| [quote=keragamming]*facepalm* So tell me what is the part op didn't like about yao? The main theme of yaoi is two guys intimidate relationship, so tell me what's the part that he didn't like but he watches it any ways? Comedy and Romance, both of which are delightful and abundant in Love Stage!! Sapewloth said: ]I watched The Lion King and enjoyed the romance between Nala and Simba. Am I also into bestiality? Bwahaha. No it is not a valid reason to not watch yaoi if you're uncomfortable with boys kissing. That means you're homophobic. With us or against us hmm? No grey areas here, just good old fashioned black and white. I don't want to watch an anime about sports. Because I don't like sports. Thereby I am phobic of sports right? |
AmaraeJul 19, 2014 6:21 PM
mayukachan said: keragamming said: I'm just telling the so called straight guys that watches two guys have an intimidate relationship is gay. So, if I was a straight girl and watched shoujo-ai/yuri, does that make me a lesbian? Yep, she has interest in women. She probably still likes boys more. People are seriously not getting my point. For someone to be straight, it means they have no interest with the same sex, meaning intimate relationship. I can't call a girl 100% straight when she have a interest in watching two girls having intimate relationship. |
keragamming said: I'm not saying he will go full blown gay, and humping any guy he finds ... not sure why people are even taking you seriously. |
keragamming said: Yep, she has interest in women. She probably still likes boys more. People are seriously not getting my point. For someone to be straight, it means they have no interest with the same sex, meaning intimate relationship. I can't call a girl 100% straight when she have a interest in watching two girls having intimate relationship. I don't have any romantic interest in women at all. I've checked out a few shoujo-ai because of my male friends recommending them and they're not bad but I don't get turned on by it or anything. Have you ever considered that I might watch something for the writing or story? |
keragamming said: mayukachan said: So, if I was a straight girl and watched shoujo-ai/yuri, does that make me a lesbian? Yep, she has interest in women. She probably still likes boys more. People are seriously not getting my point. For someone to be straight, it means they have no interest with the same sex, meaning intimate relationship. I can't call a girl 100% straight when she have a interest in watching two girls having intimate relationship. Then your ability to label people is faulty. |
keragamming said: Then why wouldn't you call me a zoophile for having an interest in watching two lions having intimate relationship?mayukachan said: So, if I was a straight girl and watched shoujo-ai/yuri, does that make me a lesbian? Yep, she has interest in women. She probably still likes boys more. People are seriously not getting my point. For someone to be straight, it means they have no interest with the same sex, meaning intimate relationship. I can't call a girl 100% straight when she have a interest in watching two girls having intimate relationship. |
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7thVoid said: keragamming said: Nothing is wrong with being gay, that's not the point I'm making. I'm just telling the so called straight guys that watches two guys have an intimidate relationship, that they're not straight. My god. People read! I do read and I wasn't posting to you personally. I just feel that people shouldn't go about judging others in such a manner. Also you don't have to be gay to like a yaoi series. There are other things beside BL in the story like plot. Here's an example for you. I can honestly say that another man is handsome even my own father does this mean I have gay tendencies? I think not. So doesn't the plot revolve around the characters relationship? If it's tagged as yaoi then it will have intimate relationship with two guys, that's the whole reason why it has the yaoi tag in the first place. There's nothing wrong with calling your father handsome. lol |
| I read a news article one time about three male deer humping each other... What does that make me? |
keragamming said: mayukachan said: So, if I was a straight girl and watched shoujo-ai/yuri, does that make me a lesbian? Yep, she has interest in women. She probably still likes boys more. People are seriously not getting my point. For someone to be straight, it means they have no interest with the same sex, meaning intimate relationship. I can't call a girl 100% straight when she have a interest in watching two girls having intimate relationship. No one cares what you "can" and "cannot" call someone in regards to their sexuality. Sexuality is something an individual identifies with, not something others decide for you. And there is almost no such thing as 100% straight. You can identify as straight, but sexuality is not black and white. P At this point, I'm inclined to believe that you are either trolling or literally have no clue what you're talking about or arguing against. Please at least take a course on sexual psychology or something similar before you go around spouting nonsense, because it just makes you look ridiculous. I'm done with this conversation, but at least you seem to have all these other people who seem to enjoy humoring you. |
keragamming said: 7thVoid said: I do read and I wasn't posting to you personally. I just feel that people shouldn't go about judging others in such a manner. Also you don't have to be gay to like a yaoi series. There are other things beside BL in the story like plot. Here's an example for you. I can honestly say that another man is handsome even my own father does this mean I have gay tendencies? I think not. So doesn't the plot revolve around the characters relationship? If it's tagged as yaoi then it will have intimate relationship with two guys, that's the whole reason why it has the yaoi tag in the first place. There's nothing wrong with calling your father handsome. lol That's my point though. I can see other men as handsome yet that in itself doesn't mean I'm gay by any means. The overall feel of a series also should dictate what you watch not just the portrayal of relationships in them. |
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Jackrabb1t said: Whatever that makes you, it can't be worse than someone who's interested in homosexual necrophilia among ducks.I read a news article one time about three male deer humping each other... What does that make me? |
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Sapewloth said: Jackrabb1t said: Whatever that makes you, it can't be worse than someone who's interested in homosexual necrophilia among ducks.I read a news article one time about three male deer humping each other... What does that make me? What in the serious hell? lol. I can't believe I looked at that. People are really ambitious these days. |
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| sigh... Ok, can I ask you guys a question? Just tell me if you're gay , straight or bi. |
Candeloro said: Amarae said: What? It's a completely valid reason to not watch Yaoi. I dislike fanservice, so I'm not going to watch Highschool of the Dead, but that doesn't make me prejudiced against heterosexuals. If their motivation is "Because I'm not interested" then it's fair. Homophobic would be more like 'Because it's Gross!". I feel this should be a notable distinction. No it is not a valid reason to not watch yaoi if you're uncomfortable with boys kissing. That means you're homophobic.  |
Adair said: keragamming said: Yep, she has interest in women. She probably still likes boys more. People are seriously not getting my point. For someone to be straight, it means they have no interest with the same sex, meaning intimate relationship. I can't call a girl 100% straight when she have a interest in watching two girls having intimate relationship. No one cares what you "can" and "cannot" call someone in regards to their sexuality. Sexuality is something an individual identifies with, not something others decide for you. And there is almost no such thing as 100% straight. You can identify as straight, but sexuality is not black and white. P At this point, I'm inclined to believe that you are either trolling or literally have no clue what you're talking about or arguing against. Please at least take a course on sexual psychology or something similar before you go around spouting nonsense, because it just makes you look ridiculous. I'm done with this conversation, but at least you seem to have all these other people who seem to enjoy humoring you. You probably wont reply to this, but I'll just put it out there. What I find weird about you, is that I'm not talking about the people that know that they're gay and they accept it, I'm talking to the so called straight guys. Why are you so upset? Look through my comments, Have I said anything bad about people that are gay? Did I say they should all burn? No. You shouldn't even care about my comment. The ones that are replying to my comments obviously watches yaoi, and are trying to justify themself. They're the ones that are a shame to be called gay. Notice some of the ridiculous replys I get? They're desperate to prove me wrong, so that in their heads, they can say that they're straight and is not the slightest interested in men, although the took the time to go on the net and watch/download a yaoi anime to watch in the first place. Again I have gay friends and I have no problem with them, since they know that I'm straight. If someone that's gay, reads these comments, I would be confuse to see them insulting me. My only conclusion is that you misunderstand me. |
keragammingJul 19, 2014 6:46 PM
| Most yuri is made by women, for women, published at magazine for women. And I read most of them are straight despite being the target market of a genre depicting homosexual women: straight (and non straight) girls are the majority of readers. I'm not sure if yaoi is the same, I'm pretty sure the target of yaoi is women too. I think you're confusing being straight with having homophobia, a male one can read yaoi and be fully straight, it just means they don't have an aversion to homosexuals, which is what you are attributing to being straight... |
| I identify as Bisexual for clarity. Also I do not believe keragaming has anything against homosexuals. The debate is more about definitions of what it is to be gay or straight. Kera believes that any interest in the intimacy between two males or females regardless of context denotes a leaning towards homosexuality. Which is not entirely untrue. I imagine a majority of people do actually have a tendency towards homosexuality, regardless of how "Straight" they are, but I don't believe that it is absolute, and that it is entirely possible to enjoy what Yaoi has to offer without being homosexual/ Most yuri is made by women, for women, published at magazine for women. I'm pretty sure the target of yaoi is women too. They sure nailed me with that one. Shoujo/Shounen-ai (Romance in general really) is definitely my favourite. No it is not a valid reason to not watch yaoi if you're uncomfortable with boys kissing. That means you're homophobic. Uncomfortable =!/= Uninterested. |
AmaraeJul 19, 2014 6:50 PM
keragamming said: Adair said: No one cares what you "can" and "cannot" call someone in regards to their sexuality. Sexuality is something an individual identifies with, not something others decide for you. And there is almost no such thing as 100% straight. You can identify as straight, but sexuality is not black and white. P At this point, I'm inclined to believe that you are either trolling or literally have no clue what you're talking about or arguing against. Please at least take a course on sexual psychology or something similar before you go around spouting nonsense, because it just makes you look ridiculous. I'm done with this conversation, but at least you seem to have all these other people who seem to enjoy humoring you. You probably wont reply to this, but I'll just put it out there. What I find weird about you, is that I'm not talking about the people that know that they're gay and they accept it, I'm talking to the so called straight guys. Why are you so upset? Look through my comments, Have I said anything bad about people that are gay? Did I say they should all burn? No. You shouldn't even care about my comment. The ones that are replying to my comments obviously watches yaoi, and are trying to justify themself. They're the ones that are a shame to be called gay. Notice some of the ridiculous replys I get? They're desperate to prove me wrong, so that in their heads, they can say, that they're straight and is not the slightest interested in men, although the took the time to go on the net and watch/download a yaoi anime to watch in the first place. Since you asked, I'm straight. Now if you think me watching a yaoi series makes me gay then go on ahead and call me gay. I have no problem with how certain individuals see me. As I said, I know where I stand and that's all I need. |
| "A cruel world is not without it's beauty, and many times a select few find it by mistake. Only then do those select few see the world for what it is... A disastrous masterpiece." ~ 7thVoid "Hates a river that only flows down." ~ 7thVoid |
Amarae said: I identify as Bisexual for clarity. Also I do not believe keragaming has anything against homosexuals. The debate is more about definitions of what it is to be gay or straight. Kera believes that any interest in the intimacy between two males or females regardless of context denotes a leaning towards homosexuality. Which is not entirely untrue. I imagine a majority of people do actually have a tendency towards homosexuality, regardless of how "Straight" they are, but I don't believe that it is absolute, and that it is entirely possible to enjoy what Yaoi has to offer without being homosexual/ Most yuri is made by women, for women, published at magazine for women. They sure nailed me with that one. Shoujo/Shounen-ai (Romance in general really) is definitely my favourite. Thank you. The thing is there is a fine line from being gay to being straight. This is just my opinion. Let me give you a example. If you make gay jokes to someone , I'll think of it as a joke, hell, Even I make gay comments sometimes. But now when you chose to go and watch two guys or girls having a intimate relationship, then that's going a bit too far imo. |
7thVoid said: keragamming said: You probably wont reply to this, but I'll just put it out there. What I find weird about you, is that I'm not talking about the people that know that they're gay and they accept it, I'm talking to the so called straight guys. Why are you so upset? Look through my comments, Have I said anything bad about people that are gay? Did I say they should all burn? No. You shouldn't even care about my comment. The ones that are replying to my comments obviously watches yaoi, and are trying to justify themself. They're the ones that are a shame to be called gay. Notice some of the ridiculous replys I get? They're desperate to prove me wrong, so that in their heads, they can say, that they're straight and is not the slightest interested in men, although the took the time to go on the net and watch/download a yaoi anime to watch in the first place. Since you asked, I'm straight. Now if you think me watching a yaoi series makes me gay then go on ahead and call me gay. I have no problem with how certain individuals see me. As I said, I know where I stand and that's all I need. I would call you lvl 1 gay, if you watch yaoi. start holding hands with a guy, lvl 2 gay, start kissing a guy lvl 3 gay, start having sex with a guy full blown gay. lol |
| You must be pretty insecure to think watching something makes you gay. |
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keragamming said: Amarae said: I identify as Bisexual for clarity. Also I do not believe keragaming has anything against homosexuals. The debate is more about definitions of what it is to be gay or straight. Kera believes that any interest in the intimacy between two males or females regardless of context denotes a leaning towards homosexuality. Which is not entirely untrue. I imagine a majority of people do actually have a tendency towards homosexuality, regardless of how "Straight" they are, but I don't believe that it is absolute, and that it is entirely possible to enjoy what Yaoi has to offer without being homosexual/ They sure nailed me with that one. Shoujo/Shounen-ai (Romance in general really) is definitely my favourite. Thank you. The thing is there is a fine line from being gay to being straight. This is just my opinion. Let me give you a example. If you make gay jokes to someone , I'll think of it as a joke, hell, Even I make gay comments sometimes. But now when you chose to go and watch two guys or girls having a intimate relationship, then that's going a bit too far imo. Well if we've made it clear to explain our positions at this point there isn't anything left to say besides "I disagree" and I guess we can leave it at that. It's curious how someone can see an opposing opinion and truly think of it as "Trolling" though. To be honest, I think that is simply a less mature way of saying "I DON'T LIKE YOUR OPINION BUT DON"T HAVE ANYTHING LEFT TO REFUTE IT WITH!". But to continue that point would require a different thread. The point here is that everyone is head over heels for Love Stage!! right? |
ReaperCreeper said: You must be pretty insecure to think watching something makes you gay. I watched lolican hentai, that makes me lvl 1 pedo. I don't want to go any further than that. |
keragamming said: ReaperCreeper said: You must be pretty insecure to think watching something makes you gay. I watched lolican hentai, that makes me lvl 1 pedo. I don't want to go any further than that. lol. Alright then. If I'm gay and you're a pedo what does that make us when we're put together? I must know! |
| "A cruel world is not without it's beauty, and many times a select few find it by mistake. Only then do those select few see the world for what it is... A disastrous masterpiece." ~ 7thVoid "Hates a river that only flows down." ~ 7thVoid |
| Real yaoi are gay buttsecks orgies. If you voluntarily watch that as a male, then you are for sure gay, bi or insane. |
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Shiratori99 said: Real yaoi are gay buttsecks orgies. If you voluntarily watch that as a male, then you are for sure gay, bi or insane. Only if they get turned on. |
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ReaperCreeper said: Shiratori99 said: Real yaoi are gay buttsecks orgies. If you voluntarily watch that as a male, then you are for sure gay, bi or insane. Only if they get turned on. -> insane |
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7thVoid said: keragamming said: I watched lolican hentai, that makes me lvl 1 pedo. I don't want to go any further than that. lol. Alright then. If I'm gay and you're a pedo what does that make us when we're put together? I must know! We can't be mix we are totally different. We are lvl 1s, that means we have some interest, but lvl only means we are only interested in these stuff in the anime world, meaning only by watching it. Now when you have intention to be with a human now you have evolve from a lvl 1 to a lvl 2! lol Which I wouldn't recommend anyone to go to lvl 2, because when you go there, there's almost no way turning back. |
keragammingJul 19, 2014 7:21 PM
Shiratori99 said: ReaperCreeper said: Only if they get turned on. -> insane They might have just been curious. |
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keragamming said: 7thVoid said: lol. Alright then. If I'm gay and you're a pedo what does that make us when we're put together? I must know! We can't be mix we are totally different. We are lvl 1s, that means we have some interest, but lvl only means we are only interested in these stuff in the anime world, meaning only by watching it. Now when you have intention to be with a human now you have evolve from a lvl 1 to a lvl 2! lol Which I wouldn't recommend anyone to go to lvl 2, because when you go there, there's almost no way turning back. Ah, ok. Now I get it. |
| "A cruel world is not without it's beauty, and many times a select few find it by mistake. Only then do those select few see the world for what it is... A disastrous masterpiece." ~ 7thVoid "Hates a river that only flows down." ~ 7thVoid |
ReaperCreeper said: Shiratori99 said: -> insane They might have just been curious. Then they quit at the first sex scene and find out it's nothing for them. Unless they're bi of course. There are also these people who claim to watch porn out of intellectual curiosity, but if they're honest that's pretty insane. |
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7thVoid said: keragamming said: We can't be mix we are totally different. We are lvl 1s, that means we have some interest, but lvl only means we are only interested in these stuff in the anime world, meaning only by watching it. Now when you have intention to be with a human now you have evolve from a lvl 1 to a lvl 2! lol Which I wouldn't recommend anyone to go to lvl 2, because when you go there, there's almost no way turning back. Ah, ok. Now I get it. That's the spirit! Now let's go out and have a few drink together. ;)  |
| Also people shouldn't compare the behavior of straight females with straight males. Straight men are generally more repelled by homosexual conduct than straight women, so they are also far less likely to simply "ignore" homosexual content in a show, even moreso in a pornographic one. |
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Shiratori99 said: >Knows what "real" yaoi consists ofReal yaoi are gay buttsecks orgies. If you voluntarily watch that as a male, then you are for sure gay, bi or insane. >Must have watched it first hand to have such knowledge >Claims that watching such material makes you gay Conclusion: Shiratori99 is flaming. |
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Red_Keys said: Shiratori99 said: >Knows what "real" yaoi consists ofReal yaoi are gay buttsecks orgies. If you voluntarily watch that as a male, then you are for sure gay, bi or insane. >Must have watched it first hand to have such knowledge >Claims that watching such material makes you gay Conclusion: Shiratori99 is flaming. It's called baiting :D |
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| Its funny how this turned into "you're gay if you watch shows about gays" vs. "embrace everything homoerotic or your a bigoted homophobe". Oh well, I'm confident in my identity. To be honest, watching love stage is similar to my experiences watching free. I feel people can often overlook a show's flaws if they're in the target audience(I can't even count the bad harem/fanservice shows I've enjoyed just because a few characters were hot). I picked both up because I wasn't in the target audiences. Because of this, I was able to look past pandering towards the target demographic(ie the heavy homosexual undertones in free) and focus on other, less noted places in which the shows excel. For example, in free, when all my girl friends were going "ZOMG MUSCLES, PERFECTO BODY!" I was interested in the water animation, sound, and comedy. My points of interest in love stage is also the comedy(and the milf). In my opinion, the idea that "watching gay stuff makes you gay" is like the "playing violent video games makes you violent" argument.While some people may believe these arguments, I personally don't see enough substantial evidence backing them up. As for those claiming that not enjoying stories about homosexuals makes you a homophobe, here's my counterargument; People often don't enjoy that which they can't relate too. For example, if someone doesn't find video games appealing, they probably wouldn't want to watch a show about hardcore gamers. This doesnt mean they hate gamers, it just means that their perspective is so different from the target audience that they don't have any connection to the lifestyle presented. This doesn't justify hatred, just indifference/disinterest. |
| I simply can't enjoy the greatest story of a manga or anime when the major genre is Yaoi. I have already seen some Yaoi scenes in series I love (e.g. Mirai Nikki) and they were very unpleasant for my eyes. Some straight men may be able to overlook those scenes and still being fascinated by the story, and will surely not turn out gay after watching the show, but for me it is still a heavy burden being exposed to watching things I don't like. It isn't enjoyment anymore then. The same goes for various other ugly videos you can find on several websites. I can't bear watching videos of people whose bodies are torn apart by bombs just to learn what is happening in this world. I'd rather read an article about that then. |
| This is how i personally rank romance/hentai animes Yaoi (male x cute trap) > Yuri > Straight love >>>>>>>>>>>> Yaoi (male x male) Basically, yaoi could be the best and worst genre at same time for me. |
| Yuri. That is all. |
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| I'm not down for Yaoi and it's not because I'm homophobic or anything like that, I have a lot of friends who are gay and find gay guys in general to be really fun to hang out with actually since I have an extremely feminine side myself due to how I've been raised. That being said, Yaoi doesn't appeal to me at all. |
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Red_Keys said: Can you imagine if gay people were as shallow, entitled, immature, and bratty as you people? "WAIT. This show has STRAIGHT PEOPLE IN IT??? EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" If having homosexual characters bothers you, you are homophobic. It's not a hard concept. The idea that you have to be the same sexuality as the relationship being presented and developed in order to enjoy it is beyond ludicrous. Unless of course you're some sexual weirdo who is only capable of enjoying things that you can masturbate to. This. All of this. ^^^Probably just me rambling. OP, if you like what you watch, keep doing it. More power to you. If you stop caring about genres or what is aimed at your target group, you might find that your viewing experience will become much more enjoyable. |
CMYKJul 20, 2014 1:03 PM
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Xybirk said: I love the huge contradiction in most of these posts. "I hate anything yaoi because the thought of two men intimiately involved repulses me. But it's not like I'm a homophobe or anything!" Being repulsed by explicit homosexual acts is pretty normal for heterosexuals. If that's being a homophobe, then there's nothing wrong with it. |
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Shiratori99 said: Xybirk said: I love the huge contradiction in most of these posts. "I hate anything yaoi because the thought of two men intimiately involved repulses me. But it's not like I'm a homophobe or anything!" Being repulsed by explicit homosexual acts is pretty normal for heterosexuals. If that's being a homophobe, then there's nothing wrong with it. It's normal for people who aren't comfortable in their own sexuality. |
Hulmy-chan said: Xybirk said: "I hate anything yaoi because the thought of two men intimiately involved repulses me. But it's not like I'm a homophobe or anything!" Would you want to see two guys kiss in front of you? No? Didn't think so. I wouldn't mind it any more than a straight couple kissing in front of me. |
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