I don't understand Haruhi ...
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11-10-09, 5:20 PM
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To be clear I'm taking about THIS anime, I don't hate the anime. In fact, I found it mildly enjoyable. Which is why all the hype around it bugs me. Usually, even if I don't like something I can kinda see why others would be head-over-hells over it. But with Haruhi, ... no, I just don't get it. -chronodekar PS - I do NOT want to start a flame war here. I don't hate Haruhi. I just don't get what all the hype is about.... |
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11-14-09, 5:29 PM
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I cannot speak for everyone but for me the appeal of this anime are the characters and the unique style of the way the story is told. I enjoyed Haruhi's whole persona of being straight forward and decisive, some would say bossy but I say strong-willed. Compared to the animes I've watched it is a nice change of pace from the helpless/indecisive types I've seen. And yet she wasn't so overpowering as to not be reigned (reined?) in once in a while by Kyon when she took things too far. The narration style of basically the main character narrating for the other main character is unique, at least from what I've seen. I found it to be very entertaining. I enjoyed all of the other characters too but I particularly enjoyed Haruhi and Kyon for the reasons I mentioned above. |
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11-14-09, 7:01 PM
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I guess then, I wasn't meant to understand it. Oh, well. On with the next show then ! -chronodekar |
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11-23-09, 3:25 AM
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I'm sorry but I will have to say that this show was bad..very bad. First of all..it doesn't make sense..the plot is beyond retarded..and the characters are bleghh.. Did it even have an ending? ![]() |
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11-23-09, 5:04 PM
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Thank Heavens rebekah !! I was beginning to think that I was the only guy who didn't get this show. And yes, I agree, it doesn't seem to have an ending. For that matter, was there even a plot to begin with ? I can't even classify this one as romance either.... -chronodekar |
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11-23-09, 6:38 PM
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i do like the show, but its not as good as its made out to be IMO |
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11-23-09, 9:52 PM
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litharia said: i do like the show, but its not as good as its made out to be IMO Absolutely right ! The obsession some people have with it is beyond my levels of understanding... -chronodekar |
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11-26-09, 1:35 AM
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a) Well directed. Incredibly well directed. It is very rare that anime shows any kind of good direction, so even better yet in comparison. b) You can't find many shows with better animation. c) Characters and plot are very fresh, especially in how they simultaneously embrace and subvert tropes, look at how they tick. For one thing among many, pseudo-Noir narration in a schoolyard animu, o ho ho. d) Incredibly simple yet powerful basic concept, whose potential is not wasted. Those would be the core reasons Haruhi's Depression was amazing. But hey, with Code Geass, F/SN, After Story and the first FMA adaption in your favourites, it is obvious this anime is certainly not for you. Would be quite surprised if you had liked it. rebekah said: Did it even have an ending? what do you mean, "did it have an ending"? There have barely been more overdramatic endings. Kiss the girl to save the world from absolute metaphysical annihilation. That's rather climactic right there. How is the world ruled and how do wars start? Diplomats tell lies to journalists and then believe what they read. | Report rules abuse | Your Panel | Clubs | Messages | Forum | Recent <img src="http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4672/stuhlbarg.png" /> |
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11-26-09, 2:11 AM
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Kaiserpingvin said: a) Well directed. Incredibly well directed. It is very rare that anime shows any kind of good direction, so even better yet in comparison. b) You can't find many shows with better animation. c) Characters and plot are very fresh, especially in how they simultaneously embrace and subvert tropes, look at how they tick. For one thing among many, pseudo-Noir narration in a schoolyard animu, o ho ho. d) Incredibly simple yet powerful basic concept, whose potential is not wasted. Those would be the core reasons Haruhi's Depression was amazing. But hey, with Code Geass, F/SN, After Story and the first FMA adaption in your favourites, it is obvious this anime is certainly not for you. Would be quite surprised if you had liked it. rebekah said: Did it even have an ending? what do you mean, "did it have an ending"? There have barely been more overdramatic endings. Kiss the girl to save the world from absolute metaphysical annihilation. That's rather climactic right there. rebekah is probably talking about "Someday in the rain" or whatever episode 14 was called. Otherwise I agree with you, except for the After Story part. I hate it when people take a dig at that show for no good reason. She said, "Don't make others suffer for your personal hatred." |
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11-26-09, 2:16 AM
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insan3soldiern said: rebekah is probably talking about "Someday in the rain" or whatever episode 14 was called. Otherwise I agree with you, except for the After Story part. I hate it when people take a dig at that show for no good reason. That makes sense, though that is quite like saying Pulp Fiction did not have a good ending after having viewed it chronologically. I did not take a dig at it; it is merely that someone who likes all those shows, likely has a very different æsthetical ideals than I (or other people who like Haruhi primarily for the reasons I outlined) do, and thus is likely to find it bad. And neither is, of course, superior, being as it is taste. How is the world ruled and how do wars start? Diplomats tell lies to journalists and then believe what they read. | Report rules abuse | Your Panel | Clubs | Messages | Forum | Recent <img src="http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4672/stuhlbarg.png" /> |
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11-26-09, 2:22 AM
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Kaiserpingvin said: insan3soldiern said: rebekah is probably talking about "Someday in the rain" or whatever episode 14 was called. Otherwise I agree with you, except for the After Story part. I hate it when people take a dig at that show for no good reason. That makes sense, though that is quite like saying Pulp Fiction did not have a good ending after having viewed it chronologically. I did not take a dig at it; it is merely that someone who likes all those shows, likely has a very different æsthetical ideals than I (or other people who like Haruhi primarily for the reasons I outlined) do, and thus is likely to find it bad. And neither is, of course, superior, being as it is taste. The thing is Pulp Fiction was never released chronologically, at least to my knowledge. I get what your saying though and, hell, I actually like the show better chronologically. Gives it more of the slice of life with sci fi elements vibe instead of the vice versa that I feel the broadcast order is. And my bad for misunderstanding what you meant about After Story. God bless the internet. She said, "Don't make others suffer for your personal hatred." |
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11-26-09, 2:27 AM
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HARUHI WAS AMAZING. WHY? Because somebody said it was, as someone always does with a show, and everybody jumped on the bandwagon without knowing why. LEGENDOFTHEGALACTICHEROESLEGENDOFTHEGALACTI LEGENDOFTHEGALACTICHEROESLEGENDOFTHEGALACTI LEGENDOFTHEGALACTICHEROESLEGENDOFTHEGALACTI |
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11-26-09, 2:52 AM
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Aeiou said: HARUHI WAS AMAZING. WHY? Because somebody said it was, as someone always does with a show, and everybody jumped on the bandwagon without knowing why. No, some of us know why we like the show. I like it because of the characters, specifically Haruhi herself, the fact that it isn't afraid of taking chances like the Endless Eight and out of order nature of the episodes, the parodies, and the story. I'm not going to deny that there aren't people that just like it because it's popular, though. Nearly every show has it's mindless fans. She said, "Don't make others suffer for your personal hatred." |
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11-26-09, 6:42 AM
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It was these things that got /me/ into it: -great art and animation (50%) -likeable characters (20%) -intriguing slice-of-life/mystery storyline (10%) -the internet hype (20%) |
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12-01-09, 3:59 AM
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Kaiserpingvin said: Cowboy Bebop, probably a hell of a lot more but you know them as do I.a) Well directed. Incredibly well directed. It is very rare that anime shows any kind of good direction, so even better yet in comparison. b) You can't find many shows with better animation. Lots of 90's shows actually. Maybe 80's as well. Despite the fact that only the artwork is "better" then many other shows. It's basically KyoAni putting bloom everywhere like the did with Air, Kanon and Clannad + bug eyes.c) Characters and plot are very fresh, especially in how they simultaneously embrace and subvert tropes, look at how they tick. For one thing among many, pseudo-Noir narration in a schoolyard animu, o ho ho. Those moments actually feel forced.d) Incredibly simple yet powerful basic concept, whose potential is not wasted. ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHTBut hey, with Code Geass, F/SN, After Story and the first FMA adaption in your favourites, it is obvious this anime is certainly not for you. Would be quite surprised if you had liked it. Hilariously enough your list has some of the best anime series in it. |
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12-01-09, 9:48 AM
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Metroid said: What are you trying to say? That because haruhi isn't the best-directed show, it is badly directed? (Nevermind that Cowboy Bebop is not a very good example of better directing, since it's quite trite and uninspired.)Cowboy Bebop, probably a hell of a lot more but you know them as do I. Metroid said: b) You can't find many shows with better animation. Lots of 90's shows actually. Maybe 80's as well. Despite the fact that only the artwork is "better" then many other shows. It's basically KyoAni putting bloom everywhere like the did with Air, Kanon and Clannad + bug eyes.I don't think the artwork is very special. Nor is it animation. The framerate and attention to detail is both of these. Metroid said: Those moments actually feel forced. Which moments, herr imprecise? :c Metroid said: ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHT Do you see which subforum this is? Yes? Did that season have Season Eight? No? Well, then Endless Eight is quite irrelevant. Metroid said: Hilariously enough your list has some of the best anime series in it. Yeah, nothing beats insultingly bad plot combined with subpar direction! How is the world ruled and how do wars start? Diplomats tell lies to journalists and then believe what they read. | Report rules abuse | Your Panel | Clubs | Messages | Forum | Recent <img src="http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4672/stuhlbarg.png" /> |
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12-01-09, 12:12 PM
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Kaiserpingvin said: Yes. Pretty much. Metroid said: What are you trying to say? That because haruhi isn't the best-directed show, it is badly directed?Cowboy Bebop, probably a hell of a lot more but you know them as do I. Metroid said: b) You can't find many shows with better animation. Lots of 90's shows actually. Maybe 80's as well. Despite the fact that only the artwork is "better" then many other shows. It's basically KyoAni putting bloom everywhere like the did with Air, Kanon and Clannad + bug eyes.I don't think the artwork is very special. Nor is it animation. The framerate and attention to detail is both of these. Which moments, herr imprecise? :c Pretty much every "depressing" moment Haruhi has. It's like here have some drama let's ram it down your throat so that it seems there's some character development.Do you see which subforum this is? Yes? Did that season have Season Eight? No? Well, then Endless Eight is quite irrelevant. I don't really care for I am deliciously butthurt about endless eight.Yeah, nothing beats insultingly bad plot combined with subpar direction! Something you do, as well. :x |
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12-01-09, 1:57 PM
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Metroid said: Kaiserpingvin said: Yes. Pretty much. Metroid said: What are you trying to say? That because haruhi isn't the best-directed show, it is badly directed?Cowboy Bebop, probably a hell of a lot more but you know them as do I. Good, that's an informal fallacy. Enjoy y And that means that all anime are ill directed except for Legend of the Galactic Heroes, that quite thins the concept out. Metroid said: Wait, now you are saying Haruhi isn't that well animated? No. I am saying that artwork is not animation. And that the framerate and attention to detail are part of the animation, and that those are very good. Metroid said: Pretty much every "depressing" moment Haruhi has. It's like here have some drama let's ram it down your throat so that it seems there's some character development. Says the man who just praised FSN, FMA, After Story and CODE GEASS. ...Your criteria are officially broken. Metroid said: I don't really care for I am deliciously butthurt about endless eight. That is violently silly. Basically, you do not care about my argument - to the best I at all create one of those in these throwaway sentences - and instead criticise an argument which I have not made, namely that Endless Eight, or anything from the second season, was masterful? Do so, I won't rebut you, because I cannot rebut what I would in essence agree with. Metroid said: Yeah, nothing beats insultingly bad plot combined with subpar direction! Something you do, as well. :xWhat. How is the world ruled and how do wars start? Diplomats tell lies to journalists and then believe what they read. | Report rules abuse | Your Panel | Clubs | Messages | Forum | Recent <img src="http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4672/stuhlbarg.png" /> |
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12-01-09, 2:03 PM
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The whole premise of Haruhi is pure nightmare fuel. A narcissistic sociopathic girl forces a random guy to do her bidding. Then give her the power to unmake the universe if she get's upset. And one of the things most likely to upset her is if he has a relationship with the girl he likes even though she is not in one with her. This is a serious post. You're not allowed to delete it. |




