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Oct 4, 2014 1:38 PM
#1
We have one for casual discussion which is often filled with trolls and immaturity. I suggests we have a section purely for serious discussion. Sometimes when you post a serious topic on casual discussion you are filled with 90% troll posts. Heavy moderation for this section is probably required. |
Oct 4, 2014 1:39 PM
#2
It would probably take too much effort from the mods. |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
Oct 4, 2014 1:41 PM
#3
just make a club and only invite those you want in it it's too much work for the mods |
Mar 21, 2015 8:05 AM
#4
Necroing this thread. We are in heavy need of such a board, it is impossible to have a serious discussion about anything that isn't related to a different board such as Media, Gaming or Current Events, due to the frequency of chatting, spam, trolling and shitpost general on the Casual Discussion board. I disagree that it would need to be heavily moderated, I mean, look at the current events board. I believe forum members are generally responsible enough to generally stay on topic in a board with heavy-listed rules about staying on topic and remaining serious. This is necessary. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 21, 2015 8:06 AM
#5
Mar 21, 2015 8:10 AM
#7
Mar 21, 2015 8:11 AM
#8
Who's going to decide what's serious and what not? |
Mar 21, 2015 8:16 AM
#9
TyraMisoux said: Who's going to decide what's serious and what not? Probably the person who posts it by choosing whether to post it in a serious board or in a casual one. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 21, 2015 8:56 AM
#10
This is why the spam board should come back. It detained and attracted all the shitposters, trolls and derailers of sorts. Its the same logic of having the big 3 discussion/general advice thread-to detain. If moderation is not the answer then fixing the forum board is the next answer. Not sure if I'm being clear. |
Mar 21, 2015 9:02 AM
#11
xEmptiness said: It was actually your club I was referring to. JD2411 said: just make a club and only invite those you want in it it's too much work for the mods I've tried this with Danebenreden. It's very difficult to maintain a healthy population of high quality posters. I agree with the suggestion and even I'm sick of all the stupid threads in CD. The board's turned into a circlejerk full of spamming, shitposting and attention whoring. The problem is, even if a new board is made what's stopping them from ruining that as well? It would take a lot of moderation and considering the moderators are more or less MIA I can't see it happening in the near future. |
Mar 21, 2015 10:08 AM
#13
JD2411 said: xEmptiness said: It was actually your club I was referring to. JD2411 said: just make a club and only invite those you want in it it's too much work for the mods I've tried this with Danebenreden. It's very difficult to maintain a healthy population of high quality posters. I agree with the suggestion and even I'm sick of all the stupid threads in CD. The board's turned into a circlejerk full of spamming, shitposting and attention whoring. The problem is, even if a new board is made what's stopping them from ruining that as well? It would take a lot of moderation and considering the moderators are more or less MIA I can't see it happening in the near future. The only option left that I can think of would be pre-moderation. But then again, you'd need active mods for that purpose... :/ |
Mar 21, 2015 11:46 AM
#14
Make it a no tolerance forum and just ban the fuckers that troll it. |
Mar 21, 2015 4:55 PM
#15
JD2411 said: xEmptiness said: It was actually your club I was referring to. JD2411 said: just make a club and only invite those you want in it it's too much work for the mods I've tried this with Danebenreden. It's very difficult to maintain a healthy population of high quality posters. I agree with the suggestion and even I'm sick of all the stupid threads in CD. The board's turned into a circlejerk full of spamming, shitposting and attention whoring. The problem is, even if a new board is made what's stopping them from ruining that as well? It would take a lot of moderation and considering the moderators are more or less MIA I can't see it happening in the near future. If you agree with the suggestion then stop saying that you think it will be hard to moderate. Freakin', "This is my argument, and here is the evidence against it". People, jeez. I can tell that most MAL members are scared to death of bans, so simply having a sticky'd rules post that says very clearly that you will be banned for spamming or irrelevant conversation on a serious discussion board would probably take care of a lot of these issues. On top of that, look at non-CD forums. They generally operate fine. I would imagine serious discussion would be more similar to a non-CD forum than like a second CD. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 22, 2015 5:58 AM
#16
xEmptiness said: Space-Wizard said: If you agree with the suggestion then stop saying that you think it will be hard to moderate. Doesn't matter if you agree or disagree, things have to be seen from both perspectives and pros and cons must both be considered seriously. You misinterpreted the point of my post. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 22, 2015 6:23 AM
#17
I think Space-Wizard is right, if the rules were laid out beforehand and the mod's made a stern showing upon bringing the board up, spam/trolling would die down rather quickly. Even now, casual discussion requires more attention than the other forums. Right now 'serious' discussion can fit into really two places. Current events, in which case it has to be applicable to current events obviously and clubs, which is not an optimal solution. They really have no place in casual discussion due to how quickly posts fall off the first page, the prevalence of spam, and other problems. I really don't see why implementing this would be an issue, considering the forums were changed before, for the 'users' benefit. |
Mar 22, 2015 6:42 AM
#18
Mar 22, 2015 8:20 AM
#19
xEmptiness said: I didn't. I just think that it doesn't work like that, the two more likely scenarios are: 1) People spam anyway, because there is not a single board on MAL not infested with low quality comments. It's not unreasonable to think this one would be the same. 2) The subforum dies and people go back to the other ones. It's very difficult to maintain healthy activity if you don't allow for shitposting. CD is still alive because a few users keep cycling the same threads over and over, and people just shitpost in them. Not many users can consistently throw out high level discussions, and out of those, many don't share enough interests to keep most topics going. Spam is pretty rare on board like games, media and current events. Also, I doubt a serious discussion board would just "die". If it's there, people are going to use it. I don't think you're being realistic. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 22, 2015 9:44 AM
#20
What if nobody else wants to discuss what I see as "serious discussion"? What if MY serious discussion isn't serious for YOU? How would you choose what can and what cannot be discussed within this forum section? I can create a thread about feminism in anime, while you can create one about the similarities between Paprika and The Inception. Which is "serious" or "on-topic" to the board? Even if it works out for the first days, with shitposters getting banned, do we have enough users interested in engaging on serious discussions? If it's just a couple of users daily posting on this board, wouldn't it be the same than creating a Club for it? We already can engage on serious discussions about anime on their respective sub-board, but unless it's an overly popular series, you will get no response (i.e: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?animeid=8915, http://myanimelist.net/forum/?animeid=16782, http://myanimelist.net/forum/?animeid=433) how will this be any different? Ultimately, how do you stop things from going off-topic? With mods? The same mods who can't properly moderate the current forums? A lot of questions and ifs for a suggestion. Honestly, the only place where people give meaningful replies on this entire forum is this suggestion board. |
Mar 22, 2015 11:36 AM
#21
xEmptiness said: Space-Wizard said: Spam is pretty rare on board like games, media and current events. Also, I doubt a serious discussion board would just "die". If it's there, people are going to use it. I don't think you're being realistic. How many serious discussions or deep discussions do you see on CD? One every 2 months? Of those threads, how many contain more than 75% meaningful content? Zero, I don't think I've ever seen a thread like that. Attempting to have a serious discussion on CD doesn't really have anything to do with what I just said, and if anything the impossibility of such an event is why this thread was made in the first place and why it was necro'd. xbobx said: What if nobody else wants to discuss what I see as "serious discussion"? What if MY serious discussion isn't serious for YOU? then it probably won't be responded to, like other thread topics on other boards people don't want to discuss, that's how forums work. xbobx said: How would you choose what can and what cannot be discussed within this forum section? I can create a thread about feminism in anime, while you can create one about the similarities between Paprika and The Inception. Which is "serious" or "on-topic" to the board? I seriously doubt people would abuse it that much, I think saying that it's going to be abused is mostly pointless fear-mongering. I would expect a hefty amount of shitposting the first couple of days it exists simply because people would want to post on the new board, but after that settles down it would probably become more similar to every single other serious discussion board on every single other forum where people generally have serious discussions. xbobx said: Even if it works out for the first days, with shitposters getting banned, do we have enough users interested in engaging on serious discussions? Definitely, and I don't think banning shitposters on the first few days is even necessary, though it wouldn't really be harmful either now would it. I think people think very little of the people of MAL, and I don't really see why, because aside from CD and maybe the anime board sometimes, everyone generally behaves themselves and stays on topic. xbobx said: If it's just a couple of users daily posting on this board, wouldn't it be the same than creating a Club for it? I don't see it being occupied by a couple of users as remotely realistic, there are definitely many people interested in using such a board, this thread alone has more than a couple of daily users who are interested. On top of that, look at how busy the music & entertainment board is, only six threads have had responses so far today, but I would still consider it a necessary and good board. xbobx said: We already can engage on serious discussions about anime on their respective sub-board, but unless it's an overly popular series, you will get no response (i.e: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?animeid=8915, http://myanimelist.net/forum/?animeid=16782, http://myanimelist.net/forum/?animeid=433) how will this be any different? Because I don't think a serious discussion board would be 600 separate sub-boards about different serious discussion topics, like "spanish history" board, and "australian plant natural selection" board. I think it would just be "serious discussions" board, and I can't see why it would even be a sub-board. There are specific anime boards, and the there's "Anime discussion", which is the second busiest forum on the site, which is what I would expect a Serious discussion board to be more similar to. xbobx said: Ultimately, how do you stop things from going off-topic? With mods? The same mods who can't properly moderate the current forums? the same way people don't go off topic on boards like music & entertainment and gaming. People just don't because they're not interested in it, there's a CD board for that. xbobx said: A lot of questions and ifs for a suggestion. if ifs and buts were candy and nuts, wouldn't this be a merry christmas? People can make up a bunch of unlikely ifs and buts and unrealistic potential issues to any suggestion. Doesn't make the suggestion a bad one. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 22, 2015 11:53 AM
#22
Unrealistic? I just made questions, born from my daily observations of this forum. It's you who chose to ignore how troublesome it really is. Regardless, you didn't answer anything, just pretended my comment isn't valid because you don't see it happening. Ironical, coming from someone who want a "serious discussion" board. |
Mar 22, 2015 12:29 PM
#23
xbobx said: Unrealistic? I just made questions, born from my daily observations of this forum. It's you who chose to ignore how troublesome it really is. Regardless, you didn't answer anything, just pretended my comment isn't valid because you don't see it happening. Ironical, coming from someone who want a "serious discussion" board. I used evidence from other parts of the forum to back up my claims, and attacked the validity of your claims, like in any serious discussion or debate. Using evidence to point out that somebody's claims are not valid is exactly what you do in a serious debate or discussion. You didn't proceed to defend your claims, however. You just accused me of being hypocritical without basis, either because you are unable to defend your claims or you're too lazy to. Either way, I stand by the necessity of a serious discussion board and I don't see any logical reason not to have one, only pointless fear-mongering by people that, don't, want, serious discussion on a board, for some reason? It's confusing to me. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 22, 2015 2:17 PM
#25
Space-Wizard said: xbobx said: Unrealistic? I just made questions, born from my daily observations of this forum. It's you who chose to ignore how troublesome it really is. Regardless, you didn't answer anything, just pretended my comment isn't valid because you don't see it happening. Ironical, coming from someone who want a "serious discussion" board. I used evidence from other parts of the forum to back up my claims, and attacked the validity of your claims, like in any serious discussion or debate. Using evidence to point out that somebody's claims are not valid is exactly what you do in a serious debate or discussion. You didn't proceed to defend your claims, however. You just accused me of being hypocritical without basis, either because you are unable to defend your claims or you're too lazy to. Either way, I stand by the necessity of a serious discussion board and I don't see any logical reason not to have one, only pointless fear-mongering by people that, don't, want, serious discussion on a board, for some reason? It's confusing to me. Denying the existence of the issues I brought isn't debating it, it's simply avoiding the subject. First of all, I didn't write all those questions with the intention to debate every single one of them. It was simply the easiest way to show how difficult it would be to maintain the sub-forum and how it could prove out to be useless in the end. You answered all of them, what I didn't expect, as they were supposed to be rhetorical questions and create some kind of introspective analysis. Still, as you answered, you didn't provide solutions (which you should, when asking for a forum change) but said such things don't/won't happen. So I fear there's nothing else I can say, as you won't even accept the criticism in a way to improve your suggestion. >I stand by the necessity of a serious discussion board and I don't see any logical reason not to have one There are plenty of reasons to not have one, and I tried to illustrate them with my post. Not to mention that there are many other suggestions on the queue with higher importance than this. In the end, you could just create a Club, invite the ones you consider intellectual "enough" to engage in such discussions with you and call it a day. Considering the other side of the coin, why won't you crusade for the improvement of the current boards rather than creating a new one? |
Mar 22, 2015 2:57 PM
#26
xbobx said: Denying the existence of the issues I brought isn't debating it, it's simply avoiding the subject. First of all, I didn't write all those questions with the intention to debate every single one of them. Actually, denying the existence of issues as long as there's evidence provided that they aren't actually issues is a perfectly valid form of argumentation. Say, someone argues that birch bark should not be allowed to cross state borders because it is dangerous. You can argue against that by saying there is no evidence of birch bark ever hurting any body, denying the existence of a problem, and provide evidence supporting your claim that birch bark is harmless by demonstrating a lack of documentation of it ever harming anyone. I did the same by pointing to other boards specified for discussion on different topics outside of the CD board, and showing that people tend to follow the rules on those boards, and that I assume the same would happen on a serious discussion board. My argument is completely valid and non-fallacitical. xbobx said: You answered all of them, what I didn't expect, as they were supposed to be rhetorical questions and create some kind of introspective analysis. Still, as you answered, you didn't provide solutions (which you should, when asking for a forum change) but said such things don't/won't happen. "then it probably won't be responded to" -- A solution to a problem you posed, people would solve the problem by not responding to threads they do not care about. "aside from CD and maybe the anime board sometimes, everyone generally behaves themselves and stays on topic." -- A solution to a problem you posed, people would solve the issue by behaving exactly how they tend to behave outside of the CD board. "I don't think banning shitposters on the first few days is even necessary, though it wouldn't really be harmful either now would it." -- A solution to shitposting, that it would either be sorted out by the members and banning would not be harmful to a positive outcome either. "I don't see it being occupied by a couple of users as remotely realistic, there are definitely many people interested in using such a board, this thread alone has more than a couple of daily users who are interested." -- Solution via obvious observation "Because I don't think a serious discussion board would be 600 separate sub-boards about different serious discussion topics" -- A solution to a problem you posed, not having serious discussion being split into sub boards but being a single board "People just don't because they're not interested in it, there's a CD board for that." -- Once again, the people of the forum are the solution that I propose. It's as though you didn't actually read my posts or process the information in them, but are simply angry that someone has argued against your points. xbobx said: So I fear there's nothing else I can say, as you won't even accept the criticism in a way to improve your suggestion. I am a reasonable person and I have had my mind changed by people debating with me before, but people who have done this have understood how argumentation works and know how to properly use resources and evidence in an argument, and understand logic and fallacy, it is clear that you do not understand these things, and I don't think you stand much of a chance of swaying me unless you make an attempt to understand these things. xbobx said: There are plenty of reasons to not have one, and I tried to illustrate them with my post. All fear-mongering, all blown out of the water by logic and the way people behave on boards outside of the CD board. xbobx said: Not to mention that there are many other suggestions on the queue with higher importance than this. Because this thread takes up valuable space? What I see are people discussing code lyoko, finding anime via voice actor which is already possible, and minor issues with alphabetic sorting. A serious discussion board would enrich the forum, and provide a haven for people who care about what they talk about. It matters. xbobx said: In the end, you could just create a Club, invite the ones you consider intellectual "enough" to engage in such discussions with you and call it a day. -> lilcoffeebean said: Right now 'serious' discussion can fit into really two places. Current events, in which case it has to be applicable to current events obviously and clubs, which is not an optimal solution. Having it in a club is, well yes, not an optimal solution, because clubs are not visible and easily accessible by the entire forum user base. I'm not interested in discussing serious topics with the same small group of people over and over until the club dies, I'd rather it be a board that had a constant influx of new voices and different perspectives, a mixing pot of all kinds of users, and not just ones who take the time to check a club on a consistent basis. Lack of access is the issue. xbobx said: Considering the other side of the coin, why won't you crusade for the improvement of the current boards rather than creating a new one? Because nothing is wrong with the current boards. I enjoy them. There is just one that should exist that does not exist. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 22, 2015 4:27 PM
#27
Holy mother. I can image why people wouldn't want to "serious discuss" things with you. Instead of approaching the problem on-topic you wrote all of this, constantly making mention to how good you are in the arts of Socrates' dialectica and how filthy inferior I am. I'm impressed. Good thing I don't need an internet buddy to validate my college degree as well, otherwise I'd be fucked. Congratulations! You won the internet dispute! I will not make observations on your flawless points. Addendum: For someone who claims to know all boards, and believes only CD is problematic, I suggest you spend some days on AD. |
Mar 22, 2015 4:30 PM
#28
xbobx said: Addendum: For someone who claims to know all boards, and believes only CD is problematic, I suggest you spend some days on AD. -> Space-Wizard said: aside from CD and maybe the anime board sometimes, everyone generally behaves themselves and stays on topic. proof of you not reading my posts. And some people enjoy being challenged by someone who understands logic and debate. That's why a serious discussion board would be awesome. Of course some people wouldn't care, that's what CD is for. I still think it's ridiculous that current events exists and serious discussion does not, current events should just be renamed to serious discussion so that any topic is relevant on that board. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 22, 2015 4:41 PM
#29
This would be useless. It'll end like Current Events. Slow as shit because almost no one uses it. That's why I said we should merge CE with CD again and just come back with GD. |
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Mar 22, 2015 4:42 PM
#30
Space-Wizard said: xbobx said: Addendum: For someone who claims to know all boards, and believes only CD is problematic, I suggest you spend some days on AD. -> Space-Wizard said: aside from CD and maybe the anime board sometimes, everyone generally behaves themselves and stays on topic. proof of you not reading my posts. Woah, second time you question if I'm reading your stuff. What are you afraid of? Space-Wizard said: "aside from CD and maybe the anime board sometimes, everyone generally behaves themselves and stays on topic." -- A solution to a problem you posed, people would solve the issue by behaving exactly how they tend to behave outside of the CD board. It's not my fault your wording is misleading. You made mention of the "CD board" another 12 times throughout your replies, and only once of AD. I can only assume you don't browse it very much, as anyone who does knows it's as cancerous as CD. But fear not. As I said, I congratulate you with the title of Discussion Winner. |
Mar 22, 2015 4:45 PM
#31
Oh, and seriously, you think this'll work Space-Wizard? You must be deluded. |
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Mar 22, 2015 5:28 PM
#32
Immahnoob said: Oh, and seriously, you think this'll work Space-Wizard? You must be deluded. No, I don't think it'll work, but to hell if I'm going to let some child who doesn't understand proper argumentation get away with trying to attack the idea. I mean look at this. xbobx said: Space-Wizard said: "aside from CD and maybe the anime board sometimes, everyone generally behaves themselves and stays on topic." -- A solution to a problem you posed, people would solve the issue by behaving exactly how they tend to behave outside of the CD board. It's not my fault your wording is misleading. Calling a very easy to read and understand sentence "misleading" because they were too lazy to read it, because they are butthurt. It's absurd and I won't stand for it. Of course there won't be an SD board, at least anytime soon, but I still have to express my doubt that it would be a dead board. Current events should never have been made, or it should have been made as a serious discussion board, because if current events allowed discussion on any topic in a serious format, it simply wouldn't be a dead board. I'd be talking on there every day and I know many others who would. An SD board is so generalized that failure would be nearly impossible. Getting it to be implemented though? MAL is not a website that has any active construction whatsoever. Even if the demands were landslide, the implementation would still be unlikely I believe due to this fact. In the scenario where it is implemented though, the board would work flawlessly and beautifully, almost sacrosanctually so, I am sure of it. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 22, 2015 5:39 PM
#33
I'm also not sure how you'll make the rules for this "Serious Discussion" board either to differentiate it from the other "not serious discussion" boards... You can just go on CE and be like "THIS IS MY SERIOUS DISCUSSION BOARD NOW, NIGGAS.", and you'll have the same conclusion like what this suggestion wants. |
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Mar 22, 2015 5:46 PM
#34
Immahnoob said: I'm also not sure how you'll make the rules for this "Serious Discussion" board either to differentiate it from the other "not serious discussion" boards... You can just go on CE and be like "THIS IS MY SERIOUS DISCUSSION BOARD NOW, NIGGAS.", and you'll have the same conclusion like what this suggestion wants. That's not a bad idea right there. Just fuckin' pirate the CE board. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 22, 2015 5:57 PM
#35
Mar 22, 2015 6:04 PM
#36
Rasco said: Wait, then why not just simply change change CD to SD? Why allow any non serious threads? because non-serious threads are a necessity to allow serious discussion. Or else nothing would change about the CD board but the name and perhaps more bannings. Having a casual discussion board alongside a serious discussion board is important, so that the children have a place to play and don't meddle with adult affairs. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 22, 2015 8:09 PM
#37
Space-Wizard said: JD2411 said: xEmptiness said: JD2411 said: just make a club and only invite those you want in it it's too much work for the mods I've tried this with Danebenreden. It's very difficult to maintain a healthy population of high quality posters. I agree with the suggestion and even I'm sick of all the stupid threads in CD. The board's turned into a circlejerk full of spamming, shitposting and attention whoring. The problem is, even if a new board is made what's stopping them from ruining that as well? It would take a lot of moderation and considering the moderators are more or less MIA I can't see it happening in the near future. If you agree with the suggestion then stop saying that you think it will be hard to moderate. Freakin', "This is my argument, and here is the evidence against it". People, jeez. I can tell that most MAL members are scared to death of bans, so simply having a sticky'd rules post that says very clearly that you will be banned for spamming or irrelevant conversation on a serious discussion board would probably take care of a lot of these issues. On top of that, look at non-CD forums. They generally operate fine. I would imagine serious discussion would be more similar to a non-CD forum than like a second CD. Bans arent so bad, and you get to spend time in the IRC chat which is hard to know exists outside of being banned. |
Mar 22, 2015 8:11 PM
#38
Woaah, calling me a child and quoting only half of my post. What is this? 2009? Bring back some memories from GAIA time. You're hitting so damn hard on the "argumentation" key but is unable to do so without adding some personal offenses as condiments. Say then, I'm a child, but I want to post on your SD board because there's a EVA thread and I wanna post on it. There will be a sign on the door saying "adults only"? How mature or, rather, erudite must I be to post on your enlightening forum? |
Mar 22, 2015 8:22 PM
#39
Sure, I'd be for this. I have doubts about whether or not the rules would be adequately defined (what constitutes a "serious" discussion versus a "casual" one, and aside from the obviously stupid ones, how's the thread maker going to decide where to put it?), and if they are they may be too strict for most people to bother, thus it'll be fairly inactive. But still, it could be interesting to see how it works, and it couldn't hurt to try. |
Mar 22, 2015 8:46 PM
#40
xbobx said: Woaah, calling me a child and quoting only half of my post. What is this? 2009? Bring back some memories from GAIA time. You're hitting so damn hard on the "argumentation" key but is unable to do so without adding some personal offenses as condiments. Say then, I'm a child, but I want to post on your SD board because there's a EVA thread and I wanna post on it. There will be a sign on the door saying "adults only"? How mature or, rather, erudite must I be to post on your enlightening forum? Ridiculous. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 22, 2015 8:59 PM
#41
Mar 22, 2015 9:12 PM
#42
Do you advocates for this new board already have plenty of topics in mind that you want to discuss, or are you clinging onto a false hope that a whole bunch of intelligent and reasonable people will suddenly come crawling out of the woodwork if only a new board was made for them? If it's the former, then I'll happily make some replies. |
Now you're wondering if there's white text in any of my other posts. Over there, I'm everywhere. I know that. |
Mar 22, 2015 9:58 PM
#43
icirate said: Do you advocates for this new board already have plenty of topics in mind that you want to discuss, or are you clinging onto a false hope that a whole bunch of intelligent and reasonable people will suddenly come crawling out of the woodwork if only a new board was made for them? If it's the former, then I'll happily make some replies. There are a bunch of threads I'd like to make, but can't because it's pointless to make them on the CD board and not applicable to make them on any other board. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 22, 2015 11:48 PM
#44
Immahnoob said: This would be useless. It'll end like Current Events. Slow as shit because almost no one uses it. That's why I said we should merge CE with CD again and just come back with GD. ^This. Re-merge CD and CE and bring back the Spam forum. I've honestly never understood why the forums were changed anyhow, despite having read the reasons given. I'm not going to sit here and say it was so much better, because there will always be issue's, but I think the benefits of the old system outweighed the current status of CD/CE. |
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Mar 23, 2015 2:42 AM
#45
Working_Designs said: I heard injecting cyanide in your bloodstream kills you instead of making you immortal.The ONLY way we will know if this works, is to try. The ONLY way we will know if this works, is to try though. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Mar 23, 2015 7:01 AM
#46
Immahnoob said: Working_Designs said: I heard injecting cyanide in your bloodstream kills you instead of making you immortal.The ONLY way we will know if this works, is to try. The ONLY way we will know if this works, is to try though. Yes, yes, valid argument, we must try this sometime and we must also try a serious discussion board. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Mar 23, 2015 5:55 PM
#47
In my opinion, it doesn't matter how often the board is used, as setting it up would require very minimal time and after that it's only a matter of moderation. It is possible this could lead to more work for the moderation team, I can't discount that possibility, however in a system where moderator's are volunteers there is an abundance of resources to tap into if the situation called for such. Quality not considered =P I doubt it would equate to all that much work however. There is currently a forum place for every anime etc with new one's coming in every season, so quantity is not the issue. Perhaps the board would get more traffic, that may be likely if on the main page, yet, the community can moderate itself via the report command. At that point, it does require an active moderator base though, but that goes back to 'hiring' more resources if necessary. Current Events seems to run rather smoothly though, so I don't think there would be much of a workload increase. |
Mar 23, 2015 10:09 PM
#48
My question to this suggestion is who is going to define serious discussion? There's obviously going to need to be rules set to separate it and CD. Who should be chosen/elected to do this and what will they consist of? Will post length be a deciding factor? What will be acceptable as spam or going off topic and what disciplinary actions should be taken in response to them? I don't see this as simply adding a new board and then telling the mods "Yo make sure no shit posters get in" and that's it. There going to have to divide up their influence to keep it clean which will no doubt affect other parts of the forums. Now either they could increase their mod force and oblige this request or ignore it. I'm more in favor for the latter as the current boards were meant to encompass all manner of discussion. Casual Discussion as I see it which may not be the case was suppose to cover miscellaneous things not pertaining to Anime/Manga/News, etc. It's beyond me why people refuse to acknowledge that serious discussion can be done in CD. I won't deny the amount of shit posters and people unable to comprehend users with a goal for a thread besides casual opinion sharing. Though creating a separate board just for serious discussion seems redundant. I would much rather have CD labelled "Discussion" and encompass both aspects. |
Mar 23, 2015 10:10 PM
#49
Kyalla said: I thought this was clever and so here I am quoting it because I think it deserves more attention.ForMAL Discussion, anyone? |
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