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Nov 25, 2014 2:36 AM

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Kineta said:

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i like to see Xinil program a script to search for duplicate news story
We have this as well, it's the search function.


thats not exactly automated process

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and there is just too much red tape, i will not be surprise if this is the reason why news moderators quit so early
What gives you this impression?

I don't really understand what you're trying to get at as your suggestions are almost parallel to the current set-up – aside from eliminating the position all together.


i get that impression because the news moderators are quitting early like symbv so the job is too much work

and yes im suggesting to remove the news moderator position and let users submit news freely or with little restrictions and formalities (this is what i mean about decreasing red tape i mean even this has too much regulations http://myanimelist.net/panel.php?go=news), much of the news is being shown on dedicated anime news site like AnimeNewsNetwork anyway
Nov 25, 2014 2:37 AM
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welp, can't read japanese, there goes me. weeeee. i really wanted to be a mod for a month and just fob off my duties.
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Nov 25, 2014 2:42 AM

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Good luck to all who apply :) Hope to see some new faces on the front page~
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Nov 25, 2014 3:09 AM
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dity said:
welp, can't read japanese, there goes me. weeeee. i really wanted to be a mod for a month and just fob off my duties.

In all seriousness though, just to note: You don't have to be able to read Japanese to apply. Just in case anyone else had the same impression.


j0x said:
i get that impression because the news moderators are quitting early like symbv so the job is too much work
symbv was a news moderator for approximately a year or so, if I remember correctly. A year is actually not an abnormally short length of time. Look at how quickly our forum moderator team downsized in six months, for example – and I don't think you're going to suggest we shouldn't have forum mods, right?

All moderator positions are volunteer positions in an online community. Most people leave because they have other, more important commitments in real life that take time out of their schedules and they can't find the time to help out any longer.

To note, our News Team also has some of our oldest staff members: Snow and Naru are coming up on their 4 year anniversaries very soon.

j0x said:
and yes im suggesting to remove the news moderator position and let users submit news freely or with little restrictions and formalities (this is what i mean about decreasing red tape i mean even this has too much regulations http://myanimelist.net/panel.php?go=news), much of the news is being shown on dedicated anime news site like AnimeNewsNetwork anyway
By this logic, we should eliminate the Anime/Manga DBs and Moderators because AniDB and MU are sites already dedicated to collecting this information. We can remove the forum, too, since AnimeSuki already exists. Just because ANN is a site dedicated to news doesn't mean that MAL can't have its own news as well. It's not like our news is a copy/paste of theirs either.

I understand that you're trying to help, j0x, and I appreciate suggestions for improvement. However, I think Subpyro's post already explained why this is a bad idea.
Nov 25, 2014 3:25 AM

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gl dudes
Nov 25, 2014 3:36 AM

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@Kineta

heh i rest my case then

and good luck to the applicants
Nov 25, 2014 4:01 AM

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If I just had more time, meh.Well, goodluck to people who apply, and hopefully there are some of them who won't drop position after month because they became bored with it or w/e.
Nov 25, 2014 5:17 AM

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Kineta said:
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then just assign forum moderators to approve a thread before it will be shown in public
The forum moderators already have more than enough to do.

I'm not the maintainer of the staff or anything so I probably shouldn't try to sound smart here, but I believe there's more to why the news board is not meant to be taken care of by forum moderators other than their workload already being big enough. As said in my previous post, the news board is a section on Mal that tends to keep the quality of the news relatively high. For that, user qualities and specialities are necessary that are different to those of a forum moderator.

While knowing the Japanese language is not a necessity for every news moderator (some are required), taking time to check the validity of the user news submitions is a must. Furthermore, there are different guidelines set to be followed, which distinct the two teams more than it might seem. While forum mods can be seen as those that enforce the guidelines in connection to user relations and activity, news mods could better be compared to the database mods. They take care of statistics and facts, as well as list them later on. Next to that, they are up to date with every necessary external news, while forum mods can be limited to the Mal's current forums only. In that aspect, news mods could be seen as a fusion of technical and community mods, while database mods are mainly technical (PMs and database sub-forum excluded) and forum mods are community-focused.

Including all that and more, if we want to keep that quality and validity bar high when it comes to the news and its respective board, separate moderating team is needed.
Nov 25, 2014 6:14 AM
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This team seems a little understaffed, so I'm relieved to hear about this. I'd definitely apply if I could. Good luck to everyone involved!
Nov 25, 2014 6:22 AM

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Hmmmm....sounds lovely, but school has me backed up, unfortunately. Would like to apply, though Q-Q

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Nov 25, 2014 7:48 AM
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Minna, wish you all the best.
Nov 25, 2014 8:50 AM

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Good luck. Let's see who can work well with me and the rest of still existing news team.
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Nov 25, 2014 9:04 AM

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Good luck to those who apply.
Nov 25, 2014 9:59 AM

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goodluck to people who have extra free time.

Nov 25, 2014 12:09 PM
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Just applied. If anyone else is intrested try it out and just give yourself a new expreience.
Nov 25, 2014 12:37 PM
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Good luck to everyone who applies.

For those who question why news mods are needed, see what Subpyro said. A very good explanation.
Nov 25, 2014 8:21 PM

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I didn't realize users could submit news until I read this thread. It's nice to learn something new.

Good luck to the applicants.

Edit: For Kineta~

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Nov 25, 2014 8:40 PM

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I would undoubtedly apply, but I'm just not sure if I could shave some extra time for it --- what with college and all. Good luck to those applying though.
Nov 26, 2014 1:04 PM
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Aww over 17 T_T
Anyway, good luck applicants !
Nov 26, 2014 5:43 PM

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GL to all :)
Nov 26, 2014 8:45 PM

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Aww over 17 T_T

Although 17 years of age does seem like a reasonable mark, don't let it bother you too much. Honestly, if you fit the other criteria listed, one should still apply. It is simply there to prevent possible applications that hold no effort in their creation from being sent in, which is usually done by the age group below 17. Moreover, to fit the other criteria listed, a user indeed is usually at least 17.

However, if you feel like your English and/or Japanese is/are top-notch, you are active, dedicated, frequent various external news websites (preferably multiple of them), as well as find a spark in formatting and delivering the news content in the forum board, you should feel no restriction from applying. If you believe you've got what it takes to be a good news moderator, go and write that.

A word of advice, there are more or less no limits of what points you can touch in your application. One does not have to strictly keep to the ones listed in the OP alone, but share whatever they find necessary alongside them. So, if one (or two) of the criteria points listed is off, make sure to explain why everything else covers the part, still making you the optimal choice. The only thing is that being on-topic is preferred... unless there are cats. There can never be too much cats.
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Nov 26, 2014 9:19 PM

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I got a lot of free time, maybe I'll try. Wish me luck.

Nov 26, 2014 11:13 PM

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This one is a tough position in my opinion- waiting for the latest news and publishing it at a relevant time, and obviously validating them? It's tough work- good luck for the candidates!
Nov 26, 2014 11:40 PM

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I'm shooting. I have a passion for this anyways and its my career choice.
Nov 27, 2014 1:51 AM
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I've done the same job for a huge gaming community about a year ago, it's a really stressful and time consuming thing to do, which sadly often doesn't get as much attention as it deserves, so kudos to anyone willing to sacrifice their spare time for bringing us high quality news articles. Good luck to all you applicants. :)
Nov 27, 2014 10:49 AM

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Goodluck minna!
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Nov 27, 2014 11:30 AM

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Good luck to everyone!
Nov 27, 2014 2:58 PM

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Good luck everyone!
Nov 27, 2014 3:37 PM

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Kineta said:
Anyone who cannot follow these simple instructions will owe Kineta a kitty gif.

As this position is absolutely not for me I'm only here to offer a kitty gif to Kineta-sama <3
Nov 27, 2014 11:47 PM

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And may the odds be ever in your favor 👍
Nov 29, 2014 8:53 PM
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I-I'll join! I'm in it to win it! Please accept me! ^^
Nov 29, 2014 9:01 PM

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Good luck to those who apply! Break a leg.
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Nov 30, 2014 5:10 AM
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Wow, I've never known a forum to request specified moderators. That's interesting. Good luck to everyone who applies.
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Nov 30, 2014 6:34 AM

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@j0x: This system actually already exists. Every user can submit a news story here. The news moderators are reviewing these news submissions and then approving or denying them. You can find this "submit news" link
- in the news board instead of the "create new topic" link
- in the news overview (Industry --> News) at the top of the page
- in the news discussion rules

Hopefully some people that didn't know about this get now motivated to help the news team by submitting more news :)

Also, good luck to everyone who is applying to the news moderator position!


Thanks for the reminder and the spirited debate!
*will have had been motivated*
Nov 30, 2014 10:53 AM

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Kineta said:
Anyone who cannot follow these simple instructions will owe Kineta a kitty gif.

Kitty gif?? Where?
Nov 30, 2014 4:04 PM
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I understand all the rules and I was in past a moderator and I'm owner of one small forum :)
Dec 2, 2014 9:16 AM

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Wow I'm just the right age 17 I love posting news and I have everyday free but I can't read Japanese and just suck at doing all the stuff that is needed here well either way goodluck to the people who are applying.
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Wow I'm just the right age 17 I love posting news and I have everyday free but I can't read Japanese and just suck at doing all the stuff that is needed here well either way goodluck to the people who are applying.
Kineta said:
just to note: You don't have to be able to read Japanese to apply. Just in case anyone else had the same impression.

Don't let something like some japanese stop you

plus google sometimes let's you translate pages anyway
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JOAOAA said:
Carefree859 said:
Wow I'm just the right age 17 I love posting news and I have everyday free but I can't read Japanese and just suck at doing all the stuff that is needed here well either way goodluck to the people who are applying.
Kineta said:
just to note: You don't have to be able to read Japanese to apply. Just in case anyone else had the same impression.

Don't let something like some japanese stop you

plus google sometimes let's you translate pages anyway


Well, if he already does not have the intention to go for it, and think he sucks at it, I don't really see why he would try to go for it.

Indeed, good luck to everyone who wish to apply. My knowledge of anime related news and websites is somewhat limited, though I assume I could take the time to look into that. I assume I could be good at proofreading and validating posts, but this is the extent of my current skills.
Dec 2, 2014 7:29 PM

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Sent in my application.

Stopped by to thank anyone who may read it and also to offer kudos to the current news team for grinding away despite being short-staffed. I know how that goes. Here's hoping I'm chosen to help lend a hand!

Good luck to all the fellow candidates. :)

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if gonna like to saying good grammar..?
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Dec 9, 2014 1:12 AM

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Sent my Application!
Just realized; IM LATE!!!!! DAMN

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Dec 9, 2014 11:42 AM
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When's the announcement for the new staff excited :)
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I've been busy in Santa's Workshop, so this message is a little late, but...

Applications are Closed.

Everyone who sent me an application should have received a PM in response. If you did not receive a reply from me, please PM immediately.

Applicants who successfully pass the first round will undergo a second testing round, so non-applicants can expect the announcement in a few weeks time (considering holidays as well).

Also, a big thank you for all the kitty gifs :) It really brightened my day to see them posted here and they will wind up on my profile soon~
Dec 10, 2014 12:03 PM
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Does the PM say "Thanks for your application"?
Or was there a new PM?
Dec 10, 2014 12:58 PM

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Does the PM say "Thanks for your application"?
Or was there a new PM?

The PM was supposed to stand as a confirmation of receiving the application, nothing more. Therefore, yeah, a message containing "Thanks for your application" sounds like the intended thing.
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pokeguy123 said:
Does the PM say "Thanks for your application"?
Or was there a new PM?

The PM was supposed to stand as a confirmation of receiving the application, nothing more. Therefore, yeah, a message containing "Thanks for your application" sounds like the intended thing.

Ok Thanks
Dec 11, 2014 9:23 AM

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Kineta said:
I've been busy in Santa's Workshop, so this message is a little late, but...

Applications are Closed.

Everyone who sent me an application should have received a PM in response. If you did not receive a reply from me, please PM immediately.

Applicants who successfully pass the first round will undergo a second testing round, so non-applicants can expect the announcement in a few weeks time (considering holidays as well).

Also, a big thank you for all the kitty gifs :) It really brightened my day to see them posted here and they will wind up on my profile soon~


Just curious, but what's the time window then for people knowing whether or not they've made it to the second round?

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Sent my Application!
Just realized; IM LATE!!!!! DAMN


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I sent in my application to become a kitty gif.
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