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Sep 21, 2014 12:08 PM
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http://ideas.ted.com/2014/01/23/10-facts-about-infidelity-helen-fisher/

Lots of common sense in the article, but has some statistics to really talk about it in a more biological or cultural sense.

Some interesting information:

6. Myriad psychological, cultural and economic variables play a role in the frequency and expression of infidelity. But one thing is clear: infidelity is a worldwide phenomenon that occurs with remarkable regularity, despite near universal disapproval of this behavior.

8. Infidelity doesn’t necessarily signal an unhappy relationship. Regardless of the correlation between relationship dissatisfaction and adultery, among individuals engaging in infidelity in one study, 56% of men and 34% of women rated their marriage as “happy” or “very happy,” suggesting that genetics may also play a role in philandering.

Unfaithful females reaped economic resources from their extra-dyadic partnerships, as well as additional males to help with parenting duties if their primary partner died or deserted them. Moreover, if an ancestral woman bore a child with this extra-marital partner, she also increased genetic variety in her descendants. Infidelity had unconscious biological payoffs for both males and females throughout prehistory, thus perpetuating the biological underpinnings and taste for infidelity in both sexes today.


Quite educating. What do you know about cheating? It's one thing to disapprove it, but quite another to somehow be part of it. I don't expect our average forumite to have experienced it, but knowing that your ideals and your behaviour can differ is an important aspect of self-understanding, I think. Rather than saying it will never happen to yourself, it's probably better to be aware of our human limitations so we can act more accordingly.
Sep 21, 2014 12:11 PM
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Cheating while natural is bad and heartbreaking and should be illegal in the Western world, just break up or get a divorce if you want greener pastures.


Sep 21, 2014 12:14 PM
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Cheaters should have their genitals mutilated.
Sep 21, 2014 12:21 PM
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Hoppy said:
Cheating while natural is bad and heartbreaking and should be illegal in the Western world, just break up or get a divorce if you want greener pastures.


Illegal?

Lol.

No.
Sep 21, 2014 12:32 PM
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No matter how much I love someone. She cheats -> Pack your things, you have 2 hours.
Delete from life.

My personal reaction to someone cheating.
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Sep 21, 2014 12:41 PM
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"You either choose me or lose me."

Easy.
Sep 21, 2014 1:03 PM
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The scientific study sounded interesting, the possibility of it being a genetic trait is both intriguing and scary in a way. Maybe in the future people will take the gene into consideration when looking for a relationship. Of course the beneficial aspects of infidelity have probably been a major role in those who choose to take part in it.( Attention, money, etc.) I wonder how the overall view of it will change with the passing of time.
Sep 21, 2014 1:13 PM
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Infidels are non-Muslims It's the only fact in my book........I had to say it sorry and with that I take my leave.
Sep 21, 2014 4:20 PM
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God I'm not welcome here. My baes and waifus are everywhere.

If your partner cheats on you, consider it as a really huge red flag. You don't necessarily have to leave her on the spot. Talk about it first and ask why she did it. Some relationships may be saved, but if she's just the type of person to explore or can't stick to one, you're free to leave her.
Sep 21, 2014 4:38 PM

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Some men/women find infidelity thrilling. It's a fetish
Sep 21, 2014 4:45 PM

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I myself wouldn't bother with cheating, there's nothing thrilling for me in it, cheating is a pretty bad idea overall.

Also, I wouldn't like to be cheated on, so I disapprove of it, although this:
"Moreover, if an ancestral woman bore a child with this extra-marital partner, she also increased genetic variety in her descendants."
Is true.




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Sep 21, 2014 5:11 PM
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Fact number nine is interesting and terrifying.
Sadly, my father cheated on my mother. She stayed with him for my big brother and I, but he cheated on her again years later. Not sure if there was anyone in between-- wouldn't doubt it. The worst part is who he cheated on my mother with the first(?) time.

My dad's mother and father were both cheaters. My mother's father was a cheater, though she doesn't cheat. Fact number nine is scaring me.
I know I'd never cheat; my mother's a strong woman, but I can see how hurt she is. I'd never want to see that emotion on anyone's face, especially not because of anything I did.

I'm just scared for my big brother. He already doesn't seem to understand that drinking and driving isn't okay-- and that stealing money out of my room while I'm not around is bad too.

The article does say it's "likely" and not set in stone though.

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Sep 21, 2014 5:14 PM

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Cheaters are selfish assholes.
Sep 21, 2014 5:21 PM

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Uh, it seems pretty clear that the only reason not engage in infidelity is to protect your partner's emotions. Which is pretty legit, considering that that someone is supposedly the most important person in the world to you.

I'd love to see a relationship where the couple just laughs off their irregular infidelity and remain in really good romantic/sexual relationship.
Sep 21, 2014 5:24 PM

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Kaeis said:

I'd love to see a relationship where the couple just laughs off their irregular infidelity and remain in really good romantic/sexual relationship.


i want to see pierrot make a faithful adaptation
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Sep 22, 2014 1:23 AM

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Hoppy said:
Cheating while natural is bad and heartbreaking and should be illegal in the Western world, just break up or get a divorce if you want greener pastures.

I also think it should be illegal. Because it hurts people (love partner and children if they have kids)!
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Sep 22, 2014 3:57 AM

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Shiratori-san said:

I also think it should be illegal. Because it hurts people (love partner and children if they have kids)!
I thought when it comes to marriage it actually is illegal to cheat because marriage is like a legal contract and its a breech of contract?
Sep 22, 2014 4:02 AM

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That's why you gotta live that bachelor life. Kicking someone out of your house is cheaper than alimony.
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Sep 22, 2014 4:06 AM
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traed said:
Shiratori-san said:

I also think it should be illegal. Because it hurts people (love partner and children if they have kids)!
I thought when it comes to marriage it actually is illegal to cheat because marriage is like a legal contract and its a breech of contract?


It should be but its not.
Sep 22, 2014 4:20 AM

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shintai88 said:
traed said:
I thought when it comes to marriage it actually is illegal to cheat because marriage is like a legal contract and its a breech of contract?


It should be but its not.
It isn't illegal but I believe in civil court, evidence of infidelity is taken into account during divorce proceedings.
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Sep 22, 2014 4:29 AM

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Onee_SAMA said:
Infidels are non-Muslims It's the only fact in my book........I had to say it sorry and with that I take my leave.


Islam condones polygamy.
Sep 22, 2014 4:51 AM

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This all happens because society has illogical principles.
The "my partner never must touch anyone else" is one of those since humans obviously need sexual variety in the same way they need more than one type of food. That is why so many fuck others and no matter how socially unacceptable it is it just won't go away.

Is time humans stop trying to change the normal by pushing up-normal principles as normal.
It's better if couples had more open sexual relationship and sexuality was not viewed as something evil. If you can get you wife and go to a friendly couples house where you all fuck each other and so on then i doubt nether you or your wife will ever need to do anything behind each others back.
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Sep 22, 2014 4:56 AM

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Monad said:
This all happens because society has illogical principles.
The "my partner never must touch anyone else" is one of those since humans obviously need sexual variety in the same way they need more than one type of food. That is why so many fuck others and no matter how socially unacceptable it is it just won't go away.

Is time humans stop trying to change the normal by pushing up-normal principles as normal.
It's better if couples had more open sexual relationship and sexuality was not viewed as something evil. If you can get you wife and go to a friendly couples house where you all fuck each other and so on then i doubt nether you or your wife will ever need to do anything behind your back.


This is the post I wanted to see. Thank you. I can't believe people actually spend time making studies like these. It's not rocket science, people obviously like to fuck.
Sep 22, 2014 5:58 AM

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'Thou shalt not commit adultery.' Seems clear enough.
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