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Aug 30, 2014 2:52 AM
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When striking a bargain, the trick is to show them how calm yet crazy you are.



So I've been hearing criticism of this character long enough to wonder what made him so unfavorable among the likes of Hisoka, and Chrollo. Most claims are that he is generic and/or weak compared to the rest. That he is a standard cold-hearted killer with no redeeming characteristics, but... Is that really generic/bad in and of itself?

Let's first compare the facts with other villains.
1- Genthru starred in one arc, and shared the antagonist spot with Razor.
2- He was defeated by a character. Gon, no less, therefore making him much weaker than other villains in terms of strength.
3- Genthru has dealt the most number of casualties to known characters.

As for the first two points, I really liked the idea of introducing a weaker villain after so mahy strong ones.
One, for breaking the convention that the next serious threat has to be vastly superior to the last.
Two, for being realistic, by showing Gon beating someone of similar strength, someone who simply had more experience, and by stating that Genthru was still a better fighter even after losing, and that "Gon only won because of the plan", it establishes that just because you beat someone, does not make you get a rank-up, fodderizing the villain in the process ans throwing him into the not-a-threat zone.
Three, this made him feel like a very serious threat, even moreso than the other villains Gon faced.
If Gon simply beat characters much stronger than he was, without sufficient explanation, then any threat he faces after would be a no-problem. We'd just know he'll come out on top.
But here, we are made to think "well, introducing a weaker villain means they have no plans of having Gon beat folk like Hisoka anytime soon (by then)", which personally was reassuring to me, and in turn made me realize that going head to head with the bomber might wind up being brutal. Which it did (much of that later).

The third point, is he really bad for being the kiler he was intended to be? I don't think so.

So far, I've talked about what makes Genthru a great character by what he's established for the series, but let's talk about him personally:


Genthru was a very cunning, ruthless and repulsive character, he tricked one of the biggest groups in the Game into doing his bidding. Killing them afterward, in a most horrible way, so that they would not come after him (it's sad that people think he simply did it because "evil"). -- which Abengane has actually done.
What he did with graceful dice, forcing another to test out the dice for them so that he wouldn't suffer the reprecussions, really establishes how cautious and clever he is.
And that's not his one moment.

The trio fooling Tsezzguerra's group, which has proven to be quite experienced, and him immediately realizing that Gon knows that he is the bomber, jeoprodizing their initial plan easily, shows how much an expert he was.

But he was no coward either, he was willing to make the sacrifice of testing the die after he realjzed it has to be done by them. When push comes to shove, he willingly comes out of hiding and has no problem with wrecking shit up (or getting wrecked in the process).


This in turn, put a lot of pressure on Gon: Whatever Genthru did, Gon had to do better. Whatever Genthru was, Gon had to be worse.

Gon had to keep up with the bomber at every move, who easily kept shrugged off the attempts. There was no way Gon could win conventionally, by speed or strength, by experience or tricks. Genthru had read the entire book. Only thing that kept Gon alive was the fact that the opponent needed to break him to extract something.

This was very much a callback to Gon's fight with Hanzo, the difference was that, sure enough, you cannot sway a psychopath into being on your side. It also characterizes Gon as someone whose attitude would change depending on who he is dealing with.

Gon's only solution was to think completely outside the box, something at which he proved to be quite adept.
On three occasions, actually, with the arms situation, the gasoline, and the giant rock.
The former two cost him an arm and a windpipe.

I mentioned that Gon also had to be worse, but I'd argue that inately, he'd already been.
Gon had to do something that would be described as self-destructive, all because he is too proud and tok stubbirn to lose on his own terms. "Victory has to be absolute." Something that was established since the start of the series, and continually so until even right before the fight, during the dodgeball match.
Genthru, a psychopath himself, had to comment on how insane Gon was, which I think is a great way to estsblish how real this trait is.

And so, that's why I think Genthru, the bomber, is a really great villain of Hunter x Hunter, and one of the best in anime in general.

I'm sorry for the really long post, I just had to express why I liked this character so much.
Feel free to discuss his character further!
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Aug 30, 2014 4:35 AM
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Ehh... I consider GI as an arc which focused solely on Killua, Gon, and their relationship, so I didn't really think of any of the antagonists in the arc as 'deep' or 'profound.' Rather, they're of the sort you'd find in a cheap video game or a child's fantasy: simple, of black and white morality, etc. They serve as a plain but entertaining backdrop to the arc's real spotlight.

But I do agree about Gon's characterization. It's been shown clearly throughout the series that he's a headstrong guy who acts first and thinks later. I wouldn't say that he's worse than Genthru, though. That seems too harsh. A tad more insane, maybe.
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Personally, I didn't think highly of Genthru as a villain nor did I think he's the worst. It must be because of the arc itself, which was more focused with the clues in finding(more of getting to know) Ging(by playing the game) and Gon & Killua's training with Biscuit.
However yeah, Genthru's obviously weaker when compared to the likes of Hisoka and Chrollo. But I really think that's no big deal at all.
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...introducing a weaker villain means they have no plans of having Gon beat folk like Hisoka anytime soon (by then).

Agree this ^. Genthru already played his role very well imo. A stepping stone in Gon's growth. More than that, Gon gained something in their fight: experience. And I think that's enough considering how lighthearted the arc was, compared to the previous and the next.

Also, Gon needed a win too. :D
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Personally, I didn't think highly of Genthru as a villain nor did I think he's the worst. It must be because of the arc itself, which was more focused with the clues in finding(more of getting to know) Ging(by playing the game) and Gon & Killua's training with Biscuit.
However yeah, Genthru's obviously weaker when compared to the likes of Hisoka and Chrollo. But I really think that's no big deal at all.
Grunbeld said:

...introducing a weaker villain means they have no plans of having Gon beat folk like Hisoka anytime soon (by then).

Agree this ^. Genthru already played his role very well imo. A stepping stone in Gon's growth. More than that, Gon gained something in their fight: experience. And I think that's enough considering how lighthearted the arc was, compared to the previous and the next.

Also, Gon needed a win too. :D


That's what I'm trying to discuss, people didn't think higly of him because of his subtlety that his character's traits were lost on some or simplified, rather than being a case of lacking it.
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Aug 31, 2014 2:52 PM
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Not really. It's just that at this point every other featured villain is leagues above him.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

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In terms of strength, sure, but not in writing. I mean he had much less screentime than Hisoka but was more and better fleshed out despite that.
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Such blasphemy. I was not talking in terms of strength either.

You can have all the amount of fleshing out in the world, but if the character you're writing about is not compelling enough, then none of it will matter in the end. You don't just evaluate characters's worth on the "amount of fleshing out" or "amount of development" they recieve comparatively to one another. You can have a man or woman who remains shrouded in mystery for most of the show but whose appearances the viewers/readers will keep craving for more, simply because the writer managed to write them as captivating and/or memorable (someone like Char from 0079 comes to mind).
Character writing is not a simplistic, mechanical task where you can be content with shitting lines and lines about who your character is and just calling it good writing. There has to be this little je ne sais quoi that will make the character click with the viewer/reader, something that while draw and keep their attention, which is especially true for antagonists or villains (temporary, recurring or otherwise).

This is where the difference lies between a good villain and a great villain, and what ultimately sets Hisoka apart from the likes of Genthru.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Je ne sais what?

I'd rather have a fleshing out than a.... Gimmick to make them click.
Yeah but I don't see how he is not compelling, he made a bigger threat with a lesser strength, and made a much more exciting match, and that's saying a lot since Gon vs Hisoka was great to begin with.
Even without any boners I found Chrollo and and Genthru to be particularly more "thrilling" than say Hisoka or Pouf who had some eccentric behaviors to be identified with.
It doesn't mean they had no charisma.

Also, I disagree about not being able to evaluate a character on fleshing out, it can be very helpful, look at Meruem. I certainly like him more than if he were the same as he was after birth for like... 40 episodes.
I'm talking about good fleshing/dev in particular, not... any fleshing out, which I explained in my OP.


Edit: All complaints about him so far are about how people just simply didn't like him as much as other villains, which I already addressed, whilst trying to move past it to discussing his character by itself as it is, regardless of the "coolness", screentime or popularity he had.
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I'm not talking about a gimmick either. And while I do have my bias towards fabulous men, I know how to appreciate other types of characters that don't necessarily rely on particular quirks or gimmicks to be interesting. I did find Chrollo, and most of the Phantom Troupe members to be more interesting than Genthru, for example.

I don't think the "level of threat" an antagonist poses is decisive in determining how compelling they are. And of course Genthru would make a bigger threat than Hisoka, considering he, unlike a certain pedo clown, had never planned on keeping Gon alive if the refused to cooperate. I guess which fight one prefers ultimately comes down to preferences, cause to me Hisoka v. Gon wins by a large margin.

About fleshing out/development, I stand by my point that you can't evaluate different characters' worth by the quantity of fleshing out or development they recieve, because not every character is meant to be written the same nor to have the same function within the story. If we take Meruem for example, in order for CA to work an arc and successfully deliver its message, he was meant go through a dramatic amount of development.
in YS, none of the Phantom Troupe members had to meet the same requirements. They perfectly worked as static yet compelling villains, with little to no amount of fleshing out for most of them.

I guess in the end it just all comes down to him being overall a not-so-remarkable villain in a ocean of ultra charismatic ones.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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I don't think he's particularly over or underrated, he's just kinda there. He did his job of presenting a threat to the main characters well enough and his fight with Gon was very good, but as a character he's not very memorable or compelling. I'm not sure anyone would be losing their minds if he ever made another appearance in the story. Meanwhile, a character like Chrollo appearing again would certainly make quite an impression. I guess you could say Genthru has little to none "stage presence".
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I don't think he's particularly over or underrated, he's just kinda there. He did his job of presenting a threat to the main characters well enough and his fight with Gon was very good, but as a character he's not very memorable or compelling. I'm not sure anyone would be losing their minds if he ever made another appearance in the story. Meanwhile, a character like Chrollo appearing again would certainly make quite an impression. I guess you could say Genthru has little to none "stage presence".


That's literally hype. And most of it is simply because he had no bigger role spread over arcs.


Sapew,
I never said quantity necessarily means they are good. I wrote all the above to discuss its quality, but even that gets overlooked simply because of the small role he got.

I'm not saying he's good just because he was fleshes, I'm saying he's good because how he was fleshed out was actually good, but since it was subtle, few got to appreciate it.

The troupe had a lot of fleshing out and a lot of dynamics too. Not changing dramatically == static.

So in summary, even if he didn't happen to be the best antagonist in the show, he's still one one of the best in shonen overall. I mean many villains follow the same formula yet fail to be threatening. (Which I disagree that it's unimportant. I'd rather have a fight vs a small threat that gives me goosebumps than a fight against say, someone who can blow planets, and find myself hoping the explosions would go away)
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didnt really like him


Yeah, he kinda sucked. Then again, HxH villains are best in groups.
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Whoever that guy is, he's a hero.
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Even a pink man eating panda is more based than Genthru.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Genthru is alright, I agree with YucchinZoldyck that he served his purpose and that's really it. You could argue that the other, better, antagonists like Meruem and the PT had arcs focused around them and thus they have an advantage. But, the truth is that I at least don't think Genthru would have been nearly as interesting to follow. Everything about him is fairly dull to me, his power, his look, his motivation, etc. One thing I did like about him is his willingness to put his two allies before him at the end of the arc, it added a pretty nice dimension to him. But even that type of "loyalty" was better explored through the Troupe and Royal Guard, I think.

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Even a pink man eating panda is more based than Genthru.


Pink Panda is actually a pretty interesting dude, imo.
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Sapewloth said:
Even a pink man eating panda is more based than Genthru.


Pink Panda is actually a pretty interesting dude, imo.
The koala will have his time to shine in an upcoming episode.

OT: I liked genthru.
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Problem with Genthru is that he never really felt like a threat, since you..

A. Have Bisky on standby the entire ark. I don't think it was ever in question that Bisky was more powerful, experienced, and wiser in combat than Genthru, so the situation never felt dire. What's a villain, if he doesn't pose a threat to the protagonists?

B. The Bombers were just a pain in the ass, but really had no connection to anything other than wanting to win the game. Razor was not only a larger threat, but had connections to the Ging and the game itself. He essentially stole the spotlight, and made those three look like chumps.

C. And lastly, you have side story going on involving The Spiders and Hisoka.. so when you wrap up all these beefy characters, Genthru and the gang just seem lame and insignificant.







HOWEVER, while Genthru is totally lametastic, I did enjoy The Bombers involvement in the ark. But as characters, all 3 are forgettable.
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Grunbeld said:
The troupe had a lot of fleshing out and a lot of dynamics too. Not changing dramatically == static.
I said most of them, not all of them.

And nope, some might have had some fleshing out, but none of them developped.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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I did enjoy The Bombers involvement in the ark. But as characters, all 3 are forgettable.


Wait....there was more than 1 bomber?!?!?
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I enjoyed the bombers, especially the time bomb ability they had. He's probably one of the worst villains of the series but that's only because you've got Chrollo, Hisoka and Meruem as his competition and that is not easy competition to beat.
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because he is just fodder antagonist as for jajaken's testing punching bag
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I didn't remember him at all when I read the headline of the thread. After a little I was like the one with the 'bombs' and it all came to me. Not my favorite. Typical villain that wants to achieve his goal no matter the cost. On the othe hand antagonists like Hisoka have sth unique sth new that we haven't seen anywhere else. In the case of Hisoka, he wants to battle opponents that he find worthy. Chrollo was the leader of Phantom Troupe a notorious gang of thieves/murderers and what more, he had an amazing power. He even fought Silva and survived. (I stay even cause he is a notorious assassin too). The guy Genthru had sth like that. He even lost to Gon.
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He's not bad, he is just nowhere near most of the other villains. Hell I'd say he's leagues above the villains in the Tower of Heaven arc.
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Genthru was good for what he was. I liked his character design, his ability was cool, and his final battle with Gon is one of the most satisfying shonen fights I've ever watched. Togashi never put in too much effort to develop Genthru beyond an evil maniac, which was perfectly fine, as he was meant to be the boss character in an arc that paid tribute to video games. Any development for Genthru would have taken away from his character and feel. He'd fine the way he is: an obstacle for the protagonist.

Development for the sake of development is not necessarily a good thing. Thankfully, Togashi understand that, and it shows through every aspect of his work.
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RedRoseFring said:
Wait....there was more than 1 bomber?!?!?
Not surprised in the least, since the anime sped through the arc. (Not to say that good ol' Sub and Bara were all too memorable, but MadHouse definitely made all three of their designs stick out in a better sense.)

Even filler may have been appreciated, instead of just doing full-force exposition (sans the narrator).
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I don't think people understand the difference between being charismatic and being flashy and... "Out there".
He was definitely charismatic, in the same way a serial killer would be, not as in "look at me I'm fabulous/cool" kind of way.
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I don't think people understand the difference between being charismatic and being flashy and... "Out there".
He was definitely charismatic, in the same way a serial killer would be, not as in "look at me I'm fabulous/cool" kind of way.
I think everyone perfectly understood you, judals-kun.

Even if you think he's charismatic, the majority (me included) just happens to believe there's an unbridgeable gap between him and the other villains in terms of charisma.
Also, being a serial killer doesn't make one charismatic.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Can someone remind me who the hell is Genthru?

I guess I've made my point.
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Dodgeball match was better than Gon vs Genthru. Razor was the arc 'villain' for me.
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Dodgeball match was better than Gon vs Genthru. Razor was the arc 'villain' for me.


They both were, and antagonist* btw.

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Mikasa said:
I don't think people understand the difference between being charismatic and being flashy and... "Out there".
He was definitely charismatic, in the same way a serial killer would be, not as in "look at me I'm fabulous/cool" kind of way.
I think everyone perfectly understood you, judals-kun.

Even if you think he's charismatic, the majority (me included) just happens to believe there's an unbridgeable gap between him and the other villains in terms of charisma.
Also, being a serial killer doesn't make one charismatic.


Majority?
Also, actually he was in a way, my point was that people have a very shonen-like perception of what being charismatic is, making it narrower and more exclusive.


Moreover, charisma is not important for a villain, just putting it out there. I think the only charismatic characters "by strict definition" in this show are Gon, Chrollo and Pariston.

I'm gonna sound coming from Greed Island to hxh fans what hxh fans sound to other fanbases: you are being too hung up on scale and scope to even look into the character.


This is not just Genthru though, many characters from other shows have been more amusing despite being weaker.
For example, Bellamy was a better villain than all the higher ups that surrounded him. He did very well in a short time, even if not grand.
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Mikasa said:

Majority?
Majority of the people who answered the thread. No need to count to see that.

Never said charisma alone made a good villain. I just answered your point about Genthru being as charismatic as the others.

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cha·ris·ma
noun kə-ˈriz-mə

: a special charm or appeal that causes people to feel attracted and excited by someone (such as a politican)

1/a personal magic of leadership arousing special popular loyalty or enthusiasm for a public figure (as a political leader)

2/a special magnetic charm or appeal


The textbook definition of charisma is indeed pretty loose, but it can apply to characters whom other characters are meant feel attracted to in the story (this category not being exactly the point of discussion, anyway, I believe) as well as characters whom the audience feels captivated by.

Imma be blunt, ultimately what you as an individual think of Genthru or of most people's perception of charism doesn't matter in the least. Nobody cares about that. All that matters is, if Genthru doesn't attract the masses, it simply means he lacks the special magic touch other villains (or other characters in general) have to do so.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Mikasa said:

Majority?
Majority of the people who answered the thread. No need to count to see that.

Never said charisma alone made a good villain. I just answered your point about Genthru being as charismatic as the others.

merriam-webster said:
cha·ris·ma
noun kə-ˈriz-mə

: a special charm or appeal that causes people to feel attracted and excited by someone (such as a politican)

1/a personal magic of leadership arousing special popular loyalty or enthusiasm for a public figure (as a political leader)

2/a special magnetic charm or appeal


The textbook definition of charisma is indeed pretty loose, but it can apply to characters whom other characters are meant feel attracted to in the story (this category not being exactly the point of discussion, anyway, I believe) as well as characters whom the audience feels captivated by.

Imma be blunt, ultimately what you as an individual think of Genthru or of most people's perception of charism doesn't matter in the least. Nobody cares about that. All that matters is, if Genthru doesn't attract the masses, it simply means he lacks the special magic touch other villains (or other characters in general) have to do so.



If I recall correctly his character was very well received.

This is called a discussion, "what you think doesn't matter" is irrelevant, this is a discussion about his character not whether you did or did not like him, or whether you are with or against what others think.
And trust me, it doesn't matter much either, these very insightful rhetorics of "I just never happened to like him" posts people make, as much as they contribute to the thread.

And no, just because he's not as popular doesn't make him not as good. I thought these popularity != quality arguments were past us by now.

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Never implied he wasn't well-recieved either. He's a good villain, after all.

Of course, it's a discussion, but when it comes to charisma, there's not much left to discuss about. Don't get me wrong, it's not about the level of popularity making the quality of the character (I never believed that), and each and everyone of us are entitled to our own opinions.
I also get where you're coming from when you say you deem Genthru to be an overall better written villain than say, Hisoka. And it would matter, if the conversation was still about the quality of writing. But it's about Genthru's charisma, and more specifically how charismatic he is to us viewerd/readers compared with other characters, right?

Charisma can be disconnected from a character's quality, as well (Onodera Punpun's writing was phenomenal for eg, but he doesn't have an ounce of charisma; Dio is the most cliché of cliché villains in history, but he's the cliché that invented the cliché and he owns it, so it just works). Many other little things come into play, like the speech patern, the dressing style, the physique, intelligence or absence of (or like you said earlier, in the case of an antogonist, how much of a threat he poses) etc.
Individually, they don't matter much, but taken as a whole, they'll, I believe, ultimately make or break a certain character's charisma.

Mikasa said:
"All that matters"
No.
Poor choice of words, my bad.

"What matters most while talking about Genthru's charisma (comparatively to other villains) is whether or not he has that appeal that allows him to draw people in. We all have our own idea of charisma, of course. But if we define it as just that (having a special charm that attracts people, then if B and A are given the same status, and for an equal amount of screen time, A manages to leave a much bigger impression on the spectators than B... Then it most likely just means that B is either lacking, or simply has less of that magnetic charm that A possesses."
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Mikasa said:

If I recall correctly his character was very well received.


I'm pretty sure he's last in almost every poll. The majority apparently thinks he sucks.
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Mikasa said:

If I recall correctly his character was very well received.


I'm pretty sure he's last in almost every poll. The majority apparently thinks he sucks.
Or just that everyone else is better than him....

Which might or might not be the exact same thing. .-.
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I'm pretty sure he's last in almost every poll. The majority apparently thinks he sucks.
Or just that everyone else is better than him....

Which might or might not be the exact same thing. .-.


It's the same thing.
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This is an interesting view I guess.


You can't base him on his fight with Gon because Genthru was an assassin, his strength lied in his ability to plant bombs unto unknowing people and then using it as a bargaining tool to get what he wanted.
He kept himself hidden and in the dark because he was hiding who he was, he wasn't meant to be a grand in your face villian because that isn't who he was. He was a cold-blooded murderer and his actions spoke louder than his words.
He killed many Hunters in the process of the game and he even did this "Genthru first appears as a member of Nickes' players alliance. He played a role as an informer and a high positioned member of the alliance for five years. It is later revealed that he has placed a time bomb on every member of the alliance"
If that isn't villian material I don't know what is. Just because there weren't fights that broke out doesn't mean he wasn't strong or smart, he was clever and used his skills to his advantage. Lulling those into a false sense of security and then quickly revealing just how screwed over they were from the beginning.
His only real fight which I think was with Gon, ended the way it did was because they knew what Genthru was capable of and when they learned his tricks it was somewhat easier to counter but you have to keep in mind. Strength isn't how well you deal in a 1v1 encounter but how you make the most of your ability.
Genthru did this by using his bombs in a sneaky manner and once he could stick you with a bomb you were as good as dead.
Because Gon knew his tricks he was able to prepare and fight accordingly but even then he lost his arm in the encounter and took a rather huge beating. He knew he had to keep his distance but that was also Gon's weakness since he was a close ranger fighter for the most part.
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Let us revisit this.

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Dodgeball match was better than Gon vs Genthru. Razor was the arc 'villain' for me.


No not really, Genthru was a bigger threat.
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I don't think people understand the difference between being charismatic and being flashy and... "Out there".
He was definitely charismatic, in the same way a serial killer would be, not as in "look at me I'm fabulous/cool" kind of way.


The only time I'd ever agree with this bit........

Yeah, Genthru is definately a fantastic villian.

There was a lil bit of star wars in what he did, palpatine's manipulating opposing forces and of course he was given the power of Kurasu one of my fav yyh villians. [togashi sux, hxh IS A yyh rip off]

Also, he kinda looks like a weaker/skinnier Alex Anderson, which is cool.

Razor was there just to test Gon. He was put there by ging for that purpose only. He wasnt a psycho killer. Well, atleast not anymore.

Genthru, on the other hand, was just a gamer. He wasnt put in there just to make gon stronger, he had his own purpose.

And after the game's over, he probably would join the hunters guild [if they have another exam later] and maybe volunteer to join gon's gang, seeing how crazy gon is too.

He's also a combo of sorts of two of my personal fav chars, so I rate him above lucifer too.

No, he probably cant take anyone down in a real fight, but hed still be fun to watch again.

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