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Jul 30, 2014 2:18 PM

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Annie's maniac blushing whatever laughter was unnecessary.
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Kellhus said:
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Sapewloth said:
Annie's maniac blushing whatever laughter was unnecessary.


It's so hot! But it was necessary Isayama included it himself in the anime, he said she laugh because it was a relief for her for stop acting like someone she's not.

Edit. here's the quote from Isayama himself. "sense of "release" from feelings like "guilt" "lonliness" "fear". It's Annie laughing from the burden of having to put on a cold face to distant her self from other people, that the laugh is the "real" annie."

So in the end, the cold Annie isn't the real Annie, what you saw from her was a act.
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Overrated. Jojo series, lame cliche characters, stupid story, characters like to shout!
You do know jojo was a parody series of the shounens(specifically hokuto no ken) at the time right? Its cliches were intentional.


I'm not sure if Jojo was meant to be a parody (it came out the same time stuff like HnK were the norm), but even if it wasn't it's still pretty funny.

Also, you don't come to a 80s shounen expecting nuanced characterization, and deep thought provoking storylines, there's a place for that. There's also a place for hilarious, corny, and outright bizarre action tales and Jojo's is were it's at.
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Flint the Time Detective is underrated. Ranking at #5237, with the popularity rank at #2903, Flint the Time Detective, despite being aimed at children (or All Ages), is a pretty good episodic show.

It's like a mixture of Dragon Ball and Pokemon, but with time travel. Main character is similar to kid Goku, and the timeshifters are cute and have great designs. The villains are hilarious, and more tolerable than Team Rocket. The art style is good, it's fast-paced, it has good action, likeable characters, a good opening theme and soundtrack.
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i liked annie more when her name was pakunoda
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Blasphemy! Starting a new thread without one of the top shitposters of the previous one.


keragamming said:
Attack on titan is underrated needs more love.

Nah man, not cool. You don't say shit like this here.

keragamming said:
Overrated. Jojo series, lame cliche characters, stupid story, characters are one dimensional. This series is cool for being lame.
Never mind, you're cool.

keragamming said:
HXH 2011 is also overrated good series, but people are over praising this series for little minor things like the psychological theme and also because it's a bit more darker than other shounen series.
Wrong opinion man. I thought you were cool.

Death Note is underrated, it gets a lot of unjustified hate just because it's popular.

Fate/Zero is underrated, gets everything right and has stunning art and animation.

Monster is underrated, the only perfect anime besides Death Note, and the only anime I'd be okay with being ranked/rated higher than Death Note.

Overrated garbage:
Yuno Gasai is a cool yandere: The Anime

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gedata said:
JizzyHitler said:
You do know jojo was a parody series of the shounens(specifically hokuto no ken) at the time right? Its cliches were intentional.


I'm not sure if Jojo was meant to be a parody (it came out the same time stuff like HnK were the norm), but even if it wasn't it's still pretty funny.
It actually was a parody on purpose, thats why johnathan's outfit was almost a plagarism of kenshiro's, it eventually stopped being a parody and kind of became its own crazy creation but its roots were in parody.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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Botato said:

Death Note is underrated, it gets a lot of unjustified hate just because it's popular.

Fate/Zero is underrated, gets everything right and has stunning art and animation.

Monster is underrated, the only perfect anime besides Death Note, and the only anime I'd be okay with being ranked/rated higher than Death Note.
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How are those anime underrated? They're all under 40 in rank?
Jul 30, 2014 2:33 PM

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JumpinJackFlash said:
Flint the Time Detective is underrated. Ranking at #5237, with the popularity rank at #2903, Flint the Time Detective, despite being aimed at children (or All Ages), is a pretty good episodic show.

It's like a mixture of Dragon Ball and Pokemon, but with time travel. Main character is similar to kid Goku, and the timeshifters are cute and have great designs. The villains are hilarious, and more tolerable than Team Rocket. The art style is good, it's fast-paced, it has good action, likeable characters, a good opening theme and soundtrack.


man I used to love that show, forgot what it was called so I never looked it up

thanks dude
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MrLief said:
Botato said:

Death Note is underrated, it gets a lot of unjustified hate just because it's popular.

Fate/Zero is underrated, gets everything right and has stunning art and animation.

Monster is underrated, the only perfect anime besides Death Note, and the only anime I'd be okay with being ranked/rated higher than Death Note.
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How are those anime underrated? They're all under 40 in rank?


Because Botato is implying that it should be higher, maybe top 10 on mal.
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MrLief said:
Botato said:

Death Note is underrated, it gets a lot of unjustified hate just because it's popular.

Fate/Zero is underrated, gets everything right and has stunning art and animation.

Monster is underrated, the only perfect anime besides Death Note, and the only anime I'd be okay with being ranked/rated higher than Death Note.
Shit Kill la Shit Kill


How are those anime underrated? They're all under 40 in rank?


i understand what you are saying

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keragamming said:
MrLief said:


How are those anime underrated? They're all under 40 in rank?


Because Botato is implying that it should be higher, maybe top 10 on mal.
Death Note must be #1
Followed by Monster
Followed by Geass both seasons + F/Z both seasons.
Then I don't care about the rest.
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I found Death Note to be pretty much unwatchable, its so over dramatic to the point it becomes cringeworthy and makes it hard for me to take seriously, 4/10 at best. Manga was alright I guess.
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keragamming said:
Sapewloth said:
Annie's maniac blushing whatever laughter was unnecessary.


It's so hot! But it was necessary Isayama included it himself in the anime, he said she laugh because it was a relief for her for stop acting like someone she's not.

Edit. here's the quote from Isayama himself. "sense of "release" from feelings like "guilt" "lonliness" "fear". It's Annie laughing from the burden of having to put on a cold face to distant her self from other people, that the laugh is the "real" annie."

So in the end, the cold Annie isn't the real Annie, what you saw from her was a act.
Yes, I did know about that and it seemed perfectly reasonable to me that he'd want to implement a nervous laugh, considering she's most likely been under a shitload of pressure for months, and possibly years.
But the additional blushing and the very suggestive tone was imho, very unecessary and made for a totally awkward and "wut?" moment when it could've been a scene that would've made perfect sense, had the "craziness" been kept at a lower level.
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Kellhus said:
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Feaor said:
I found Death Note to be pretty much unwatchable, its so over dramatic to the point it becomes cringeworthy and makes it hard for me to take seriously, 4/10 at best. Manga was alright I guess.

I previewed it months ago but didn't make it past ep6? Comparing to the first 6 of Monster, I'm not sure how you could talk about it in the same sentence. I'm gonna have to watch it at some point though, so I'll suspend judgement until then.
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Feaor said:
I found Death Note to be pretty much unwatchable, its so over dramatic to the point it becomes cringeworthy and makes it hard for me to take seriously, 4/10 at best. Manga was alright I guess.

The manga was incredibly dry in comparison with its anime adaptation. Araki really gave life to Death Note.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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fate/zero and the fate series in general is stupidly overrated

it relies on plot convenience, asspulls and retcons to further the story. the first episode is 40 minutes yet they could have done that in 2 episodes since they had a filler episode later in season 1. that's another issue; fillers. how can a 13 episode series have fillers? I'll tell you why, bad planning and pacing. the majority of its fanbase are like babies who like shiny things, in this case the animation which is fantastic. type moon as a whole are completely incompetent when it comes to writing (the visual novels are absolutely atrocious) and this certainly shows. the characters are dull and unengaging with forced interactions that feel awkward and are in general a chore to watch. the series uses too much explanation which makes everything feel boring and dragged out. the fights are painfully bad, asspull after asspull and last for ages.

overall, it's a piece of overrated shiny shit
Jul 30, 2014 2:50 PM
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Ratohnhaketon said:
Might I remind everyone how criminally underrated Tamayura is? It's such a great way to kick back and relax, its calming, easy going pace and atmosphere is reminiscent to Aria the Animation although they both strive for different overlying themes. It's much more grounded in reality as well which is what I think gives it an edge in how much one can relate to what's going on. The way they use photography to explore the characters and certain themes/life lessons is inspiring and a one of a kind experience.


It's certainly a very nice and relaxing experience, but I think it was too short for its own good. Also, the characters definitely need more consistency, the show is good to watch, easy going, calm with nice atmosphere, but it's lackluster. But I'm speaking about the first Tamayura, I don't know about the sequels, and I hope they improve these aspects.
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Sapewloth said:
keragamming said:


It's so hot! But it was necessary Isayama included it himself in the anime, he said she laugh because it was a relief for her for stop acting like someone she's not.

Edit. here's the quote from Isayama himself. "sense of "release" from feelings like "guilt" "lonliness" "fear". It's Annie laughing from the burden of having to put on a cold face to distant her self from other people, that the laugh is the "real" annie."

So in the end, the cold Annie isn't the real Annie, what you saw from her was a act.
Yes, I did know about that and it seemed perfectly reasonable to me that he'd want to implement a nervous laugh, considering she's most likely been under a shitload of pressure for months, and possibly years.
But the additional blushing and the very suggestive tone was imho, very unecessary and made for a totally awkward and "wut?" moment when it could've been a scene that would've made perfect sense, had the "craziness" been kept at a lower level.


Yea, the blushing was a bit too much. Well, this how Isayama draw her to be animated. Who knows maybe Annie likes to blush, at the end of the day what we saw wasn't her, but I agree it was a bit cringe worthy when I saw it the first time.

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Feaor said:
I found Death Note to be pretty much unwatchable, its so over dramatic to the point it becomes cringeworthy and makes it hard for me to take seriously, 4/10 at best. Manga was alright I guess.
how could you not love how over dramatic death note is also like sapewolth said the manga is pretty dry.
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JD2411 said:
it relies on plot convenience, asspulls and retcons

This is the pot calling the kettle black. You like Fairy Tail don't you, a series that completely relies on asspulls?
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MrLief said:
JD2411 said:
it relies on plot convenience, asspulls and retcons

This is the pot calling the kettle black. You like Fairy Tail don't you, a series that completely relies on asspulls?
nice red herring fallacy
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@kera Not surprised. I figured Isayama wouldn't be the one who decided on the extra-blush.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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JD2411 said:
MrLief said:

This is the pot calling the kettle black. You like Fairy Tail don't you, a series that completely relies on asspulls?
nice red herring fallacy

Well, you didn't really list any actual asspulls so I don't need to argue against it.
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Bartender

Has this one ever been mentioned here? Looks interesting and creative. If this is the character driven work it sounds like, I'm all over it.
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Feaor said:
I found Death Note to be pretty much unwatchable, its so over dramatic to the point it becomes cringeworthy and makes it hard for me to take seriously, 4/10 at best. Manga was alright I guess.
how could you not love how over dramatic death note is also like sapewolth said the manga is pretty dry. [spoiler]
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Stuff like that, how Light writes, and just how much of dialog is delivered in general just absolutely brought me out of the experience because it made it impossible for me to take it seriously. Not to mention that the story takes a huge nose dive in quality and the second half is pretty forgettable outside of a few events. Granted it has been like 8 years since I last watched any of it so I honestly don't remember most of it, I do remember being disappointed in comparison to the manga.
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Bartender

Has this one ever been mentioned here? Looks interesting and creative. If this is the character driven work it sounds like, I'm all over it.

I gave it a 9. It's painfully underrated here.
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onefairyeater said:
Feaor said:
I found Death Note to be pretty much unwatchable, its so over dramatic to the point it becomes cringeworthy and makes it hard for me to take seriously, 4/10 at best. Manga was alright I guess.
how could you not love how over dramatic death note is also like sapewolth said the manga is pretty dry.

I tend to prefer this one.

Oh my God finally found an occasion to post that fucking gif
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Mawaru Penguindrum is underrated, defintely deserves at least to be in the hundreds.
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Shounen Hollywood's stats are criminal.
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JD2411 said:
fate/zero and the fate series in general is stupidly overrated

it relies on plot convenience, asspulls and retcons to further the story. the first episode is 40 minutes yet they could have done that in 2 episodes since they had a filler episode later in season 1. that's another issue; fillers. how can a 13 episode series have fillers? I'll tell you why, bad planning and pacing. the majority of its fanbase are like babies who like shiny things, in this case the animation which is fantastic. type moon as a whole are completely incompetent when it comes to writing (the visual novels are absolutely atrocious) and this certainly shows. the characters are dull and unengaging with forced interactions that feel awkward and are in general a chore to watch. the series uses too much explanation which makes everything feel boring and dragged out. the fights are painfully bad, asspull after asspull and last for ages.

overall, it's a piece of overrated shiny shit
Confirmed shit post.
There are no asspulls.
There are no retcons.
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Kolnikov said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
Might I remind everyone how criminally underrated Tamayura is? It's such a great way to kick back and relax, its calming, easy going pace and atmosphere is reminiscent to Aria the Animation although they both strive for different overlying themes. It's much more grounded in reality as well which is what I think gives it an edge in how much one can relate to what's going on. The way they use photography to explore the characters and certain themes/life lessons is inspiring and a one of a kind experience.


It's certainly a very nice and relaxing experience, but I think it was too short for its own good. Also, the characters definitely need more consistency, the show is good to watch, easy going, calm with nice atmosphere, but it's lackluster. But I'm speaking about the first Tamayura, I don't know about the sequels, and I hope they improve these aspects.
I felt that way for a good portion of the first season Hitotose, but once I got to More Aggressive (S2), something clicked that made me see the entire show in a better light. I mainly posted that because I'm still fresh off my feel good hype from the recent OVA. It wasn't anything incredible but the simplicity moved me deeply and almost brought me to tears of joy.

As for more, there might be a possibility for that. This Sunday there's supposed to be a Tamayura event in Japan and they're going to make an announcement. I don't want to get my own hopes up so it's speculation at best right now, but if a S3 comes through for me then I will strip my profile naked and rebuild it in Tamayura's name.
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Underrated: Black Jack 1993 OVA http://myanimelist.net/anime/1520/Black_Jack Really nice episodic drama anime.

Please Teacher. Gets to the relationship in the blink of an eye, no beating around the bush for the majority of the anime. IMO one of the best younger guy x older woman romance anime. I guess it does have cliches but that could be said for most romcoms.

Ah My Goddess http://myanimelist.net/anime/50/Aa!_Megami-sama!_%28TV%29 Nice fantasy romcom with a nadeshiko as main love interest instead of an annoying tsundere.
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Botato said:
JD2411 said:
fate/zero and the fate series in general is stupidly overrated

it relies on plot convenience, asspulls and retcons to further the story. the first episode is 40 minutes yet they could have done that in 2 episodes since they had a filler episode later in season 1. that's another issue; fillers. how can a 13 episode series have fillers? I'll tell you why, bad planning and pacing. the majority of its fanbase are like babies who like shiny things, in this case the animation which is fantastic. type moon as a whole are completely incompetent when it comes to writing (the visual novels are absolutely atrocious) and this certainly shows. the characters are dull and unengaging with forced interactions that feel awkward and are in general a chore to watch. the series uses too much explanation which makes everything feel boring and dragged out. the fights are painfully bad, asspull after asspull and last for ages.

overall, it's a piece of overrated shiny shit
Confirmed shit post.
There are no asspulls.
There are no retcons.
I criticised more than just the asspulls and retcons

and there are asspulls every single fight (saber vs lancer being just one example). and yes there are lots of retcons, the most prominent being with the command spells
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It didn't take long for this thread to become... you know...
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STAHPPPPPPP. Please don't make lists of Under/Over. I'm pretty sure the rules state "Discuss your reason behind it being over/underrated." Users that continue to just post lists will be warned for spam.

Possible in near future to get a general anime discussion thread?
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Is my post the one guilty of this? I did include underrated but I did explain why I think they are underrated.
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Tyrel said:
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Is my post the one guilty of this? I did include underrated but I did explain why I think they are underrated.
It wasn't deleted, so no.

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Tyrel said:
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Possible in near future to get a general anime discussion thread?
Not my decision, sadly.
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It didn't take long for this thread to become... you know...
Didn't take long for you to... you know.... come back....
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nobunaga con concerto may have been passed up by alot of people because of its sloppy first episode and its pretty painful visuals, but I think its a show alot of people should keep an eye out for as the 2nd episode was pretty damn good and has loads of potential for future episodes especially given that this will be a 2 cour series(though i could had sworn someone said this was a split cour) Its got a pretty good sense of humor and it has a pretty good sense of when to do tonal shifts.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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Tyrel said:
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Is my post the one guilty of this? I did include underrated but I did explain why I think they are underrated.
It wasn't deleted, so no.
Oh my apologies I thought it was my post.
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Yeah, annoying those who annoy me is a defense mechanism.

Why not just ban specific users from this thread. That will cut down the spam by at least a half.
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nobunaga con concerto may have been passed up by alot of people because of its sloppy first episode and its pretty painful visuals, but I think its a show alot of people should keep an eye out for as the 2nd episode was pretty damn good and has loads of potential for future episodes especially given that this will be a 2 cour series(though i could had sworn someone said this was a split cour) Its got a pretty good sense of humor and it has a pretty good sense of when to do tonal shifts.
I agree but I actually did like the first episode. Even though I would of preferred if it wasn't CG the CG doesn't really bother me. The animation looks kind of stiff sometimes though.
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Ratohnhaketon said:
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It's certainly a very nice and relaxing experience, but I think it was too short for its own good. Also, the characters definitely need more consistency, the show is good to watch, easy going, calm with nice atmosphere, but it's lackluster. But I'm speaking about the first Tamayura, I don't know about the sequels, and I hope they improve these aspects.
I felt that way for a good portion of the first season Hitotose, but once I got to More Aggressive (S2), something clicked that made me see the entire show in a better light. I mainly posted that because I'm still fresh off my feel good hype from the recent OVA. It wasn't anything incredible but the simplicity moved me deeply and almost brought me to tears of joy.

As for more, there might be a possibility for that. This Sunday there's supposed to be a Tamayura event in Japan and they're going to make an announcement. I don't want to get my own hopes up so it's speculation at best right now, but if a S3 comes through for me then I will strip my profile naked and rebuild it in Tamayura's name.


Yeah, I need yet to watch them. I'm a big fan of this kind of simplicity over conventional drama since I watched Hanasaku Iroha and Non Non Biyori. Although Hanasaku Iroha has some drama, I think is a much more natural kind of show. Somehow that brings me much more joy than usual.
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JD2411 said:
Botato said:
Confirmed shit post.
There are no asspulls.
There are no retcons.
I criticised more than just the asspulls and retcons

and there are asspulls every single fight (saber vs lancer being just one example). and yes there are lots of retcons, the most prominent being with the command spells
Explanations were adequate.
The characters are not dull and unengaging.
The interactions are not forced and awkward.
The bold part is not a valid criticism.

And you never gave any examples for "asspull after asspull."
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Yeah, annoying those who annoy me is a defense mechanism.

Why not just ban specific users from this thread. That will cut down the discussion by at least three fourths.
That's what it's gonna do, as well.
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Kellhus said:
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Akame ga Kill is overrated. Laughable backstory, lame character and horrible tone shift all over the series.
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NeoAnkara said:
Akame ga Kill is overrated. Laughable backstory, lame character and horrible tone shift all over the series.


Yeah... It's like Nagi no Asukara, but rather than trying half-assed melodrama, it's trying to be edgy.
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