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fluffy_mausNov 16, 2014 3:36 PM
| I like how they have incredibly tragic flashbacks the whole episode every episode a character will die in Akame ga Kill. It makes the show a whole lot deeper as a whole. Whole. |
| I hate discussing FS anime because 90% of people mistake anything for "omg foreshadowing" Not only that, but they think foreshadowing > logic in terms of explaining a deus ex machina. |
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| foreshadowing is good, so plot twists don't come out of nowhere, rewatch bonus and discussion fuel especially for ongoing originals; also could be red herring foreshadowing is bad when obvious death flags and stuff like that lack of foreshadowing is good when the twist comes of nowhere it might be more surprising/memorable lack of foreshadowing is bad when convenient backstory out of nowhere, characters that should have been important since the beggining being spontaneously introduced i never thought that a show has "too much foreshadowing" |
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| Tatakau Shisho wouldn't be the same without them. So yeah, I like the foreshadowing device pretty much... when is used correctly. |
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SuperRed said: Mikasa said: I hate discussing FS anime because 90% of people mistake anything for "omg foreshadowing" Not only that, but they think foreshadowing > logic in terms of explaining a deus ex machina. What does "FS" stand for? in this context I would guess foreshadowing? |
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laldonkaments said: I don't think you're doing a very good job. Retconning isn't proper foreshadowing.Mikasa said: I hate discussing FS anime because 90% of people mistake anything for "omg foreshadowing" Not only that, but they think foreshadowing > logic in terms of explaining a deus ex machina. I hereby foreshadow the appearance of a certain MAL user Foreshadowing can bring that much needed taste of irony and inevitability. |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: SuperRed said: What does "FS" stand for? in this context I would guess foreshadowing? Oh right... |
laldonkaments said: What do you think of 'foreshadowing'? Does it make a story better or deeper? Is it an overused literary device? Does it take tension away since one can already guess what will happen? Which animu use an excessive amount of foreshadowing? etc. Every literary element makes the show more interesting. |
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romagia said: foreshadowing is good, so plot twists don't come out of nowhere, rewatch bonus and discussion fuel especially for ongoing originals; also could be red herring foreshadowing is bad when obvious death flags and stuff like that lack of foreshadowing is good when the twist comes of nowhere it might be more surprising/memorable lack of foreshadowing is bad when convenient backstory out of nowhere, characters that should have been important since the beggining being spontaneously introduced i never thought that a show has "too much foreshadowing" Twists are supposes to be out of nowhere/surprising. Bad/good writing depends on wheter the twist makes sense or not. Foreshadowing has no actual effect whatsoever. At its best it's like a cyclist doing a backflip, it's not necessary, but can be very impressive. @superred I was hoping that was sarcasm... |
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| Foreshadowing doesn't necessarily have to herald 'twists'. In fact, it makes more sense for foreshadowing to be used for more straightforward events. I suppose we might be heading into the territory of definitions now. Good joy. |
Mikasa said: I hate discussing FS anime because 90% of people mistake anything for "omg foreshadowing" Not only that, but they think foreshadowing > logic in terms of explaining a deus ex machina. Implying I was being serious. |
| I generally like it. When re-reading pandora hearts, the amount of foreshadowing that I missed never fails to impress me. |
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kokkoderrisch said: I like how they have incredibly tragic flashbacks the whole episode every episode a character will die in Akame ga Kill. It makes the show a whole lot deeper as a whole. Whole. That's not foreshadowing, that's just you catching on to Death Flags |
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kokkoderrisch said: Mikasa said: I hate discussing FS anime because 90% of people mistake anything for "omg foreshadowing" Not only that, but they think foreshadowing > logic in terms of explaining a deus ex machina. Implying I was being serious. Wasn't talking about you... |
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| Like just about anything else, foreshadowing is good when it's done right...... yeah, I kinda felt like being captain obvious. |
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| Now, I am not sure if this is called a foreshadowing, but first episode of Steins Gate, where Okabe got that phonecall which was not understandable after meeting with Kurise. That thing alone, which lasted for a mere 5 seconds rounded up this series extremely well. So, I do love foreshadowing, though I do not want it to reveal to much of a story. I just want it to be a hook, and like in SG to stay in back of my head for the time being, till it's time to shine comes. |
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| Shinsekai Yori and HxH do really good foreshadowing. Death Note had one certain good foreshadowing that was awesome. SnK is really good by avoidig FS altogether and making things surprising as hell, while somehwat believable. |
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gedata said: kokkoderrisch said: I like how they have incredibly tragic flashbacks the whole episode every episode a character will die in Akame ga Kill. It makes the show a whole lot deeper as a whole. Whole. That's not foreshadowing, that's just you catching on to Death Flags I know. |
Mikasa said: SnK is really good by avoidig FS altogether and making things surprising as hell, while somehwat believable. But we know about those 2 being that for all the foreshadowing before the reveal. I don't think that avoiding it's the right word. |
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LoneWolfRain said: I love good foreshadowing because of two reasons: 1) It shows that the writer actually planned his/her shit out, thus being more likely keep me interested in the story because it's most likely actually good. 2) It's fun to predict what will happen based on the hint. Especially when the characters are unpredictable or do a lot of introspection, because you keep the hint from the foreshadowing in your head and then see how the character's reasoning can lead to what was foreshadowed. On the other hand, if two writers write the same quality, I think the one who didn't plan and wrote off the top of his head to be much smarter than one who had a lot of time. |
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laldonkaments said: LoneWolfRain said: I don't necessarily think it would make him "smarter", just more gifted in writing stories. Could be a sign of being more intelligent, though. I'm kind of tired of FS since it makes (below) average stories look more intelligent than they really are ("Wow, sugoooi, the author had it all planned out from the start! Much diligency! Such depth!") I never had that kind of reaction since for me foreshadowing is not that special of a device since it's just a foreshadowing... |
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| It's great when it's subtle and easily missed without paying close attention. It's best when it doesn't completely imply the events to come, but perhaps bits and pieces. Otherwise the plot might as well be poking you with a stick saying "hey hey guess what, something is gonna happen!" |
laldonkaments said: What do you think of 'foreshadowing'? Does it make a story better or deeper? Is it an overused literary device? Does it take tension away since one can already guess what will happen? Which animu use an excessive amount of foreshadowing? etc. Depends, if the story has twists then a subtle foreshadowing to allow intelligent watchers to actually see it coming is vital, or it's just going to be a cheap "jump twist" which any half-brained monkey can write. (See: Kamisama no Memochou) |
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laldonkaments said: Princess Tutu uses a lot of foreshadowing.What do you think of 'foreshadowing'? Does it make a story better or deeper? Is it an overused literary device? Does it take tension away since one can already guess what will happen? Which animu use an excessive amount of foreshadowing? etc. Which is ok as long as it's not too blatant: "Little did Timmy know that his spleen was soon to be ripped from his body by a one-eyed man named Wilfred at a subway station at noon...." |
| I like the usage of it. Definitely makes the story more believable I guess. I like it when the puzzle pieces come together. Excessive? Can't think of any really. Ones that do it well? Shinsekai Yori. Hal. |
| If you don't already know how the story plays out you probably won't realise when foreshadowing is going on anyway. |
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ReaperCreeper said: If you don't already know how the story plays out you probably won't realise when foreshadowing is going on anyway. Sometimes, they're small things that sound a bit unusual yet leave an impression on me, so I still remember it later when the events actually happen. Like for example: Episode 2: And that was the last time I saw her smile Episode 5: She dies |
| Snk does a good job in "foreshadowing" imo. I generally like series that has a lot of foreshadowing in it. |
mayukachan said: ReaperCreeper said: If you don't already know how the story plays out you probably won't realise when foreshadowing is going on anyway. Sometimes, they're small things that sound a bit unusual yet leave an impression on me, so I still remember it later when the events actually happen. Like for example: Episode 2: And that was the last time I saw her smile Episode 5: She dies Though sometimes you might think you caught something only for it to be a red herring. |
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ReaperCreeper said: Though sometimes you might think you caught something only for it to be a red herring. Which is completely okay too. |
| I hate plot twists or change in character that comes out of nowhere, so I guess I'd consider foreshadowing important. That being said, I don't like it to be too obvious. |
| the smaller and inconspicuous it is the better it feels when all the pieces come together. it almost feels like Scooby dooXInception sometimes. |
| Ever watch a completed airing show with them foreshadowing a main characters death? Then you look at the episode count/genre&demography and like laugh cause you know they won't die? |
keragamming said: Snk does a good job in "foreshadowing" imo. I generally like series that has a lot of foreshadowing in it. It doesn't imo. But I think it falls into this: romagia said: lack of foreshadowing is good when the twist comes of nowhere it might be more surprising/memorable |
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laldonkaments said: LoneWolfRain said: I don't necessarily think it would make him "smarter", just more gifted in writing stories. Could be a sign of being more intelligent, though. I'm kind of tired of FS since it makes (below) average stories look more intelligent than they really are ("Wow, sugoooi, the author had it all planned out from the start! Much diligency! Such depth!") Usually it's not even FS. My favorite foreshadowing was of Nen from HxH, way to introduce such a complex ab fascinating system... |
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tsudecimo said: keragamming said: Snk does a good job in "foreshadowing" imo. I generally like series that has a lot of foreshadowing in it. It doesn't imo. But I think it falls into this: romagia said: lack of foreshadowing is good when the twist comes of nowhere it might be more surprising/memorable I think you miss out on a lot of foreshadowing, If you want to get more hints of foreshadowing you'll have to read over the manga to see things you didn't at first, but since you're not a big fan like me that is willing to read over the entire manga more than once, then you wont see certain foreshadowing. Everything that happens had some foreshadowing in the manga. But if you like you can tell me what you thought that happen in the series that didn't get any foreshadowing before it was reveal. Remember to put spoiler. |
| With the romangia quote, I was referring to Post the foreshadowing of the manga if you think otherwise. |
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tsudecimo said: funny because that's how i first thought of my name; by switching the n in romania with a gWith the romangia quote, I was referring to Post the foreshadowing of the manga if you think otherwise. |
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tsudecimo said: With the romangia quote, I was referring to Post the foreshadowing of the manga if you think otherwise. |
keragammingSep 19, 2014 3:34 AM
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Mikasa said: complex ab fascinating system... Mikasa's abs do tend to fascinate a lot of fans. |
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tsudecimo said: With the romangia quote, I was referring to AOT spoilers: |
SetsukoHara said: AOT spoilers: How would you do it differently? |
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tsudecimo said: With the romangia quote, I was referring to Post the foreshadowing of the manga if you think otherwise. |
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| > Never asks for the foreshadowing of the three titans because of how obvious it was > Keeps getting it anyway. Sigh. You should have read the second reply to Kera, instead of posting that image. |
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