How come pople from poor countries are usually less depressed than civilized people? Does money and higher standard of living bring depression?
After doing a thorough analisys of maps showing suicidal rates over the world, I observed people from less civilized countries suicides less. Is it because they live a chill without civilization worries, is it because they are killed so much there isn't room for suiciding? I'm more inclined to believe it is the lack of advencements that make them be so much more chill than us. Think about it, you have tons of things to worry right now, but imagine the worries you had in the stone age? Obviously I'm not saying poor countries live in the stone age, but it's just for the comparision. The more rich and developped people live in, the more depressed they become. Does this study stand correct? If anyone here works with the society scientists please go ahead and explain scientifically this fact to me. Or just give you your opinion even if you're not expert. If anyone here lives in a third world country your contribution will be good too. |
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| They are struggling to live, why would they suicide? |
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| Because we suffer from first world problems. |
| Basically I'd say they're too busy trying to survive to spare a thought about why they're alive. Too busy running away from lions to pontificate the meaning of life (or lack thereof) and sink into a suicidal depression. |
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Lice said: Yeas but logically if you're struggling to live, to eat, to piss etc why would you think less about suicide than people who live well?They are struggling to live, why would they suicide? |
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ReignSixx said: Because we suffer from first world problems.  |
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| If I lvied in a south american shithole like argentina brazil chile mexico etc I would just suicide. Seems more logical, if I lived in Norway why the hell would I kill myself? I would be grateful with god for liking me. |
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| That survey is over a decade old, and the countries in white are "no data", not zero. Those are the backwater countries that don't have a government capable of even monitoring its own people. |
Kokororin said: Lice said: Yeas but logically if you're struggling to live, to eat, to piss etc why would you think less about suicide than people who live well?They are struggling to live, why would they suicide? Why would they? They are trying to keep alive, why in the world would they think about killing themselves? Like people in some parts of Africa, they struggle to get food and survive. They WANT to live. They don't have time to have silly problems we have. |
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Lice said: That's what I'm arguing about.Kokororin said: Yeas but logically if you're struggling to live, to eat, to piss etc why would you think less about suicide than people who live well? Why would they? They are trying to keep alive, why in the world would they think about killing themselves? Like people in some parts of Africa, they struggle to get food and survive. They WANT to live. They don't have time to have silly problems we have. Why would you struggle to eat in south america instead of ending your pain? And if you live in a good place you should be grateful for not struggling in life. Killing youself when you live like kings is disrespectful with people who live in shitholes. They are the one who have the right to end their pain, not us like ungrateful idiots who kill ourselves for silly reasons while there are people starving elsewhere. SovietStrawberry said: Kokororin said: If I lvied in a south american shithole like argentina brazil chile mexico etc I would just suicide. Seems more logical, if I lived in Norway why the hell would I kill myself? I would be grateful with god for liking me. >listing countries that aren't even third world ones >norway is better than those because god will like you for living there >used the word logical I don't even... dafuq yo. Which one of those isn't third world? Are these all your arguments? |
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Kokororin said: If I lvied in a south american shithole like argentina brazil chile mexico etc I would just suicide. Seems more logical, if I lived in Norway why the hell would I kill myself? I would be grateful with god for liking me. 1.) Bruh, did you just call my motherland of South America a shithole? *downvotes* 2.) It's only "logical" because you're aware of the better alternatives. For people who live in third world countries, chances are they don't know much about a better lifestyle because they're accustomed to their poor lifestyle. And if they do, then they're more likely to work harder to live that better lifestyle instead of taking the stupid route and committing suicide just because they live in a "shithole." 3) Your God is dead. |
| We Brazilians live literally in the mud. But we are very happy. |
| 'Civilized' people, as you call them, live fast-paced lives more often than not and have higher expectations and more demands set upon them compared to poorer people. They also have more choices available to them, and constantly dealing with how to make the best choice as fast as possible can leave people anxious and pretty depressed. Living affluently means worrying about your assets and the state of your future, and increased levels of worry always lead to stress and depression. Or that's how it used to be anyway. Those statistics are pretty old though. |
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PrimeX said: ReignSixx said: Because we suffer from first world problems. This made me laugh more than I'm willing to admit. edit: grammar is hard |
kamensentai said: Well you look very happy on your forum avatar.We Brazilians live literally in the mud. But we are very happy. |
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Why wouldn't you want to live? Once you're dead it's all over. They try to survive and hope for a better tomorrow. You people take your live for granted. |
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SovietStrawberry said: You're either a troll or an idiot, why would I make "arguments" with you? This. |
| Op, you're very ignorant. Anyway, I'll try to explain my viewpoint, I'm from a "third world country", but I've been to "first world countries" too, so I've met different people and their cultures. I can tell for sure it has nothing to do with "development". I've noticed most people from "first world" countries go through bigger social pressure and unfair treats, for example: just in USA a teen goes through a huge social pressure during high school, in regards to grades and mainly in regards to social matters. The bullying is more common there and the advantages of "rich kids" is more noticeable. Another relevant thing is the parents in "first world countries" are far more demanding, no saying the parents here are not, but the percentage is lower, that's for sure. Asian parents are probably the more demanding in the world, the kids usually goes through a huge pressure to get good grades and such. The fear of failure is far bigger and so is the depression if you do it. That's just a bit of it, but as I'm saying, the main reasons are related to social pressure, it has nothing to do with development and such. And... but imagine the worries you had in the stone age? That comparison was fucking stupid, mainly because some "third world countries" are more open minded and civilized than most "first world countries". At least they don't kill muslims, just saying :P |
Jaguer91Aug 29, 2014 6:03 PM
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ReignSixx said: I wish you and the other infractor would be less disrespectful as I don't want to call team autism to deal with you two.SovietStrawberry said: You're either a troll or an idiot, why would I make "arguments" with you? This. Lice said: And civilized people can't want to live? Life isn't over once civilized people suicide?Why wouldn't you want to live? Once you're dead it's all over. They try to survive and hope for a better tomorrow. You people take your live for granted. What's up with this logic? |
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Kokororin said: They are people who take their life for granted, just let them die.Lice said: And civilized people can't want to live? Life isn't over once civilized people suicide?Why wouldn't you want to live? Once you're dead it's all over. They try to survive and hope for a better tomorrow. You people take your live for granted. What's up with this logic? |
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| [quote=Kokororin] ReignSixx said: I wish you and the other infractor would be less disrespectful as I don't want to call team autism to deal with you two.SovietStrawberry said: You're either a troll or an idiot, why would I make "arguments" with you? This. *Looks at profile*  *sees age* Oh okay, false alarm. She's a 10 year old. She can't know any better. |
Jaguer91 said: This.Op, you're a very ignorant. Anyway, I'll try to explain my viewpoint, I'm from a "third world country", but I've been to "first world countries" too, so I've met different people and their cultures. I can tell for sure it has nothing to do with "development". I've noticed most people from "first world" countries go through bigger social pressure and unfair treats, for example: just in USA a teen goes through a huge social pressure during high school, in regards to grades and mainly in regards to social matters. The bullying is more common there and the advantages of "rich kids" is more noticeable. Another relevant thing is the parents in "first world countries" are far more demanding, no saying the parents here are not, but the percentage is lower, that's for sure. Asian parents are probably the more demanding in the world, the kids usually goes through a huge pressure to get good grades and such. The fear of failure is far bigger and so is the depression if you do it. That's just a bit of it, but as I'm saying, the main reasons are related to social pressure, it has nothing to do with development and such. And... but imagine the worries you had in the stone age? That comparison was fucking stupid, mainly because some "third world countries" are more open minded and civilized than most "first world countries". At least they don't kill muslims, just saying :P |
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| Why not show the recent study instead of a decade old and irrelevant information? Suicide rates by country according to the World Health Organization circa 2011 It clearly contradicts the point that you're trying to make. |
| Well think it like this, you live in castle and the only worry you have is politic duties, otherwise you live in luxury but you decide to suicide for minimal problems. Meanwhile some black kid in south america lives in semi-starvment 24/7 but struggles to keep living. What's that inverted logic? Jaguer91 said: Op, you're a very ignorant. Anyway, I'll try to explain my viewpoint, I'm from a "third world country", but I've been to "first world countries" too, so I've met different people and their cultures. I can tell for sure it has nothing to do with "development". I've noticed most people from "first world" countries go through bigger social pressure and unfair treats, for example: just in USA a teen goes through a huge social pressure during high school, in regards to grades and mainly in regards to social matters. The bullying is more common there and the advantages of "rich kids" is more noticeable. Another relevant thing is the parents in "first world countries" are far more demanding, no saying the parents here are not, but the percentage is lower, that's for sure. Asian parents are probably the more demanding in the world, the kids usually goes through a huge pressure to get good grades and such. The fear of failure is far bigger and so is the depression if you do it. That's just a bit of it, but as I'm saying, the main reasons are related to social pressure, it has nothing to do with development and such. And... but imagine the worries you had in the stone age? That comparison was fucking stupid, mainly because some "third world countries" are more open minded and civilized than most "first world countries". At least they don't kill muslims, just saying :P Finally, more underdeveloped countries input. Well thanks for enlightening me, I get that the problem is with pesky problems, but the fact it happens all in poor countries vs rich countries look too much like a coincidence. Why is it that in poor countries people can't have pressure of their parents? And why would beeing under pressure justify you killing yourself? because some "third world countries" are more open minded and civilized than most "first world countries". At least they don't kill muslims, just saying :P What? If most third world countries were more civilized than first world countries they wouldn't be living in the mud.Regardless of that, to be honest I've come into terms that the only way for me to know exactly is traveling to south america myself. I'v been learning spanish as of late since I'm planing to travel to brazil (olimpics are coming up in the next years too). I still don't think anything could justify killing yourself for minimal problems while living in the dream land of undercivilized people. |
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html said: Just saw that, now what?Why not show the recent study instead of a decade old and irrelevant information? Suicide rates by country according to the World Health Organization circa 2011 It clearly contradicts the point that you're trying to make. Europe Japan an autralia are clearly still suicidal, meanwhile third world countries like america and chile are green. |
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Kokororin said: >Americahtml said: Just saw that, now what?Why not show the recent study instead of a decade old and irrelevant information? Suicide rates by country according to the World Health Organization circa 2011 It clearly contradicts the point that you're trying to make. Europe is clearly still suicidal, meanwhile third world countries like america and chile and japa and australia are green. >Third World Country Somebodies mad their mud house got bombed to shit. |
Kokororin said: I've been learning spanish as of late since I'm planing to travel to brazil Lol, can't take you seriously anymore, dude. |
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Kokororin said: If your point on making this thread is to show how much of an idiot you are, then you've succeeded OP.html said: Just saw that, now what?Why not show the recent study instead of a decade old and irrelevant information? Suicide rates by country according to the World Health Organization circa 2011 It clearly contradicts the point that you're trying to make. Europe Japan an autralia are clearly still suicidal, meanwhile third world countries like america and chile are green. |
Jaguer91 said: Oh I should travel to allmighty Argentina instead?Kokororin said: I've been learning spanish as of late since I'm planing to travel to brazil Lol, can't take you seriously anymore, dude. Please take your internal rivalries to another thread, the matter here is a different one. |
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| I think suicide rates have more to do with culture than with how depressed people are. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Because its hard to commit suicide when you were already killed by malaria. |
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ElectricPrune said: Jaguer91 said: Lol, can't take you seriously anymore, dude. Lol indeed, but doesn't like 20% of Brazilians actually speak Spanish in addition to Portuguese? They should, but most brazilians don't really learn spanish, mainly because both languages are similar and understandable for each other. Kokororin said: Please take your internal rivalries to another thread, the matter here is a different one. Did you even understand what I said? |
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Jaguer91 said: Yes, did you?Kokororin said: Please take your internal rivalries to another thread, the matter here is a different one. Did you even understand what I said? |
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SovietStrawberry said: That too. Nicely explains a countries like China.Josh-i said: Culture is depressing.I think suicide rates have more to do with culture than with how depressed people are. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
SovietStrawberry said: It's very easy, I'd just play games till I pass out and then I'd eventually die.AnarchicSloth said: Starvation is free.~No. They're just too poor to afford methods of killing themselves. No but I reckon that's probably one of the most challenging ways to try and off yourself. |
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| The more comfortable your life is, the less it takes to make you depressed. If you've never experienced real misery, then trivial first-world problems can affect your mood very easily. |
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