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Jul 11, 2014 2:02 AM
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Well done indeed Gray, well done. And looks like he says the quote of "You're my Father".
Jul 11, 2014 2:04 AM
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So the whole Deliora thing was a ruse?

Also Wendy is certainly proactive this arc huh? She's really been instrumental.
Jul 11, 2014 2:10 AM
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This keeps getting better and better...Gray was totally awesome this chapter.Well seems like every one is getting their moments.Next Wendy?
Dunno why i feels like this might be the last arc....i hope it's not
Jul 11, 2014 2:16 AM
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This keeps getting better and better...Gray was totally awesome this chapter.Well seems like every one is getting their moments.Next Wendy?
Dunno why i feels like this might be the last arc....i hope it's not
It shouldn't be, if I recall, Mashima had planned three more major arcs after Grand Magic Games.

Anyways, not sure what to think about the chapter. Gray was epic but that last page.. o.O
Jul 11, 2014 2:18 AM
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kaitonic said:
This keeps getting better and better...Gray was totally awesome this chapter.Well seems like every one is getting their moments.Next Wendy?
Dunno why i feels like this might be the last arc....i hope it's not


cant remember where i read this this, but i believe it is
Jul 11, 2014 2:19 AM
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Good job Gray. Well done defeating your father.

Next chapter is about Silver's past perhaps.
Jul 11, 2014 2:20 AM
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Gray's so strong!
Can't wait for the next chapter!
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kaitonic said:
This keeps getting better and better...Gray was totally awesome this chapter.Well seems like every one is getting their moments.Next Wendy?
Dunno why i feels like this might be the last arc....i hope it's not


cant remember where i read this this, but i believe it is


Wait, what? That can't be. :(
There's so many more adventures to come for them. :<
Jul 11, 2014 2:21 AM
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I'm really liking the new Wendy. Decent ending to the fight though that ending really took me by surprise. Definitely looking forward to the feels in the next chapter. 5/5
Jul 11, 2014 2:26 AM
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So Deliora is not even Deliora. Then Silver was likely never gonna kill him and was just testing him. Therfore this is a hollow victory for Gray. If it was really Deliora he'd be dead. End of story
Jul 11, 2014 2:32 AM

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Not too bad of an ending for that fight compared to the other ones seen before, good job Gray.
Jul 11, 2014 2:34 AM

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So wait.... Gray pretty much killed his own father? 100% flesh and blood father? While I like the fight I can't understand why Silver did this to test Gray...hopefully we get more answers. That's messed up but then again I read Rave so...yea stuff like that happened all the time

But yea it's a hollow victory
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Jul 11, 2014 2:37 AM

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lol wut?
I really enjoyed how Gray won the battle. But um, it's actually his dad.
That's quite something.
Jul 11, 2014 2:39 AM

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I'm guessing Silver has some vital connection to Deliora, or maybe Deliora had some kind of pact with him... i mean silver died in the rampage of Deliora right?So he was ressurected like he said.
Jul 11, 2014 2:40 AM

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I think...I have to cry... T-T

Great chapter again! So it's the real Silver?
Jul 11, 2014 2:43 AM
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how come silver knows natsu?all the explanation he gave to gray on how he revived in the hell's core? was that a lie? my brains hurt..............ugggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh


ratings: 5/5.hahah aha ha

i have to wait next chapter for the explaination! oh, by the way, maybe it will reveal next chapter why he visited a grave!................still my mind blows........→_→
Jul 11, 2014 3:04 AM

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Bah at least this sub plotline is finally over. We can move on to the core of the arc. End, Face and the rest of Tartaros. Clearly Mashima just wanted to finish Gray's side thing qucikly.
Jul 11, 2014 3:10 AM
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Bah at least this sub plotline is finally over. We can move on to the core of the arc. End, Face and the rest of Tartaros. Clearly Mashima just wanted to finish Gray's side thing qucikly.


you hate gray,don't you?
Jul 11, 2014 3:11 AM

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It was an okay chapter. I just hope Silver is actually in some way connected to Deliora and its not just a test to see if Gray can defeat Tartaros.

I miss me some helmetless Kyouka.
Jul 11, 2014 3:24 AM

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darkight rly pisses me off.... nothing seems to be good for you.... or you hate gray or you are a guy who just want things like he wants....

deliora was 2 mission of fairy tail and it is not a sub plotline....

gray won with a badass move against human form.... maybe he would lose vs the true form of deliora but he couldnt suck ice mage anymore....

maybe he is indeed deliora but the human form as some conscious of gray is father....
Yes, we may fall but there is something that we can do.... LIVE
Jul 11, 2014 3:26 AM

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testing him? how do you even know that?
Yes, we may fall but there is something that we can do.... LIVE
Jul 11, 2014 3:31 AM

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For like a secnd I thought gray was actually going to use iced shell. Mashima quit tricking me!!!

Next chapter is called silver's memories. Hopefully we'll get a thorough explanation on what exactly Silver is trying to do, and/ or what exactly he is.
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Jul 11, 2014 3:35 AM

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darkight rly pisses me off.... nothing seems to be good for you.... or you hate gray or you are a guy who just want things like he wants....

deliora was 2 mission of fairy tail and it is not a sub plotline....

gray won with a badass move against human form.... maybe he would lose vs the true form of deliora but he couldnt suck ice mage anymore....

maybe he is indeed deliora but the human form as some conscious of gray is father....


Not really. I hate the deliora gray's dad plotline. It would have made so much more sense for it to be Ultear's dad with an actual genuine grudge on Gray. Instead we get this boring and cheap development. Oh I am Deliora. PSYKE. I'm actually your dad and I was never gonna really kill you. Just look at how scared I was when you were about to sacrifice yourself. This whole mini subplot was a joke.
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kakoa1234 said:
darkight rly pisses me off.... nothing seems to be good for you.... or you hate gray or you are a guy who just want things like he wants....

deliora was 2 mission of fairy tail and it is not a sub plotline....

gray won with a badass move against human form.... maybe he would lose vs the true form of deliora but he couldnt suck ice mage anymore....

maybe he is indeed deliora but the human form as some conscious of gray is father....


Not really. I hate the deliora gray's dad plotline. It would have made so much more sense for it to be Ultear's dad with an actual genuine grudge on Gray. Instead we get this boring and cheap development. Oh I am Deliora. PSYKE. I'm actually your dad and I was never gonna really kill you. Just look at how scared I was when you were about to sacrifice yourself. This whole mini subplot was a joke.
[quote=Darklight0303][quote=kakoa1234]darkight rly pisses me off.... nothing seems to be good for you.... or you hate gray or you are a guy who just want things like he wants....


wouldnt that be the same? ultear dad would realize that gray is good boy protecting Ur and Ul names and then he would lose in human form as well ....

boring? we are seeing one of the best fights,emotional etc. in FT....admit it you hate gray.

testing? we dont know it yet



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Yes, we may fall but there is something that we can do.... LIVE
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Not really. I hate the deliora gray's dad plotline. It would have made so much more sense for it to be Ultear's dad with an actual genuine grudge on Gray. Instead we get this boring and cheap development. Oh I am Deliora. PSYKE. I'm actually your dad and I was never gonna really kill you. Just look at how scared I was when you were about to sacrifice yourself. This whole mini subplot was a joke.
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Not really. I hate the deliora gray's dad plotline. It would have made so much more sense for it to be Ultear's dad with an actual genuine grudge on Gray. Instead we get this boring and cheap development. Oh I am Deliora. PSYKE. I'm actually your dad and I was never gonna really kill you. Just look at how scared I was when you were about to sacrifice yourself. This whole mini subplot was a joke.


wouldnt that be the same? ultear dad would realize that gray good boy protecting Ur and Ul names and then he would lose in human form as well ....

boring? we are seeing one of the best fights,emotional etc. in FT....admit it you hate gray.

testing? k


Here's the thing he wouldn't know that. He would only know that Gray is responsible for the death of his wife and kid. That's it. If he learned that through the fight then fine.

Here's more proof that this is nothing but an isolated subplot. Answer me these questions three:

Is this plotline related in any way to End?

Is this plotline in any way related to Marde?

Is this plotline in any way related to Face?

The answer to all of those is no. It's self contained. A grain of dust that changes NOTHING in the grand scheme of this arc. It doesn't even make Gray any stronger since he just threw an iron ball with a giant ice arm. Not a new technique and certainly not something he'll be able to use at any time and hell Gajeel would just eat the damn thing if he tried.

Lucy was connected to Marde and saved everyone allowing FT to start fighting back. The connection to Marde came from the Spirit King.

Wendy was connected to face since she is now pretty much the leading force behind getting all the guilds to destroy the damn things.

Natsu I don't even have to mention since he has multiple connections the main one being Zeref and End.

Makarov is connected via Lumen Histoire. THe list goes on.

Now tell me what Gray's little thing achieved. Other than a deadly game of catch that Silver was going to throw anyway?
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So Silver is not Deliora and is Gray's father, what is going on, make up your mind.

Anyway a nice chapter, it if offical we have other guilds coming, I thought for sure Lyon would appear at the end. I like the montage, I am sure all the Gruvia fans will be histic, he cares enough to at least think about her. I am sure that is what they are saying. Nice that another couple got a moment, it is nice that NatLu get their moments, but let's share the wealth.

So Silver is really Gray's dad and he wanted to Gray to kill him, so that is why he antagonise him so much. Well I knew something was up that Silver was still in there somewhere in his reaction to Gray about to use Ice Shield. But he really is Gray's dad?

I am guessing he was dad, the demons found his corpse and revived him, and he like Minerva a few chapters, wanted to die and not be a half demon.

Good chapter, can't wait to see what the true deal with Silver is, and other guilds yay. Which mean the Lamia Scale including Jura and Lyon, the rest of Sabertooth including Yukino which could lead to a reunion with her sister, Mermaid Heel which includes Kagura, even Blue Pegasus they are good few laughs and a couple of the guys are cool, and Quarto Cerbes yay I will excited, okay I am being sarcastic who really cares about them?

I just thought of something what is Silver both Gray and Ultear's dad. Maybe he was the Gildarts of his time. So maybe he and Ur where married, Ur was pregnent and Silver found out he left, than he meet Gray's mom and had a family of his own. Just throwing it out there. Why does he ever know about Ur?
Jul 11, 2014 3:51 AM

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Gray was awesome this chapter.
Wendy is not finished yet.
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Jul 11, 2014 3:53 AM
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So that wasn't Deliora.
Man, talk about a twist in a twist.
Nice chapter.
Jul 11, 2014 4:21 AM

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So... plot un-twist?
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Wendy just look so childish now....

Why did Hiro had to cut Wendy hair to give her such childish looks???

What a waste.... my favourite character in FT is now with awful looks!!
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Jul 11, 2014 4:46 AM

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Wendy just look so childish now....

Why did Hiro had to cut Wendy hair to give her such childish looks???

What a waste.... my favourite character in FT is now with awful looks!!


Don't worry it'll grow back. Just look at Freed after the Festival arc
Jul 11, 2014 4:47 AM

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So twist-ception? XD

That was quite a nice win, piercing his dad with a ball lol

And yay! Gray really does love Juvia. Just look at that panel he thought about her in >.< Gruvia <3
Jul 11, 2014 5:13 AM

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Not really. I hate the deliora gray's dad plotline. It would have made so much more sense for it to be Ultear's dad with an actual genuine grudge on Gray. Instead we get this boring and cheap development. Oh I am Deliora. PSYKE. I'm actually your dad and I was never gonna really kill you. Just look at how scared I was when you were about to sacrifice yourself. This whole mini subplot was a joke.


/agree

Mashima : Eh I had a not so good idea. Let's change it for another not so good idea but since it's another twist people will say it's good because it's a twist !

nope sir
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Patricide? Has anyone really died in FT yet that is related to the good guys? D:
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Patricide? Has anyone really died in FT yet that is related to the good guys? D:


Simon, Ul, Ultear,
Jul 11, 2014 5:40 AM

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Ultear is dead?
Jul 11, 2014 5:47 AM

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Mixed feelings about how Wendy's 'personality' has changed so much... i mean, she looks cool but I love her past self too :/

Seems like we're gonna have a bunch of feels next chapter ;_;
Silver's past can't be anything simply considering how he lied to Gray with the demon he hated the most, and how he tested Gray knowing that his life would be at risk.

"Well Done" indeed, Silver ):
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according to the mangastream, the steelball came from the rubble, so it means it was there all the time because we all know that silver froze the sorroundings, so for those people who said it was an asspull, stop the bullshitness and read the mangastream, mangapanda is a shit translation, it was said that the steelball came from the sun village, where in fact the steelball came at the place where gray and silver fought!
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according to the mangastream, the steelball came from the rubble, so it means it was there all the time because we all know that silver froze the sorroundings, so for those people who said it was an asspull, stop the bullshitness and read the mangastream, mangapanda is a shit translation, it was said that the steelball came from the sun village, where in fact the steelball came at the place where gray and silver fought!


The steelball wasn't an asspull. The whole development was.
Jul 11, 2014 6:32 AM

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Well that was anticlimactic.
Jul 11, 2014 6:46 AM

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Wendy just look so childish now....

Why did Hiro had to cut Wendy hair to give her such childish looks???

What a waste.... my favourite character in FT is now with awful looks!!

Don't fret. Lucy has Cancer's magical scissors.
Jul 11, 2014 7:14 AM

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Well i agree that this was such a bad development. While i already anticipated this silver being Deliora was so forced. But what i truly feel awkward was not the truth of Silver is Gray's father, but how it is revealed. It's too generic and bad for my taste the situation "i actually your ..... and don't plan to kill you all along", this will resort on another flashback to justifies Silver reason. He just can say he is Gray's father from the beginning and it's fine with me.

And if Gray know about it, why he not say it and try to discover Silver motive instead beat him and complained afterwards? bad forced twist.

And Ultear isn't dead, isn't? she just retired because she is too old.
Jul 11, 2014 7:19 AM

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Amazing chapter!!
Gray was amazing, and Wendy is turning into an anwesome character! Now more Wendy and Natsu!!

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So wait.... Gray pretty much killed his own father? 100% flesh and blood father? While I like the fight I can't understand why Silver did this to test Gray...hopefully we get more answers. That's messed up but then again I read Rave so...yea stuff like that happened all the time

But yea it's a hollow victory


Yes. Gray is now responsible for majority of his real and adopted family's deaths.
Jul 11, 2014 8:11 AM

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The twist in 390 wasn't forced.. The only thing that seemed out of wack was Silver(besting posses by a demon) not acting like he should've been in people's eyes.. Silver is Gray's father.. It seems like people don't understand the concept of possession. I still don't think this twist was needed but that's my opinion... Silver being possessed by Deliora would've remained a good one if Hiro would've explained how Deliora was able to act like he had some sense

On one hand it does make much more sense and is much more explainable

On another Silver being possessed by Deliora could've played into the bigger plot

So it's like which do you have? Or silver could've just mentioned he wasn't possessed but then people would be calling it predictable.. Which people were half right at first but not the entire thing

I don't know..still iffy about this

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Wendy was cute...well she's always cute :)

Ohh didn't see that coming, it does make sense, when he didn't really actually try to kill/hurt/fight Natsu or even Lisanna..if it's Deliora they'll be in big trouble and like what the other said to the past chapters, how can he use ice magic.

Well a good background story would be great...and i am guessing that Silver already killed Deliora..as far as i remember that he was sealing "demons" like that "Giant's Town" where Corona grew up and he froze the fire dragon flame.


Silver's demon slaying magic is wasted :S could be a good weapon haha
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That's why Gray is a much better main character than Natsu will even be.
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That's why Gray is a much better main character than Natsu will even be.


LOL what? For killing his own dad like a moron even though he could tell it was him and not Deliora. YOu're hilarious
Jul 11, 2014 8:44 AM

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So it is his dad then. That was some attack there..
Jul 11, 2014 8:48 AM
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I loved this chapter! not only did mashima twist silver's identity again but the double fake from gray? its too much for me to handle in 1 episode.

Anyways, here is my theory on this. gray will learn how to use ice demon slaying magic from his father and gray will save the day! honestly though, if u look at 392 page 7 u can see that silver is actually concerned about gray. and that this feels like the fairy exam on tenrou island when natsu went up against gildarts, except now its gray and silver. perhaps silver is trying to get gray across a mental hurdle?
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What a "ego-twisting scenario" ..
gray won with the power of memories !!
Pretty good chapter !!!
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