| This question got asked in another forum but why is it that in modern war anime America's military supremacy gets ignored? |
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| Does in those anime saying that the country is Japan ? |
| A lot of media seems to concentrate on those one world orders or alliance of different nations type stuff I think. |
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| Well not all of them, at least FMP acknowledges America's supreamcy. |
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| Wasn't ignored in Code Geass, if you accept that Brittania contains the US. |
| Because Japan invents giant robots piloted by angsty teenagers and then it's GG for us. |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
| Cuz Japan would still like to think it could A) Have a good military; B) this military could beat the US military; and C) this Japanese military would not be evil. It's not even close to reality, but after WW2 there were really only two options as far as this kind of wishful thinking goes: submission to the facts, or denial. Japan chose denial because unlike the Germans they have not yet admitted that "Yeah, we kinda deserved to get the shit beat out of us." |
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| Because not everything is about America. |
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| Not everything is American propaganda |
| If a series is set in the past, then the US did not have military supremacy. If a series is set in the future, it is perfectly viable to present a world in which the US does not have military supremacy. If a series is set in an alternative universe setting, then having the US not having military supremacy is perfectly viable. I really don't see many series that don't fall into at least one of those three categories. |
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| I don't know, why do the aliens in American movies only invade America? |
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| Because it is a work of fiction. DEAL WITH IT. Relevant to your interests: Read or Die the anime is pretty blunt with its insults of the US military/president. You see the US president pee himself in multiple scenes. |
mitch3315 said: Because not everything is about America. Anon1409 said: YES IT IS!Not everything is American propaganda  |
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yhunata said: I don't know, why do the aliens in American movies only invade America? Because they are filmed in Canada. |
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yhunata said: I don't know, why do the aliens in American movies only invade America? Aliens are known to like shitty fast food. |
Aqua_Mars said: yhunata said: I don't know, why do the aliens in American movies only invade America? Aliens are known to like shitty fast food. But thanks to the magic of globalization, you can get shitty american fast food anywhere. Except Japan. Sort of. |
| Because anime is Japan's dream of being relevant. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| Wait what's the question here? Is the OP asking why there aren't more anime that are going out of there way to make a political comment about the supremacy of the U.S or are there actual examples anyone can think of anime that heavily focus on a modern war setting that explicitly downplay the power and influence of the U.S military? |
| YEAH AMERICA IS THE BEST WOOOO STARS AND STRIPES |
an egomaniac and a fool |
| 'Murica have more force than Japan, 'Murica should be the strongest in any medium, all hail 'Murica |
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| Usually the mechas > military supremacy. Or are you talking about non-mecha war anime? Silly you, as if they existed. |
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| It's natural that the directors wanted to make their own country looks better in their own show. Just like America's war movies showing them kicking Russian's ass. Why would you want to bow to America's supremacy when you have a ten-feet-tall-teenage-pilot robot who can easily wipe the whole America. |
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| What supremacy? Has the U.S. definitively "won" a war in the past 70 years? (And even that win came with the support of very powerful allies.) Vastly outspending and outgunning technologically inferior opponents and seeing practically nothing but defeats and stalemated quagmires is not what I'd call supremacy. |
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Zalis said: To be fair, an assumption of supremacy in "conventional warfare" would be reasonable, or at least a supremacy on paper if you're somewhat sceptical.What supremacy? Has the U.S. definitively "won" a war in the past 70 years? (And even that win came with the support of very powerful allies.) Vastly outspending and outgunning technologically inferior opponents and seeing practically nothing but defeats and stalemated quagmires is not what I'd call supremacy. It seems that it's been accepted (once again) that asymmetric warfare isn't viably "winnable" on a purely military front, so we might say the poor track record has more to do with political inadequacies than a deficiency in the star & sprangled military. |
Zalis said: What supremacy? Has the U.S. definitively "won" a war in the past 70 years? (And even that win came with the support of very powerful allies.) Vastly outspending and outgunning technologically inferior opponents and seeing practically nothing but defeats and stalemated quagmires is not what I'd call supremacy. that's not what you'd call military supremacy because that's not what military supremacy is |
| Nowadays military supremacy is more of projection/threat of power rather than winning wars. |
Guernsey said: nothing to do with the topic i like your singature and avatar :)This question got asked in another forum but why is it that in modern war anime America's military supremacy gets ignored? |
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Guernsey said: This question got asked in another forum but why is it that in modern war anime America's military supremacy gets ignored? Because the target audience of anime are Japanese. |
Zeally said: Nowadays military supremacy is more of projection/threat of power rather than winning wars. Only when dealing with actual governments. Insurgents don't give a shit. Zalis said: What supremacy? Has the U.S. definitively "won" a war in the past 70 years? (And even that win came with the support of very powerful allies.) Desert Storm, The invasion of Iraq (at least when they were directly fighting the Iraqi military), Operation Just Cause and the invasion of Grenada. If you want to say that supremacy is based purely on how many wars were definitively won without support, then Israel has the world's best military. |
fst said: Israel receives millions of funds by the American government every year.Zeally said: Nowadays military supremacy is more of projection/threat of power rather than winning wars. Only when dealing with actual governments. Insurgents don't give a shit. Zalis said: What supremacy? Has the U.S. definitively "won" a war in the past 70 years? (And even that win came with the support of very powerful allies.) Desert Storm, The invasion of Iraq (at least when they were directly fighting the Iraqi military), Operation Just Cause and the invasion of Grenada. If you want to say that supremacy is based purely on how many wars were definitively won without support, then Israel has the world's best military. |
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| My mistake, I meant to say "direct support" Virtually everybody receives some form of support from the 5 permanent security council members, because they also happen to be the world's 5 largest arms exporters. Actually, it occurs to me that one aspect of military supremacy is the ability to win proxy wars. |
Guernsey said: This question got asked in another forum but why is it that in modern war anime America's military supremacy gets ignored? The bigger question here is: "Modern war anime is a thing?" |
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Ckan said: This. America hasn't been involved in a "real", "stand up" war since... Desert Shield/Desert Storm I believe. Or I guess you could argue the first couple years of the Iraq war, when Iraq was a real nation under Saddam.Zalis said: To be fair, an assumption of supremacy in "conventional warfare" would be reasonable, or at least a supremacy on paper if you're somewhat sceptical.What supremacy? Has the U.S. definitively "won" a war in the past 70 years? (And even that win came with the support of very powerful allies.) Vastly outspending and outgunning technologically inferior opponents and seeing practically nothing but defeats and stalemated quagmires is not what I'd call supremacy. It seems that it's been accepted (once again) that asymmetric warfare isn't viably "winnable" on a purely military front, so we might say the poor track record has more to do with political inadequacies than a deficiency in the star & sprangled military. It's largely been asymetrical warfare against guerrilla fighters. Philippines, Iraq, Afghanistan. Heck, even Vietnam and Korea were largely guerrilla warfare. In situations like these, you have to have superior numbers, training, and technology just to be on par with the guerrilla forces. Which is why third class fighting forces or forces with small numbers resort to asymmetrical warfare in the first place. Also why America will never be dominated by a land invasion. Too many veterans and citizens with firearms. Guerrilla warfare would drag on infinitum even if China or Russia had the guts to try a land invasion here. Hell, a good percentage of my peers are veterans. You can't throw a stone without hitting a veteran these days. |
LAOG said: fst said: Israel receives millions of funds by the American government every year.Only when dealing with actual governments. Insurgents don't give a shit. Desert Storm, The invasion of Iraq (at least when they were directly fighting the Iraqi military), Operation Just Cause and the invasion of Grenada. If you want to say that supremacy is based purely on how many wars were definitively won without support, then Israel has the world's best military. *billions |
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Zalis said: Korea: victory.What supremacy? Has the U.S. definitively "won" a war in the past 70 years? (And even that win came with the support of very powerful allies.) Vastly outspending and outgunning technologically inferior opponents and seeing practically nothing but defeats and stalemated quagmires is not what I'd call supremacy. Vietnam: Military victory, political (aka the part that actually matters) loss All those Central/South American interventions: Victories, even if you don't like what they were doing there Gulf War: ROFLMAO Curb-stomp victory |
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| Because US army is too OP |
TheFilthyCasual said: Korea: victory. Fighting for 3 years and ending up almost exactly where you started with half of Korea controlled by communists is a victory for the 'States? |
fst said: They saved South Korea. That was the goal from the beginning. Need I remind you that North Korea started it, and them almost being conquered (saved only by the intervention of hordes of Chinese) was a consequence of the counterattack in response. The US then fought for 3 years to keep the Chinese from accomplishing what the North Koreans could not, and that is exactly what happened.TheFilthyCasual said: Korea: victory. Fighting for 3 years and ending up almost exactly where you started with half of Korea controlled by communists is a victory for the 'States? |
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| I actually felt like Code Geass not only recognized US military superiority, but actually poked fun at US worldwide military policy. You know, Team America World Police and all. Considering in the show that Brittania was a futuristic version of the US who had gone on to control other regions through conquest and praised the idea of individualism, survival of the fittest, and strength through competition which are generally pretty highly valued in American culture. |
AwakezzzJul 19, 2014 8:52 PM
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Awakezzz said: I actually felt like Code Geass not only recognized US military superiority, but actually poked fun at US worldwide military policy. You know, Team America World Police and all. Considering in the show that Brittania was a futuristic version of the US who had gone on to control other regions through conquest and praised the idea of individualism, survival of the fittest, and strength through competition which are generally pretty highly valued in American culture. Was Code Geass satirizing the U.S.? Maybe we might be overthinking it. |
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Adair said: Anime is Japanese. Japan is on the same planet as the U.S. Therefore they must acknowledge our existence as a military overlord. #simple |
| Well, America is almost always on the second place in power in war anime series around, right after Japan. Anime releases are Japan products after all, and they naturally want to show themselves as the best on every focus. |
Guernsey said: This question got asked in another forum but why is it that in modern war anime America's military supremacy gets ignored? It doesn't get ignored in black lagoon. |
Nidhoeggr said: Because anime is Japan's dream of being relevant. This made me lol MoeSavage said: Japan is on the same planet as the U.S. Sometimes I don't know if that's true |
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| Japanese people aren't too fond of Americans, I mean look at the amount of stuff that Europe gets, than look at us. Not acknowledging us is only the tip of the iceberg. Well I don't blame them considering how racist this country is to Asian people and how much fun we make of Japan, it wouldn't make sense for them not to have a grudge on us. |
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Superpieguy said: kuuderes_shadow said: If a series is set in the past, then the US did not have military supremacy. If a series is set in the future, it is perfectly viable to present a world in which the US does not have military supremacy. If a series is set in an alternative universe setting, then having the US not having military supremacy is perfectly viable. I really don't see many series that don't fall into at least one of those three categories. It depends when in the past are you referring to. Since the start of the 20th century growing from the tour of the Great White Fleet to the advent of WWII, America had a military sizeable with that of the continental Great Powers. From WWII onwards to now, America has, though albeit not always total, military supremacy. |
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