Poll: Macross Episode 21 Discussion

Oct 5, 2009 2:44 PM

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Character development episode, and a pretty good one, I'm glad we get to see more on Hikaru and Hayase, Hayase is definetely more interesting than Minmay.
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Oct 6, 2009 9:26 AM

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Lol, wtf Minmay. You're kissing your cousin! Nasty.
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Dec 5, 2009 11:32 AM

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Beatnik said:
Lol, wtf Minmay. You're kissing your cousin! Nasty.
Its a movie, they aren't cousins there...
Jul 31, 2010 8:09 AM

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Beatnik said:
Lol, wtf Minmay. You're kissing your cousin! Nasty.

I agree xD
Oct 17, 2010 9:11 AM

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Hayase and Hikaru!
It was such a contrast to that time Hikaru got trapped with Minmei, even the situation being less dramatic-Hikaru trying to be the man to support and comfort Minmei, Minmei whining and being useless. Between Hayase and Hikaru, they try to blame each other then settle for waiting it out like calm, reasonable people, poke at each others' weaknesses, and comfort each other in mutual understanding. Being around Hayase even makes Hikaru more mature, reflecting on himself as she's prone to doing.

These two have reached 'NEEDS TO HAPPEN' status.
Feb 14, 2011 9:54 AM

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Yes Hayase is waaaaay more interesting than Minmay. It needs to happen, although I'm sure they will find some way to get him back to Minmay.
Apr 12, 2011 6:11 PM

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Beatnik said:
Lol, wtf Minmay. You're kissing your cousin! Nasty.

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May 5, 2011 8:40 PM

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Great episode, I've always found Hayase more interesting than Minmay as well. I mean, in many ways she is one of the most mature acting characters in the series and senerikfred pretty much described it best. Not that I dislike Minmay, it's just she's very immature when compared to Hayase. Also, the bond seems to be stronger between Hikaru and the latter. He doesn't feel as pressure imo and I think that's a definite good thing.
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May 17, 2011 9:17 PM

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The former alien spies were lying to their teeth. XD I wonder if things would have turned out to be different if he was sitting on the reserved VIP seat Minmay got for him?
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Jun 8, 2011 1:57 AM

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Hayase and Hikaru look so good together. Damn, I wish the attack would have last longer~
Jun 22, 2011 2:16 PM

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The "death beam" was priceless. Those spies always manage to crack me up, loved this episode.
Nov 24, 2011 2:11 PM

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burntlettuce said:
The "death beam" was priceless. Those spies always manage to crack me up, loved this episode.

lol agreed the spies make this series so much better
Aug 3, 2012 8:44 PM

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Hah hah, watching the aliens freak out over kung fu special effects, best laugh I've had in a while! And though I actually like Lynn, Hayase is definitely more mature and nuanced.
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Nov 1, 2012 2:22 PM

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The Zentraedi sometimes really are like gullible children. Their reaction to the film was priceless.
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May 25, 2013 11:57 PM

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A night at the movies! ^^ Not realy.
Kaifun =_=
Hah, Hikaru is so enthusiastic he misses Minmay.
Aliens watching the movie too! And that pilot woman, I'd like to see her confront Kaifun :) Max noticed the Zentradi woman :] Looks like another (awesome) love triangle in the making *chuckles*
I love when they insert sneesing of person discussed :D

Poor Shami. But she picked it up fast.

So many Misa moments :3 I have nothing against Minmay but obviously I like Misa in essense much more. I still think Hikaru and Minmay are better pair, and Misa's interest in Kaifun is doomed (he is not that Raiber after all) Generaly she is as much down as Minmay is cheerful. She needs a serious romance, not an affair but as of now, they have a thing with Hikaru, I doubt it won't be short lived, more likely untill the Kaifun situation is resolved.
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Aug 11, 2013 4:50 PM

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The plot is getting pretty interesting now. Macross forced to leave Earth and Zentraedi forces becoming miclones (humans) just so they can get on Macross.

And Milia is alive! She was gone for a few episodes I thought she might really be dead. Looking forward to more of her saucy piloting skills ;D
Oct 12, 2013 11:53 PM

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Confucius said:
Beatnik said:
Lol, wtf Minmay. You're kissing your cousin! Nasty.

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For God's sake people, I thought it was common knowledge that cousin marriage is not taboo in Japan at all. Hell, the goddamned Prime Minister Kan married his first cousin for Heaven's sake! How can you watch anime and not bother to research even a little about the culture you are witnessing?

Also, I don't know why you are all so surprised at this. Even in the US is completely legal to marry your first cousin in some states (California for example) so it's not like it's some kind of unheard thing at all.
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Completely legal in most states, all provinces, and just about every jurisdiction in the world. This is the typical reaction in forums whenever a potential romance is shown between cousins, non-blood-related siblings, couples where one is older than the other (particularly when it is the female), and other non-standard relationships.

No surprise that Minmay and Hikaru seem to be moving in opposite directions. Their careers are really taking divergent paths, and without a lot of interaction there isn't much that will keep them together in the long run. That hand grabbing by Misa pretty well seals the deal on a possible relationship with Hikaru. That makes it two long heartfelt talks, and two kisses (plus the almost kiss of this episode), looks to me like Misa has an insurmountable lead.
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Nov 8, 2014 11:22 AM

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Well she sure bounced back quickly didn't she?
Gotta love these inconsistencies and bad writing this series presents each episodes.

Jan 26, 4:27 AM

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amateur said:
Well she sure bounced back quickly didn't she?
Gotta love these inconsistencies and bad writing this series presents each episodes.
I don't think it's really an inconsistency, it's probably just her way of dealing with loss.
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oh my fuck
Feb 17, 2:50 PM

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Oh Britai! You're so silly!
Aug 27, 2:50 AM

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Minmay misses Hikaru after she hasn't seen him in a long time even projecting Hikaru onto Kaifun when he was pulling her up. Makes me wonder whether she's maybe realizing that she maybe has feelings for Hikaru? Or maybe i'm looking into it too much and she just misses him as a good friend.

It's happening!! The Misa X Hikaru ship is real! Loved that their relationship has grown into this real honest, fun, supporting relationship. But it's not real, not yet. It's a good thing the kiss didn't happen this episode as they still have to sort out their feelings for Kaifun and Minmay. They're using each other to comfort each other as they're both heartbroken right now, I want it to be REAL if they actually do kiss.

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Oct 20, 6:05 AM

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Misa x Hikaru is the way to go

The villains reaction to the movie was great.
Oct 25, 2:48 PM

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nyan nyan? lol i feel like thats referenced in future macross series' lol xP

and lol the aliens were making it sound like minmay was a slut lmao

i think i like misa better than minmay atm.... to be completely honest
Nov 14, 12:07 AM

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Misa x Hikaru <3