| This is the direct transformation period of Berserk going from low fantasy to high fantasy; and it is really not something I think was the right direction. I personally enjoyed Guts feeding on his rage to slay his opponents. Not caring about anything but revenge and hatred. Not giving a second thought at other peoples lives. I am just not a fan of the new Guts and his merry troupe of social quirky outcasts, it is better suited for a generic shounen. I feel like we will never see the same stellar writing and character development as The Golden Age arc, and that the whole tone and feeling of the Manga has been shifted in a totally opposite direction. Those are my two cents, disagree as you want. :) |
| Isn't this exactly the same thing everyone who thinks it used to be better says? |
| I personally feel like it is a transition (a long one you might say), Guts is changing it's true but I think it's interesting to see how he manages to do it. Since the beginning I always thought to myself "how could it be possible for a human to defeat a god?" and I think the transition is slowly getting us to the "how". I mean, we clearly saw in the first volumes how Femto disposed of Guts when he tried to attack him. But yeah.. I understand what you mean I also thought the same at first. |
| What is wrong with that? It was always like that... |
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| I lost interest in the manga because of the current state of Casca. That and while the recent development of Guts needed to happen, I still don't particularly like it. The major issue still stands with the hiatus. The plot doesn't seem to have any conclusion in sight. I think it's pretty silly to drag the manga for 100+ chapters. |
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judals said: What is wrong with that? It was always like that... NOPE.....the old berserk did'nt have annoying brats and a stupid elf |
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Artorias said: grandy_UiD said: Possibly? I just really don't like the high fantasy aspects now. I don't like the change of Guts throwing his rage into a gigantic sword while slashing grotesque demons. To a band of heroes with magic armor and weapons buffed by the elements fighting mythical creatures of the "astral" world. (So dumb to make the intercise something so tangible and explained). Guts feels like the odd one out in the world now, and I really do not understand why the tone shifted so much. Isn't this exactly the same thing everyone who thinks it used to be better says? There are still remnants of this old structure of the manga like the Skull Knight, and even to a lesser extent the Berserker Armor. But even Griffiths army of demons feel much more light hearted, less gritty and, well....low fantasy. So you actually wanted Guts to continually kill apostles till he reached Griffith? I really think that would get boring fast and making Guts a rather static character overtime. Thus, I'm really glad he gained his companions to further develop his character. vongola-undecimo said: judals said: What is wrong with that? It was always like that... NOPE.....the old berserk did'nt have annoying brats and a stupid elf FYI, the "stupid" elf is ever-present in the first few chapters of volume 1...just saying. The only major complaint I had with the series is the state Casca is in for a reaaaally long time now (irregardless of Miura's lax publishing schedule), so I look forward to Elfhelm. |
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| Big fan of the series (still Am!) and I still can see your point. I'm exactly at the point where the series shifted its tone. There are major changes here with the introduction of magic and Guts's party seems to be sillier than before. However, I think that staying in the same format will eventually become boring and tedious SPECIALLY with such a long running manga.So if perhaps the manga was shorter, maintaining the original tone would have been more possible. I still love the series despite the changes. I think the transition was pretty smoothly done and not abrupt.The characters are still lovable and very very layered, which is what made me fall in love with the series originally. |
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| Don't worry OP you aren't the only one I feel the same exact way. There's a point in the manga around vol. 25 where they begin to explain magic and introduce the Berserker armor, from then on the manga has been deteriorating in terms of story. It started to feel more like a Shonen with power levels, nakama recruiting, cute magical girl characters, etc. I always liked the fact that Berserk had a dark low fantasy setting with lots of religious and philosophical undertones. I still think the manga is good but it's not as good as it use to be. The last arc (pirate arc) is a perfect example of how the manga has deteriorated compared to previous arcs. I mean what was the point of that mini-arc to begin with, mermaid recruiting? They didn't really achieve anything in particular, other than fighting a big ass sea monster that almost killed Guts. I just hope Miura comes back from his break and finally pushes the story forward in a significant way. That last chapter was a good start but not nearly enough development. They need to get to Elfenheim, Caska's character needs some resolution, and Griffith needs to do more than just play god. |
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vongola-undecimo said: judals said: What is wrong with that? It was always like that... NOPE.....the old berserk did'nt have annoying brats and a stupid elf FYI, the "stupid" elf is ever-present in the first few chapters of volume 1...just saying. [/quote] You should know i was referring to the GA arc when i said *old berserk* |
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grandy_UiD said: Isn't this exactly the same thing everyone who thinks it used to be better says? That's because it's true, it was much better when it was low-dark fantasy. The magic and power levels have really eroded what was once a really good Seinen manga. I've re-read Berserk several times and I always come to the same point in the manga, around volume 25, where I begin to lose interest in the story. It feels disjointed from the rest of the manga, like at some point Miura just decided to start another manga in the middle of Berserk. Most people that have been reading this manga for years know what I'm talking about. |
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| its fiiiiiiiine. guts with companion, and then he was alone, and then he has companion again now. its fiiiiiiine, its good character development and i like when miura too lazy to draw puck and he just become fat chibi 'something' |
| Honestly I don't feel this way at all. I think likening how it is now to generic shonens is increidbly simple minded. Guts group has been a very complex dynamic from their origins to how they have fleshed out, far more then any Shonen, even my beloved One Piece. Regardless of those feelings I think its silly to complain about. To me, knowing about the kind of guy Miura is, you can bet the 'shifts' you claim were planned from the beginning. At the very least the mangas name should make that clear, the armor. |
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| I just miss that brutality and Guts yearning for revenge against Griffith. It seems they strayed too far away from that. |
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| It just goes to show that Griffith and Guts are very crazed and twisted. I just hope this manga ends with guts annihilated or forever tortured. Thus BERSERK |
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LuciferIAm said: Honestly I don't feel this way at all. I think likening how it is now to generic shonens is increidbly simple minded. Guts group has been a very complex dynamic from their origins to how they have fleshed out, far more then any Shonen, even my beloved One Piece. Not really,other than guts/Casca,there's no "complex" dynamic Loli Witch-Shit happens,leaves Home,has a crush on Guts The Chick-Shit happens,leaves home,wants to atone for her sins,has a crush on Guts Serpico-Pyro's bodyguard Konohamaru 2.0-Wants to be as strong as Guts Fairy-erm........I guess he has some purpose |
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| I secretly wish Miura is just building up Gatts' party so he can kill them off in the most horrifying manner possible in order for Gatts to really go full insane rampage mode. |
vongola-undecimo said: LuciferIAm said: Honestly I don't feel this way at all. I think likening how it is now to generic shonens is increidbly simple minded. Guts group has been a very complex dynamic from their origins to how they have fleshed out, far more then any Shonen, even my beloved One Piece. Not really,other than guts/Casca,there's no "complex" dynamic Loli Witch-Shit happens,leaves Home,has a crush on Guts The Chick-Shit happens,leaves home,wants to atone for her sins,has a crush on Guts Serpico-Pyro's bodyguard Konohamaru 2.0-Wants to be as strong as Guts Fairy-erm........I guess he has some purpose Oh gawd, it just dawned on me that Berserk is slowly becoming a harem... |
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MEsoJD said: I just miss that brutality and Guts yearning for revenge against Griffith. It seems they strayed too far away from that. I'm sure the time for that will come eventually, probably after one piece is over :D I think it's good to have changes, if it was always the same, these exact same people would probably say it became boring or something :P |
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