| Although I did like JoJo 2012 more stardust crusaders was stilll very enjoyable. |
| I'm a huge jojo fan, and I do enjoy part 2 more than part 3. (Ive read the first five parts and am on part six, but have not continued part 6 in a long time) Part 3 has always been kind of meh for me. Part 4 is my personal favorite. However, I love the second have of part 3 a lot more than the huge first half. From when they reach egypt onward, I think it's amazing. Therefore, I think when it starts again in 2015, you will be in for a treat. |
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| Part 4 probably wont get animated with part 3's sales. |
SolviteSekai said: Part 4 probably wont get animated with part 3's sales. Wait, part 3 is not selling very well? I heard someone mention it would be a money maker in japan due to it's popularity. I love part 4, and would love to see it animated. Although I don't think part 4 would do well being animated by the people who animated the first 3 parts, as it has a very different tone. |
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| Yep, it's the "villain of the week", generic shonen 'n stuff. I see no problem with the plotholes, though, because explanations never really mattered. It wasn't the point of the show. Jojo was fun because of the over the top reactions, fights etc, still present in some parts of the show when joseph screams "OHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOO", "OH MY GOD", but this is definetly a huge downgrade compared to the previous part. And i miss ripple ;( |
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atmmachine11 said: SolviteSekai said: Part 4 probably wont get animated with part 3's sales. Wait, part 3 is not selling very well? I heard someone mention it would be a money maker in japan due to it's popularity. I love part 4, and would love to see it animated. Although I don't think part 4 would do well being animated by the people who animated the first 3 parts, as it has a very different tone. I heard that Part 3 hasn't been selling well, but I speculate that's because no one really cares for the earlier part of Stardust Crusaders. The second cour (like with D'Arby, Iggy, and ZA WARUDO) will be sure to print money though because those are what people are waiting for. At least, that's what I think. |
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ak184 said: atmmachine11 said: Actually part 3 is selling well, just not as good as the first season (which sold 12k, while SC is about 9k) but it is still in the top of the charts compared to other anime of the spring season, icluding NGNLWait, part 3 is not selling very well? I heard someone mention it would be a money maker in japan due to it's popularity. I love part 4, and would love to see it animated. Although I don't think part 4 would do well being animated by the people who animated the first 3 parts, as it has a very different tone. JabonHR said: atmmachine11 said: Wait, part 3 is not selling very well? I heard someone mention it would be a money maker in japan due to it's popularity. I love part 4, and would love to see it animated. Although I don't think part 4 would do well being animated by the people who animated the first 3 parts, as it has a very different tone. I heard that Part 3 hasn't been selling well, but I speculate that's because no one really cares for the earlier part of Stardust Crusaders. The second cour (like with D'Arby, Iggy, and ZA WARUDO) will be sure to print money though because those are what people are waiting for. At least, that's what I think. I do believe the second half of part 3 is more exciting. And that's good than. Although, anime never sells that great in general, which sucks. Anime is extremely extensive to make, therefore to try and make at least some profit back, they have to sell it expensively. If I remember correctly, anime in japan is more expensive than it is here. And we thought we had it bad with expensive pricing. |
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| I liked them all the same. Probably just blew a few people's minds. 1=2=3 |
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| I agree. Part 1 & 2 when taken as a whole is by far superior to part 3 in ways that became increasingly obvious as the anime progressed but I was too caught up in the moment to notice when reading it. I can see now why my ex dropped the manga at part 3 all those years ago, heh. atmmachine11 said: I'm a huge jojo fan, and I do enjoy part 2 more than part 3. (Ive read the first five parts and am on part six, but have not continued part 6 in a long time) Part 3 has always been kind of meh for me. Part 4 is my personal favorite. However, I love the second have of part 3 a lot more than the huge first half. From when they reach egypt onward, I think it's amazing. Therefore, I think when it starts again in 2015, you will be in for a treat. I personally enjoyed part 2 of the manga the most, followed closely by part 7. It's gold. |
| I'd say I like part 2 slightly better than part 3, mainly due to Joseph being so awesome there. Part 3 has some great humor though. I'm always amazed at how people seem to favor part 4. I'm almost done with it, and I must say, it's just an ok read. It feels slice-of-life-y and none of the characters are all that interesting or entertaining other than Kira. |
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Exaccus said: HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE JOSUKE THAT FUCKING HAIRI'd say I like part 2 slightly better than part 3, mainly due to Joseph being so awesome there. Part 3 has some great humor though. I'm always amazed at how people seem to favor part 4. I'm almost done with it, and I must say, it's just an ok read. It feels slice-of-life-y and none of the characters are all that interesting or entertaining other than Kira. |
| It was alright, though I liked season 1 (especially Battle tendency) much more. Crusaders had some awesome scenes too, but I was kinda annoyed at the parts where it turned into a high school geography lesson or where they explained trivial shit (like scuba diving). It's like Araki suddenly wanted to target the teenage audience more, or just educate people about stuff. |
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sjack said: Exaccus said: It feels slice-of-life-y and none of the characters are all that interesting or entertaining other than Kira. Rohan would like to have a word with you. Pretty much the entire fucking cast, you mean. |
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RedRoseFring said: I liked them all the same. Probably just blew a few people's minds. 1=2=3 Seconded. |
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| Stardust Crusaders is a bit of the testing ground for Araki to write for Stand battles, so it's a little rough around the edges. That being said, I feel like the cast is entertaining enough, though I definitely feel like more character development would be in order. If I had to rank my favorite Jojo Arcs, I'd say: Diamond is Unbreakable > Stone Ocean > Steel Ball Run > Battle Tendency > Stardust Crusaders = Vento Aureo > Phantom Blood |
| Faaarr. I just finished watching this... what a cock tease! They didn't even get into Egypt!!! Now I'd have to wait til 2015 ends before this wraps up?? Oh my gosh. Well at least Jojo and crew found some brains half way and took a plane finally. |
Iro said: Faaarr. I just finished watching this... what a cock tease! They didn't even get into Egypt!!! Now I'd have to wait til 2015 ends before this wraps up?? Oh my gosh. Well at least Jojo and crew found some brains half way and took a plane finally. 1. They aren't taking a plane. 2. They have a pretty good reason for not taking a plane to Egypt. Stop acting like they're stupid for not taking a plane. |
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| Lol dude you like dragon age 2? That dumb down EA pos? No wonder you can't tell the difference between good plot and not. |
Iro said: Lol dude you like dragon age 2? That dumb down EA pos? No wonder you can't tell the difference between good plot and not. My username has nothing to do with anything. Thank you for proving that you only focus on small details/things that have already been explained and cannot focus on whats important. |
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Dragonage2ftw said: Iro said: Lol dude you like dragon age 2? That dumb down EA pos? No wonder you can't tell the difference between good plot and not. My username has nothing to do with anything. Thank you for proving that you only focus on small details/things that have already been explained and cannot focus on whats important. it's what people do when they don't want to admit they're wrong |
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JabonHR said: Dragonage2ftw said: My username has nothing to do with anything. Thank you for proving that you only focus on small details/things that have already been explained and cannot focus on whats important. it's what people do when they don't want to admit they're wrong ^This. |
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JabonHR said: Dragonage2ftw said: My username has nothing to do with anything. Thank you for proving that you only focus on small details/things that have already been explained and cannot focus on whats important. it's what people do when they don't want to admit they're wrong ^This. |
Dragonage2ftw said: Iro said: Lol dude you like dragon age 2? That dumb down EA pos? No wonder you can't tell the difference between good plot and not. My username has nothing to do with anything. Thank you for proving that you only focus on small details/things that have already been explained and cannot focus on whats important. My point is the plot was generic, writing was full of plotholes and Dragon Age 2 was a POS. Since you seemed to like DA2 so much, it was the perfect analogy. Dragon Age 2 = lame dumbed down version of Dragon Age 1 Jojo S2 = lamer dumbed down version of Jojo S1 I'm surprised so many people are defending S2, given with the end it turned out to be essentially just a massive filler for S3. |
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Iro said: Dragonage2ftw said: My username has nothing to do with anything. Thank you for proving that you only focus on small details/things that have already been explained and cannot focus on whats important. My point is the plot was generic, writing was full of plotholes and Dragon Age 2 was a POS. Since you seemed to like DA2 so much, it was the perfect analogy. Dragon Age 2 = lame dumbed down version of Dragon Age 1 Jojo S2 = lamer dumbed down version of Jojo S1 I'm surprised so many people are defending S2, given with the end it turned out to be essentially just a massive filler for S3. 1. People defend this season because the "flaws" that you pointed out are essentially non existent. 2. Again, liking DA2 has nothing to do with anything, analogy or not. |
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Iro said: Dragonage2ftw said: My username has nothing to do with anything. Thank you for proving that you only focus on small details/things that have already been explained and cannot focus on whats important. My point is the plot was generic, writing was full of plotholes and Dragon Age 2 was a POS. Since you seemed to like DA2 so much, it was the perfect analogy. Dragon Age 2 = lame dumbed down version of Dragon Age 1 Jojo S2 = lamer dumbed down version of Jojo S1 I'm surprised so many people are defending S2, given with the end it turned out to be essentially just a massive filler for S3. Yes, in the end JoJo SC sucks because it isn't set in highschool and Jotaro isn't surrounded by girls who want his cock so it could be awesome like Mirai Shitty which you gave a fucking 10 despite how terrible and dumb it was it's mostly because of people like you we get something awesome every 10 years and brainless harem shows every 5 mins. |
Dragonage2ftw said: 1. People defend this season because the "flaws" that you pointed out are essentially non existent. 2. Again, liking DA2 has nothing to do with anything, analogy or not. I've outlined exactly why Season 2 was crap in my first post, if you want to, go ahead and try to refute point by point how the stuff I wrote (going by land like an idiot, monster of the week, pussified Joseph) "didn't exist". The fact is, you don't mind it because you like the writing been dumbing down, just like in DA2. Complicated thinking and plotlines that last more 1 episode makes your head hurt right? ThEoNePugNA said: Yes, in the end JoJo SC sucks because it isn't set in highschool and Jotaro isn't surrounded by girls who want his cock so it could be awesome like Mirai Shitty which you gave a fucking 10 despite how terrible and dumb it was it's mostly because of people like you we get something awesome every 10 years and brainless harem shows every 5 mins. Rofl what show were you watching? Are you braindead? If so, no wonder, go fire up episode 1 and tell me Jotaro wasn't surrounded by girls who want to suck his cock. And you want to say Mirrai Nikki is a harem? Its not even in the same genre, get a clue. I doubt you even know what a harem means. |
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Iro said: Dragonage2ftw said: 1. People defend this season because the "flaws" that you pointed out are essentially non existent. 2. Again, liking DA2 has nothing to do with anything, analogy or not. I've outlined exactly why Season 2 was crap in my first post, if you want to, go ahead and try to refute point by point how the stuff I wrote (going by land like an idiot, monster of the week, pussified Joseph) "didn't exist". The fact is, you don't mind it because you like the writing been dumbing down, just like in DA2. Complicated thinking and plotlines that last more 1 episode makes your head hurt right? ThEoNePugNA said: Yes, in the end JoJo SC sucks because it isn't set in highschool and Jotaro isn't surrounded by girls who want his cock so it could be awesome like Mirai Shitty which you gave a fucking 10 despite how terrible and dumb it was it's mostly because of people like you we get something awesome every 10 years and brainless harem shows every 5 mins. Rofl what show were you watching? Are you braindead? If so, no wonder, go fire up episode 1 and tell me Jotaro wasn't surrounded by girls who want to suck his cock. And you want to say Mirrai Nikki is a harem? Its not even in the same genre, get a clue. I doubt you even know what a harem means. 1. Several people and I have already talked about how your initial complaints are not legitimate. 2. Resorting to ad hominem won't win you any arguments. |
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Saandro said: Iro said: I've outlined exactly why Season 2 was crap in my first post, if you want to, go ahead and try to refute point by point how the stuff I wrote (going by land like an idiot, monster of the week, pussified Joseph) "didn't exist". While going by land was explained with them not wanting to hurt too many civilians, I agree they could have just taken a plane. They did take one anyway, and I think they could have done so sooner. Being epsiodic doesn't mean it's inherently bad. And Joseph is not ''pussified'', he is actually exactly the same as he was in part 2, only 50 years older. As for the writing, it hasn't been dumbed down at all. In fact, the writing is exactly the same. And it certainly is much better than that of Sword art online, which you've rated a 10. Don't even talk about writing when you have no idea what it means. ^This. |
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| SAO is literally light years better than season 2. Season 1 could comparatively go against this with its witty humour and decent villians but season 2 is just generic monster of the week trash. SAO had a thrilling storyline that had tension, high stakes, betrayal and one of the best romance chemistries between mcs I've seen in an anime. It was well executed, had good planning and a bad ass mc who knew how to think. In contrast season 2 was just a lazy meadering filler series that had no tension and didn't resolve. Case in point, Jojo's mother was dying from her stand and what does Jojo do? That dumbass, rather than take a plane that would of ended the trip to Egypt in a few hours, they spent MONTHS meandering around asia and middle east riding camels, cracking jokes. That's the attitude the writers had, totally destroying any urgency and tension they had in the series. Rather than just saying season 2 was better than SAO, actually make an argument with examples why it was so good. But what's that you can't? Then you have obviously have no clue just like the other poster that couldn't even tell what happened in the first episode. |
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Iro said: SAO is literally light years better than season 2. Season 1 could comparatively go against this with its witty humour and decent villians but season 2 is just generic monster of the week trash. SAO had a thrilling storyline that had tension, high stakes, betrayal and one of the best romance chemistries between mcs I've seen in an anime. It was well executed, had good planning and a bad ass mc who knew how to think. In contrast season 2 was just a lazy meadering filler series that had no tension and didn't resolve. Case in point, Jojo's mother was dying from her stand and what does Jojo do? That dumbass, rather than take a plane that would of ended the trip to Egypt in a few hours, they spent MONTHS meandering around asia and middle east riding camels, cracking jokes. That's the attitude the writers had, totally destroying any urgency and tension they had in the series. Rather than just saying season 2 was better than SAO, actually make an argument with examples why it was so good. But what's that you can't? Then you have obviously have no clue just like the other poster that couldn't even tell what happened in the first episode. We already told you this- THEY AREN'T TAKING A PLANE BECAUSE THEY'D BE PUTTING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN DANGER IF THEY DID. THEY MADE IT CLEAR THAT HOLLY HAS ONE MONTH BEFORE SHE DIES. PAY ATTENTION TO THE SHOW THAT YOU ARE CRITICIZING. Also, Stardust Crusaders isn't even done yet. The whole point of season 2 is that it was supposed to be an experiment of what the writer could do with stands. Also, that other poster's point still stands. While they did show that Jotaro is surrounded by girls that like him, this was only shown for 10 seconds before they decided to change the setting. Educate yourself. Please. |
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gedata said: ^Should've let this thread go under. I wouldn't have read that cancerous post if you hadn't bumped it Well, someone has to fight stupidity. |
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| obligatory reminder that Part 3 >>>>>>> Part 2 Jotaro >>>>>>> Joseph |
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| “I read somewhere stardust crusaders was the most popular in Japan because Jotaro was the first Japanese jojo or something. Lol.” And wherever you read that was wrong. The part is popular because it changed manga forever. |
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clippert0n said: I have to agree, Part 2 really takes the cake for me and Part 3 has been pretty disappointing, still good but I was seriously hyped after part 2 and it's kind of been a let down so far. None of the characters stand out in any way at all, I get that Jotaro is supposed to be a calm, cool, quiet badass but I really need some characterization other than him glaring and mumbling "yare yare daze", and Joseph is a sad watered down husk of what I loved in part 2, his main form of comedy seems to be shouting random english phrases in broken english (which worked a little better with sugita, not so much with whoever this VA is). Sometimes the characters show some bright spots, but it's not consistent enough to the point where I feel like they have their own distinct personalities. People can complain that part 2 had some major asspulls in the story, but I enjoyed those asspulls with some sense of wit over Jotaro's stand being so OP that it starts to sound like something a 7 year old would come up with and isn't satisfying to watch at all. Also lol at the person who said that Joseph being able to fly a plane and surviving the end of part 2 broke his immersion, that's what did it? really? What show did you think you were watching for the previous 23 episodes? The Stand fights have more strategy. Jotaro hasn’t won by being “OP” at all. |
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