sure as fuck wasn't any good and the "comedy" felt out of place.
 
08-18-12, 5:14 PM

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Damn great episode! The ending was definitely unexpected o_O'

Still nice arc I think this as the last episode of this arc or is there more?
 
08-25-12, 6:34 PM

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Yo Tite Kubo is my mans...but I really don't think his style fits this genre. Stick to Bleach baby...oh wait.
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09-05-12, 12:10 PM

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so the bllossom made him crazy ? or just lonliness
 
09-25-12, 11:00 AM

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If you google the title of the work, there is a blogspot post from nihon distractions that I think talks about the author and the work. It seems like a pretty close adaptation with the exception of how to interpret the ending. I'm not really sure if it will clear anything up, but you can check it out for yourself if you want to see it anyway.
 
01-25-13, 8:47 PM

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I hated this one.
The woman whether an illusion or whatever you want her to be was despicable (and annoying) either way.

and the comedic parts were absolutely horrible and out of place.
 
03-01-13, 10:12 PM
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I think it's both - she's seen as a demon and is actually a demon. Either way, another mindfuck ending although I have to say though that these two episodes' comedic scenes were a bit fun to add into the mix.
 
06-13-13, 7:01 AM

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This was awesome. He was imagining the woman right? She was a construct of his imagination due to his intense feeling of solitude.

I cannot believe so many people have negative comments about this series. Then again, when you click on those people's panels they have stuff like One Piece as their favourites so it would figure that they don't like something like this.
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06-13-13, 7:28 AM

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Marzan said:

I cannot believe so many people have negative comments about this series. Then again, when you click on those people's panels they have stuff like One Piece as their favourites so it would figure that they don't like something like this.

Haha, that's the reality of anime fan demographic. No wonder creators rarely venture to create decent and mature anime like this one.
 
06-21-13, 10:11 AM

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That was a pretty boring arc until the last 3-4 minutes.
 
07-24-13, 4:29 AM

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Still fumbling around for thoughts in my head, but I think I've somewhat grasped what's going on. As the show suggests, I'll interpret these weird chain of events as a result of Shigemaru's loneliness along with what the show suggested in the earlier episode, as a fall to decadence and a rebirth into salvation.

I think this arc somewhat similar to the last couple episodes of "No Longer Human." Shigemaru, like Yozou, has deep-rooted problems in dealing with other human beings. We can see this through his willingness to seclude himself within the isolated mountains and his fear of cherry blossoms. Viewing cherry blossoms is traditionally a social event that one shares with company, but in his case, the blossoms become a physical trigger to remind him of his lack of human interaction and—at the same time—his longing to establish such connections.

One can only stay secluded for so long. Borrowing the mentioned phrase now, we see how he descends into “decadence” through his continued stay in the mountains, in which he begins to lose sense of reality, morality, and identity the more time he spends alone. I believe his conjurations of his “wives” are a development from this, in which he attempts to create imaginations to keep himself sane and functioning. With this in mind, we can partially explain the strange and exaggerated “humor” of the show. As a result of his degradation, reality begins to blur as we’re thrown into his messy mind.

As his time alone lengthens, he can only fall further down the shitcan. More and more of his imaginations (wives) pop up to keep him surrounded, even to the point of a talking boar making an appearance, but these are not enough for him. Eventually, I think what could be called as “salvation” makes her appearance in the form of Akiko. He unconditionally obeys her and falls madly in love with her, and she, in her duty as “salvation” tries to save him from seclusion and bring him to the people of the city.

By the end of episode 1, we’ve run into a somewhat strange scene, with him killing off his former wives. I think contextually, if we treat them as past imaginations, it makes sense for him to see them merely as old, boring attractions in comparison to his newest revelation. It wouldn’t seem that strange then for him to decide to get rid of them, as brutal as the scene may entail. In their replacement, he follows Akiko to the city of people, a subconscious attempt to save and rebuild himself.

But obviously, things don’t go well. He’s very awkward, very suspicious, “shy,” and strained with the people in the city. He can’t even hold a conversation with them, so he tries something else. He begins collecting heads for himself, playing with said heads in an effort to change himself. But he never reaches salvation completely. Eventually, his fascination with Akiko fades away, and he asks her to return back to seclusion with him.

As he makes his final trek back, the cherry blossoms return once again, triggering another reaction. He realizes the unspeakable horrors and the painful loneliness he suffers, understands that Akiko is a mere imagination, and sees herself and himself as a barbaric demon. Now this ending is quite interesting. Of course, what ends here is definitely no salvation for Shigemaru. He’s gone way off the deep-end, returning back to his secluded self, but at the very least, it’s fair to say that he’s definitely changed. At his last breath he’s able to realize his pitiful faults and horrific behaviors. He’s able to reestablish a sense of morality and bring himself back to reality. But in a sad twist of fate, he trades in his life to do so.
 
09-30-13, 10:27 PM

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Comedy and horror fundamentally don't belong, but it was still an interesting experiment.
 
10-08-13, 4:15 PM

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This was awesome. He was imagining the woman right? She was a construct of his imagination due to his intense feeling of solitude.

I cannot believe so many people have negative comments about this series. Then again, when you click on those people's panels they have stuff like One Piece as their favourites so it would figure that they don't like something like this.

Change One Piece to Naruto and I'll fully agree with you there ;)

Was a good arc although I enjoyed the first one more. Can't wait to see the next story :)
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11-17-13, 2:22 PM

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"If I have to choose between you and those heads, I choose you" DAMN SO ROMANTIC...

Hated these comedy moments. Like really, IT'S NOT FUNNY. And it ruins the atmosphere.

Fucked up, random, rushed, without any sense... Seriously,, this arc was just a huge WTF. It didn't make ANY sense.

Only last 2 or 3 minutes of this arc were interesting and actually made sense. Still, it's not enough.

And voice acting sucked. Big time. This bandit had a voice of Yo from previous arc and it didn't fit him at all.

I give this arc 3 or 4 heads out of 10. Just cause it had potential and good art & music.

(And seriously, is every Japanese literature classic so fucked up and creepy?)
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02-21-14, 5:29 PM

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The last scene is quite confusing. But overall, it's a good story.
 
02-28-14, 4:18 PM

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So people assume that Akiko is a demon, and that Shigemaru realised this when they were both under the cherry blossom trees, hence why Shigemaru strangled her to death.

I'd humor the possibility that Akiko isn't a demon, and that Shigemaru just went insane while under the trees and killed her because of his burst of insanity. Why at first did he see bloodied trees when he first seen the blossom tree (the year prior), and the second time freak out when he stood amongst the trees?

Just a concept that perhaps she isn't a demon.
 
04-26-14, 8:16 PM

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I don't even care about what happened. I'm just glad this shitty story is over.

Terrible people depicted doing terrible things. Why am I supposed to enjoy any of it?

On to the next arc, please.
 
06-21-14, 9:16 AM

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Definitely liked the first story more than this one.
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09-01-14, 8:54 PM

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This would have been much better if they had maintained the atmosphere and visuals from the first story. They were probably aiming for a more dynamic experience by changing the tone of this arc (and perhaps the remaining arcs as well), but it was a bad decision imo. I couldn't take this story seriously because of the lame comedy relief and the bright color palette.
 
10-25-14, 9:48 AM

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The girl was clearly not a demon. She didn't laugh and was busy dying when the demon illusion was laughing. That was just an illusion. Nothing really to argue.

Didn't get what they were trying to achieve by randomly showing earphones and cellphones and stuff, would be better if they made their aim clear. I cannot appreciate if i cannot understand.
 
11-21-14, 7:29 AM

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This arc reminded me of the Chinese idiom "色字头上一把刀" which basically means "Lust kills".

Lust or lecherous behavior often leads to one's downfall.

In this case, the strong bandit who owns a whole mountain, had many wives and live life without much worry, became a slave for beauty and eventually loses everything including his own life.

I am guessing that Akikol is indeed a demon. Probably a cherry blossom yokai.

That last scene was just an illusion and Shigemaru was actually strangling himself. Which explains why we see his corpse at the end and the reason for Akiko's head obsession.

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12-05-14, 10:38 PM

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The visuals during that song the demon was singing were really freaky...

I should have known that woman was a demon.

The ending seems to be left open to interpretation. To me it looks liked they both died though I wonder what happened to both the demon and Shigemaru's body...

I liked this episode more than the previous because I got used to the random comic relief scenes and the deformed faces but I still didn't like this story.

5.5/10

Can't wait to watch the story Kokoro though. I heard this is the best story in the series.
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12-10-14, 1:40 AM

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Wow both of them are crazy.

I think the first arc is better.

6/10 for this arc.
 
01-04-15, 12:10 AM

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Shrackner said:
Still fumbling around for thoughts in my head, but I think I've somewhat grasped what's going on. As the show suggests, I'll interpret these weird chain of events as a result of Shigemaru's loneliness along with what the show suggested in the earlier episode, as a fall to decadence and a rebirth into salvation.

I think this arc somewhat similar to the last couple episodes of "No Longer Human." Shigemaru, like Yozou, has deep-rooted problems in dealing with other human beings. We can see this through his willingness to seclude himself within the isolated mountains and his fear of cherry blossoms. Viewing cherry blossoms is traditionally a social event that one shares with company, but in his case, the blossoms become a physical trigger to remind him of his lack of human interaction and—at the same time—his longing to establish such connections.

One can only stay secluded for so long. Borrowing the mentioned phrase now, we see how he descends into “decadence” through his continued stay in the mountains, in which he begins to lose sense of reality, morality, and identity the more time he spends alone. I believe his conjurations of his “wives” are a development from this, in which he attempts to create imaginations to keep himself sane and functioning. With this in mind, we can partially explain the strange and exaggerated “humor” of the show. As a result of his degradation, reality begins to blur as we’re thrown into his messy mind.

As his time alone lengthens, he can only fall further down the shitcan. More and more of his imaginations (wives) pop up to keep him surrounded, even to the point of a talking boar making an appearance, but these are not enough for him. Eventually, I think what could be called as “salvation” makes her appearance in the form of Akiko. He unconditionally obeys her and falls madly in love with her, and she, in her duty as “salvation” tries to save him from seclusion and bring him to the people of the city.

By the end of episode 1, we’ve run into a somewhat strange scene, with him killing off his former wives. I think contextually, if we treat them as past imaginations, it makes sense for him to see them merely as old, boring attractions in comparison to his newest revelation. It wouldn’t seem that strange then for him to decide to get rid of them, as brutal as the scene may entail. In their replacement, he follows Akiko to the city of people, a subconscious attempt to save and rebuild himself.

But obviously, things don’t go well. He’s very awkward, very suspicious, “shy,” and strained with the people in the city. He can’t even hold a conversation with them, so he tries something else. He begins collecting heads for himself, playing with said heads in an effort to change himself. But he never reaches salvation completely. Eventually, his fascination with Akiko fades away, and he asks her to return back to seclusion with him.

As he makes his final trek back, the cherry blossoms return once again, triggering another reaction. He realizes the unspeakable horrors and the painful loneliness he suffers, understands that Akiko is a mere imagination, and sees herself and himself as a barbaric demon. Now this ending is quite interesting. Of course, what ends here is definitely no salvation for Shigemaru. He’s gone way off the deep-end, returning back to his secluded self, but at the very least, it’s fair to say that he’s definitely changed. At his last breath he’s able to realize his pitiful faults and horrific behaviors. He’s able to reestablish a sense of morality and bring himself back to reality. But in a sad twist of fate, he trades in his life to do so.


This is along the lines of what the story is actually about. The large majority of the posts here just don't get it at all. Read between the lines people. These are classics of Japanese literature; allegory, satire, and symbolism shouldn't be unexpected.
 
01-13-15, 9:32 PM

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http://moesucks.com/2009/11/16/in-the-woods-beneath-the-cherry-blossoms-in-full-bloom/

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Excellent web page that explains the episode and what it truly means amazingly well. Opened up my eyes! I thought this may help others as well!
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Shrackner said:
Still fumbling around for thoughts in my head, but I think I've somewhat grasped what's going on. As the show suggests, I'll interpret these weird chain of events as a result of Shigemaru's loneliness along with what the show suggested in the earlier episode, as a fall to decadence and a rebirth into salvation.

I think this arc somewhat similar to the last couple episodes of "No Longer Human." Shigemaru, like Yozou, has deep-rooted problems in dealing with other human beings. We can see this through his willingness to seclude himself within the isolated mountains and his fear of cherry blossoms. Viewing cherry blossoms is traditionally a social event that one shares with company, but in his case, the blossoms become a physical trigger to remind him of his lack of human interaction and—at the same time—his longing to establish such connections.

One can only stay secluded for so long. Borrowing the mentioned phrase now, we see how he descends into “decadence” through his continued stay in the mountains, in which he begins to lose sense of reality, morality, and identity the more time he spends alone. I believe his conjurations of his “wives” are a development from this, in which he attempts to create imaginations to keep himself sane and functioning. With this in mind, we can partially explain the strange and exaggerated “humor” of the show. As a result of his degradation, reality begins to blur as we’re thrown into his messy mind.

As his time alone lengthens, he can only fall further down the shitcan. More and more of his imaginations (wives) pop up to keep him surrounded, even to the point of a talking boar making an appearance, but these are not enough for him. Eventually, I think what could be called as “salvation” makes her appearance in the form of Akiko. He unconditionally obeys her and falls madly in love with her, and she, in her duty as “salvation” tries to save him from seclusion and bring him to the people of the city.

By the end of episode 1, we’ve run into a somewhat strange scene, with him killing off his former wives. I think contextually, if we treat them as past imaginations, it makes sense for him to see them merely as old, boring attractions in comparison to his newest revelation. It wouldn’t seem that strange then for him to decide to get rid of them, as brutal as the scene may entail. In their replacement, he follows Akiko to the city of people, a subconscious attempt to save and rebuild himself.

But obviously, things don’t go well. He’s very awkward, very suspicious, “shy,” and strained with the people in the city. He can’t even hold a conversation with them, so he tries something else. He begins collecting heads for himself, playing with said heads in an effort to change himself. But he never reaches salvation completely. Eventually, his fascination with Akiko fades away, and he asks her to return back to seclusion with him.

As he makes his final trek back, the cherry blossoms return once again, triggering another reaction. He realizes the unspeakable horrors and the painful loneliness he suffers, understands that Akiko is a mere imagination, and sees herself and himself as a barbaric demon. Now this ending is quite interesting. Of course, what ends here is definitely no salvation for Shigemaru. He’s gone way off the deep-end, returning back to his secluded self, but at the very least, it’s fair to say that he’s definitely changed. At his last breath he’s able to realize his pitiful faults and horrific behaviors. He’s able to reestablish a sense of morality and bring himself back to reality. But in a sad twist of fate, he trades in his life to do so.


Love the interpretation. Fully agree. Loved the first arc but the end of this one is just too good to ignore
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03-03-15, 8:21 AM

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Quite a weird story. Didn't like the comedy mixed in but I enjoyed it anyways,
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04-19-15, 2:05 PM

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This one was a bit confusing honestly. I'm gonna go read the novels after this.

Also, yes the comedy was very weird.
 
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Eww...I don't like the comedies in this story. Felt out of place and it kind of ruined the mood.

No Longer Human was amazing and should have been longer than having this crap that ruined my expectation for this series. I couldn't give a shit about a bandit guy who has everything yet throwing away everything for a beautiful woman that he fell in love with. 5/10 for this arc. Fuck this seriously.
 
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