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Aug 29, 2014 9:34 AM

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Overpowered characters are fun as hell. Let the slaughter begin.
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Aug 29, 2014 10:05 AM

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silversaint said:
they are boring for the most part an their fights lack any sense of danger or excitement

Akito_Kinomoto said:
I don't hate OP characters. Look at Yang from LoGH or Mikoto from Railgun.


in the end Yang wasnt OP

I mean he was intellectually OP which is what really mattered for the show. Oscar would kick everyone's ass in CQC though.

Even Schenkopp.

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Aug 29, 2014 10:12 AM

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Light is OP but deathnote still good because the rival is OP too
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Aug 29, 2014 10:24 AM

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The only good OP MC I've seen is Alucard in Hellsing Ultimate
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Aug 29, 2014 10:24 AM

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i watch anime to watch characters burn and i can't do that when the characters are OP
Aug 29, 2014 11:09 AM

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OP characters aren't flawed and characters without flaws are dull and boring.
Aug 29, 2014 11:26 AM
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No i do not, in fact i like them to be OP.
There should be a reason that they are a main character and i think that being OP works as a reason.
However i do like to state that i do not like OP dumb characters who basically is the one who wins everyone just because of a natural gift they have (aka powers that you're born with and such) but is like stupid as hell,i like to watch OP characters who is OP because of themselves. (Excellent thinkers and strategical geniuses)
Aug 29, 2014 11:41 AM

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Well, my thoughts are that it doesn't matter if the character is OP, but there are certain exceptions. If a author uses overpowered characters to support a plot point or send a message, then they can go right ahead. If it's use for showing off characters that was recently introduced or have changed, then it's okay, but if the authors constantly try to show them off with absolutely nothing to show behind that power, the character just becomes annoying.
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Aug 29, 2014 11:44 AM
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OP characters are only a problem if they are dull or pull shit out of their ass 24/7.
Aug 29, 2014 11:57 AM

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Gamers are better people than Anime watchers. It seems to me that the OP hasn't posted on Bioware social network before. Lots of people complained about Shepard being too strong.
Aug 29, 2014 11:58 AM

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Nidhoeggr said:
Strange, because most people I know irl vastly prefer the phase where you build the character to the phase where you are overpowered as hell. Acooriding to them - and me - it gets really boring when you can do anything with almost no difficulty.
Then again, most new Bioware games are more about pandering to people who think of them as a relationship simulator than to people who prefer good RPGs. Play some good games like Planescape Torment or Baldur's Gate instead.

I like Dragon Age origins and Divinity original sin but I can't get into Baldur's gate or Planescape torment because they feel too old. I'll try the Baldur's gate enhanced edition though.
Aug 29, 2014 12:19 PM

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Skipped everything but I'm saying that Over Powered main characters tend to have NO development and normally have ass pulls. I get it the first few times but then it gets repetitive, annoying and boring seeing someone win every fight.
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Aug 29, 2014 12:24 PM

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Mikatarukito said:
Over Powered main characters tend to have NO development.

This and they also have a tendency to be hell annoying. By saying things like 'oh if I don't get this right (which you are obviously going to do) the world will collide'.
These are just trying to increase the tension but their very character screws it all up.

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Aug 29, 2014 1:27 PM

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Because it's more awarding to see a character lose, train and then finally win.
Aug 29, 2014 8:56 PM

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I don't care either way, but...
OP characters are no fun at all.
Aug 29, 2014 9:08 PM

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If I do watch an anime with an OP character usually my favorite character ends up getting killed.

A lot of people's favorite characters are OP, if any of my favorite characters went up against the average favorite character they would be dead in a few minutes.

but pure luck and the power of friendship would save them.
Aug 29, 2014 11:01 PM

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I don't necessarily hate them but it does irritate me that u already know that they are gonna win.
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Aug 29, 2014 11:22 PM

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Why I hate them?
Because they can end their fights like, 5 seconds. Where's the fun in that?
Aug 29, 2014 11:34 PM
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Kay_Lite said:
Why I hate them?
Because they can end their fights like, 5 seconds. Where's the fun in that?
5 second fight > 3 episode fight
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Aug 29, 2014 11:40 PM

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Kenshin's master in Ruroni Kenshin is a good example of making an OP character. Make him neutral.
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Aug 30, 2014 12:14 AM

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It really depends on how its done to be honest. I like some OP characters and hate some as well.
Aug 30, 2014 1:07 AM

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I think what OP meant is "OP protagonist". I mean, we still have captain Aizen, don't we?

Maybe the problem is the characterization rather than 'ass-pull-ness'. Onii-sama is much more bearable because... look at him! Gentlemanly, suave and swag .Put the OP-ness on him, and you have a perfect & likeable Gary Stu. Even if you don't like him, you still can like him ironically.

How about Kirito? You know what? He is no different than that silver crow from Accel World. Gloomy teenage edgelord! His characterization is very close towards one of the 'bullied kids' who likes hearing Linkin Park song for whatever reason. Long story short: Too much negativity & No fun at all.

Long story short, I'm agree with:
OriginANIME said:
It really depends on how its done to be honest. I like some OP characters and hate some as well.
Aug 30, 2014 1:10 AM
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It's not about being OP. It's about if the character is good or not.

Kenshiro from Fist of the north star is OP as hell. Yet he is a good character.

Someone like Tatsuya is also OP but is just a poorly written self-insert character.

Most likely being OP is just another thing people throw into the mix, when complaining about a bad character.
Aug 30, 2014 1:13 AM

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Saandro said:
It's not about being OP. It's about if the character is good or not.

Kenshiro from Fist of the north star is OP as hell. Yet he is a good character.

Someone like Tatsuya is also OP but is just a poorly written self-insert character.

Most likely being OP is just another thing people throw into the mix, when complaining about a bad character.


But even if the character is good, people might still dislike the MC for being OP because it means that the plot is more predictable.
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Aug 30, 2014 1:19 AM
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Because they remove tension from the show, and are rarely relatable.
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Aug 30, 2014 4:03 AM

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OP characters are ok as long as there are OP villains.
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Aug 30, 2014 4:14 AM

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but still, winning because he's OP is better than winning because he did an asspull.
Aug 30, 2014 4:22 AM

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OP is only acceptable when it's Godpachi.
Aug 30, 2014 4:36 AM

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I didn't hate OP, i hate Gary Stu. No, i actually didn't hate Gary Stu, i hate boring character and plot which is mostly unable to avoid from a Gary Stu character and story(reference : Twilight Saga)

I like Accelerator even though he is kinda God-Mode Sue.
But Kirito is a big NO.
Aug 30, 2014 4:47 AM

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Aug 30, 2014 4:47 AM

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Ryukatsuka said:
OP is only acceptable when it's Godpachi.

Godpachi is Kenpachi? but he's not OP, he's on a level above OP. :3
Aug 30, 2014 4:50 AM

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tr1ckst3r said:
Ryukatsuka said:
OP is only acceptable when it's Godpachi.

Godpachi is Kenpachi? but he's not OP, he's on a level above OP. :3
But Godpachi lost off screen and he also lost to girls(they are ganging up on him though).
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Aug 30, 2014 5:08 AM

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tr1ckst3r said:
Ryukatsuka said:
OP is only acceptable when it's Godpachi.

Godpachi is Kenpachi? but he's not OP, he's on a level above OP. :3

You're right. My bad. I shouldn't have labelled him with such a mortal term :P

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But Godpachi lost off screen and he also lost to girls(they are ganging up on him though).

Aug 30, 2014 6:13 AM

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Because it turns into a matter of - 'You can't defeat me! I'm the protagonist!'
Aug 30, 2014 8:30 PM

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allflying said:
I think what OP meant is "OP protagonist". I mean, we still have captain Aizen, don't we?

Maybe the problem is the characterization rather than 'ass-pull-ness'. Onii-sama is much more bearable because... look at him! Gentlemanly, suave and swag .Put the OP-ness on him, and you have a perfect & likeable Gary Stu. Even if you don't like him, you still can like him ironically.

How about Kirito? You know what? He is no different than that silver crow from Accel World. Gloomy teenage edgelord! His characterization is very close towards one of the 'bullied kids' who likes hearing Linkin Park song for whatever reason. Long story short: Too much negativity & No fun at all.

Long story short, I'm agree with:
OriginANIME said:
It really depends on how its done to be honest. I like some OP characters and hate some as well.
Funny you should say that. Watching Mahouka is actually what made me realise everything that Kawahara did right with Kirito's characterisation.

You see, Kirito is ridiculously overpowered and has plenty of Gary Stu moments in the game. But when it comes to Kazuto, the actual person behind the character, he's portrayed as a normal human being who exhibits weakness, has very flawed ideals and actually reacts to things like normal people would in his situation.

Sure it's not much to boast about. But when it comes to Tatsuya he's always the one to win the battle, never even shows a hint of weakness and is always the smartest guy in the room and the voice of reason on every single occasion.

Kirito I can like ironically during his Gary Stu moments. Tatsuya is just boring. I much prefer to use him as an example of how creatively bankrupt anime can get.
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lol, Kirito is barely OP in the first half of season (too many battles where he lost/was saved) one and still needs Kayaba to save him in the 2nd half.
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Shiba Tatsuya is the worst OP main character I ever seen. He just perfect in everything he does.

Tatsuya is worse than Kirito.
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But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

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Aug 30, 2014 8:39 PM

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Ryukatsuka said:
OP is only acceptable when it's Godpachi.
You mean Cheatpachi, right?
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Aug 30, 2014 8:46 PM

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Sapewloth said:
Ryukatsuka said:
OP is only acceptable when it's Godpachi.
You mean Cheatpachi, right?

No.
Aug 30, 2014 9:10 PM

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Saandro said:
It's not about being OP. It's about if the character is good or not.

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Chibi-Alice said:
Because it's more awarding to see a character lose, train and then finally win.


In 12 episodes? That means the story and everything else is relegated to oblivion...
Mar 22, 2021 4:45 PM

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I don't hate OP characters, it depends how they are done.

If it's a power where they can't possibly lose and they are the MC, then yes, I have no praise for such an arrangement. Subaru is a perfect example of this: this guy effectively has infinite redos of any scenario so his "handicap" of being dumb actually serves as an irritating and ugly slap from a stereotypical gary stu situation into the even more loathed anti-stu (a subtype of a gary stu) situation. More classic gary-stus come in the form of Tatsuya Shiba who just powers through everything with no expression on his face and the show is trying to get the viewers to take this seriously.

On the other hand, whereas Lelouch can geass everyone he meets from the start, the handicap is his own humanity - his morals, a superego within that tells him it's wrong. This makes for an interesting conflict between his resistance of that option and the ensuing consequentialist/deontological exchange between him and Suzaku.

Another interesting take is RahXephon's idea of "tuning" the world. The power itself is godhood but the user only gains access to it after a long journey into himself to understand and accept who he is and the world around him.

So, in conclusion, all depends on how this type of character is handled.
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I hate characters that aren't well written, and op characters tend to be poorly written. Meruem is an op character, but he is incredibly well written so he's a great character.
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