gissellebatista said: Or maybe there isn't enough mature shows so they just watch whatever is available?Because let's be honest, even the more mature audience in anime prefer the not-so-mature shows. At least most of them. |
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AllenVonStein said: Dark_Chaos said: And what exactly do you consider Anime for "adults"? like berserk - Monster- cowboy bebop...... Are we going to act like if Cowboy Bebop is for adults when a lot of kids watched Bebop? |
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VitaminCaim said: gissellebatista said: Or maybe there isn't enough mature shows so they just watch whatever is available?Because let's be honest, even the more mature audience in anime prefer the not-so-mature shows. At least most of them. You have a point. But i personally think there's a pretty decent amount of mature shows nowadays, it's a matter of searching. The right amount of mature anime for the right amount of people out there who actually likes them. |
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| I would argue most animes nowadays are targeted toward more of an adult audience. Even many shonen/shoujo now often have content that one could argue is for an adult audience. In terms of theme, I think a strong portion of modern anime compete with "adult" shows in the west. |
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Chill_ said: dream_eater1012 said: I think they're talking about Japan. Not about anything in the west. Ah my bad. I'm talking in general People think cartoons are for kids and that is universal, japan is probably the place with the least people with that thinking though. |
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| There's plenty of anime for adults -- all those latenight moe/ecchi/loli/harem/high school/in-joke/slice-of-life anime are aimed at the core consumer base for anime, Japanese otaku ages ~18-35. They are aimed at adults, just at Japanese adults with different tastes, values, and life trajectories than many adult Western anime fans. SRSDeep/GrimDerp/2Mature4U stuff hasn't done too well financially ever since the Western fanbase largely stopped buying anime and decided to let Japanese otaku subsidize their anime consumption. Now everyone's all surprised that the anime that gets made skews towards Japanese otaku tastes. Chill_ said: But we're on MyAnimeList here, not MyWesternCartoonList, so the rules of Japanese society apply. And since all the "normals" over there still associate "otaku" with "some deranged serial killer from 27 years ago," you can be seriously ostracized and suffer diminished to nonexistent employment and romantic opportunities if the wrong people find out about your hobby.I don't think this is true as many western cartoons are watched by adults. |
ZalisNov 29, 2014 6:57 PM
on Lancehot said: I think it's more that Japan has the biggest population of manchildren rather than the least number of adults who think cartoons are for kids Well they make a huge amount of them, they broadcast them even in prime times, in almost every major channel. They have build an industry around them. And manga are really common, more common than any other form of comic anywhere in the world So it woudn't be weird for many people to not think that its for kids. |
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| There are less adult anime viewers than teenagers and companies only exist to make as much money as they can, which is why average moeshit/fanservice releases dominate every season |
| Is it honestly lacking? It seems a large portion of anime falls into 17+. |
| Is it honestly lacking? It seems a large portion of anime falls into 17+. |
| Like Zalis said, most anime are technically aimed at adults. |
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Zalis said: SRSDeep/GrimDerp/2Mature4U stuff hasn't done too well financially ever since the Western fanbase largely stopped buying anime and decided to let Japanese otaku subsidize their anime consumption. Now everyone's all surprised that the anime that gets made skews towards Japanese otaku tastes. Can you back up this claim? Or is it just a jab to the western fanbase? |
| Because most of them are catered towards little kids, angsty teens and manchildren. Thus the lack of maturity. |
| Because of the that shitty shonen demographic. |
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Kabi-sama said: Because of the that shitty shonen demographic. shonen > seinen. You know this to be true |
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Lancehot said: Black Lagoon is shit |
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| If we are talking about actual adults and not manchildren, with how stressful the Japanese society is most probably don't have time for anime and anime aimed at them don't sell well. There are plenty of manga for adults. Read them. |
| If by adult you mean non-pandering and mature themes it's because studios are only interested in what sells. |
ShrabsterNov 29, 2014 7:17 PM
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sullynathan said: Kabi-sama said: Because of the that shitty shonen demographic. shonen > seinen. You know this to be true Of course. The #1 anime on this site is a shounen after all. |
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RedRoseFring said: Exactly.sullynathan said: shonen > seinen. You know this to be true Of course. The #1 anime on this site is a shounen after all. |
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tsujimura-san said: There are plenty of manga for adults. Read them. |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
| Well, there's at least 5 this season, probably more that I'm not watching, I wouldn't call that lacking. |
| "Laws exist only for those who cannot live without clinging onto them." -Souske Aizen "Bleach"  |
| My guess is that Japanese adults prefer manga. I saw a lot of adults in a manga store when I was in Akihabara last year. |
Kruszer said: Well, there's at least 5 this season, probably more that I'm not watching, I wouldn't call that lacking. There are? |
| Most adults buy anime, they just happen to buy the really bad ones. So yeah, you don't fit in the demographic. |
mayukachan said: Kruszer said: Well, there's at least 5 this season, probably more that I'm not watching, I wouldn't call that lacking. There are? Yep, Akame ga Kill!, Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works, The Fruit of Grisaia, Parasyte: The Maxim, and Psycho Pass 2 all carry R ratings here. You're watching all of them.... |
KruszerNov 29, 2014 9:33 PM
| "Laws exist only for those who cannot live without clinging onto them." -Souske Aizen "Bleach" |
mayukachan said: Kruszer said: Well, there's at least 5 this season, probably more that I'm not watching, I wouldn't call that lacking. There are? I guess it depends on your definition, there are two seinen manga adaptations this season so that's kinda cool. |
| in japan the whole 'otaku' affiliation is generally seen as negative, and there is a lot of manga for adults, but still not very popular i guess. and in western society, there is an even smaller audience, so i guess an adult being seen watching something like that is viewed as negative.. yeah..? |
| because adults actually have to think about where their money goes. they choose actual needs over entertainment, unlike teens who use their parents' money however they want ie. drugs or in this case, buy anime merchandise |
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lagcrazy said: Haha, you couldn't be more wrong.because adults actually have to think about where their money goes. they choose actual needs over entertainment, unlike teens who use their parents' money however they want ie. drugs or in this case, buy anime merchandise |
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| late night anime shows that are the majority of anime being watch by none japanese people are aimed for adults, even K-ON is for adults believe it or not |
| Psssst I wanna tell you something... Adults don't watch cartoons |
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PurpleKaito said: Christ that is the largest physical manga selection I've ever seenMy guess is that Japanese adults prefer manga. I saw a lot of adults in a manga store when I was in Akihabara last year. |
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VitaminCaim said: You should see my aunt's room. Mangas, mangas everywhere.PurpleKaito said: Christ that is the largest physical manga selection I've ever seenMy guess is that Japanese adults prefer manga. I saw a lot of adults in a manga store when I was in Akihabara last year. |
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DrGeroCreation said: cross ange 10/10 foradultsDark_Chaos said: Mature themes focused on such as drug trafficking , crime (Cowboy Bebop), racism,child abuse (Monster).What makes them adult though? Is it the fact that they are dark? that they don't contain teenagers? We kind of need some criteria to go off of here, or else how would we know what is considered adult and what is not? |
| If you need recommendations, just ask around. But "adult" is a very vague category. There are shows that barely qualify, and shows that are quite excessive. Anyways, my working definition is, if it were a live action movie/TV series, would it be rated R (though there may be some exceptions)? |
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| Anime doesn't have to be dark to be mature. Why are people thinking that? It has to have more maturer themes instead of just blood, gore, violence, ecchi, grimdark and 'people die when they are killled'. |
Zalis said: There's plenty of anime for adults -- all those latenight moe/ecchi/loli/harem/high school/in-joke/slice-of-life anime are aimed at the core consumer base for anime, Japanese otaku ages ~18-35. They are aimed at adults, just at Japanese adults with different tastes, values, and life trajectories than many adult Western anime fans. SRSDeep/GrimDerp/2Mature4U stuff hasn't done too well financially ever since the Western fanbase largely stopped buying anime and decided to let Japanese otaku subsidize their anime consumption. Now everyone's all surprised that the anime that gets made skews towards Japanese otaku tastes. Chill_ said: But we're on MyAnimeList here, not MyWesternCartoonList, so the rules of Japanese society apply. And since all the "normals" over there still associate "otaku" with "some deranged serial killer from 27 years ago," you can be seriously ostracized and suffer diminished to nonexistent employment and romantic opportunities if the wrong people find out about your hobby.I don't think this is true as many western cartoons are watched by adults. |
| This OP is basically just saying "why is there a lack of anime catering to my tastes"? I don't see any lack of anime marketed "for adults". Most of them are just like many in this thread have pointed out. In fact, Death Note is considered shounen and was serialized in shounen jump, and it has some pretty mature themes in it which any adult can enjoy. Get off your high horse and open your eyes. |
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| there's plenty of hentai out there, ... oh wait... |
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| It's all about the money. Younger demographics have more time to spend on entertainment. That said, I find that there is more than enough great mature anime. |
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