mattbenz99 said: JD2411 said: JD i think we found a subject other than clannad that we agree onthis is so fucking stupid just let them all have guns so they can kill each-other and we can be done with that 3rd world shit hole I saw that |
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mattbenz99 said: if 2 or more people are shooting each other then how will the police know who the mass shooter really is when they arrive? Bob starts shooting a bunch of people, so Alice starts shooting at Bob to stop him. But then Matt sees Alice shooting and he thinks she's the shooter and so he shoots at Alice, but Tom knows Alice isn't the shooter because he saw Bob start shooting, so he shoots at Matt because he assumes Matt is an accomplice, but then Karl sees Tom shooting at Matt and he shoots Tom, but then Bob notices that everyone is shooting at each other and he slips out. Timmy, Johnny, and Billy all bust in with their shotguns (cause they heard the shots from outside) and they start shooting at everyone because they think everyone is a mass-killer. Gertrude, Harold, and Fionna get tired of the idiocy and pull out their guns and just kill everyone. Yeah, I've heard this argument before, and it's fucking retarded. Who the fuck just starts shooting at random people? People aren't brainless morons. Everyone would just hit the deck and Alice, Matt, Tom, Karl, Gertrude, Harold, and Fionna would blast Bob into oblivion, and then Johnny, Timmy, and Billy would come in, see that the area is secure, and call the cops to come clean up the mess. That is, if Bob was even willing to try starting a mass-shooting if he knew for damn sure that every "target" was actually a walking fucking armory. |
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DerpHole said: mattbenz99 said: JD i think we found a subject other than clannad that we agree on I saw that lololol! |
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StopDropAndBowl said: yes under extreme stress humans are idiots.mattbenz99 said: if 2 or more people are shooting each other then how will the police know who the mass shooter really is when they arrive? Bob starts shooting a bunch of people, so Alice starts shooting at Bob to stop him. But then Matt sees Alice shooting and he thinks she's the shooter and so he shoots at Alice, but Tom knows Alice isn't the shooter because he saw Bob start shooting, so he shoots at Matt because he assumes Matt is an accomplice, but then Karl sees Tom shooting at Matt and he shoots Tom, but then Bob notices that everyone is shooting at each other and he slips out. Timmy, Johnny, and Billy all bust in with their shotguns (cause they heard the shots from outside) and they start shooting at everyone because they think everyone is a mass-killer. Gertrude, Harold, and Fionna get tired of the idiocy and pull out their guns and just kill everyone. Yeah, I've heard this argument before, and it's fucking retarded. Who the fuck just starts shooting at random people? People aren't brainless morons. Everyone would just hit the deck and Alice, Matt, Tom, Karl, Gertrude, Harold, and Fionna would blast Bob into oblivion, and then Johnny, Timmy, and Billy would come in, see that the area is secure, and call the cops to come clean up the mess. That is, if Bob was even willing to try starting a mass-shooting if he knew for damn sure that every "target" was actually a walking fucking armory. |
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UnoPuntoCinco said: 'muricans are like FAT cowboys with lots of money, ha! Yup. |
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ParaParaJMo said: bullshit with you Switzerland talk. people talk about Switzerland like there is 0 regulation on guns and thus no crime but that is bullshit. Switzerland has plenty of regulation on guns and bullets. please do some actual researchWell I'd rather be in USA than lets say Honduras or wherever. Russian and Chinese government have committed mass murders against its own people. UK still has a relatively violent crime rate in Europe compared to Switzerland which has the least gun related laws and one of the lowest crime rates in Europe. Fire arms related crimes in America have actually been decreasing the last 20 years. Chicago for its strictest gun laws in America still has the highest gun related crimes in the country. |
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ParaParaJMo said: they may have less than the rest of the eu but they still have much more regulation than the united states. i mean in many states you dont need a background check to sell a gun second hand. think about that all someone needs to do to get a gun is drive a few hours to a state like that buy one and drive back. that is why there is so much gun crime in chicago because to get a gun you only need to drive a few hours.mattbenz99 said: bullshit with you Switzerland talk. people talk about Switzerland like there is 0 regulation on guns and thus no crime but that is bullshit. Switzerland has plenty of regulation on guns and bullets. please do some actual research I never said there were no fire arms regulations and/or that they were non-existant in Switzerland, just that it had the least in the EU and tends to have a lower crime rate than England. Hell, like I said, Chicago has the strictest fire arm regulations in the country and look at how that is working out. |
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cabacc2 said: the founding fathers certainly didnt think about full automatic assault rifles when they made the constitution. I think the existence of assault rifles would only have made them even more adamant that there needs to be a right to bear arms. |
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StopDropAndBowl said: how?cabacc2 said: the founding fathers certainly didnt think about full automatic assault rifles when they made the constitution. I think the existence of assault rifles would only have made them even more adamant that there needs to be a right to bear arms. |
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cabacc2 said: the founding fathers certainly didnt think about full automatic assault rifles when they made the constitution. This video shows, yet again, the need for education. They comparison that guy made is beyond ridiculous. Additionally, he didnt actually justify his claim of guns being "necessary". He just portrayed this completely lunatic scenario. What a failure. the puckle gun was invented in 1718 it had the ability to go full auto based off a crank only problame is it was years ahead of its time when they didnt have shells and what not. the Gatling gun was later based off it too. don't give me that rot that the founding fathers were not aware of the evolution of guns |
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MrAnimeFan said: I think that all gun owners should undergo a basic shooter's training in order to receive a permit to own a gun of any sort. Furthermore, all fees of this training would go towards federal trainers (I'm talking about hiring Vets). During this trial period, besides the background checks all gun owners are subject to, the trainers are to observe closely the mental state of each gun owner that they train. Therefore the trainers themselves need to be checked on an advisably semi-annual basis. They must also go through training themselves where they are taught to notice signs of unhealthy mental states. This way, people can learn to use guns, and the government can moderate who uses and controls guns. The rest of the logistics can be worked out. I own a Russian, Izhmash-made Saiga rifle, CA Legal version, never fully modified it to look like an AK but a Saiga instead. I also own a Saiga shotgun, TOZ-78 (Also known as Winchester Wildcat) and a Tokarev-33 Pistol. Each gun registered, licensed, and legal. My uncle has served in the military and he has taught me to use the weapons. Personally I am for the usage of weapons--anyone remember the case of the woman with a baby and a shotgun, when a thief entered her house? If she hadn't that shotgun, and if she hadn't fired the gun, she might've lost her life, her baby, or have been raped, or any number of possible negative consequences. http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder911-operators-shoot/story?id=15285605 |
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Jayex said: MrAnimeFan said: I think that all gun owners should undergo a basic shooter's training in order to receive a permit to own a gun of any sort. Furthermore, all fees of this training would go towards federal trainers (I'm talking about hiring Vets). During this trial period, besides the background checks all gun owners are subject to, the trainers are to observe closely the mental state of each gun owner that they train. Therefore the trainers themselves need to be checked on an advisably semi-annual basis. They must also go through training themselves where they are taught to notice signs of unhealthy mental states. This way, people can learn to use guns, and the government can moderate who uses and controls guns. The rest of the logistics can be worked out. I own a Russian, Izhmash-made Saiga rifle, CA Legal version, never fully modified it to look like an AK but a Saiga instead. I also own a Saiga shotgun, TOZ-78 (Also known as Winchester Wildcat) and a Tokarev-33 Pistol. Each gun registered, licensed, and legal. My uncle has served in the military and he has taught me to use the weapons. Personally I am for the usage of weapons--anyone remember the case of the woman with a baby and a shotgun, when a thief entered her house? If she hadn't that shotgun, and if she hadn't fired the gun, she might've lost her life, her baby, or have been raped, or any number of possible negative consequences. http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder911-operators-shoot/story?id=15285605 I am for minor background checking because it helps stop the bad guys somewhat but in the end they will always have a gun. as for a government needing to know what I own or have, they dont. gun registration is the first step to gun confiscation and history has proven that. |
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mattbenz99 said: Ok can we all just agree that the musket is the coolest gun ever? I mean you shoot it and it is like an explosion with the noise and smoke cloud it creates. Yes! Known for its superb and ultimate accuracy! Oh my goodness! The reality is a cheap hunting rifle like a Winchester Wildcat shoots straighter than that thing. Unless you're a beast 18th century sniper. |
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MrAnimeFan said: Jayex said: I think that all gun owners should undergo a basic shooter's training in order to receive a permit to own a gun of any sort. Furthermore, all fees of this training would go towards federal trainers (I'm talking about hiring Vets). During this trial period, besides the background checks all gun owners are subject to, the trainers are to observe closely the mental state of each gun owner that they train. Therefore the trainers themselves need to be checked on an advisably semi-annual basis. They must also go through training themselves where they are taught to notice signs of unhealthy mental states. This way, people can learn to use guns, and the government can moderate who uses and controls guns. The rest of the logistics can be worked out. I own a Russian, Izhmash-made Saiga rifle, CA Legal version, never fully modified it to look like an AK but a Saiga instead. I also own a Saiga shotgun, TOZ-78 (Also known as Winchester Wildcat) and a Tokarev-33 Pistol. Each gun registered, licensed, and legal. My uncle has served in the military and he has taught me to use the weapons. Personally I am for the usage of weapons--anyone remember the case of the woman with a baby and a shotgun, when a thief entered her house? If she hadn't that shotgun, and if she hadn't fired the gun, she might've lost her life, her baby, or have been raped, or any number of possible negative consequences. http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder911-operators-shoot/story?id=15285605 I am for minor background checking because it helps stop the bad guys somewhat but in the end they will always have a gun. as for a government needing to know what I own or have, they dont. gun registration is the first step to gun confiscation and history has proven that. That's true. I haven't quite put as much consideration into all that as you have. I'll think about the words you have written. But then again, I'm against excessive regulation for that very reason--people who are willing to do evil, will attain the means in which to commit that evil, using illegal methods. So who gets screwed by excessive regulation? The poor, innocent, law-abiding citizen who doesn't even have a decent six-shooter to hold off them baddies. |
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Jayex said: MrAnimeFan said: I am for minor background checking because it helps stop the bad guys somewhat but in the end they will always have a gun. as for a government needing to know what I own or have, they dont. gun registration is the first step to gun confiscation and history has proven that. That's true. I haven't quite put as much consideration into all that as you have. I'll think about the words you have written. But then again, I'm against excessive regulation for that very reason--people who are willing to do evil, will attain the means in which to commit that evil, using illegal methods. So who gets screwed by excessive regulation? The poor, innocent, law-abiding citizen who doesn't even have a decent six-shooter to hold off them baddies. there you go thats the rightful thinking i like to here. as for guns i own a lot man. Aks M4s, Belt Feds, Full autos. i really like my AKMs and i like my 338 Lapua R-700. just a few to mention |
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Jayex said: I said cool not efficient. There is a difference.mattbenz99 said: Ok can we all just agree that the musket is the coolest gun ever? I mean you shoot it and it is like an explosion with the noise and smoke cloud it creates. Yes! Known for its superb and ultimate accuracy! Oh my goodness! The reality is a cheap hunting rifle like a Winchester Wildcat shoots straighter than that thing. Unless you're a beast 18th century sniper. |
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MrAnimeFan said: in many states there are no laws requiring background checks for second hand guns sales or any regulation on them at all. That is where most of the guns used by criminals come from. I mean if you live in America all you need to do is drive a few hours and you can get a gun no questions askedJayex said: I think that all gun owners should undergo a basic shooter's training in order to receive a permit to own a gun of any sort. Furthermore, all fees of this training would go towards federal trainers (I'm talking about hiring Vets). During this trial period, besides the background checks all gun owners are subject to, the trainers are to observe closely the mental state of each gun owner that they train. Therefore the trainers themselves need to be checked on an advisably semi-annual basis. They must also go through training themselves where they are taught to notice signs of unhealthy mental states. This way, people can learn to use guns, and the government can moderate who uses and controls guns. The rest of the logistics can be worked out. I own a Russian, Izhmash-made Saiga rifle, CA Legal version, never fully modified it to look like an AK but a Saiga instead. I also own a Saiga shotgun, TOZ-78 (Also known as Winchester Wildcat) and a Tokarev-33 Pistol. Each gun registered, licensed, and legal. My uncle has served in the military and he has taught me to use the weapons. Personally I am for the usage of weapons--anyone remember the case of the woman with a baby and a shotgun, when a thief entered her house? If she hadn't that shotgun, and if she hadn't fired the gun, she might've lost her life, her baby, or have been raped, or any number of possible negative consequences. http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder911-operators-shoot/story?id=15285605 I am for minor background checking because it helps stop the bad guys somewhat but in the end they will always have a gun. as for a government needing to know what I own or have, they dont. gun registration is the first step to gun confiscation and history has proven that. |
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mattbenz99 said: MrAnimeFan said: in many states there are no laws requiring background checks for second hand guns sales or any regulation on them at all. That is where most of the guns used by criminals come from. I mean if you live in America all you need to do is drive a few hours and you can get a gun no questions askedI am for minor background checking because it helps stop the bad guys somewhat but in the end they will always have a gun. as for a government needing to know what I own or have, they dont. gun registration is the first step to gun confiscation and history has proven that. well the background checks are the personal responsibility of the seller, well duh my last AK buy was from some random guy i met online and i bought it in the parking lot of a Walmart. i live in Arizona and that is legal... stop trying to find excuses to blame the law abiding citizens, thinking of the worst out come doesnt fly.... |
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MrAnimeFan said: a gun is deadly weapon and should be treated as such. It should not be that easy for some random person to buy a bunch of guns from a gun store then sell them at a mark up to gangs because when there is no background checks that is very well what might be happeningmattbenz99 said: in many states there are no laws requiring background checks for second hand guns sales or any regulation on them at all. That is where most of the guns used by criminals come from. I mean if you live in America all you need to do is drive a few hours and you can get a gun no questions asked well the background checks are the personal responsibility of the seller, well duh my last AK buy was from some random guy i met online and i bought it in the parking lot of a Walmart. i live in Arizona and that is legal... stop trying to find excuses to blame the law abiding citizens, thinking of the worst out come doesnt fly.... |
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mattbenz99 said: MrAnimeFan said: a gun is deadly weapon and should be treated as such. It should not be that easy for some random person to buy a bunch of guns from a gun store then sell them at a mark up to gangs because when there is no background checks that is very well what might be happeningwell the background checks are the personal responsibility of the seller, well duh my last AK buy was from some random guy i met online and i bought it in the parking lot of a Walmart. i live in Arizona and that is legal... stop trying to find excuses to blame the law abiding citizens, thinking of the worst out come doesnt fly.... a gun is a deadly weapon in the wrong hands just like any other tool, a car, a bat, a shovel, a knife and even a pen. the reason why people sell second hand outside of gun stores is because they get their rightful money worth out of it. say you buy a colt m4 rifle for 1400 dollars, you have it for a few months and only put about 100 rounds down it. its still worth a good 1000 but a gun store wont give you that price, they will give you 600 bucks for it and resell it for 1100 dollars. a man has a right to get his money worth out of anything. what makes you think they sell to gang members? a respectable gun owner would run a check and not sell to someone he finds out of the ordinary.. let me ask you something? i already know the answer but i feel the need to ask anyways. do you own any firearm? also it is not that easy to get a firearm. first you need the required money for the gun. you go into a store fill out a 2 page paperwork with your first middle and last name, your social number, date of birth, the address where you live and other optional items. they then call the FBI and they transfer that info to them which takes 10 minutes to run the check and they say YES for Clear and No for not clear. if they clear you then you hand the money and get your gun and you walk out and if they dont clear you then they throw you out and call the police....how is this easy? its a 40 minute process total.. |
MrAnimeFanJul 31, 2014 1:20 AM
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MrAnimeFan said: I'd like to second this. It isn't easy to get guns that you need. Why would gang members settle with low tech, Civilian crap when they can get fully automatic assault rifles for less (or in some cases less, I mean). My father fought in Afghanistan...back then he told me he went to a black market and said he could purchase an AK-47 for $6 or a Chicken. At any rate, it isn't difficult to acquire weapons illegally. Legally, yes. Illegally, no. After all, they're gangsters. Why would they abide by the laws? |
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MrAnimeFan said: bullshit if you can just sell your old gun to anyone why wouldn't a specific group of people take advantage of that and agree to sell it to criminals for a higher price. You are far too trusting. Also are you really so crazy as to actually believe a pen is more deadly than an ar15?mattbenz99 said: a gun is deadly weapon and should be treated as such. It should not be that easy for some random person to buy a bunch of guns from a gun store then sell them at a mark up to gangs because when there is no background checks that is very well what might be happening a gun is a deadly weapon in the wrong hands just like any other tool, a car, a bat, a shovel, a knife and even a pen. the reason why people sell second hand outside of gun stores is because they get their rightful money worth out of it. say you buy a colt m4 rifle for 1400 dollars, you have it for a few months and only put about 100 rounds down it. its still worth a good 1000 but a gun store wont give you that price, they will give you 600 bucks for it and resell it for 1100 dollars. a man has a right to get his money worth out of anything. what makes you think they sell to gang members? a respectable gun owner would run a check and not sell to someone he finds out of the ordinary.. let me ask you something? i already know the answer but i feel the need to ask anyways. do you own any firearm? also it is not that easy to get a firearm. first you need the required money for the gun. you go into a store fill out a 2 page paperwork with your first middle and last name, your social number, date of birth, the address where you live and other optional items. they then call the FBI and they transfer that info to them which takes 10 minutes to run the check and they say YES for Clear and No for not clear. if they clear you then you hand the money and get your gun and you walk out and if they dont clear you then they throw you out and call the police....how is this easy? its a 40 minute process total.. |
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cabacc2 said: how can you possibly come to that conclusion The founding father were scared of government oppression, and sought to give the citizens the right and power to prevent government oppression, right? So if you went and told them that one day the government would have tanks, warplanes, ICBMs, and nukes... I think it's rather unlikely that they would somehow stop seeing the need for citizens to protect themselves from government oppression. I think it's a little more likely that they would have created an even stronger 2nd Amendment, and would have been overjoyed to allow the private citizen to own and carry assault rifles. So many people push this nonsensical platitude of "The founding fathers never would have thought of assault rifles!" argument that they fail to realize that it actually supports the pro-gun side, and hurts the pro-gun control argument. |
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mattbenz99 said: MrAnimeFan said: bullshit if you can just sell your old gun to anyone why wouldn't a specific group of people take advantage of that and agree to sell it to criminals for a higher price. You are far too trusting. Also are you really so crazy as to actually believe a pen is more deadly than an ar15?a gun is a deadly weapon in the wrong hands just like any other tool, a car, a bat, a shovel, a knife and even a pen. the reason why people sell second hand outside of gun stores is because they get their rightful money worth out of it. say you buy a colt m4 rifle for 1400 dollars, you have it for a few months and only put about 100 rounds down it. its still worth a good 1000 but a gun store wont give you that price, they will give you 600 bucks for it and resell it for 1100 dollars. a man has a right to get his money worth out of anything. what makes you think they sell to gang members? a respectable gun owner would run a check and not sell to someone he finds out of the ordinary.. let me ask you something? i already know the answer but i feel the need to ask anyways. do you own any firearm? also it is not that easy to get a firearm. first you need the required money for the gun. you go into a store fill out a 2 page paperwork with your first middle and last name, your social number, date of birth, the address where you live and other optional items. they then call the FBI and they transfer that info to them which takes 10 minutes to run the check and they say YES for Clear and No for not clear. if they clear you then you hand the money and get your gun and you walk out and if they dont clear you then they throw you out and call the police....how is this easy? its a 40 minute process total.. i am not too trusting at all, i always background check the people i sell too. for instance i wouldn't sell you a gun because you dont really know a thing about them. as for pen you would be surprised what ive been trained to do with a pen. like i said before in the right hands anything can pretty much be a deadly weapon. |
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apachelsalvador said: Even if it's only an opinion, it's still messed up. Why teach the kids how to shoot? So we can have trained and expert gunmen, and a potential killer once somebody goes insane? There's no fucking need for it. Want a gun? Get your gun after passing your background and mental check. If you want kids to have a firearm, send 'em where they grow child soldiers. no you teach kids the responsibility of owning a gun, you teach them that a gun is a tool and not a toy. ou take them to the range and teach them the proper ways to handle a gun. you would be surprised, they used to do this in the 40s-70s. they had gun safety classes. |
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MrAnimeFan said: ya that is great for you but you arent the only person doing it. i mean how easy is it for a few people to regularly buy a few guns then sell it to random people without any background check and make a profit off of it. gangs have to get their guns from somewhere i mean guns dont magically appear.i am not too trusting at all, i always background check the people i sell too. for instance i wouldn't sell you a gun because you dont really know a thing about them. as for pen you would be surprised what ive been trained to do with a pen. like i said before in the right hands anything can pretty much be a deadly weapon. also the pen thing come on you are joking yourself if you think a murderer will walk into a school with a pen and do the same amount of damage as he would with a gun. i mean do you really belief as many people would of died in sandy hook if the killer used a pen? |
mattbenz99Jul 31, 2014 1:09 PM
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MrAnimeFan said: and again which class would you remove in order to squeeze this course into the school curriculum? there is only so much time in a day so adding 1 course means you have to remove another course.apachelsalvador said: Even if it's only an opinion, it's still messed up. Why teach the kids how to shoot? So we can have trained and expert gunmen, and a potential killer once somebody goes insane? There's no fucking need for it. Want a gun? Get your gun after passing your background and mental check. If you want kids to have a firearm, send 'em where they grow child soldiers. no you teach kids the responsibility of owning a gun, you teach them that a gun is a tool and not a toy. ou take them to the range and teach them the proper ways to handle a gun. you would be surprised, they used to do this in the 40s-70s. they had gun safety classes. |
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DerpHole said: Sinyan said: Did this guy just seriously talk about integrating gun training into school curriculum? Real fucking smart. As long as the environment is highly controlled and supervised I don't see a problem with it. Would result in less deaths as a result of kids stumbling upon guns in their houses closets and not respecting the guns power. Could you imagine visiting a gunrange on a field trip and getting to fire something? Best fucking field trip ever lol. I see nothing wrong with teaching kids how to use guns properly. In a highly controlled environment like a certified gun range would be more than sufficient. |
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mattbenz99 said: MrAnimeFan said: ya that is great for you but you arent the only person doing it. i mean how easy is it for a few people to regularly buy a few guns then sell it to random people without any background check and make a profit off of it. gangs have to get their guns from somewhere i mean guns dont magically appear.i am not too trusting at all, i always background check the people i sell too. for instance i wouldn't sell you a gun because you dont really know a thing about them. as for pen you would be surprised what ive been trained to do with a pen. like i said before in the right hands anything can pretty much be a deadly weapon. also the pen thing come on you are joking yourself if you think a murderer will walk into a school with a pen and do the same amount of damage as he would with a gun. i mean do you really belief as many people would of died in sandy hook if the killer used a pen? gang members dress and act a certain way, you can tell who is a gang member if you are smart. also you dont just sell to random people. its a few days of talking and getting a feel of the person. gangs will get guns no matter what in the end, sure some people sell to the wrong sort but its not even 1 percent. a monster will find a way to carry out his acts no matter how much you try to limit a law abiding citizen because that is all these stupid lws do is restrict us and prevent us from the proper means of defense. criminals are criminals BECAUSE THEY FAIL TO OBEY THE LAW.....you think he gives a crap about the gun laws? and as for curriculum you can make it an elective, don't really have to take away something to add something. or you can just add another period. hell i can even name a few pointless classes that are required but not needed in life. also as they go up in grades some times they don't have as many periods as other younger students, like most have 7 but i when i hit Junior i only had 4 or 5 so i got out about 12ish so you can just add it in then. you need to be more open and learn to think rationally... |
MrAnimeFanJul 31, 2014 4:19 PM
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| cant just act like everyone who is not law enforcement or military and owns a gun doesnt know what they are doing or how to use it. a firearm is a tool and everyone who uses tools are required to know how it operates and functions. like a car someone who drives, if it brakes you need to know how to fix it or how to operate it properly. same with a firearm. 45 percent of firearm owners are former military and combat vets like myself. we have more training then your average cop does in his entire career. in my opinion the proper age to teach someone the dos and don'ts of owning a firearm starts in Jr High. |
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| right now i am currently teaching my 10 year old nephew how to operate a firearm properly and safely. because his mom is single and disabled. i know for a fact i wont always be a round or i could end up dead myself. i want to know he can properly defend my sister if needed and have the courage and proper training to be able to draw effectively and drop anyone seeking to do harm to him or his mother. some day ill even buy him his own rifle when i feel he is mature enough to handle that responsibility. i may not be a citified instructor but i scored expert on pretty much every platform i handled and i know more about what i am doing then most officers and law enforcement do. |
MrAnimeFanJul 31, 2014 4:39 PM
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