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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Ah Ging and skillplan. Good to know him and Pariston are ready for what's to come. Ging was fun to watch in that fight. I'm curious about the true extent of his abilities although I think there might be limitations. |
Stark700Jul 15, 2014 9:45 AM
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| well it seems that ging is not an enhancer like gone his nen is like Leorio so that makes him an Emitter man I am psyched. and if i remember correctly razor was an Emitter too |
| now we dont don't have Gon but we have Ging that can do everything? even Pariston was amazed by how Ging could copy Leorio and extend the ability! amazing! |
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| Ging's character just keeps getting better and better! |
| So Ging is essentially a Blue Mage, eh? Looks interesting so far, looking forward to see even more about him. Now I'm wondering about what Pariston is capable of, though... |
HitsuJul 15, 2014 11:23 AM
| Do people not realize that the first half was saying that this is NOT a revelation of his nen? I'm really excited for tbe Mecha thing. Really fitting here. HxH beat online game anime at their own game, maybe it's mechas' turn? :P |
dice-eca said: well it seems that ging is not an enhancer like gone his nen is like Leorio so that makes him an Emitter man I am psyched. and if i remember correctly razor was an Emitter too It's not clear yet as he just mimicking Leorio's ability. But it close to specialization with that "needed to take one attack" requirement to mimic it. It also quite similar with Ging personality about "he remember all things that makes him curious". But probably he has other different Hatsu. |
| Damn, Ging is pretty badass, he didn't even try to take those soldiers out. |
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MShukyDeneuve said: dice-eca said: well it seems that ging is not an enhancer like gone his nen is like Leorio so that makes him an Emitter man I am psyched. and if i remember correctly razor was an Emitter too It's not clear yet as he just mimicking Leorio's ability. But it close to specialization with that "needed to take one attack" requirement to mimic it. It also quite similar with Ging personality about "he remember all things that makes him curious". But probably he has other different Hatsu. Hmmm, having limitations is natural to make nen techniques stronger but I do agree that I did get a specialist vibe this chapter even though I initially thought of him as likely an Enhancer based on his personality (and still think it's a possibility). I have a thread about the possible types of the characters, too. Pariston seemed like he'd be a transmitter to me. Good chapter. Will reread when there are better translations, lol. I do agree with Tony about what he just did basically telling us that this isn't a true revelation of his nen since Ging caught on. |
Ollyx2OxenFreeJul 15, 2014 12:29 PM
     "There is someone that I must meet again. And until that day... not even Death himself can take my life away!" |
| It's pretty obvious that real pledge to Ging's nen ability (or at least one of his attacks) is that the people actually take his money. I mean, he IS known as a gambler and influenced Kite to get a gambling-based Nen ability as well... Or actually, he might not gamble on getting people to accept his money, but putting their trust in him via the act of accepting money and/or believing his story about why he made that proposal in the first place. If that was true it would make for a far more devilish ability than I initially imagined - that would be one of the biggest pledges we have seen so far and it requires an incredible amount of planning and thought put into it. His copying ability is somewhat balanced as well, as he has to take the hit first and the pwoer is limited to attacks that deal physical damage. So far he lives up to the hype and has proven himself to be a fearsome enemy. I doubt we haven't even seen 1% of his real talent, though. I like that about this series: Here status not only implies tactical, logical and political capacities as well..it follows through with it. Unlike a certain series about a ninja with whiskers, for example... |
NidhoeggrJul 15, 2014 1:53 PM
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
Nidhoeggr said: It's pretty obvious that real pledge to Ging's nen ability (or at least one of his attacks) is that the people actually take his money. I mean, he IS known as a gambler and influenced Kite to get a gambling-based Nen ability as well... Or actually, he might not gamble on getting people to accept his money, but putting their trust in him via the act of accepting money and/or believing his story about why he made that proposal in the first place. If that was true it would make for a far more devilish ability than I initially imagined - that would be one of the biggest pledges we have seen so far and it requires an incredible amount of planning and thought put into it. Pariston Pledge should be something related to being vice/2nd in command then, make sense why Ging insist on being the 2nd in command. really... if all conditions were met pledge based Nen can't be called anything but cheats. |
| Ging's a specialist right? And seeing how he can use any ability that's been used on him makes me even more sure. Wow the way he used Leorio's powers was awesome. BA!! Leorio's ability is quite nice. He can use it as a doctor and as a fighter, also as espionage too since he can use the sonar like detection thing :O Nice ^^ |
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| Found this comment on Mangahere: "I think mimicking people's ability isn't Ging's real ability. He's perhaps a genius who can identify and understand the process of simple abilities (like Leorio's) and use it (only simple abilites though). His real Nen ability is yet to be shown" Has some interesting points there |
| Gutalala ~~ sudalala "It would be great to live as a human" -Meruem, King of the Ants |
seikipunch said: Found this comment on Mangahere: "I think mimicking people's ability isn't Ging's real ability. He's perhaps a genius who can identify and understand the process of simple abilities (like Leorio's) and use it (only simple abilites though). His real Nen ability is yet to be shown" Has some interesting points there To be honest that was kinda obvious after he showed his is amazing ability to control Nen, he himself said it "its nothing that great" shows how much of a prodigy he is ... anyway people here jumping the gun with the "mimic" thing you guys really think that his real ability is copying "simple" strike type Nen? |
| "Well, a simple ability, that's all" It's a abilities/hatsu but not his real ability. It's one of them. |
annie_leonheart said: seikipunch said: Found this comment on Mangahere: "I think mimicking people's ability isn't Ging's real ability. He's perhaps a genius who can identify and understand the process of simple abilities (like Leorio's) and use it (only simple abilites though). His real Nen ability is yet to be shown" Has some interesting points there To be honest that was kinda obvious after he showed his is amazing ability to control Nen, he himself said it "its nothing that great" shows how much of a prodigy he is ... anyway people here jumping the gun with the "mimic" thing you guys really think that his real ability is copying "simple" strike type Nen? I think he only uses his real ability once things get serious. Maybe he's that arrogant guy who thinks some people are too weak for his ability. |
| Gutalala ~~ sudalala "It would be great to live as a human" -Meruem, King of the Ants |
| Tl;dr for the people who can't read. -Pariston sets up a scenario to learn about Ging's hatsu. -Ging reads him like twilight, uses an ability that isn't his own, and calls him out. -Pariston is more butthurt. -Big robot finally talks. It uses other peoples nen for fuel (think Tsubone's hatsu). It can also mass produce emission weapons using other people's nen. -Pointy-ears is okay with Ging being 2nd; he just didn't like the methods that Ging was using to earn it($$$) -Ging accepts his faults, apologizes for it. Resolves his difference with the rest of the crew. -Ging admits he likes the crew. -More Pariston:Ging tension Also, copying somebody else's hatsu doesn't necessarily have to be the result of a nen ability; for reference, refer to Wing's explanation. |
| and Hunter x Hunter keeps on getting better and better. |
| I wonder if Pariston will fight Ging in the Dark Continent. Or maybe before. Their intellectual battles are already epic. |
| I'm developing a serious man crush on Ging, I won't even lie. Talk about living up to the hype. Pretty cool that those guys coming after them was just a "plan" by Pariston to get Ging to use his Hatsu and that he was seen through. I also wouldn't be too surprised if Ging was deceiving those guys with his "apology" and all. I may be wrong, but I can't help but wonder if he saw that as the best avenue to get the no.2 position. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Once again, Ging just shows how amazing he is. I'm to think that he's a specialist, too. Props to him for also once again reading Pariston, and props to Togashi for not only foreshadowing Leorio's abilities through Ging, but hinting at their origins, too. |
| Fantastic chapter. I'm absolutely loving Ging at this point, & his talent of being able to use other people's hatsu (assuming it's strike-based & he is hit by it [adds another layer to why he chose not to dodge Leorio's strike, though more likely as an added bonus]) is incredibly bad-ass & fitting for his character (it's also nice to know a little more on Leorio's nen ability, not that is was something shrouded in any kind of mystery). Still interested in finding out what his actually hatsu is, & Pariston for that matter but I'm more than happy to wait with chapters like this coming out. |
| I'm not gonna lie, I didn't like how Leorio's hatsu is used to hype Ging. Ging doesn't need it as much as Leorio. Leorio really needed to use these feats to redeem himself. Hope that he will get new feats ones we get in the Dark Continent. Also I hope that copying abilities isn't Ging's main hatsu, thats Chrollo's thing. |
| ''We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think?'' - Uchiha Itachi |
| That isn't a hatsu guys. As said before, Ging simply understand the hatsu and copy it. He's a genius above everyone. Before anything else, hatsus are techniques with nen, there isn't a rule that hatsus are exclusive to only one person. And Ging already show that he is a master at the shape and manipulation of nen. To him, it's just a matter of know how the hatsu works. |
| Neon Nostrade's hatsu is also a natural talent but it's a hatsu. We need Viz translation And Komugi too. http://hunterxhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Komugi |
WingZero1223 said: Once again, Ging just shows how amazing he is. I'm to think that he's a specialist, too. Props to him for also once again reading Pariston, and props to Togashi for not only foreshadowing Leorio's abilities through Ging, but hinting at their origins, too. My main reason for thinking Ging is probably not a specialist is the fact that him being one seems too generic of a move for Togashi. Making such an important character also a specialist. Besides that, he has the personality of an Emitter and is reminiscent of Yusuke from Togashi's other work. He's impatient, hotblooded and quick tempered like many Emitters. He's a genius but not likely a specialist. Nicevil said: At this point it's impossible to determine Ging's nen type. Which is so goddamn exciting. Pariston is most likely manipulation type though. http://i5.minus.com/iRDzFLVf1zaHX.png Looking forward to the next chapter!! Hmmm, that seems possible although I was thinking transmutation fit Pariston better. He's unpredictable and whimsical. Reminds me of Hisoka. Manipulators are also said to want to keep their families and loved ones safe while Pariston wants to do the opposite although I guess that's up for interpretation. He does seem a bit similar to Shalnark though. |
"There is someone that I must meet again. And until that day... not even Death himself can take my life away!" |
| Pariston is clearly a manipulator to me. He has a consistent personality so I don't think he is a transmuter, transmuters are also more fighter types. Pariston has yet to use his fists, so far he s been very good at talking and dodging. He's not impatient either, he's been waiting for Ging to do mistakes. I think Ging is a Game specialist. The whole theme about him is 'Gaming' and we all know togashi loves games :D. - He built Greed Island. - He likes Gambling. - He likes to do silly tricks with his aura. - He has a deep understanding of aura, which to me reinforces the idea that he can create complex things like GI. - He is good at video games. - All he wants is to have fun (quote from the election). |
| Das Feenreich! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUvxzKt5GoM |
SaSa-Zoldyck said: I'm not gonna lie, I didn't like how Leorio's hatsu is used to hype Ging. Ging doesn't need it as much as Leorio. Leorio really needed to use these feats to redeem himself. Hope that he will get new feats ones we get in the Dark Continent. Also I hope that copying abilities isn't Ging's main hatsu, thats Chrollo's thing. Even if it is his hatsu, which I don't think it is, Ging says he is only able to use "simple striking techniques" that he has been hit with. Chrollo is able to use more advanced techniques, I'm thinking. Such as the fish he summoned way back at Yorknew I don't think Ging can do something like that. It seems like Ging is literally able to memorize and apply attacks he has taken, which goes to show his level of nen mastery. I also like that we were shown a bit more about Leorio's fighting style, without him even being present. I thought that was pretty cool, tbh. Maybe he'll develop more abilities down the line, though. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Wooow! It's so cool seeing Ging demonstrate Leorio's hatsu. (It's nice to know Leorio found a medical application with his emitter type nen.) Ging was a cool character before... but I still used to think of him as a dick-wad. He was so mysterious and manipulative, I wondered what the man's real motivations were. Now, I can feel his sincerity. He genuinely enjoys new things, experiences and challenges. Ah, seriously, Ging is an awesome character. |
| Ging can copy the abilities of others |
j0x said: Ging can copy the abilities of others That's putting it a bit too plainly. He's basically so good that he can learn any physical nen move. Wing said that this was possible. |
SaSa-Zoldyck said: I'm not gonna lie, I didn't like how Leorio's hatsu is used to hype Ging. Ging doesn't need it as much as Leorio. Leorio really needed to use these feats to redeem himself. Hope that he will get new feats ones we get in the Dark Continent. Also I hope that copying abilities isn't Ging's main hatsu, thats Chrollo's thing. This isn't even his hatsu. Ging's just that much of a prodigy when it comes to nen, that he can easily copy a simple hatsu like Leorio's. |
TheDodo said: Pariston is clearly a manipulator to me. He has a consistent personality so I don't think he is a transmuter, transmuters are also more fighter types. Pariston has yet to use his fists, so far he s been very good at talking and dodging. He's not impatient either, he's been waiting for Ging to do mistakes. I think Ging is a Game specialist. The whole theme about him is 'Gaming' and we all know togashi loves games :D. - He built Greed Island. - He likes Gambling. - He likes to do silly tricks with his aura. - He has a deep understanding of aura, which to me reinforces the idea that he can create complex things like GI. - He is good at video games. - All he wants is to have fun (quote from the election). Hmmm, now that you mention it, perhaps manipulation does fit Pariston better. Well, not necessarily personality-wise but I can better see him manipulating than transmuting. Can't wait to see. Ging, I still think he's an emitter. |
"There is someone that I must meet again. And until that day... not even Death himself can take my life away!" |
SaSa-Zoldyck said: I'm not gonna lie, I didn't like how Leorio's hatsu is used to hype Ging. Ging doesn't need it as much as Leorio. Leorio really needed to use these feats to redeem himself. Hope that he will get new feats ones we get in the Dark Continent. Also I hope that copying abilities isn't Ging's main hatsu, thats Chrollo's thing. It comes from Ging's deep understanding of Nen. I remember a few other instances where Hatsu was 'copied' pretty easily. Gon and Killua mimiked Tsezguerra because it was trivial. Also technically Gon's Hatsu is just a KO so anybody with enough experience can do it. |
| Das Feenreich! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUvxzKt5GoM |
| Ging is now in Chrollo and Kakashi's team. And I liked Leorio's ability! Is it that simply, really? lol Or is just Ging so badass? |
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Ollyx2OxenFree said: My main reason for thinking Ging is probably not a specialist is the fact that him being one seems too generic of a move for Togashi. Making such an important character also a specialist. Besides that, he has the personality of an Emitter and is reminiscent of Yusuke from Togashi's other work. He's impatient, hotblooded and quick tempered like many Emitters. He's a genius but not likely a specialist. It's already been said that a person Nen type could become a Specialist at any point in his/her life. Maybe Ging was an Emitter, but now that he already experienced enough, I think he has become a Specialist. At least, that doesn't sound generic right? |
LLawliedJul 20, 2014 4:41 AM
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| Some people are confused. Ging's power isn't to copy abilities. He said simple attacks like a "strike attack" are easy to copy. It's not like he could use Netetero's 100 Hand Buddah or Kurapika's Chains. He might be a specialist though, definitely doesn't come off as an enhancer. |
| Just barely caught up! Though I'm definitely pleased to see that the fan translations have improved since the travesties that were chapters 341 and 342, I'm for sure going to subscribe to Weekly Shonen Jump from now on (not to mention purchase the backlog chapters). I'll save any real thoughts for once I've read them, but to just quickly comment, I'm really enjoying the new arc so far: especially the return of Kurapika and Leorio, who were my favorites way back in the time before Greed Island and Chimera Ant (each are now my 2nd and 1st favorite arcs, respectively). Perhaps the two of them can dethrone Killua and reclaim their crown; they're certainly on the right track. Also, Ging, way to live up to your hype dude. Can't wait to see his hatsu, can't wait to see the Dark Continent, can't wait to see where this is all heading! Mega excited. |
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| After all it was just a Pariston scheme and he got nothing, pretty funny. I wonder about Ging's nen type. |
| This only proves that Ging is indeed a Nen genius. And that double Spirit Gun! (Learning one Nen ability is hard enough and requires rigorous amount of training, but learning it in just one hit? Dem!) And yes, that "sonar-like" use of Nen. In par with Gyo and En, it will be like an extended sight, touch and hearing. |
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| Pariston = triple hunter, former vice chairman, former chairman, former Zodiac, troll King :D Don't understimate him :D |
| Ging's a damn badass vagabond! Great chapter |
| If that was only a part of Ging's abilities... That dude is really strong! |
| Ging was awesome in this chapter. Also it seems he has a similar ability like Chrollo but it seems he can only copy technique that are physical I guess? And he has to get hit by the technique before he can copy it. Good chapter. 4/5. |
| the Ging and Parisiton interaction is always entertaining Ging taking Leorio's technique and improving it after only being struck by it once also its nice to see Togashi implementing soldiers that don't value money over their comrades |
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