Sailor Moon Eternal Edition
emeraldrosary said: The time difference only gets bigger when you consider that the transformation scenes will be longer for the other Sailors as well. Which matters fuck-all since Manga, after first one or two cases, just has them insta-transform or appear in the scene already transformed. |
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| I'm not feeling the cgi but changing the bgm is actually a bigger issue for me. I LOVE the original's transformation bgm. Oh well...gotta get with the times I guess. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| actually i do not mind the 3D/CGI but i prefer the old one simply because the music is better that its upbeat |
emeraldrosary said: Fai said: I've only seen the anime and they always include transformation scenes every episode. Even if they skipped the scenes in the manga, I doubt they will do that here. Especially since they took the time to use CGI and 3-d effects. Well, in the end we can only wait and see to find out. Only a couple days left :DWhich matters fuck-all since Manga, after first one or two cases, just has them insta-transform or appear in the scene already transformed. Considering they will most likely cover the first two story arcs and they have total of 26 30 min episodes(~1-1.5 chapter per episode), that barely gives them time enough to spend ~13 episodes per story arc(~12-13 episodes for Sailor Moon and ~12-13 for Black Moon). AND the first arc has to include SailorV backstory one way or the other. There's no space to waste. And it would not fit tone-wise for ~70% of the content after the introductory phase. j0x said: actually i do not mind the 3D/CGI but i prefer the old one simply because the music is better that its upbeat Which yet again would not fit tone-wise. Kajiura Yuki-esque chorus of doom is more fitting. |
AhenshihaelJul 3, 2014 4:18 AM
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| The new one looks like it's from Miku Miku Dance or something. :P Honestly, I think part of the appeal of the original Sailor Moon is that it's so 90s. When you lose that 90s aesthetic, it takes away a lot of the charm of the original. |
| They have really doner sailor moon a disservice with this. I mean, apart from her being waaaaaaaay too thin, the CGI looks damn cheap. They should have blown some extra money on a high quality 2d animation fitting the legacy. I mean, compare this with the nanoha transformations (TV version vs. movies). THAT's how you do it. |
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| I'll get used to the new one and the CGI. After a 2nd look, I think it's impressive. Old music is better though. LET'S GO! |
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| Older one is better, without a doubt. They should have just made the CGI (or something at least similar to it), then trace over it so the animation isn't as obvious and cheap-looking. |
peeyaj said: Fueille is a deconstruction of a decent human being. |
| Good god that cgi is awful D: It's so cheap looking. Very disappointed! |
SolviteSekai said: The problem isnt that its cgi. The problem is the cgi is terrible. Toei improved a lot over the pasty ears (look at pretty Cure!) but I have to agree. I prefer the old transformation as well, simply because it is more consistent, doesn't stick out from the rest of the series' style as far as we can judge that for now and is.. well.. not CGI. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| Love Live has essentially opened the flood gates. Now any time anyones moving around a lot, its probably going to switch to CGI, regardless of genre. |
| Of course old one. This new looks so cheap, I think even some fans could make it better. Btw.. Correct me if im mistaking but i think Usagi's hair in the manga was silver, only as a sailor soldier her hair was golden, right? |
| First one is better "Because nostaliga" <3 |
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SolviteSekai said: The problem isnt that its cgi. The problem is the cgi is terrible. ^ this |
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| was the cgi even necessary ? why not just animate? |
| Ughh, those spaghetti arms and legs, the new transformation sequence extols anorexia >_< |
| The new one look better for me. I don't see anything wrong with using cgi |
thepathJul 4, 2014 4:44 PM
| NOOOOO NOT CGI ;_; Hopefully it doesn't take the magic awat from the show. I'm REALLY looking forward to reliving my childhood! |
| No metter what they do, the old will always be better. I'm sorry, I can see they tried, but the old one is a classic. I was wondering if I should even watch this new version since I'm an old fan. I will watch it but all the CGI and the new music....I don't know...What was wrong with Moon Desentsu? It was great, they should have just made a cover.... Yes, I am biased towards the old one :D |
xXWoLFxChAoSXx said: Never watched the original anime, but the new transformation is far better than the old one. How is a well done CGI animation worse than 2d stock footage? I don't understand you MAL... It's mal. MAL rules: Everything cgi is evil. Everything progressive is evil. God forbid someone adds same sex relationships to the show. Characters showing human emotions makes them whiny. Especially if they are female. For character to be cool he/she has to be sociopath with no human empathy nor logical human reactions to its surroundings. If the show does not have moe or lolis its not a good show. If its not an overrated LN adaptation. Its not a good show. RLinksoul said: It's better suited for an upbeat cutesy show like that, but Sailor Moon had a softer feminine charm to it. Considering the original true sailor moon, not counting messed up anime adaptation, is still one of the most gender-norm-breaking things japan ever written, that's okay. The transformation has to be elegant, not really "feminine". We have girls dressing like boys, girls dressing like girls, girls liking girls, girls liking boys, girls liking both, boys transforming into girls and vice-versa, etc. The scout transformations draw inspiration from tokusatsu shows and shonen genre. It IS supposed to be brash and energetic. The scouts do not throw pretty hearts at villains or redeem them(despite what previous adaptation tried to show you)with love - they stab you with swords and kill the fuck out of you with elemental attacks. |
AhenshihaelJul 5, 2014 2:18 AM
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| i like the old one too |
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| I usually like CGI, but good CGI, and the transformation CGI was not good... I mean, stick with the animation you had from the beginning. Suddenly changing really does hurt the eyes and it doesn't fit... And the original duration was fine and it had covered all essential parts, but this one is too long. |
| I am continuing to remain cautiously optimistic that the reboot will be good (it was a pretty blase first episode, but it absolutely was true to the manga--to the point where numerous shots were exact imitations of manga panels--and so I'm holding out hope that it could get good).....but the one major complaint I had was the new transformation sequence. It's just -bizarre-. Others have mentioned the spaghetti arms, but also the bit where her boots appear and she looks like a robot? The old transformation sequences (for all the senshi) were so beautiful and artistic, and this just looks....like a kid playing around with computer graphics. I guess if the transformation sequence is the worst thing about it, I shouldn't complain, eh? (But oh, the transformations are such a big part of it! As a kid, they were one of my -favorite- things about the original. And we know we'll see it again and again...and again.) |
| The CGI isn't that bad. Now, Shaft's CGI for mekaku city actors, that was bad. The problem here is that it stands out too much. |
| Please understand. |
Kuromii said: The new one would have been lovely if they hadn't gone with the cheap, ugly cgi. this |
Fai said: xXWoLFxChAoSXx said: Never watched the original anime, but the new transformation is far better than the old one. How is a well done CGI animation worse than 2d stock footage? I don't understand you MAL... It's mal. MAL rules: Everything cgi is evil. Everything progressive is evil. God forbid someone adds same sex relationships to the show. Characters showing human emotions makes them whiny. Especially if they are female. For character to be cool he/she has to be sociopath with no human empathy nor logical human reactions to its surroundings. If the show does not have moe or lolis its not a good show. If its not an overrated LN adaptation. Its not a good show. RLinksoul said: It's better suited for an upbeat cutesy show like that, but Sailor Moon had a softer feminine charm to it. Considering the original true sailor moon, not counting messed up anime adaptation, is still one of the most gender-norm-breaking things japan ever written, that's okay. The transformation has to be elegant, not really "feminine". We have girls dressing like boys, girls dressing like girls, girls liking girls, girls liking boys, girls liking both, boys transforming into girls and vice-versa, etc. The scout transformations draw inspiration from tokusatsu shows and shonen genre. It IS supposed to be brash and energetic. The scouts do not throw pretty hearts at villains or redeem them(despite what previous adaptation tried to show you)with love - they stab you with swords and kill the fuck out of you with elemental attacks. How is this even sort of true? Mal is in love with ufotable who throw CGI in everything. Get off your fanboy soap box and calm the fuck down. |
| I hated the new one. CGI is soooo bad OMG. I think it was the only thing I didn't like in this remake. |
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| I like the old series list but the new one is not bad, at least they inspirit the anime once again.. |
mangamuscle said: Ughh, those spaghetti arms and legs, the new transformation sequence extols anorexia >_< yeah '-' Toei pls --' |
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| I think I will always love the old one. I was excited to hear it was CGI and how the creators wanted to do it so they could move freely around them as they transform, but I have mixed feelings. For example, when did her arms and legs get so... long and flexible? I did like parts like the 3D effect when she twirls and her tiara appears. I just keeping thinking how the other senshi will look. Very cautious. |
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| that new transformation is ugly as hell |
| Not gonna lie, the CG look a lot better than all the other anime that have used CG (that I have seen) over the years. |
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| the old one... dat 3d thing pf horrible CGI |
OriginANIME said: Not gonna lie, the CG look a lot better than all the other anime that have used CG (that I have seen) over the years. No it doesnt. |
WildGirlViki said: No metter what they do, the old will always be better. I'm sorry, I can see they tried, but the old one is a classic. I was wondering if I should even watch this new version since I'm an old fan. I will watch it but all the CGI and the new music....I don't know...What was wrong with Moon Desentsu? It was great, they should have just made a cover.... Yes, I am biased towards the old one :D Momoiro Clover Z did do a cover, it's on the tribute album, and it's mediocre at best. They definitely would need a different artist to have kept Moonlight Densetsu. |
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| I prefer old one to be honest.It feels more classy and doesn't use bad CGI. OriginANIME said: Go watch Sidonia no Kishi or Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio.Even Fate/Zero had some good CGI moments.Not gonna lie, the CG look a lot better than all the other anime that have used CG (that I have seen) over the years. |
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| For the love of god.....PLEASE have at least ONE sequence or something with Moonlight Desetsu! |
| I think the old one is much better. |
SolviteSekai said: OriginANIME said: Not gonna lie, the CG look a lot better than all the other anime that have used CG (that I have seen) over the years. No it doesnt. Yeah seriously. This is actually one of the worst examples I have seen. |
Fai said: Only in mal would a top of the line computer animation procedure would be considered "cheaper" as 2d stock footage.Only in mal. Anyway, the comparisons do not really matter since we will see the sequence itself once maybe twice through the whole show - same for the others. 3D is cheaper and less time consuming than animating by hand. The CGI they used looked like shit, the Ultimate Ninja Storm games look better than that. The actual animation was good, just wish it was hand drawn. |
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| You know what, given the fact that it was Toei and the fact that they are in charge of the Precure shows, I'd expect them to have really good CG, I mean Precure ending CG is just so much better at least it looks a bit more realistic. The way they animated Usagi is just bad, I don't know if its because she looks skinnier than a barbie doll or what, but its just a little to unappealing for my standards, but its definitely not the worse CG I've seen. |
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| The CGI transformation was actually pretty good!! Even though i wish they made it 2D like what Precure does and only do CGI when using a new attacks or so. Though i love the added small details like Usagi's nail's being sparkly and how you can still see her White Pantsu during the transformation while in the old one she's already dress out of nowhere etc. Though i do wonder why Toei has been making a lot of CGI's in their Mahou anime's. I know it started in Fresh Precure, but i really love the 2D Animation much better just to be consistent with the whole episode. I know people will complained about the CGI transformations, but you'll get used to it like i did in Precure. Hard to choose, but i'll go with New just to balance the votes :P |
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