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Oct 19, 2009 1:08 PM
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This episode was intense, what chances will the AEUG have against the Titans and Zeon?

Also rofl at the kids trying to lift the cargo and getting owned instead xD
Jan 15, 2010 11:43 PM
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so reccoa is captured it seems, pretty good distraction by the titans using those fake mobile suits
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Aug 3, 2010 3:07 PM
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Nice episode, it was already foreshadowed that something is gonna happen to Reccoa and dying would have been just too easy. So instead she got captured and now I wonder if she's gonna change sides or what will happen~
Aug 22, 2010 9:37 PM
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"One of our pilots died today, its made everyone lose moral"
As opposed to the two nameless pilots in the Nemos who died?
xD

I just love it when the redshirts don't ever get mourned at all for their deaths.
Oct 8, 2010 9:38 AM
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Sabinlerose said:
"One of our pilots died today, its made everyone lose moral"
As opposed to the two nameless pilots in the Nemos who died?
xD

I just love it when the redshirts don't ever get mourned at all for their deaths.

You can't mourn for every single dead man you don't even know, unless you're some sort of saint. You mourn when you lose people that you know, and who are more or less irreplaceable for you. And i'm quite sure there was someone who mourned for these so called 'redshirts', but do we watchers need to know that? I don't think it's even worth attention.
Dec 12, 2010 11:12 AM
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x4m said:
Sabinlerose said:
"One of our pilots died today, its made everyone lose moral"
As opposed to the two nameless pilots in the Nemos who died?
xD

I just love it when the redshirts don't ever get mourned at all for their deaths.

You can't mourn for every single dead man you don't even know, unless you're some sort of saint. You mourn when you lose people that you know, and who are more or less irreplaceable for you. And i'm quite sure there was someone who mourned for these so called 'redshirts', but do we watchers need to know that? I don't think it's even worth attention.

I dunno. Seems quite lazy to me.

When the crew we DO know is the leader group of an entire ship. It goes without saying that they would know the people on board the ship. Especially the pilots who would all be in the same briefing room and have the same training.

In earlier and later Gundam series the Redshirt (I suppose in Gundamverse It's actually Greenshirt. Damn Char.) bit characters would at least have names. Even if they didn't have a face.

Sure we the viewers don't need to see it happen, but when the pilots are treated like literally fodder and made no mention of....irks me. Seems like poor writing.
Jan 3, 2014 12:21 AM
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What in fuck's name is going on with Reccoa!¿
Jan 9, 2014 2:13 PM
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What in fuck's name is going on with Reccoa!¿


My sentiments exactly
Feb 5, 2014 12:02 AM
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Getting real tired of your shit Reccoa.
Mar 2, 2014 11:08 PM

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Here I was all ready to celebrate Reccoa's death, but noooo, she just had to be saved. And Why does Char keep letting Kamille punch him? Shouldn't his Newtype senses tingle?
Jul 7, 2014 1:17 AM

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Another amazing, but wtf episode.

First off i'm surprise Henken was able to score a date from Emma!! I wonder what Kamille thinks of this XD

It was a nice backstory on how Reccoa joined AEUG. She's seem similar to Beltorchika.

Tbh I don't know what Char needs to do in order to satisfy Reccoa. Seriously could she at least give some hints or anything??? This is the problem with women, always playing hard to get.

And wtf is Reccoa doing staring in the space and letting the enemy attacked you in all sides?? And is she laughing as she stares death?? Is she crazy or intoxicated or anything O___O

Yazan could have finished her off, but didn't. It's funny how we get to see Yazan in normal uniform in the vision scenes yet Reccoa is naked in these kind of scenes XD

Seems everyone thinks she's died in battle. I wouldn't be surprise if her mental breakdown is caused by that clown Paptimus since she started acting weird ever since she approached him. Also they could manipulate her into fighting her former comrades. Damn titan will probably do something like that.

And wtf is Char letting Kamille hit you this many times?? I know you beat the shit out of him in the last episode, but could you have at least evade some of his attacks??

It's gonna be interesting from here on out. Can't wait for the next episodes!!!
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Insecure about your own strength, you're driven (unconsciouly or not) to seek the company and protection of someone you admire or/and deem stronger, someone oozing with confidence, someone like Quattro-tai. The problem is, though a certain Kamille Bidan might not like it, that Char Aznable has no moral or legal obligation to protect you nor deal with your issues.
And at this point, spouting some nice fluffy gender essentialist bullshit to rationalize the fact that what you truly want is for a man to fix you doesn't cut it either.

Conclusion: you suck, Reccoa.
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Jun 3, 2015 7:50 PM

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Damnit Yazan, can't you do something right for once and just kill Reccoa?
Aug 29, 2015 10:02 AM
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Wtf kamille. You ever think that Char's just not that into her? He doesn't have an obligation to get with Reccoa just because she's interested in him, that's bs.
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"She seems like a decent woman," Yazan thinks to himself as he gazes upon some random enemy pilot woman who jumped into his mobile suit's hand mid-combat. Huh, strange definition of a decent woman...

I'm surprised nobody mentions the Wang, I mean Wong. Dude is totally obnoxious and always in the way, he's like the two little kids except in the body of a 40 year old man.
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So Reccoa is a lost sheep with no conviction who needed a lover or a shepherd to lead her? Classic guru victim... It's nice to get elements to start to understand what's going on with a character, but this time it made me despise it even more. (though it is interesting to see such a "personality" in an animated Bandai commercial for children, I wonder what was the average age of the viewers xD). Well, she won't bee lost anymore as soon as Guru Paptimus takes his care.
This Newtype communication between Yazan and Reccoa... I wasn't even aware those two were natural born NTs. O_o

I always disliked Mr. Lee but this time he was truly unbearable! Only Camille knows him well: "he likes to start fights" or something like that xD I hope they get rid of him on La Vie en Rose. (I see what 0083 did there, it was a good introduction)

3/5 As much as I understand what was done in the episode, it made it less enjoyable.


July 10, 2016
@ucisbestcentury This was an hyperbole due to the permanent parade of models (to the point characters were always saying "where is the new model?"/"this is a new model!"). Plus I was growing bored thanks to the 50% screen time lost on the mandatory weekly battle .
I should have wrote it between " ".

I wasn't aware that Zeta Katz was one of the children targetting elements.

Are you sure about the airing slot? I tried to find the broadcasting hours of the early series (up to ZZ) but didn't.


June 21, 2020
@St0rmblade While not invested in her or liking her, didn't you at least find the inclusion of such a character interesting? Along with Guru Paptimus (this one being an utter failure though), I thought both were rather interesting and daring attempts. I'm not even sure such things would be accepted today.

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There're better depictions of cultist behavior than Scirocco and his followers, which looked almost like a parody.

Obviously (especially for Guru Paptimus). I was thinking about japanese animation (especially this kind of "large public" one, rather than obscure night shows)
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Jun 16, 2016 1:55 AM

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Wow, Reccoa is not a freedom fighter. She is addicted to war. I am honestly impressed by how much this explains.

"I'm going to die. Yet, I'm not one bit scared. Right. That's why I wanted to die."

...Damn, she is messed up.

By the way, for someone who is addicted to war she sure sucks at piloting a murder machine.

Why are Sarah and Scirocco constantly looking at each other like the world's funniest inside joke is going on between them?
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Rei366 said:
So Reccoa is a lost sheep with no conviction who needed a lover or a shepherd to lead her? Classic guru victim... It's nice to get elements to start to understand what's going on with a character, but this time it made me despise it even more. (though it is interesting to see such a "personality" in an animated Bandai commercial for children, I wonder what was the average age of the viewers xD). Well, she won't bee lost anymore as soon as Guru Paptimus takes his care.
This Newtype communication between Yazan and Reccoa... I wasn't even aware those two were natural born NTs. O_o

I always disliked Mr. Lee but this time he was truly unbearable! Only Camille knows him well: "he likes to start fights" or something like that xD I hope they get rid of him on La Vie en Rose. (I see what 0083 did there, it was a good introduction)

3/5 As much as I understand what was done in the episode, it made it less enjoyable.


I wouldn't call this an "Animated Bandai Commercial" for children, as Tomino had always fought against that during even the original gundam. It was, even at it's inception, supposed to be a space oprea first and formost like Space Battleship Yamato. In fact I'm fairly sure this was aired as a Late Night anime and targeted towards older college-age audiences, it'a sequel to 0079 and it wanted to get those who loved the original when they where younger.

Of course it has a kids demographic in mind, hence kats and the two kids who come to space for no reason what so ever, but I think zeta was aimed more at late teens and 20 year olds.
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@ucisbestcentury This was an hyperbole due to the permanent parade of models (to the point characters were always saying "where is the new model?"/"this is a new model!"). Plus I was growing bored thanks to the 50% screen time lost on the mandatory weekly battle .
I should have wrote it between " ".

I wasn't aware that Zeta Katz was one of the children targetting elements.

Are you sure about the airing slot? I tried to find the broadcasting hours of the early series (up to ZZ) but didn't.


I can understand that. There are most definitely merchandise driven elements in all gundams,and the fights can take up too much time sometimes (wish we had more time with axis and Haman kann for example) I feel like the plot can move even in a fight though,and zeta does a good job of developing characters in a mech battle IE look at this episode with reccoa,or the very first few episodes with kammlie.

As for the airing slot,I read that oj a few wikis but I can't find the air date ethier, so I may be wrong.
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In each episode, the director always manages to make in order not to bore the audience, and also to fly some slap. LOL!
I have not yet seen Char take so many. The plot moves well and clashes are not repetitive, the final PV, is promising.
Nov 24, 2016 7:53 PM

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Good episode but i really wish that Reccoa would have actually died.
Nov 25, 2016 1:04 PM
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Why does Zeta Gundam have so many hatable characters? (Especially Wong who I wanna kill!)
Mar 1, 2017 4:55 PM

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Another pretty impressive episode, let's see what happens next though!!
Jan 31, 2018 1:49 PM

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I don’t know man, I thought Scirocco was the one calling Reccoa (the show was kinda hinting that she was aware of him via his natural charm or NT power) but it turns out it was Yazan(?) I don’t know what to think because the anime only showed them meeting briefly & interchanging blows in a skirmish a few times thus the anime has not made me think they were destined for each other but seeing this episode you think they are soulmates… *Sigh*
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I thought that Yazan wasn't a newtype, but he had a psychic connection. Maybe anyone can be connected if a newtype initiates is.

Kamille Bidan Kill Count:
1 Marasai Kill this episode
45 Kills total
Apr 24, 2018 3:22 PM

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That last scene was HILARIOUS

"The cactus flowers have blossomed"

LMAO shit had me rollin
Sep 14, 2019 10:00 PM

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Reccoa is just longing for some man's D.
Char don't give a fvk about her. Why can't Kamille understand that?
I can't find any decent girl character in this show tbh. Maybe Emma? The pink haired girl is likeable but her personality was inconsistent.
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blight even putting wong in his place lol

as for Reccoa what ever happens to her happens at this point as she has just become a very annoying character as of late also dont even blame char for not wanting to be bothered with her but lets see what happens next
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First balloon meteorites, now balloon mobile suits. What next?

Wong Lee: why isn't there more military order on this ship?
Also Wong Lee: gets angry when Brighto-san tells him to sit down. What a hooligan.

Char, after getting punched in the face by Kamille again: aren't those beautiful cactuses? xD

I'm really not invested in Reccoa though.

@Rei_III
It was an interesting attempt - you don't see characters like Reccoa every time, but she was poorly executed, I think. And there're better depictions of cultist behavior than Scirocco and his followers, which looked almost like a parody.

@EmperorKaido You'd better not set your expectations about Scirocco's background too high here. Also, I think I was writing my comment on him after I'd finished the show, so it's sort of a retrospective view.
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First balloon meteorites, now balloon mobile suits. What next?

Wong Lee: why isn't there more military order on this ship?
Also Wong Lee: gets angry when Brighto-san tells him to sit down. What a hooligan.

Char, after getting punched in the face by Kamille again: aren't those beautiful cactuses? xD

I'm really not invested in Reccoa though.

@Rei_III
It was an interesting attempt - you don't see characters like Reccoa every time, but she was poorly executed, I think. And there're better depictions of cultist behavior than Scirocco and his followers, which looked almost like a parody.


I completely disagree. I think they are executing it very well. I want to learn more abotu Scirocco since he clearly knows how to control other people.
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So, the AEUG think Reccoa is dead but she got captured. I don't know how this going to affect in the future.
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Convenient how NewType powers can magically brainwash and hypnotize people. I wonder how many more tricks these magicians can pull out of their spacesuits.


Jun 24, 2022 12:30 PM

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I'm getting so fed up with the Reccoa plotline that I want to stop watching the anime entirely.
Aug 28, 2023 3:29 AM

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I'm getting so fed up with the Reccoa plotline that I want to stop watching the anime entirely.
i'm feeling the same way
i hope this ends soon because it became a slog to watch, every character is inconsistent or annoying
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One more Newtype??

Char "The cactus flowers have blossomed" hahaha
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Insecure about your own strength, you're driven (unconsciouly or not) to seek the company and protection of someone you admire or/and deem stronger, someone oozing with confidence, someone like Quattro-tai. The problem is, though a certain Kamille Bidan might not like it, that Char Aznable has no moral or legal obligation to protect you nor deal with your issues.
And at this point, spouting some nice fluffy gender essentialist bullshit to rationalize the fact that what you truly want is for a man to fix you doesn't cut it either.

Conclusion: you suck, Reccoa.
@Sapewloth I read somewhere that Tomino, who is already quite sexist (look at the original Zeta pitch. Yikes.) was going through a bad breakup while writing Zeta, and if thats true it really shows.
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I'm perplexed by Reccoa's actions - but then, so does she, herself, for anyone who's been paying attention. I for one, hope she gets out of this alive. Or, at least, that she "finds her true self". And If we think about it, many anime shows are about troubled characters, torn between contradictory feelings, having traumatized pasts. As long as it is handled well, this may not make me "love" a character - but it certainly gives more dimensions to him or her. That's the way I felt about Four's character, as well (and I still hope we get to see her once again - she was too interesting to die just like that).

I don't mind complex characters, even if they act in a way I don't "approve". But I DO mind characters that are too one-dimensional.
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