Tokyo Ghoul Chapter 143 Discussion

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yeah so the chapter showed juuzo maturing. The rest is depressing but at the same time points at the possibility of a part 2.

Sep 12, 2014 6:55 PM

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^This
I wouldn't be so disappointed with this ending if Kaneki would have accomplished anything with his death like,

Code Geass spoilers ahread

I hope there won't be a sequel unless touka's words come true!

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Sep 12, 2014 7:09 PM

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There still many unanswered question left, i really hope there will be a sequel.

Is amon really dead ? I dont believe it.
Kaneki seems dead, but I dont believe it too, because the black haired kaneki embrace white haired kaneki and acknowledge each other, he says "lets.. just rest a bit".
The identitiy of the clown is still unknown.
The black rabbit mask incident (touka mask was a white rabbit).
Aogiri true objective, tatara says "the king is going to pass" and the meaning of "to smoke out a liar", what does it mean ?
Organization called "V" when they approach yoshimura, who are they ? And their objective ?
Hide whereabout.
What dr. Kanou "really" wanna do with his ghoul-transform experiments.

I really really hope for sequel

World is cruel place, and at the same time it's beautiful

Sep 12, 2014 7:14 PM

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Tsukiyama reminds me of myself now.
Personally i think there is going to be a sequel.I believe in that sadist Ishida for some reason...but yeah.I don't have much to say - just going to rate it 10/10 and hopefully we will get sequel soon.Too many unanswared questions.
Also, i love how Juuzou changed - him being on knees made me feel really proud and sad for him at same time.I wish Shinohara was alive so he can learn even more from him...this is a tragedy story tho.

Sep 12, 2014 7:18 PM

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iLostReason said:
Tsukiyama reminds me of myself now.
Personally i think there is going to be a sequel.I believe in that sadist Ishida for some reason...but yeah.I don't have much to say - just going to rate it 10/10 and hopefully we will get sequel soon.Too many unanswared questions.
Also, i love how Juuzou changed - him being on knees made me feel really proud and sad for him at same time.I wish Shinohara was alive so he can learn even more from him...this is a tragedy story tho.

i don't know if i can rate it until i get a sequel. A sequel determines if the chapter is good or not

Sep 12, 2014 7:38 PM

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Shinohara unconsciousness for life now, it seems. Pretty much a dead man. As others said, Kaneki seems to be ERASED and been done in. He's now a suitcase weapon, you could say—judging by the "ownership part." I can't believe Amon is 'supposedly' dead too.

Also...

;_; Poor Touka. She doesn't know a thing... Unless we're being played the fools, but I doubt it.

LastChapter said:
Pierrot having the last laugh though.... meaning Studio Pierrot, the studio that adapted the anime right? Trolled right up until the end.

God, I lol'd at this part.

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Sep 12, 2014 7:40 PM

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so is the chapter out? or is it just the scans?

Sep 12, 2014 7:41 PM

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So Amon is dead. And apparently Kaneki is too.

But god that plot twist.

Also Tsukiyama looks really miserable, Nishiki you better force that coffee down his throat or he might starve himself to death. . . How will it end in just one episode chapter when it feels like it just started?

Uta and the others. . . . I don't even.

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Sep 12, 2014 7:41 PM

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Kidwhaha said:
so is the chapter out? or is it just the scans?

Yes. However, please do not ask where to read it. It is not allowed on the forums.

Sep 12, 2014 7:45 PM

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i hope this manga gets a sequel it was a really decent manga but this abrupt ending just ruined it

Sep 12, 2014 7:45 PM

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Tyrel said:

Kidwhaha said:
so is the chapter out? or is it just the scans?

Yes. However, please do not ask where to read it. It is not allowed on the forums.

Ok thanks :)

Sep 12, 2014 7:47 PM

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If anything, the fact that we are told that there were missing bodies for "confirmed" deaths (like the investigators) makes me wonder, who really is dead, and who isn't? Although I'm pretty sure Kaneki is dead, even now that it's one of the most obvious and easiest to confirm deaths, we are still given hope.

The hints for a continuation are stronger than ever. Let's wait it out, I'm pretty sure the next few weeks are gonna be interesting.

Rueby said:
So Amon is dead. And apparently Kaneki is too.

But god that plot twist.

Also Tsukiyama looks really miserable, Nishiki you better force that coffee down his throat or he might starve himself to death. . . How will it end in just one episode when it feels like it just started?

Uta and the others. . . . I don't even.

I feel so sorry for Tsukiyama, his reaction leads me to believe he actually did care for Kaneki in the end.

About Uta, I'm not gonna lie, I wasn't too surprised. Out of all the people who took on the fight against Aogiri, he was the only one without a clear purpose. It certainly wasn't because of deep attachments. We still don't know what his intentions are, although we now know they are far from innocent.

I really hope we get a continuation.

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Sep 12, 2014 7:55 PM

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In the chapter there is a part where the ghoul from aogiri (cant remember his name) says "ghoul investigators have a more durable body compared to those of the ordinary" with this i still believe amon is alive.

Sep 12, 2014 7:56 PM

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SIGHHHH so kaneki is dead.... i know his story is to be a tragic one but oh my god this is the most tragic story iv ever heard

Sep 12, 2014 8:00 PM

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Kidwhaha said:

Tyrel said:

Yes. However, please do not ask where to read it. It is not allowed on the forums.

Ok thanks :)

google imperial scans

Sep 12, 2014 8:01 PM

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Cunning said:
SIGHHHH so kaneki is dead.... i know his story is to be a tragic one but oh my god this is the most tragic story iv ever heard

Still one chapter to go. Anything can happen.

Sep 12, 2014 8:01 PM

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Rueby said:
So Amon is dead. And apparently Kaneki is too.

But god that plot twist.

Also Tsukiyama looks really miserable, Nishiki you better force that coffee down his throat or he might starve himself to death. . . How will it end in just one episode when it feels like it just started?

Uta and the others. . . . I don't even.

Amon isn't confirmed dead. Aogiri was talking about how investigator bodies were good test subjects

Sep 12, 2014 8:01 PM

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Tyrel said:

Cunning said:
SIGHHHH so kaneki is dead.... i know his story is to be a tragic one but oh my god this is the most tragic story iv ever heard

Still one chapter to go. Anything can happen.

No the last chapter has already been released.

Sep 12, 2014 8:02 PM

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This definitely needs a sequel and the anime needs a remake. Can't wait to review it next week for the trash that it has become. As for this manga, it's been a fun journey. I can't say this chapter is good since there are lot of unresolved issues.

Sigh, I wanted to see Kaneki one last time in the flesh. Let's hope what Toka is saying will come true...

Tyrel said:

Cunning said:
SIGHHHH so kaneki is dead.... i know his story is to be a tragic one but oh my god this is the most tragic story iv ever heard

Still one chapter to go. Anything can happen.

This is the end :/
http://myanimelist.net/manga/33327/Tokyo_Ghoul/moreinfo

MAL counts them as an additional chapter.

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Sep 12, 2014 8:02 PM

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Rueby said:
So Amon is dead. And apparently Kaneki is too.

But god that plot twist.

Also Tsukiyama looks really miserable, Nishiki you better force that coffee down his throat or he might starve himself to death. . . How will it end in just one episode when it feels like it just started?

Uta and the others. . . . I don't even.

Amon isn't confirmed dead. Aogiri was talking about how investigator bodies were good test subjects

yes i agree with this and as i stated above there is a part where the ghoul from aogiri (cant remember his name) says "ghoul investigators have a more durable body compared to those of the ordinary" with this i still believe amon is alive.

Sep 12, 2014 8:09 PM

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So its over.

It was a fantastic series. I like how the author had the guts to go for the tragic ending. It wasn't my preferred ending (I would've liked Kaneki and Amon to wind up with Touka and Akira).

But that aside, this series really ended in tragedy. I feel so bad for some of these characters. Especially Touka :(((((

Sep 12, 2014 8:12 PM

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Lefty112 said:
So its over.

It was a fantastic series. I like how the author had the guts to go for the tragic ending. It wasn't my preferred ending (I would've liked Kaneki and Amon to wind up with Touka and Akira).

But that aside, this series really ended in tragedy. I feel so bad for some of these characters. Especially Touka :(((((

Yeah the last thing she said to him is that trash like him should stay out of anteiku lol

Sep 12, 2014 8:15 PM

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No matter how many times I real this chapter, there's no way that this is the end of the series and I'm 100% sure of that!! The author was just "building up".

Let's just wait for the sequel.

Sep 12, 2014 8:16 PM

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yamimasu said:
If anything, the fact that we are told that there were missing bodies for "confirmed" deaths (like the investigators) makes me wonder, who really is dead, and who isn't? Although I'm pretty sure Kaneki is dead, even now that it's one of the most obvious and easiest to confirm deaths, we are still given hope.

The hints for a continuation are stronger than ever. Let's wait it out, I'm pretty sure the next few weeks are gonna be interesting.

Rueby said:
So Amon is dead. And apparently Kaneki is too.

But god that plot twist.

Also Tsukiyama looks really miserable, Nishiki you better force that coffee down his throat or he might starve himself to death. . . How will it end in just one episode when it feels like it just started?

Uta and the others. . . . I don't even.

I feel so sorry for Tsukiyama, his reaction leads me to believe he actually did care for Kaneki in the end.

About Uta, I'm not gonna lie, I wasn't too surprised. Out of all the people who took on the fight against Aogiri, he was the only one without a clear purpose. It certainly wasn't because of deep attachments. We still don't know what his intentions are, although we now know they are far from innocent.

I really hope we get a continuation.

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You know there's a few things that has been bothering me. Like one the paper that had Kaneki's picture had the word erased on it while the one on top didn't. And erased as a word doesn't fit in describing that he died. More like they erased his existence in that it won't get out considering he used to be human. Like why not use exterminated or not use anything at all and just have the black lines. That would easily describe that he had died.

And two, Touka is shown as priestess who represents intuition. And considering her dialogue about Kaneki coming back there could be a bigger meaning to this. Also Kaneki is labeled as Temperance which doesn't represent death, but more of a rebirth.

Though all these hints could mean nothing and that Ishida is just a troll. And we are in denial.

Sep 12, 2014 8:16 PM

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I still believe tokyo ghoul joker is the sequel one shot

Sep 12, 2014 8:17 PM

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Satan-sama said:
No matter how many times I real this chapter, there's no way that this is the end of the series and I'm 100% sure of that!! The author was just "building up".

Let's just wait for the sequel.

I also believe there will be a sequel, but I just don't like the fact that if there is, Kaneki won't be the MC :(, and also Amon is dead.

Sep 12, 2014 8:23 PM

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I think this chapter gave me more hope that Kaneki is alive/ will still be around in the (hopefully there is one) sequel. If anything this chapter leaves more openings for the future than if we were to speculate from just the events of the Anteique raid.

Arima does seem to have a new Quinque, but it's unsure as to if Kaneki was the 'material' or not, and even then there's still hope as long as his body wasn't destroyed. And yes, I am going there, Kanou's experiments are beyond extreme, and I don't think preserving a body would be beyond his ability with the technology he seems to be using. Eto even makes a comment about making Kaneki again, and while that could mean just trying to replicate the same experiment with someone else, I have a feeling she's really thinking about putting Kaneki himself back together.

She does seem to be that whacked out, as she rescued her own father simply for the purpose of creating 'owl' half ghouls. And I'd have to say that I agree with the theory that Amon is among them, and is likely to become a half ghoul himself.

I really don't think that there's going to be a new person as the main character for the sequel, because with how things have been it just doesn't feel like it'd be right, just too cliche for this world of ghouls. If anything I do believe that the main cast of character will change a bit, or even expand, but I really do want to hold true to the idea of both Kaneki and Amon still holding most of the center light.

But I understand the need for Tokyo Ghoul to end, because it was following Kaneki's tragic story overall, and in order to expand further into the manga's world it would need to have a different feel to it, to be able to follow THAT story instead of just Kaneki's own personal one.

Kaneki's 'tragedy' could simply be seem as ending with the finishing of Tokyo Ghoul, but I'd like the believe that that isn't just the ending overall. I mean, technically, he DID die from being stabbed in the head, so even if there's a possibility of him being brought back (which I hold dear to) then that would still qualify as the 'story of the life of Kaneki Ken' being a tragedy.

For Kaneki and Amon to survive, that would be an uplifting relief/ miracle, so if it does happen it has to be in some other work than Tokyo Ghoul.

But this is just my opinion/ hope on the whole thing.

Sep 12, 2014 8:23 PM

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yamimasu said:
If anything, the fact that we are told that there were missing bodies for "confirmed" deaths (like the investigators) makes me wonder, who really is dead, and who isn't? Although I'm pretty sure Kaneki is dead, even now that it's one of the most obvious and easiest to confirm deaths, we are still given hope.

The hints for a continuation are stronger than ever. Let's wait it out, I'm pretty sure the next few weeks are gonna be interesting.

I feel so sorry for Tsukiyama, his reaction leads me to believe he actually did care for Kaneki in the end.

About Uta, I'm not gonna lie, I wasn't too surprised. Out of all the people who took on the fight against Aogiri, he was the only one without a clear purpose. It certainly wasn't because of deep attachments. We still don't know what his intentions are, although we now know they are far from innocent.

I really hope we get a continuation.

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You know there's a few things that has been bothering me. Like one the paper that had Kaneki's picture had the word erased on it while the one on top didn't. And erased as a word doesn't fit in describing that he died. More like they erased his existence in that it won't get out considering he used to be human. Like why not use exterminated or not use anything at all and just have the black lines. That would easily describe that he had died.

And two, Touka is shown as priestess who represents intuition. And considering her dialogue about Kaneki coming back there could be a bigger meaning to this. Also Kaneki is labeled as Temperance which doesn't represent death, but more of a rebirth.

Though all these hints could mean nothing and that Ishida is just a troll. And we are in denial.

where do you get that touka is a priestess and it's meaning? same with kaneki

Sep 12, 2014 8:33 PM

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RIP KANEKI

Sword in hand, a warrior clutches stone to breast. In sword etched he his fading memories In stone, his tempered skill By sword attested, by stone revealed. Their tale can now be told

Sep 12, 2014 8:37 PM

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[/quote]where do you get that touka is a priestess and it's meaning? same with kaneki[/quote]

See Ishida loves using symbolism. In the beginning of chapter 140 you see the number 2 on Touka which is Priestess and number 14 for Kaneki which is Temperance. There are some for other characters too if you look closely. And all have a specific meaning to the tarot cards.

Sep 12, 2014 8:48 PM

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While it's obvious there's going to be a sequel, the real question is whether or not we're getting a new protagonist...

I really hope not.
"Hey author! Do an ass-pull and bring Ken back to life this instant!!!! "

(>'_')>#
~Here's a waffle, please calm down...

"See that? She's cute and popular. You could say that her milkshakes bring all the boys to the yard. But YOU club President... your milkshakes are wasted on you. In other words, you're wasteful." ~D-Frag (Best.Reference.Ever.)

Sep 12, 2014 8:50 PM

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Amon is definitely alive i mean there are just too many things that point to it and well his death wasn't even shown. But I do believe kaneki is dead.

Sep 12, 2014 8:50 PM

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- I would call it a shaky conclusion, lots of answers unsolved but it did a finale that wasn't too terrible.
- So Uta, Itori, and her group of ghouls caused the Rize Incident and were in cohoots with the doctor? If that's the case... WTF
- Yoshimura captured by her daughter and is also in cohoots with the doctor. WE STILL DON'T KNOW AOGIREE TREE'S FULL OBJECTIVE EITHER. Is it just to produce as many ghouls as possible or the strongest??
- Sequel Ideas? Kaneki somehow survived but won't appear in the sequel for a while to make a grand re-entrance? I've also been hearing CCG perspective story which is a creative idea, but it was a grand emotional roller coaster for Kaneki's story.
- Deadman Wonderland Ending >Guilty Crown Ending>Tokyo Ghoul Ending

Sep 12, 2014 8:51 PM

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TonyC1994 said:
While it's obvious there's going to be a sequel, the real question is whether or not we're getting a new protagonist...

I really hope not.
"Hey author! Do an ass-pull and bring Ken back to life this instant!!!! "

for once i do really wish for an ass-pull... kaneki doesn't deserve to go out like this HE JUST CANT!!idk... maybe instead of killing him they just captured him -_-

Sep 12, 2014 8:58 PM

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God...i'm crying right now....Naze da? Why must it end? It can't end like this! I demand a sequel immediately. How can it just end like this? Uta was part of the Pierrots, Kaneki was erased, Touka is waiting for him!! How can it end like this?

Sep 12, 2014 9:00 PM

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Cunning said:

TonyC1994 said:
While it's obvious there's going to be a sequel, the real question is whether or not we're getting a new protagonist...

I really hope not.
"Hey author! Do an ass-pull and bring Ken back to life this instant!!!! "

for once i do really wish for an ass-pull... kaneki doesn't deserve to go out like this HE JUST CANT!!idk... maybe instead of killing him they just captured him -_-

See the thing I don't like was how he was squashed like bug in the fuckin sewers. Like there's so much more to his character. It felt like it was the beginning for Kaneki especially when he accepted himself. Like if Ishida does make a sequel with a new MC I just can't see it topping Kaneki's character. Kaneki's one of the reasons why this manga is so brilliant. And just to toss that out is a waste.

I just want to believe in Touka right now, please be right. Your my only hope.

Sep 12, 2014 9:12 PM

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The is feels like another cage of eden, I'm kinda conflicted here, I have it on my favorite list, but now I don't think it belongs there anymore, too many unanswered question, horrible ending. Claymore will be also ending without explaining a lot of things. sigh..

I'm going to keep this series on my favorite list and wait to hear what announcement will happen next month, I'm praying it will be a sequel, but anyways this ending is disappointing. Score drop sadly....

Edit: Remove from favorite list until further notice....

Sep 12, 2014 9:18 PM

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Sigh, my emotional plight continues. Accurate chapter title tho- every page is punishment.
Such a trying day for those that favored both Uta and Kaneki fucking hell.

The beginning and the seeming end of Kaneki downfall has been accomplished but at the price of leaving so much vagueness behind and plenty of things that need answers.
K-Kaneki. I feel for Kaneki, he went through so, so much. I cannot articulate my thoughts about him.

Tsukiyama, this guy, this guy. The more I look at him the more he looks like a helpless baby animal.
I jokingly mentioned that he would become the new MC and actually not all hope is lost for this to happen. Tokyo Ghoul 2: Gourmet's Revenge. Magnifique!
Touka is waiting for Kaneki's return but I can't forget that she was such a shit to him the last time she saw him.
Arima? Rize? Renji? Takatsuki? Yoshimura? Kanou?
Sequel where and do I even truly want it?

On the brighter side of things... holy crap at Juuzou during that bit with Sinohara talk about progress.

Uhhhhh btw thanks Ishida for the gratuitous tattoo exposure & overall shirtlessness but THE COST FOR THAT IMAGE IS TOO DAMN HIGH.
If that was the case you could have kept the clothes on and that revelation to yourself.
The whole licking eyeball thing went from quirky as fuck to simply what the fuck, considering that the last time we saw Kaneki his eyes were empty sockets...

.NOPE

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parfaited said:
Sigh, my emotional plight continues. Accurate chapter title tho- every page is punishment.
Such a trying day for those that favored both Uta and Kaneki fucking hell.

The beginning and the seeming end of Kaneki downfall has been accomplished but at the price of leaving so much vagueness behind and plenty of things that need answers.
K-Kaneki. I feel for Kaneki, he went through so, so much. I cannot articulate my thoughts about him.

Tsukiyama, this guy, this guy. The more I look at him the more he looks like a helpless baby animal.
I jokingly mentioned that he would become the new MC and actually not all hope is lost for this to happen. Tokyo Ghoul 2: Gourmet's Revenge. Magnifique!
Touka is waiting for Kaneki's return but I can't forget that she was such a shit to him the last time she saw him.
Arima? Rize? Renji? Takatsuki? Yoshimura? Kanou?
Sequel where and do I even truly want it?

On the brighter side of things... holy crap at Juuzou during that bit with Sinohara talk about progress.

Uhhhhh btw thanks Ishida for the gratuitous tattoo exposure & overall shirtlessness but THE COST FOR THAT IMAGE IS TOO DAMN HIGH.
If that was the case you could have kept the clothes on and that revelation to yourself.
The whole licking eyeball thing went from quirky as fuck to simply what the fuck, considering that the last time we saw Kaneki his eyes were empty sockets...

.NOPE

I feel ya brother. Every Kaneki fan has been stabbed in the gut by the troll known as Ishida.

Sep 12, 2014 9:35 PM

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I've never been so frickin upset over a manga ending before,but with all those loose ends who wouldn't? There better be a sequel or I'll never trust again.

The one thing I had been waiting for was the moment Kaneki finally told Amon his story, but... for both of them to be dead is something I refuse to believe. Kaneki is no doubt one of my all time favorite characters, for his story end so abruptly seriously upsets me.
Hide missing really worries me though, seems like he really was eaten by Kaneki and their reunion was something else I had been looking forward to too.

I knew Itori was not to be trusted being all buddy buddy with Nico, but Uta? Jeez, that one really did took me by surprise. Didn't think there'd be a character worse than Tsukiyama, but there he is! It's Uta.

Juuzo's character development nearly brought me to tears, to think I actually disliked him in the beginning, but I'm really rooting for him in the end.
Just...This manga was my all time favorite until that last chapter happened...I truly am praying for that sequel.

Sep 12, 2014 9:37 PM

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The full armored quinque Shinohara used was eating him, meaning the ghouls are still alive after being turned into a quinque, Kaneki will have to eat someone and revive, it's the ghoul organs in general or maybe just Rize's :)

I think the author just needs a break.

Sep 12, 2014 9:39 PM

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Stark700 said:

Tyrel said:

Still one chapter to go. Anything can happen.

This is the end :/
http://myanimelist.net/manga/33327/Tokyo_Ghoul/moreinfo

MAL counts them as an additional chapter.

Lame...

Sep 12, 2014 9:43 PM

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You know there's something I don't understand. Like what was the reason for Arima getting a cut on his cheek in the sewers.

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