| I know a lot of people hate the ecchi genre, harems, bland MC and characters with no emotion. But why do they hate those things. Ecchi is a genre, and If you don't like that genre, just don't watch it. Harem is a genre too, so if you don't like, just don't watch it. Bland Main Characters can be really fitting to story, and if it fits the story why are there haters. And characters with no emotion. I can understand why people hate them, but if every character is a happy go lucky sugar addict on speed you need to have some variation. So why all the hate? |
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| Because our community can never relate to harem MC or a gary stu or an emotionless character. |
| Because they give Anime a bad reputation. |
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| I hate the harems. I hate wimpy protags. I hate all ecchi. I hate snarky mcs. I hate the anime world. And all its sights and sounds. Boom De Yada! Boom De Yada! |
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Milk_is_Special said: I know a lot of people hate the ecchi genre, harems, bland MC and characters with no emotion. But why do they hate those things. Ecchi is a genre, and If you don't like that genre, just don't watch it. Harem is a genre too, so if you don't like, just don't watch it. Bland Main Characters can be really fitting to story, and if it fits the story why are there haters. And characters with no emotion. I can understand why people hate them, but if every character is a happy go lucky sugar addict on speed you need to have some variation. So why all the hate? I don't hate any of them honestly, I just don't like when a good show abuses with the fanservice, but meh, if the show is good I can endure the pain. Harem, Bland main characters and emotionless characters are fine, I enjoy most of them honestly. |
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| Ecchi is for shows that aren't trying to take itself too seriously which is fine. But it's obnoxious if it's supposed to be a "good" show and ruins the atmosphere with panty shots. Panty shots are seriously awful and take the viewer out of the show. Feels like it's been a long time since I've seen a harem. Most are very bland and generic with poor jokes. There's only so many times you can watch someone slip and fall and grab a boob etc and have it still be fresh and funny. When I was new to anime I enjoyed the first harems I watched even if they were shitty. Now I think they're retarded. Bland main characters are awful. Have a personality. I literally dropped Aldnoah Zero because the character not only made no sense in the first episode, but showed 0% personality like he was an apathetic psycho. I still wouldn't mind a harem if it toned down the ecchi and was genuinely funny / interesting. But it's usually not. They normally have worse directing, worse writing thus worse dialogue, and are often poor. Basically you have hentai for fapping why bring ridiculous shots into anime? Ecchi can be done properly to add spice, but if the whole show is just an excuse to see each girl nearly naked the maximum number of times why watch the show at all? Just go fap to porn or hentai or w/e and then watch a real show that actually tries to entertain you. If the characters exchange witty banter it can be pretty fun but I don't know which shows do that since I avoid them nowadays. Most people like the Gatari series and I remember Senjougahara being pretty cool. But I have only seen season 1. |
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| I'm fine with ecchi and harem, but I can't stand bland MC because how am i supposed to like a character if they have no personality??? |
| Also as viewers we shouldn't reward lazy & talentless writing that insults us by throwing garbage at us. |
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| I only dislike bland MC characters... They are douchebags who should know their place. |
| This "don't watch it if you don't like it" retort is pretty dumb since it's telling people that any sort of criticism is prohibited. There is no such thing as a person who watches everything, who enjoys everything; we are all critics to some extent and we are allowed to voice our opinions when something bothers us. The worst thing you can possibly have is an echo chamber. |
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Veronin said: if you are critical of an entire genre, it means that you are not part of the target audience; periphery hatedom yoThis "don't watch it if you don't like it" retort is pretty dumb since it's telling people that any sort of criticism is prohibited. There is no such thing as a person who watches everything, who enjoys everything; we are all critics to some extent and we are allowed to voice our opinions when something bothers us. The worst thing you can possibly have is an echo chamber. |
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| Ah, I thought this was going to be a "why is there so much hate in general" thread. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Okashi--chan said: Because our community can never relate to harem MC Yes they can. Bland average or below average looking guys is the intended audience for a lot of harems, with these type of MCs. Wish fulfillment and such. Veronin said: This "don't watch it if you don't like it" retort is pretty dumb since it's telling people that any sort of criticism is prohibited. There is no such thing as a person who watches everything, who enjoys everything; we are all critics to some extent and we are allowed to voice our opinions when something bothers us. The worst thing you can possibly have is an echo chamber. Not really. It's common sense, that is not so common due to how stupid some people are. There is difference between criticizing something you had no experience with and health-ly voicing your negative opinion about it, and something that you know you are not gonna like, yet you watch it, and complain about it, even though it's pretty easy to just avoid it (i.e the harem and ecchi genre, or a sequel for an anime you hated) Some people are toxic for the sake of being toxic, and that is all kind of wrong. |
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| Because when they're creating them, and you people are encouraging them to do so with your money, they're not making GOOD shows, which is what I want to see. |
| Anyone who doesn't hate anime hasn't watched enough anime. - Anonymous |
Okashi--chan said: How does one relate to an emotionless character?Because our community can never relate to harem MC or a gary stu or an emotionless character. |
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| here it is: If you want the fun, go 4chan If you want the serious, go AnimeSuki If you want the like, go Reddit If you want the hate, go MAL |
TheFilthyCasual said: Because when they're creating them, and you people are encouraging them to do so with your money, they're not making GOOD shows, which is what I want to see. what money this a pirate 'community' brah |
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IFuckedAPie said: That's why i said they can never relateOkashi--chan said: How does one relate to an emotionless character?Because our community can never relate to harem MC or a gary stu or an emotionless character. |
insan3soldiern said: You can talk about that if you want to. Those things just came to my mind. If you want to talk about why there is so much hate in general just do it, I'm not gonna stop you. :)Ah, I thought this was going to be a "why is there so much hate in general" thread. |
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| Why not? Hating it's good |
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Okashi--chan said: Eh, your post kind of made it seem like it's an issue limited to our community. Maybe I should of read OP's post first.IFuckedAPie said: That's why i said they can never relateHow does one relate to an emotionless character? |
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| some cartoons are really bad so they get a lot of hate. DUH |
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| Because Wimpy MCs need to go extinct, either have one that likes females, have one that's actually gay and going after a male (the girls in his harem can find out the truth and cheer him on or make him go bi), or have an all female cast in ecchi and harem anime. |
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Praland said: Why not? Hating it's good I heard it's bad for your health. |
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tsudecimo said: what are you a fucking doctor or somethig?Praland said: Why not? Hating it's good I heard it's bad for your health. |
| Kenjataimu mode status: 恒久 |
| I hate half of the stereotypes that come out of ecchis. Thankfully, my hate is healthy: I prefer to sing a Rickroll as i remember the ecchis of which I hate. |
| Hate comes from tastes conflicts and stupidity, that's why there's so much hate. |
| i got strong feelings about stuff art should be criticized anyway |
| You don't have to be lucky-go-lucky, but there are plenty other characters that there can be. Personally, I don't like ecchi, but there are some good series that I wouldn't wanna miss which have this genre too. If there aren't many scenes I don't mind. What many people probably don't like in the harem genre, including me, is the mc's attitude (he is usually indecisive, dumb, clumsy or completely ignorant). I can watch this genre from time to time, when I want to watch something different, probably funny or light-hearted. |
OnlyTemporary said: tsudecimo said: what are you a fucking doctor or somethig?I heard it's bad for your health. My about me section says, that a might be in the future :o |
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danae17 said: Ok, I can understand that, but then my question to you is: What do you think of a harem show with a MC who actually chooses the girl he wants to be with, like with Zero no Tsukaime.You don't have to be lucky-go-lucky, but there are plenty other characters that there can be. Personally, I don't like ecchi, but there are some good series that I wouldn't wanna miss which have this genre too. If there aren't many scenes I don't mind. What many people probably don't like in the harem genre, including me, is the mc's attitude (he is usually indecisive, dumb, clumsy or completely ignorant). I can watch this genre from time to time, when I want to watch something different, probably funny or light-hearted. |
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| It is hard to find anime without ecchi/harem. It is everywhere, in almost every anime. I can't say that I hate it, but I definitely don't like it. |
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| ecchi is Love ecchi is life |
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GreyKitty said: It is hard to find anime without ecchi/harem. It is everywhere, in almost every anime. I can't say that I hate it, but I definitely don't like it. you're not looking hard enough. OT: i don't understand it either, it's one thing to dislike a series for good reasons, but i don't get why someone would waste time constantly bashing a series. it's easier to just ignore it. |
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GreyKitty said: i really wonder want makes some people actually think that @_@It is hard to find anime without ecchi/harem. It is everywhere, in almost every anime. I can't say that I hate it, but I definitely don't like it. if you ever checked some season sheets, that statement is so obviously false i don't even |
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| Idk, my signature is just as confused about this. It's general human psychology to elevate yourself/your ego/your taste by hating and trashtalking other stuff/people, so I don't think it's anime fandom specific (it just gets more intense when fandoms of any kind are involved), but it still pretty sad and to me just makes people seem bitter, frustrated and unhappy with their lives when they spend a lot of time writing toxic comments about shows, fanbases or even individual users/posts. And it's not about not having any complaints or enjoying everything. It's about making the conscious decision to focus much more on the negative, on the aspects or whole shows you didn't like, instead of the stuff you did enjoy. Some people enjoying talking about their favorites, just reveling in the enjoyment they get out of anime, and others do the complete opposite. They may also enjoy some shows, but when they talk about anime it's just (often unwarranted) complaints, insults, arrogance, ignorance and talking down to others. I can only conclude they are bitter and unhappy people who just want to make the rest of the world as miserable as they are. Not consciously of course (or maybe), but psychologically I don't think it's too far from the truth. This is more general though and not specifically about harem/ecchi haters. Hate is just too strong a feeling to waste it on a hobby/entertainment so it's always an overreaction, not just for those genres. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Eremiel said: You just have to name that show. It's just pure fanservice.maken-ki season 2 enough said it is a mini gun of fan service. |
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| Smut is love, smut is life. |
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Milk_is_Special said: Yea, fitting for a poorly written shitty story.Bland Main Characters can be really fitting to story, and if it fits the story why are there haters. lol |
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| I hate grimderp and mecha/ shounen full of posturing, smack-talking low-brow male characters, but I don't seek out those anime and talk down on them in their own forums like some militants will around here. romagia said: Veronin said: if you are critical of an entire genre, it means that you are not part of the target audience; periphery hatedom yoThis "don't watch it if you don't like it" retort is pretty dumb since it's telling people that any sort of criticism is prohibited. There is no such thing as a person who watches everything, who enjoys everything; we are all critics to some extent and we are allowed to voice our opinions when something bothers us. The worst thing you can possibly have is an echo chamber. This. I mentioned what genres I hate, and how I don't watch them. I don't consider myself the target audience. There are plenty of people who seem to think of anime as a whole as something that should cater to their every whim at all times. Special snowflakes and spoiled princesses are what they are, I can imagine them all up in a tiara and a tutu smashing their keyboard TAKATAKATAKA all through the night. Just watch what you like and shut up. |
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| I agree with Op 100% I've already said this many times when I hear people shitting on ecchi series and saying it doesn't have this and that in it, when it wasn't going for what you were looking for. If you don't like the genre stay the fuck a way from it then, and stop your complaining. You already know what's expected in a ecchi anime.That's like watching hentai/porn and saying that it should not focus on sex. |
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| Because, without hate, what is love? Cmon MAL, dont disappoint me. |
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Okashi--chan said: Because our community can never relate to harem MC or a gary stu or an emotionless character. |
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keragamming said: I agree with Op 100% I've already said this many times when I hear people shitting on ecchi series and saying it doesn't have this and that in it, when it wasn't going for what you were looking for. If you don't like the genre stay the fuck a way from it then, and stop your complaining. You already know what's expected in a ecchi anime.That's like watching hentai/porn and saying that it should not focus on sex. Omg yes this xD It's like if u don't like it then why are u watching it? |
| MAL: A community that thinks every anime is bad, but rates everything a 7/10. |
| Because they are abominations. And no I don't even watch Anime anymore, they are partly to blame for that. |
GreatWarlord said: Just a question, why are you still on the anime forum if you don't watch anime anymore? that is the same is reading the tv-guide when you don't have a tv.Because they are abominations. And no I don't even watch Anime anymore, they are partly to blame for that. |
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Milk_is_Special said: GreatWarlord said: Just a question, why are you still on the anime forum if you don't watch anime anymore? that is the same is reading the tv-guide when you don't have a tv.Because they are abominations. And no I don't even watch Anime anymore, they are partly to blame for that. I'm on here every other day just to pass some time, also checking if there's an Anime worth me getting back into it I guess. |
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