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Aug 5, 2014 9:19 AM
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Guns are sentient, therefore they decide whether to kill or not. It's not actually the person behind the trigger that's got the will to choose, it's the GUN ITSELF.
Aug 5, 2014 9:50 AM
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Kronie said:

Yes, yes they can.
That logic makes no sense, if they are carrying a gun than the ONLY defense would be to also carry one. Because I can assure you not carrying a gun while they do carry one wont be of help in the slightest.

That logic does not make sense. If noone would carry a weapon, then noone would need them aswell. It is not a tool for defense, it is a tool for offense killing people.
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And self control is always required. Knives are always pulled in fights should they be banned as well? If people want to kill they are going to kill. I however prefer the ability to be able to defend myself against gun wielding maniacs instead of having nothing and being left to their own whims on when to murder me or not.


It depends on what kind of knifes. Some should be banned and in some countries they are banned.
Self control is a nice word, but if you own a tool with a great potential of killing someone your self control will be on a very low level. The danger behind that tool is too high.

If someone has a knife you could run away or if you are very strong you could defend yourself with body power. In the case of a gun it is totally impossible.
Aug 5, 2014 9:53 AM

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Guns don't get up and shoot people for any reason, its the people using it that pull the trigger.
Aug 5, 2014 9:56 AM

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Infinite said:
American gun laws result in more deaths?

So... america kills people?

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Aug 5, 2014 10:07 AM

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Meokii said:
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Citizens deserve every right to be able to defend themselves and their property.
Don't be ridiculous.

You don't need a gun to defend yourself.
If the other guy has a gun...yeah I kind of do.
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Aug 5, 2014 10:10 AM
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You don't need a gun to defend yourself.

TheFilthyCasual said:
If the other guy has a gun...yeah I kind of do.

Yeah, but if noone is allowed to carry a gun then you do not need one to defend yourself
Aug 5, 2014 10:14 AM

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People die when they are killed.
Aug 5, 2014 10:45 AM

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Guns don't kill people. People kill people with guns. If they can't use guns, they would just use some other weapon to kill people.
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Cyanwasserstoff said:

You don't need a gun to defend yourself.

TheFilthyCasual said:
If the other guy has a gun...yeah I kind of do.

Yeah, but if noone is allowed to carry a gun then you do not need one to defend yourself
Since when has a ban ever stopped people from just getting them off the black market?

Also, it's great to have a gun to bring to a knife fight.
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Aug 5, 2014 10:51 AM
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"Do guns kill people or do people kill people?"

uuuh.. semantics.

DesuMaiden said:
Guns don't kill people. People kill people with guns. If they can't use guns, they would just use some other weapon to kill people.
the last sentence doesnt support your claim, that "people kill people".

The hammer killed the man, the gun killed the man, the banana killed the man.


I can turn it like I want to, this argument is useless. Both are possible answers.
Aug 5, 2014 11:39 AM

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You pull the gun out, load it, cock it back, pull the trigger and the bullet goes flying, the bullets hits someone in their vitals and they die. Now tell me, what killed the other person




Aug 5, 2014 12:01 PM

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Zymf said:
People die when they are killed.
Are you sure they don't just ressurect?
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Aug 5, 2014 12:07 PM

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Rothion said:
People kill people, guns are just a tool for people to kill more effectively.
More or less

There isn't much to add to the statement
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Aug 5, 2014 12:40 PM

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Kronie said:
Meokii said:
You don't need a gun to defend yourself.

A guy has a gun, the other is unarmed.
Even a brain dead retard can figure out who has the upperhand in this scenario, are you saying you're less capable of thought than a brain dead retard?

The question here is, what kind of situation are we talking about?

Does the guy with the gun just outright want to kill me? Then yes, being unarmed would suck and carrying a gun myself slightly raises my chances of survival.

Does he just want to mug me and use his gun to intimidate me and doesn't want to actually use it? Well he can go ahead and take my money and then leave. If I pull my own gun on him all of a sudden, chances are MUCH bigger that either one of us would get killed. In this case carrying my own gun doesn't make me safer at all.

Everyone carrying guns simply increases the danger of people getting killed in (gun) accidents and you can't deny that. So in that regard banning guns can prevents people from dying.

However, if someone wants to murder someone else or just go on a killling spree, banning guns is obviously pointless because he will get one either way.
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People don't need a gun to kill someone like others said a gun is just a tool to kill someone.
There are countless of ways to kill someone and there are countless of tools that can be used for killing.
The thing with tools is that they are useless as long as there aren't people to use them so in the end the ones responsible are the ones who use the tool and not the tool itself.
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Physics kill people because it is through the laws of physics that a person dies when inflicted a properly aimed bullet.
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Aug 5, 2014 12:58 PM
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Citizens shouldn't be allowed to carry guns, but that's not the only problem. The high homicide rate of the US is caused by gun availability, poverty, ghettoization and the presence of a certain racial group that shall not be named.
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Aug 5, 2014 1:12 PM

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Gun obviously, those fvcking things should go to jail not the poor people that using it!
Aug 5, 2014 1:13 PM

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People kill guns.
Aug 5, 2014 1:18 PM

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people kill people
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Aug 5, 2014 1:20 PM

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beavis2323 said:
people kill people

Pretty much. It doesn't matter what weapons you are using. People do indeed kill other people.
Aug 5, 2014 1:22 PM

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Anti_Meta said:
You pull the gun out, load it, cock it back, pull the trigger and the bullet goes flying, the bullets hits someone in their vitals and they die. Now tell me, what killed the other person
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Aug 5, 2014 1:35 PM
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TheFilthyCasual said:
Since when has a ban ever stopped people from just getting them off the black market?

Also, it's great to have a gun to bring to a knife fight.

Sure there are ways to get a gun even if that one is banned, but the chance to get that kind of weapon will be much less then if that one is even allowed.

A gun will not guarentee your survival if the other one also carry some.

But a gun will lower the drag to kill someone, because it made it that easy.
Aversa said:
People don't need a gun to kill someone like others said a gun is just a tool to kill someone.
There are countless of ways to kill someone and there are countless of tools that can be used for killing.
The thing with tools is that they are useless as long as there aren't people to use them so in the end the ones responsible are the ones who use the tool and not the tool itself.


Sure the gun is just the tool that is used for killing people, but the drag to do it is much lower with a gun then it would be without this powerfull tool.

The easier it is to kill someone the less the drag is to do that one.
Aug 5, 2014 1:39 PM

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If guns kills people, then why not just arrest the guns instead of the innocent people who innocently pulled the trigger?
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Rothion said:
People kill people, guns are just a tool for people to kill more effectively.


This.
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Aug 5, 2014 2:54 PM

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People with guns kill people easier.


and thats exactly the problem, guns are easily acquired too
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Aug 6, 2014 7:04 AM

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Well, if we want to be literal, we should say bullets kill people o.o
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Aug 6, 2014 7:08 AM

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Jaguer91 said:
Well, if we want to be literal, we should say bullets kill people o.o


Nope in actual fact it's the person who got shot who killed themselves, the bullet was just being all innocent flying through the air, having a good time then some dumb person gets in the way and the poor bullet hits the pleb, the bullet now dreams of flying through the air like it once did but it knows that'll never happen.... *cries*
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It can go both ways. But in the end it all depends on people.

Guns can be programed to kill people.
And guns can kill people misfires, and the drop of a gun.
Aug 6, 2014 7:12 AM
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Guns are just tools for killing. Tools are used by people. Simple as that. That's why America needs to sort out it's gun problems. You see these guys over there who shoot schools up? Guaranteed these guys wouldn't get far if they tried to use knives. You see when Dimebag got shot on stage by that psycho? If he tried to get at Dimebag with a knife, someone would of tackled him nicely. Guns just make killing easier.
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Aug 6, 2014 11:26 AM

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People kill people. And since I've moved to these shady apartments, three people have been stabbed. An as a gun owner, I think we need to help remove the mentality of "Kill! Hurt! Die! " from people's minds through empathy towards others.
Aug 6, 2014 11:32 AM

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I kill people ._.
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Everyone should get gud and fight barehanded settle things in a fair fashion
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reasons to kill - kill people
Aug 6, 2014 2:06 PM

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Obviously, guns kill people. Guns are living, sentient entities fully responsible for what they do.
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All guns are victims here. ^
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People kill guns.
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Afshar said:
people kill guns


This. Watch news and see this.
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Aug 6, 2014 7:28 PM

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Bullets Help in either task.
Aug 6, 2014 7:31 PM

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I use guns to cause the injuries that kill people, but I also use my medical knowledge to save people who are sick or have been injured. What am I?
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Aug 6, 2014 7:33 PM

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I use guns to cause the injuries that kill people, but I also use my medical knowledge to save people who are sick or have been injured. What am I?
A Combat Medic


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Guns kill monsters

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A person pulls the trigger.


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Aug 6, 2014 10:33 PM

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Well, a gun isn't just going to fire off a shot if I leave it in a corner, is it? Of course not.
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Aug 6, 2014 10:53 PM

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Guns kill. That's always an age-old problem.

But if guns really killed, then why am I not dead yet, having a closet full of them?
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Guns with mustaches kill people






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Heizei_koukousei said:
Guns with mustaches kill people
And steal our jobs and women.
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