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Aug 20, 2014 12:00 AM

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*taking the bait

For me it's more about being edgy tbh

I originally created my club cause I was ronery and wanted to see if there are actually people who have similar stances on sex as me on this site. And well, there are actually a few, although most people who applied just didn't get to do it yet.

The "proud to be virgin" slogan was born about half from the need of publicity and half from the fact that it portrays me as sort of like the stereotypical otaku. Arguing from an uber geek kind of view is kinda fun, especially on a troll forum like this.

In reality I am indeed kinda proud to reject sex, since it is part of who I am and standing up for who you are should be a thing you can be proud of. But I'm not really proud to be a virgin, since the vast majority of virgins are not virgins by choice and so it's nothing to be proud of.
Proud founder of the 20+ virgins club.

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Aug 20, 2014 12:01 AM

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Actually, OP, it's because of people like you that I defend my virginity. You see, if people in society stopped assuming people like who are still virgins are all insecure losers deep down inside, maybe I wouldn't be so defensive about my virginity. Hell, I thought virginity is no big deal for a large part of my life, but people like you who insist on thinking there is something "wrong" with me for being a virgin that I feel like I must resort to defending myself.

I am 24, and I am still a kissless virgin. I will make no attempt to change this. No, I will not become another Elliot Rodgers and start shooting people because of this. Deal with it. I'm not a pathetic person who is insecure of his own sexuality.
I may be misinterpreting something so feel free to correct me, but from my understanding he has nothing against you being a virgin, nor does he have a problem with you defending it. The only thing he has a problem against is people who, in his words, put the fact that they're a virgin on a pedestal. Being a virgin is fine, bragging about it is not (it's equally as bad as bragging about not being a virgin).


And why is bragging about being a virgin so bad? In a society where men are literally shunned as losers for remaining virgins, I think the fact that a virgin guy in his mid-twenties who has not lost his sanity from constant bullying from others is something to be proud of. Why should we cave in to social pressure on losing our virginity? If it doesn't hurt you in any way, what's wrong with bragging?

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
Aug 20, 2014 1:09 AM

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guyklc said:
Minagatachi said:
I may be misinterpreting something so feel free to correct me, but from my understanding he has nothing against you being a virgin, nor does he have a problem with you defending it. The only thing he has a problem against is people who, in his words, put the fact that they're a virgin on a pedestal. Being a virgin is fine, bragging about it is not (it's equally as bad as bragging about not being a virgin).


And why is bragging about being a virgin so bad? In a society where men are literally shunned as losers for remaining virgins, I think the fact that a virgin guy in his mid-twenties who has not lost his sanity from constant bullying from others is something to be proud of. Why should we cave in to social pressure on losing our virginity? If it doesn't hurt you in any way, what's wrong with bragging?
So you're proud about being a virgin just because it is something that you'd get bullied for? That doesn't make sense. That's like saying a fat person should be proud of being fat because they get bullied for it. I'm not saying it's bad to be fat, but it definitely isn't something to be proud of.

Since when do people have sex because they have "caved into social pressure"? People have sex because we, as humans, are designed to enjoy it. You've turned something as simple as sex into a war against society, may I ask why?
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Aug 20, 2014 1:09 AM

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Virginity is a social construct created by religion and culture. There's no such thing as "virginity" in nature. There's no reason in being ashamed of never having sex, and there's also no shame in having a lot of sex either.
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Aug 20, 2014 1:24 AM

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Kitska said:
Virginity is a social construct created by religion and culture. There's no such thing as "virginity" in nature. There's no reason in being ashamed of never having sex, and there's also no shame in having a lot of sex either.
Couldn't have said it any better. +1
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Aug 20, 2014 2:35 AM

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Yeah I'm a virgin but I never felt entitled and I don't blame anyone for my own shortcomings. It's hard tho, few years back I got an asswhooping from dudes for being a virgin, it made me start to hate women for it but I realized shortly afterwards it's no ones fault but my own, I decided I'll just have to live with but that's the easy part the hard is when despite all that there is so much stimuli that keeps reminding you of the shit.
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Aug 20, 2014 2:50 AM
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I'm pretty awkward, and difficult to talk to, but personally I like to think that if you can only give something once, you should give it to someone special. Not to say I don't have desires, or that I always manage to fight them, but ideally, I'd only be with one person.

Although maybe I just think that 'cause I'm a virgin. I dunno tbh.
Aug 20, 2014 2:52 AM
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Theres no Reason to Justify Why someone is a virgin.
Just as there is no reason to bully or tease someone for being a virgin.

Blame it on the Your not a man till you've had sex culture I guess.
Aug 20, 2014 3:04 AM

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Yeah I'm a virgin but I never felt entitled and I don't blame anyone for my own shortcomings. It's hard tho, few years back I got an asswhooping from dudes for being a virgin, it made me start to hate women for it but I realized shortly afterwards it's no ones fault but my own, I decided I'll just have to live with but that's the easy part the hard is when despite all that there is so much stimuli that keeps reminding you of the shit.
Someone beat you up for being a virgin?
Aug 20, 2014 3:27 AM

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GuusWayne said:
Yeah I'm a virgin but I never felt entitled and I don't blame anyone for my own shortcomings. It's hard tho, few years back I got an asswhooping from dudes for being a virgin, it made me start to hate women for it but I realized shortly afterwards it's no ones fault but my own, I decided I'll just have to live with but that's the easy part the hard is when despite all that there is so much stimuli that keeps reminding you of the shit.
Someone beat you up for being a virgin?
A group of dudes, I was dumb back then and had bad company. It started with being ridiculed and laughed at, then it escalated to physical contact the more I reacted the stronger they would come at me, for them it was fun bullying and shit, got surrounded, insulted, slapped around from the back and shit and when I got mad and charged a guy they all jumped at me. It happened little by little, I got home that night and after sleeping reflected on why it happened, I chose to blame what I believed to be the root cause which was women or lack thereof.
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GuusWayne said:
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Someone beat you up for being a virgin?
A group of dudes, I was dumb back then and had bad company. It started with being ridiculed and laughed at, then it escalated to physical contact the more I reacted the stronger they would come at me, for them it was fun bullying and shit, got surrounded, insulted, slapped around from the back and shit and when I got mad and charged a guy they all jumped at me. It happened little by little, I got home that night and after sleeping reflected on why it happened, I chose to blame what I believed to be the root cause which was women or lack thereof.
They sound like pieces of shit.
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Makes me happy my friends are dateless nerds too. I can't take a hit at all.
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Aug 20, 2014 3:41 AM

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Minagatachi said:
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A group of dudes, I was dumb back then and had bad company. It started with being ridiculed and laughed at, then it escalated to physical contact the more I reacted the stronger they would come at me, for them it was fun bullying and shit, got surrounded, insulted, slapped around from the back and shit and when I got mad and charged a guy they all jumped at me. It happened little by little, I got home that night and after sleeping reflected on why it happened, I chose to blame what I believed to be the root cause which was women or lack thereof.
They sound like pieces of shit.
I wasn't too shaken up by it, where I lived if you're not atleast mentally tough you're gonna get eaten alive.
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Aug 20, 2014 3:44 AM

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GuusWayne said:
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They sound like pieces of shit.
I wasn't too shaken up by it, where I lived if you're not atleast mentally tough you're gonna get eaten alive.
Where was that?
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Aug 20, 2014 3:46 AM

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I wasn't too shaken up by it, where I lived if you're not atleast mentally tough you're gonna get eaten alive.
Where was that?
Lived in Detroit.
Btw I've been trolling you all. Had none of that shit happen to me.
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katsucats said:
]So what's your purpose in posting in a thread, ignoring it, and instead make assumptions based on what you perceive every other thread to be but this one? lol


Because I can see through poorly veiled egotism. There is no merit discussing a subject that was made up as an excuse.
Aug 20, 2014 4:33 AM

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katsucats said:
Like, I get if you want to be chaste until marriage or something. There is no pressure to have sex right now. But when you try to justify the decision by throwing a bunch of blind darts at the "problem", trying to convince yourself and other people that your decision was the "right" one for society and yourself, that you don't really "need" sex despite that you're talking about it all day, that sounds really insecure and pathetic, dude... Trust me, we can spot that shit from a mile away.




but its truth. the problem is not that you are virgin. the problem is that you are desperate about that.
please sell me the condom, mister
I would like to fuck my sister!
condoms really worth to keep
I will fuck her very deep!
could you be my condom keeper?
so I could try to fuck her deeper!

please think I m stupid but please dont think I m a troll.
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Aug 20, 2014 4:33 AM

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GuusWayne said:
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Where was that?
Lived in Detroit.
Btw I've been trolling you all. Had none of that shit happen to me.
Oh god damn it.
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Aug 20, 2014 4:36 AM
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@Guus

Dude that's way too elaborate with too little funny to be a troll. You're either lying about trolling, or you're a severely unfunny troll. ;:o
Aug 20, 2014 4:46 AM

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GuusWayne said:

Btw I've been trolling you all.


you should never say it. never.
please sell me the condom, mister
I would like to fuck my sister!
condoms really worth to keep
I will fuck her very deep!
could you be my condom keeper?
so I could try to fuck her deeper!

please think I m stupid but please dont think I m a troll.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzn0J8cfrY
Aug 20, 2014 4:48 AM

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@Guus, Spiderman does not approve.
Aug 20, 2014 4:54 AM

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Quick, this is getting off-topic. Someone start an argument before mods lock the thread.
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Aug 20, 2014 4:55 AM

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Minagatachi said:
Quick, this is getting off-topic. Someone start an argument before mods lock the thread.


my nan can beat ur nan in a rumble m8.
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Quick, this is getting off-topic. Someone start an argument before mods lock the thread.


my nan can beat ur nan in a rumble m8.
oi my nan will fkn reck urs
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Aug 20, 2014 4:58 AM

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Not quite what I had in mind though, I meant something more like "Hitler was a virgin, therefore virgins are evil".
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Aug 20, 2014 5:01 AM

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Minagatachi said:
Quick, this is getting off-topic. Someone start an argument before mods lock the thread.

Here's the bait.

Virgins feel 'alienated' in today's society were losing one's virginity early is akin to wearing a badge of manhood. Thus there attempts to justify their position, albeit in a pathetic manner sometimes.

Refute.
Aug 20, 2014 5:03 AM

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Minagatachi said:
Quick, this is getting off-topic. Someone start an argument before mods lock the thread.
nisekoi sucks your taste sucks
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Minagatachi said:
xRatatosk said:


my nan can beat ur nan in a rumble m8.
oi my nan will fkn reck urs


ur prolly rite m8, my nan is ded.
Aug 20, 2014 5:07 AM

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Ryukatsuka said:
Minagatachi said:
Quick, this is getting off-topic. Someone start an argument before mods lock the thread.

Here's the bait.

Virgins feel 'alienated' in today's society were losing one's virginity early is akin to wearing a badge of manhood. Thus there attempts to justify their position, albeit in a pathetic manner sometimes.

Refute.
I'm thinking that people place wayyy to much importance on sex, it's great and all but it isn't anywhere near as important as people make it out to be. I don't see why non-virgins need to label themselves better than virgins when ANYONE can get sex.

I think I'm kind of beating the dead horse here.

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Quick, this is getting off-topic. Someone start an argument before mods lock the thread.
nisekoi sucks your taste sucks
You haven't seen Shitcom, therefore anything you say is invalid.
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Minagatachi said:
PornSymphony said:
nisekoi sucks your taste sucks
You haven't seen Shitcom, therefore anything you say is invalid.
fuk you i fap to shit com and pupa incest cannibalism
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I can tell I'ma like this forum.
Aug 20, 2014 5:12 AM

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GuusWayne said:
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Where was that?
Lived in Detroit.
Btw I've been trolling you all. Had none of that shit happen to me.

It's okay, you don't have to feel shame about it, you're still human, don't deny your feelings, just let it all out, it will makes you feel better, promise.
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Aug 20, 2014 5:26 AM
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If you're desperate for sex, get a girlfriend. Stop sitting on MAL all day and put in work. Go to gigs, go to raves. Put in WORK!
'The way of the wang is long...and hard'
Aug 20, 2014 5:28 AM

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People don't want to be mocked by society. Simple, no?

Seriously, why do you need an entire thread for something so obvious?
Aug 20, 2014 5:28 AM

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Minagatachi said:
PornSymphony said:
nisekoi sucks your taste sucks
You haven't seen Shitcom, therefore anything you say is invalid.


Shitcom was a masterpiece, and you can't deny it.
Aug 20, 2014 5:32 AM

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The true way to solve a problem is to....



And why is it even a problem? Its not "a problem" to be virgin. At least I dont see any problem with it.

one day I'll be a champion at shitposting!
Aug 20, 2014 5:35 AM
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Coming here and say OP is a frustrated virgin!

outtie
Aug 20, 2014 5:51 AM

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Minagatachi said:
"Hitler was a virgin, therefore virgins are evil".


Sounds legit. lol
Aug 20, 2014 5:56 AM

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LashLethal said:
If you're desperate for sex, get a girlfriend. Stop sitting on MAL all day and put in work. Go to gigs, go to raves. Put in WORK!


And if you're not? :o
Proud founder of the 20+ virgins club.

Please visit my manga blog for manga updates and more!

Mup da doo didda po mo muhfuggen bix nood

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Shiratori99 said:
LashLethal said:
If you're desperate for sex, get a girlfriend. Stop sitting on MAL all day and put in work. Go to gigs, go to raves. Put in WORK!


And if you're not? :o


Then the statement doesn't apply to you. Simple.
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Cyaegha said:
Shiratori99 said:


And if you're not? :o


Then the statement doesn't apply to you. Simple.


Hey now, don't ruin my bait.
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Please visit my manga blog for manga updates and more!

Mup da doo didda po mo muhfuggen bix nood

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Shiratori99 said:
Cyaegha said:


Then the statement doesn't apply to you. Simple.


Hey now, don't ruin my bait.
ruined it yourself gg
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I'd like it to go on record that I disagree with the idea of getting a girlfriend just to have sex. Having a girlfriend implies a relationship, and a relationship should be taken seriously.

If you just want sex, I'm sure there are people that feel the same way. You don't have to lead someone on who expects more. That's cruel.

I'll... stop ranting now.
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Shiratori99 said:
LashLethal said:
If you're desperate for sex, get a girlfriend. Stop sitting on MAL all day and put in work. Go to gigs, go to raves. Put in WORK!


And if you're not? :o
20+ virgins club is the way to go then.
Aug 20, 2014 6:10 AM

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Being a virgin doesn't require justification.
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Aug 20, 2014 7:27 AM
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they're ashamed for some reason. it usually comes coupled with a prude-ish attitude if they actually want sex but can't figure out how to get it.
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I'd like it to go on record that I disagree with the idea of getting a girlfriend just to have sex. Having a girlfriend implies a relationship, and a relationship should be taken seriously.

If you just want sex, I'm sure there are people that feel the same way. You don't have to lead someone on who expects more. That's cruel.

I'll... stop ranting now.
It's kind of hard to know someone's intent from the start (as in whether the partner expects something more). And people's views of each other can change. I don't think it's that bad. And I don't know about others, but you can usually tell if someone is just trying to get someone for sex.

Lol I was on IRC and someone said: "Are you in love? masturbate before answering. there is great truth in post-cum clarity and much desperation without."
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It seems to me like virgins are the ones who have the highest opinion about sex, even if they don't know shit about it.
~ça vax~

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Or if you don't see a problem in it at all, that's cool too.

Yep, I don't see any problem with my virginity. But I see problem in fuck-addicted society and especially in someone who tries to teach me how to live or how to cum.
Titan of 20+ virgins club.
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