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Oct 23, 2009 1:59 PM

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So far so good!
Still, I'm missing the good old Hei (Shaving, haircut, badass fighting style...)
 
Oct 23, 2009 2:07 PM

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Still, I'm missing the good old Hei (Shaving, haircut, badass fighting style...)


Yeah, gotta miss the old Hei...but I'm sure we'll be seeing him back in style sooner or later. That being said, an amazing episode I thought.
 
Oct 23, 2009 2:16 PM

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I don't think that he'll change his look in this season (maybe he does if he sees Yin or Misaki again xD), but maybe he'll be back in his old style in the OVAs...
 
Oct 23, 2009 2:39 PM

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I have big gun, took it from my chest.

^sorry bout that
 
Oct 23, 2009 2:40 PM

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well Kirihara appears.. one of the better episodes so far
 
Oct 23, 2009 2:56 PM

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No one else here happy for the change from the "two-episodic nature" season one had and over to this continuous story?

I'm totally digging the change. I didn't like the separate arcs style in the first season very much.
 
Oct 23, 2009 3:06 PM

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So Mao... is still alive. That was shocking. I thought he died in season one. Oh well, I guess I'm glad that he's still alive (sort of).

Anyways, this episode was good only because of the Kirihara part. Good to see her having more screen time :)

But I wasn't express with Suou being such a brainless idiot. It took her that long to realize that she was in a life or death situation? This isn't the DTB that I know.

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Oct 23, 2009 3:12 PM

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The little girl is getting really irritating. I wish she'd just stay in her unconscious form. It was just awesome with that rifle. July being the only remnant of November, I hope he doesn't die. Then Hei's back to his original Reaper form.
 
Oct 23, 2009 3:30 PM

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So now August really is dead. How disappointing...
Idk this was kind of a lousy episode imo, I just didn't enjoy it. Too much was going on and now all of a sudden July will be traveling with Hei? I'm perfectly fine with the latter, but it was just too random. Oh well at least Genma's group is very amusing.
 
Oct 23, 2009 3:46 PM

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So, apparently Hei hates Yin now.......I;m sure we'll see why pretty soon. And anyone notice all the bodies in the background with Yin? Looked like a pretty big fight.

So far, I;m liking the new season, but I miss the old Hei, hopefully he'll be back and Mao will go back to being a cat, I don't really like the Sugar Glider or Flying Squirrel he is.
 
Oct 23, 2009 3:48 PM

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I am so happy Mao is back!
 
Oct 23, 2009 3:53 PM

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Ending song gets better everytime.
 
Oct 23, 2009 4:02 PM

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i cant wait till the next episode but i wonder why Hei hates Yin now and i wish hei had a shave and a hair cut i hate how he looks now! it really bugs me! and im really happy mao is back i thought he was gone for good
 
Oct 23, 2009 4:10 PM

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The little girl is getting really irritating. I wish she'd just stay in her unconscious form. It was just awesome with that rifle. July being the only remnant of November, I hope he doesn't die. Then Hei's back to his original Reaper form.


Actually I think July was much closer to April then he was to November. I'm guessing she was like a mother figure to him. Actually, I that was may have been said in the 1st series.

Awesome episode! I think Suou's powers has to do with materializing things, not just guns. I think I forsee her materializing a motorcycle in the near future. With July telling her how to ride it. Maybe even materialize a tank o_o

I do not care much for the whole Yin + Hei drama, but I'm assuming that something went down and now Hei wants to kill her. Needs more information on the subject.

Was that a tranny in the preview of the episode 4? Tranny Contractor? Oh my...
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Oct 23, 2009 4:11 PM

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Veggen said:
No one else here happy for the change from the "two-episodic nature" season one had and over to this continuous story?


I'm actually loving the change from the episodic nature, that was my only real qualm with the last season.

@guyklc: I think the trigger for Suou going into contractor mode and summoning the pwn cannon was from all of those people close to her being killed by contractors, not her being like "OMGIMIGHTDIE".

Oh, and uh... speaking of contractor Suou, it seems like she's going to be retaining emotions, like Hei did last season. Thus contributing to my theory that Suou borrowed powers from Pai through Hei during that little forcefield incident.
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Oct 23, 2009 4:14 PM

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Ponytails turn me on.
 
Oct 23, 2009 4:21 PM
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Another action-packed episode. I'm really enjoying this.
 
Oct 23, 2009 4:30 PM

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Man I was so happy to see Mao. : D
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Oct 23, 2009 4:30 PM

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whoa poor Nika. lots of people dying and fast so far. they totally used Tanya to dupe him and the way she killed him was just very harshs. so Mao is in the squirrel now instead of a cat? cool as long as he's back I guess.

seems July is working with them, and there's some connection with those twin lollies and that french chick. I'm thinking Suuo will have some kind of powers like here but keep emotions like Hei somehow. yay for going back to Japan and more Kirihara.
 
Oct 23, 2009 4:30 PM

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Tanya that b!tch. For what happened to Nika, I wish Hei didn't stop her from firing. Really confused about what happened with Yin...maybe the ova or further episodes will explain more in depth. Nonetheless, yes!, mao is still alive!


...Hei turned soft and became a drunk bum.
 
Oct 23, 2009 4:35 PM

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Okay, Mao is now some sort of a Russian flying squirrel, Hei lost his abilities, Suou can spawn a PTRD from her Meteor Core and spawn 14.5x114mm rounds in her pocket. The depiction of Suou, a middle schooler, firing the PTRD, an anti-tank rifle, at hip without any significant knockback makes me facepalm (I'd say that she would fly up and drop the rifle, but who cares about physics).

In all seriousness, this series has gone to the shits. I'll just pretend that DtB ended at the end of the first season, however I will continue to watch this series as I'm just curious.
 
Oct 23, 2009 4:36 PM

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...Hei turned soft and became a drunk bum.


On the contrary, I think Hei was thinking for Suou while she was going to kill her former friend. Remember what she said when Hei had her tied up? That people shouldn't have to die or some similar jibber jabber? She started to cry as she was about to kill her friend, Hei stopped her to prevent her from scarring herself by going against her own morality.

Or at least, that's how I view it.

Just defending the fact that Hei's pretty hardcore. He killed April without hesitation, and she was pretty defenseless at the time.

@Above post: Don't forget that people as contractors can use magic and summon lightning with their powers. I don't think a little girl firing a PTRD that she materialized is too far of a stretch when you've got people coating themselves in earth, using lightsabers and able to magically spawn SPAS12s from the inside of their coat.
 
Oct 23, 2009 4:37 PM

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So, apparently Hei hates Yin now.......I;m sure we'll see why pretty soon. And anyone notice all the bodies in the background with Yin? Looked like a pretty big fight.

So far, I;m liking the new season, but I miss the old Hei, hopefully he'll be back and Mao will go back to being a cat, I don't really like the Sugar Glider or Flying Squirrel he is.

No he doesn't. The preview is cutted up into scenes, its not all following a chronological order.
To KILL"Her" probabaly refering to another woman that led to Yin's death.
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Oct 23, 2009 4:39 PM

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I don't know... I will not give up hope for this anime! I just have a few things that annoy me.

1. For some reason Hei doesn't grab my attention and has become a bleh/ meh character.
2. The absence of Yin.
3. Hei's power is gone! NOOOO
4. Mao is no longer a cat.
5. Suou's power is awakened by anger/stress....Forgive me but talk about overused.

I just don't feel the Darker than Black spirit. :(
 
Oct 23, 2009 4:41 PM

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JonathanDC said:
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...Hei turned soft and became a drunk bum.


On the contrary, I think Hei was thinking for Suou while she was going to kill her former friend. Remember what she said when Hei had her tied up? That people shouldn't have to die or some similar jibber jabber? She started to cry as she was about to kill her friend, Hei stopped her to prevent her from scarring herself by going against her own morality.

Or at least, that's how I view it.

Just defending the fact that Hei's pretty hardcore. He killed April without hesitation, and she was pretty defenseless at the time.

@Above post: Don't forget that people as contractors can use magic and summon lightning with their powers. I don't think a little girl firing a PTRD that she materialized is too far of a stretch when you've got people coating themselves in earth, using lightsabers and able to magically spawn SPAS12s from the inside of their coat.
Yeah, you do have a point and I've thought about it. I'm just pointing out how nothing has to make sense for an anime, ever.
 
Oct 23, 2009 4:43 PM

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I don't think the I will kill her was directed to Yin since they put it in the quotations. It was horrible what happened to Nika, it was the first time of all the deaths that I thought was gross when the blood leaked out. That was so sad.

Suou having that big ass gun is kind of weird to me, I don't really get it haha. I wish she would have a gun so she could like jump around all badass and such. Oh well, it was still pretty cool. I love her remuneration, folding origami.
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Oct 23, 2009 4:46 PM

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Very true, HappyPear. In my opinion, that's half the allure of anime. Being realistic is fully optional. :D
 
Oct 23, 2009 4:56 PM

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Okay wow... so much happened... Suou became a contractor with a huge rifle gun thing... wtf. x___x AND OMG MAO! You're alive... even though you're inside that Pecha thing XDD Hopefully he'll find a better form than that thing, it's fcking creepy. XDD But yeah... and Hei... why do you want to kill Yin? Or is it someone else you want to kill? :x

Also, Kirihara is still stalking him lololol. Love it. :)


 
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On a completely separate issue, does anyone think that the abundance of characters and the ambiguity is taken a little to far? We have hundreds of things going on and not one solid motive of something other than this might have something to do with a meteor fragment.

Also, if Suou becomes some uber unbeatable contractor I will be very disappointed.
 
Oct 23, 2009 5:04 PM

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A new contractor is born. Also yay for Misaki Kirihara.



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Oct 23, 2009 5:07 PM

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Great episode. Loved it when Suou used the rifle.

Anyone know name of the insert song? (during train scene)
 
Oct 23, 2009 5:10 PM

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On a completely separate issue, does anyone think that the abundance of characters and the ambiguity is taken a little to far? We have hundreds of things going on and not one solid motive of something other than this might have something to do with a meteor fragment.

Also, if Suou becomes some uber unbeatable contractor I will be very disappointed.


Welllll~

For every new character that gets tossed in, like two die, so I think it's fine. About the storyline... It is a little veiled, but that's a double edged sword. I like it, I enjoy the mystery and having to solve the storyline. For others, it can irritating because they'd rather just enjoy a series at face value. Honestly, depends on what your tastes are.

'bout Suou... so long as someone gets close enough, she's kinda boned. Strong point as it stands is range. All they'd have to do is get around the shots and get close enough to attack. She doesn't seem to be physically quicker or stronger, just able to create a giant sniper rifle.

Now, if she can start materializing other weapons and stuff, then she my be pretty tough to handle, although it seems she's going to remain at human ability in terms of speed and strength.

But then again, they've got some tough opposition, what with the lightsaber bamf and Mr I-can-become-whatever-element-I-touch. Plus, that bunch has some unique tech. I mean, if they have crap that allows them to zap contractors powers away, I'm sure they'll have some other tricks up their sleeves. I see nothing wrong as it stands, and I'm sure they'll enlighten us next week.

And then confuse us some more.
 
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JonathanDC said:
ahuman said:
On a completely separate issue, does anyone think that the abundance of characters and the ambiguity is taken a little to far? We have hundreds of things going on and not one solid motive of something other than this might have something to do with a meteor fragment.

Also, if Suou becomes some uber unbeatable contractor I will be very disappointed.


Welllll~

For every new character that gets tossed in, like two die, so I think it's fine. About the storyline... It is a little veiled, but that's a double edged sword. I like it, I enjoy the mystery and having to solve the storyline. For others, it can irritating because they'd rather just enjoy a series at face value. Honestly, depends on what your tastes are.

'bout Suou... so long as someone gets close enough, she's kinda boned. Strong point as it stands is range. All they'd have to do is get around the shots and get close enough to attack. She doesn't seem to be physically quicker or stronger, just able to create a giant sniper rifle.

Now, if she can start materializing other weapons and stuff, then she my be pretty tough to handle, although it seems she's going to remain at human ability in terms of speed and strength.

But then again, they've got some tough opposition, what with the lightsaber bamf and Mr I-can-become-whatever-element-I-touch. Plus, that bunch has some unique tech. I mean, if they have crap that allows them to zap contractors powers away, I'm sure they'll have some other tricks up their sleeves. I see nothing wrong as it stands, and I'm sure they'll enlighten us next week.

And then confuse us some more.


I actually do like the kind of story that you unwrap as you go and ponder as to what happens next. As it stands I am not unhappy with whats going on, however there is something that nags me about it that I have been trying to figure out. Possibly the ambiguity or possibly the fact that it seems that Hei has taken 10 steps back from the end of season 1. Doesn't it seem that his human side that they spent so long proving that it was there is now gone?

Either way we can only wait and see what happens next.
 
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and Hei... why do you want to kill Yin? Or is it someone else you want to kill? :x

He does not want to kill her, he wants to kill the woman who caused all this. Many people have it confused. Hei blames himself for what happened to Yin is what I think.

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Oct 23, 2009 6:11 PM

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woo ... Kirihara =D

so July joined Hei ?!


 
Oct 23, 2009 6:55 PM

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The look on my face when I realized Petra is Mao...

hobo hentai hei oji-san is my hero
 
Oct 23, 2009 6:57 PM

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lol is this serious? anti-tank guns come out of the pendants? o.O
 
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Oh come on, how dare they take Hei's power away? I think Suou has it now... along with Mao's power as well maybe? I was hoping Suou would be like Kirihara, who isn't a contractor but gets involved in the whole mess.
 
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So, apparently Hei hates Yin now.......I;m sure we'll see why pretty soon. And anyone notice all the bodies in the background with Yin? Looked like a pretty big fight.

So far, I;m liking the new season, but I miss the old Hei, hopefully he'll be back and Mao will go back to being a cat, I don't really like the Sugar Glider or Flying Squirrel he is.

No he doesn't. The preview is cutted up into scenes, its not all following a chronological order.
To KILL"Her" probabaly refering to another woman that led to Yin's death.


I just re-watched that part and it wasn't in the preview, it was at the very end. But when Mao asked where Yin was, Hie said "Yin...I'll kill "her" "

So I guess it might be some other person, but it might actually be that he doesn't like her.
 
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Haha, best name ever xD You just made my day :D
 
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is it just me or is suou's power more akin to being in a state of moratorium?
Since she awakens her powers unconsciously and she doesnt seem to do anything that she intends to do while using her powers.

Also.. how do we knows hei lost his powers as opposed to him not using it since the giant bubble thing?



 
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Overall it was a nice action packed episode, and i'm glad were still getting more intel on Yin.

My only complaint was Mao's squirrel form being completely out of his charcater, and Hei with a machine gun just really doesn't seem right.
 
Oct 23, 2009 7:48 PM

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Also.. how do we knows hei lost his powers as opposed to him not using it since the giant bubble thing?
He tried "invoking" his power a few times and there was like...a brief pause in the action....then the screen would show Hei twisting his face a little or something.
Towards the end-there was a moment where he was looking at this hand with a "WTH?!" look.

GAWD....I want them to explain more detailed what happened to Hei AND/OR give him back his powers soon!
No power Hei makes me saaaad...very saaad ;-;

Ha....wow....I guess several people called it. Mao is the squirrel....well at least I'm more happy I held on to the thought he wasn't back but then he really was! Compared to expecting him to be back (then per chance getting really disappointed if he didn't come back)

You know...honestly I'm not liking all the "new" contractors at all....also I feel like there seem to be too many of them running all over the place....I'm getting so confused with their side gags and all.....

I liked seeing Kirihara again! She's giving off "I like Hei vibes"...seriously. =O
More screentime for her plz!

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I liked the atmosphere in season 1 better. Good thing that it looks like next episode and onwards will be more like season 1 :D Episode was awesome, can see the Hei x Suou doujins coming up.
 
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Mao is back! :)

Suou's transformation and then July's appearance and sudden teamwork with her was pretty crazy. Wonder what's going on with that...

Hei is pretty changed. Probably because of whatever happened with Yin. And now he's lost his powers too =(

The OP makes me think that Nika could still be alive, but we know that stuff in the op doesn't actually happen in the show, and it could be something reminiscent of the past anyway.

All in all a good episode, but one that brings up a lot of questions without really answering anything.
 
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Man, I love this stuff. Hei using a gun was pretty surprising, I can't remember if he used one the in the last series, but I've been doubting it. Does his star disappearing mean he lost his power. Even if he did lose his power, I can see him fitting into some type of badass mentoring role. It was good to see me some Kirihara, albeit only in the end, but these things have to come in small doses. Suou has an awesome power, but I thought that he was going to go SSJ.

Oh and Mao is that damn squirrel.
 
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I actually do like the kind of story that you unwrap as you go and ponder as to what happens next. As it stands I am not unhappy with whats going on, however there is something that nags me about it that I have been trying to figure out. Possibly the ambiguity or possibly the fact that it seems that Hei has taken 10 steps back from the end of season 1. Doesn't it seem that his human side that they spent so long proving that it was there is now gone?

Either way we can only wait and see what happens next.


It seems like he has taken steps back, but I do think they're actually developing his human emotions. But instead of focusing on the positive emotions, they're focusing on his negative human emotions.

It seems that something's obviously traumatized Hei. He's sad, alone and angry, drowning himself in booze to forget whatever happened to Yin. Contractors are just cold and rational and wouldn't even be phased by the death of a comrade. To drink because of it would seem stupid to a regular contractor.

Plus, remember Hei's emotional outburts when Suou accused him of being a heartless murderer? He's being human, but he's sorta messed up. I'm sure he'll come out of his shell because of Suou and her goody-goody nature later on. Also probably once he comes to terms/avenges Yin.

@dxthegreat: That's a really good possibility... but she was taking directions from July, and she did hesitate to shoot Tanya a second time, which shows two things: Human nature in the form of mercy during her hesitation and the logical rationale of contractors when taking directions from July. If she was a Moratorium, I think she'd have ignored his directions and potentially even attacked him. I think she's just a conflicted contractor borrowing powers from Hei.

I'll also mention it again; I think Hei had his powers sapped by the forcefield thing in episode 2. Since Suou broke it with the Meteor Fragment before the forcefield finished whatever it was doing, Hei's powers will *most likely* come back in a little.

Some people are saying Suou is stealing Hei's powers... I think she's just borrowing *one* of them. Pai had more than one power, and it's been said that Hei is using only one of her powers. Suou's probably borrowing weapon materialization while Hei's lightning power is currently fried from the forcefield.

Then again, I could also be completely wrong. *shrugs*
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Wow, for a "summoning matter" power (at least i think it it), her remuneration is really kinda of a let-down. Added in with the unnecessary fan-service scenes...

Still curious to see this beginning of the end stuff that the twins were talking about.
 
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Tsunami said:
Woah .. this is getting a little out of hand.
I don't like the fact that Hei has lost his powers & as biased as I am for DtB (as it has been my fave series) I don't really like the new contractor powers that Suou has received.

Ditto.

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Great ep, I watched it in one breath, but hey... I want old Hei back—shaved and clean, non-alcoholic and humane... >.>

Yes!

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This series, while good has mostly paled in comparison to the first one which had a more interesting plot with better characters. Hopefully it will pick up and move the focus back to the series' protagonist, but even if it doesn't, it will still be a pretty good series, albeit worse than the first one.

I really doubt they are stupid enough to do it, but if Hei's powers were permanently given to Suou, it is pretty much the final nail in the coffin...

So true.

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You know...honestly I'm not liking all the "new" contractors at all....also I feel like there seem to be too many of them running all over the place....I'm getting so confused with their side gags and all.....

I liked seeing Kirihara again! She's giving off "I like Hei vibes"...seriously. =O
More screentime for her plz!

Yeah i think there are too many characters.
I always preferred Hei X Kirihara. Yin always seemed to play the role of a little sister to me.

I think the high standards that the first season has set isn't doing this series good.

And i want to know who "her" is in the next episode. They don't have alot of time to waste. Only 9 episodes to go. Grr...
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I really dig the BGM for this series, whether it's some nice tranquil piano tunes or pumpin beats, I'm enjoying it a lot.

Hazumi is bad ass, tearing those soldiers apart :D

I love Suou's control with that rifle, I've always been a sucker for chicks with snipers.
 
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