Kagerou Daze (light novel)
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| yay kuroha appearance~ finally! i wish there was a outerscience song insert i wish there were more episodes too:/ overall i think the series wrapped up decently, besides a compressed/rushed ending, but still pretty good. still some confusing parts with the haze... ayano got really pretty at the end :D summertime record song still gives me teary feels though what about haruka?? (was waiting for a scene where he wakes up in a hospital bed after everything goes back to normal) lol my understanding of the story is like a huge blur...i think its time to go read the LN... |
haineko123Jun 29, 2014 6:31 PM
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| ....Well... that certainly was... something.... Overall I think the story was O.K. (Apart from Hiyori and Ayano surviving, they should've stayed dead. Not that I hate them but a bittersweet ending like that would be better IMO) People who already know the source material, or are used to heavy cryptic plots will probably get it and will like the story, only thing I didn't like about it was again, the ending, but I guess it's fine. People have different tastes. Jin did his part well on that note. Everything else however..... My god... the animation... just watch the combined "fight" against the guards.... I cringed. Kuroha "killing" all the characters too, I mean COME ON what's wrong with showing a little more blood, at least make them spit some out, Kido was thrown several meters and hit a solid pillar (or tank? forgot) FFS. The dialogues were not well executed too... not to mention the rushing of the series and this episode in particular and also lack of explanations. Exactly how did Ayano's power affect anyone in anyway again? What was Shintaro's power? Reading Steiner? If it was shown more properly then this would not have been that much of a problem IMO. Oh, and they butchered Summertime record. Just silhouettes? Really? At least give us that standing dramatically while wind was blowing scene... As for the animation style, well... I would have preferred BONES' style but I guess SHAFT's style fits it too... if it weren't for the low quality... Music was awesome though. low budget, low quality, low quantity of episodes means this will get a low score between 4/10 to 6/10 |
AzuStar said: as some1 who barely touched the original work, i can say i Liked this anime. i understood everything. those three guys with snakes were coming back from the "snake dimension". they weren't actually dead. they were able to come out of the snake dimension because of they had snakes in them. this timeline is different because that one guy w/ the snake that can see different timelines used his ability to full fruition. he then got the girl in the "snake dimension" to use her ability and make everyone speak up to stop snake queen from restarting time again. Very clear explanation. Thank you :) Fencel said: - So basically the snake ran a long, long gambit to continue to exist forever by engineering events that would lead to the creation of a new Queen, who would continually reset the world forever so that she can continue to spend time with her friends. - By doing this, the snake can continue to exist through Kenjirou's wish endlessly, as it would never be fulfilled through the continual reset of the world. - The creation of the daze and the deaths of those who were swallowed by the daze were all recreated by Marry in every timeline so those are the circumstances that led to Marry meeting her friends in the original timeline. - The incomplete Queen Marry created a new snake from her feelings of wanting to relive the past, bestowing the power on Shintaro. From every timeline after that that, Shintaro has the Branding Eyes, which allows him imprint and recall all of his memories, even from previous worlds. - Shintaro is thus able to reach the daze, retrieve Ayano, inform her of her power to convey her thoughts (the Favoring Eyes), and lead her to berserk Marry. - With Ayano present, Marry becomes the complete Queen. Ayano uses her ability to convey Shintaro's memories of the previous timelines and sends it to Marry, who is able to gain control of her Queen powers and orders the daze to swallow up the entire world. - With that, Kenjirou is reunited with Ayaka and his wish on the snake is fulfilled, forcing it to seek another wish in desperation to continue existing. - The snake is unwillingly made to grant Konoha's final wish to save Hiyori, and is turned into a surrogate life for her, allowing her to return to life. With the wish fulfilled, the snake goes silent, its consciousness ceasing to exist. - Marry divides the snakes once again and returns them to her friends, including Haruka, allowing them all to exit the daze as she creates a new future. - Konoha is a separate existence from Haruka. The Awakening Eyes and the Opening Eyes are part of a set: the Awakening Eyes creates a new body, and the Opening Eyes allows mental transfer to the new vessel. - Ayano had always been able to leave the daze, but she was unaware of what was going on outside of it, and remained inside believing that she had to in order to prevent her siblings from being killed by the completion of the Medusa. The Ayano speaking to Shintaro in his dreams is actually his snake taking on Ayano's form, attempting to awaken his memories of its existence. Everything makes sense with those explanations. It was a fun ride :) Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
ZelotJun 30, 2014 3:28 AM
| "If anyone wishes to stop me, let them try. If there any whose dispair can match my own!" - Lelouch Lamperouge. |
| A little confusing in the beginning, but once I got the hang of what was going on, I started to enjoy it. The ending seemed a bit anticlimatic. Sent with Mal Updater |
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| I pretty much understand everything that went on but the specifics of alot of stuff eludes me. I generally liked the setting, story and characters so I suppose eventually I'll have to check out the source material/spin-off stuff and give this a re-watch. |
| Meh it was ok. I think that I enjoyed it more as the show went on because I was able to understand some more stuff. Kuroha was pretty underwhelming. He wanted Marry to keep making wishes so he wouldn't disappear. Pretty lame. From what people have said, this was like an extension to the other source material. So basically in Lost Time Memory, when Shintaro sees all of those images, those are basically the different routes from the source material (like A, B, and C). The anime says that basically at the end of every route, Marry basically reset everything since all of her friends died. But in the anime ( D ) Shintaro is able to pass the memories of routes A-C with the help of Ayano to Marry, who is then able to change the direction of the route. Then everyone is alive, and has a happy ending (except maybe not Kenjirou?) and we get to see Ayano looking amazing. The one thing I didn't understand though was the meaning of Marry's little speech at the very end. I also enjoyed that ending Summer Time Record. InTheOtherWorld said: Moodie said: its his direction he is basically ran everything in this anime Shinbo directed this, not Jin. You can blame him for weird animation quirks. Jin does not control the quality of the animation itself, Shaft is also responsible for this. You can blame the story on Jin, but the animation is all Shaft. Blame Jin for the shitty story. Blame Shaft for the shitty animation. End of story. |
ZelotJun 30, 2014 3:28 AM
| So little time with Ayano that I just stopped caring to know much of this series. The story between the monster and the human was really interesting to me as well but... with this ending and missing parts I do not feel inclined to watch and read the other materials. I guess this is the author's work at hand with this anime. What a mess. |
| Feeling Down? Healing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXr0L4pOnV8 Soothing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT3o_BBH61c Interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UpZnSjMko4 Female? Gotcha covered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8cOqzku9zA ...yeah |
MsChii said: And damn. NO HaruTaka. :< BOO. This. My biggest disappointment. Seriously, the last time we heard of Haruka, he said "I want to see you, Takane". So much teasing! In the end, they do not even exchange a single word on-screen after episode 6. Not to mention Takane's pathetic reaction to Konoha a the beginning of the episode. Momo had to pry it out of her. Yes, Momo, who is (with Marry) probably the one that knows the least about Haruka. I know I shouldn't complain because HaruTaka got a whole episode, but it's painful not to see a single hint after that huge teasing. By the way, if someone has HaruTaka fanfictions to share, please PM me :) Just as Marry did in the previous timelines, i'll chose a happy fantasy over the grim reality. |
| It was ok... Very Shaft like until the very end. |
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| I watched the anime first BUT the last episode, went and read the manga, listened to the songs, read all the light novels than came back and watched the last episode. I must say i love everything about the story and the character. I haven't been so in love with a series since Durarara!! Now, i look at monogatari series, then i look at MCA. WTF SHAFT ?? U cand create such beautiful animations, i always loved the stylish animation of gatari.. why couldn't u do the same for MCA ? Anyways i see how it can be confusing for some, but i fully understand the ending, and all my questions are answered, therefore i LOVED IT 8.5/10 if the animation was better it would've been 10/10 !!! |
| I still don't know what happened. At the very least, the songs are ok. |
JoksPacifistJun 30, 2014 11:39 AM
| Well that was an interesting episode! I understood everything until the last half, where I got kind of confused. But from reading some comments, and interpretations I understand the ending a little better. I like how every character got to use their power in some form. I give the series an 8/10. It had a very interesting premise that was very multi-layered, which I adored. However they didn't explain it nearly well enough for me to get a proper grasp of the series until I turned to outside resources. I still liked the series, and I do definitely plan on buying the novels when they are released in English! The world of this series has a lot of potential! |
| So basically they just repeated the same loop over and over again, but they finally broke it? I'm confused.... 6/10 it was alright, but I wanted more of a reaction from Takano when she found out about Haruka (Konoha). I wanted them to be happy together, but both existences died? |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
| Shaft sometimes can be hit or miss. The Monogatari series is a hit. Mekauku City Actors...it's not that I was confused, but that it felt like it built up to be something it wasn't? I don't know if that's the correct way to put it. I still enjoyed it and the characters were great. It's just the execution of the show is questionable at best. 7/10 |
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solance said: While i'm complaining, why wasn't this called Outer Science? in fact, why didn't anybody die? that was the whole point of Outer Science and Summertime Record. what gives? i really don't get this. Summertime Record would not happen if Outer Science happened. They cannot exist in the same timeline. Every timeline before this one ended with Outer Science, in which the Snake of Clearing Eyes forced Mary to reset time. (Summertime Record technically didn't happen in the songs, according to the chronological timeline) The anime timeline was on the verge of another Outer Science until Shintaro and Ayano intervened, turning it into Summertime Record. |
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| sadly till the end i dont fully understand it, maybe the story was originally good but they not able to tell the story properly, probably watching the second time could improve... anyway, did they leave saving Hiyori to second season? |
infinitumxx said: Would really appreciate if someone could help me to answer all these questions. Thanks in advance! Lol you saved me all the trouble of having to type up a rant about how I don't understand and asking the same exact questions. :P Mary said: If I went back to that time, it's possible that a future like that could have happened. If I hadn't met you that day, the world might have turned out to be a dull place.inary and uneventful... That one day I rubbed my red eyes... Even that one summer day that was so dazzling... I'm sure that _ will still remember them tomorrow. This quote is straight from Crying Prologue on the Mekaku City Days album, track 12. The end part, "we'll still remember" is a continuation as Mary never finished her sentence. It was never addressed to a specific person. |
Ari-OkojoJul 1, 2014 5:23 PM
gilayans said: PS: THEY REALLY NEED TO REMAKE THIS WITH MORE EPISODES KAGEPRO HAS POTENTIAL. Well, at least they've let us see a great show with such a huge plot compressed into a 1 cour show, it could've do better with 20+ episodes. Really. Agreed, I think we all need a remake, I didn't like the animation that much but I still loved the anime (still prefer the manga but...). 9/10 because I love Kagerou Project. |
| ending was pretty good!! now its over T-T |
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| I'm still laughing at the people saying you need to see the music videos or read the novels to understand this, I didn't and this was shit easy to understand. You guys who want the everybody dies ending to be the true ending are cute too, because edgy ending instantly makes this better apparently. All in all this was fun to watch, I think it was worth it alone to see how mad you guys are over a "shitty, rushed adaption." |
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| LOL, so Ene can switch between her real body and her virtual one/control things that realy on technology etc. So Hibiya's power is really good at peeping into the bathroom's of innocent girls XD. Hahahaha, Haruka's power really is awesome to be honest. Damn, that snake has taken Konoha's body and is beating everyone to a pulp with it. The good guys win, all's well that ends welll... Oooohhhh. Ayano looked really cute there. I was expecting much more out of this anime, but lets leave it at that. |
| "Let justice be done, though the heavens fall." |
| I still little confused about the ending TBH, i think it's a bit rushed, Hiyori appeared at the end but how did they save her ? anyways, i'm so glad that Ayano didn't really die, wouldn't mind for a second season <3 Overall score 8/10 |
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| The main thing that made me like this series are the songs. Ending 8, Lost Time Memory is really touching. |
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| And ... is over. Well ... this is definitely the most complicated anime I've ever watched! ... up to now. Nice teamwork in escaping those scientists (or whatever they were). Ene was amazing as always :)) ... but I think I like her more in the digital form. Badass Shintaro saves the day. Ayano is back and alive! :D ... and she is totally gorgeous in the last scene. Happy ending. What I've understood after a few explanations (ok ... maybe more than a few) combined with what I've understood by myself, is: - The Snake of Clearing Eyes (the bad one) wanted to complete Kenjirou's wish with any costs. - For that he needs to gather all the snakes (Mekakushi Dan) and unite them with the queen snake (Marry). - ... he is also a maniac that enjoys seeing the others suffer >:( ... - Shintaro (after his Reading Steiner got activated :D) killed himself and went to the Heat Haze to take Ayano. - Apparently, since they both have snakes, they can leave the Haze. - After they left the Haze, Ayano used her power to make Marry realise that repeating everything is wrong and Shintaro used his power to remind Marry of the previous timelines. - Marry ... probably ... combined the real world with the Haze. - Therefore, Kenjirou unites with his wife (and the wish remains unused). - The Snake of Clearing Eyes have no purpose to exist so he demands the wish. - Haruka trolls him by taking his wish. :D - The Snake of Clearing Eyes disappear. - Now that he is gone, Marry creates another world where they can all live together. - In the end, Shintaro misses his opportunity to tell Ayano how he feels ... damn it Shintaro! :D Overall I enjoyed it. It would've been better if it was longer (~20 episodes) so things could've been explained better. The OST was amazing! Maybe I will start the manga. It is not perfect but since I am totally subjective I will rate it 10/10. :P (Excuse me if there are any mistakes in my english. I'm not a native speaker.) |
Hibiki07Sep 13, 2014 3:03 AM
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| People who complain about the budget shouldn't be looking at SHAFT, but whoever footed the bill for the anime, which are probably Aniplex and 1st PLACE. Of course, SHAFT was also busy with Nisekoi when MA started, so I think it's impressive they made it look this good with the limitations they had. And even though I still don't fully understand everything that went on, I still managed to catch most of it and enjoy the anime for what it is. Oh, and I haven't seen the MVs or read any of the other things that are connected to this. |
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| I think people are being a bit harsh on the animation in this episode, it was fine IMO I don't know the source material so there's some things I don't really get, guess I'll go read the manga or something Leaving out an explanation for how Ene returned to her own body was pretty dissapointing and confusing though.... |
| As someone who hasnt viewed the source material, there are a lot of questions to be asked about the anime as I see other people doing. I however like an anime that leaves me wanting a little more when a sequel or prequel is available. Being that this is only a part of the Kagerou Project, it makes me want to know more about it. There were some episodes where the story really started to click and those were great. I still have "Fuck you, cat" as my screen saver for some reason. //edit// Regardless this needed more episodes because other anime that had this kind of huge storyline compressed into a few episodes made up for it by a second season or series of OVAs/ONAs |
resinweberJul 3, 2014 2:03 PM
| EAT SH!T AND LIVE |
| Well i just thought it ended pretty awesomely... way better than black bullet. Good series. The plot twists were amazing. |
| "No one knows what the future holds. That's why its potential is infinite.” - Okabe Rintarou "El Psy Congroo." Kirino Kyousake Picture  |
| Shaft made the story more confusing lol. It had a great start but I got bored halfway. 6/10 Raniero said:  Ayano looks so cute without her scarf. Dat Ayano was perfect though. |
| I would have liked a cover of Outer Science, or have the song quietly play when Kuroha appeared lol *muffled "Outer Science" in the background* |
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| everybody saying "this doesn't make sense if you don't know the base material"... guys that's totally not true. there are two or three things that are unexplained but that's a problem of every anime nowadays and not of this particular one. having this said => does someone mind explaining what exactly happened at the end? >.> did they all lose their abilities and Marry now has them all? And what exactly happened to Ayanos father? The snake left his body and then he just died? But then the rest should be dead too(because the same happened to them), right? It's also more like clarifying and less "not understanding what happened". The rest (even if you don't believe me) was pretty clear if you were paying attention during watching and putting the picture together. While knowing the source might make it easier it's not really needed to understand things. |
NanashiJul 4, 2014 2:23 AM
Kadouzeki said: Wait. So what happened to Hiyori? A theory is going on around the fandom that.. Since Kenjirou is with his wife now inside the heat haze daze, the Snake (aka Kuroha) looses his purpose because the wish he's supposed to grant is actually already granted. The Snake asks for more wishes to grant. Haruka buts in and points out that his other self, which is Konoha, had one last wish. And that is to save Hiyori. The Snake is forced to grant the wish. So basically, Kenjirou -> Kuroha -> Hiyori That's how the 'Snake of Clearing Eyes' switched hosts. On the other hand, since Konoha's snake (Snake of Awakening Eyes) lost its host, which is Konoha, the snakes is transferred to Haruka :) In the end, Kenjirou is in the heat haze daze with his wife. Hiyori gets the Snake of Clearing Eyes. Haruka gets the Snake of Awakening Eyes. |
| Some things didn't even made any sense. Like how Konoha managed to return but Hiyori didn't. |
| I want to like this show so much ... but after the rushed ending i felt robbed of my expectations >_< 7/10 it had so much potential to be epic |
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| I wasn't "wow'd" by the end. It was still good though and brings a fitting conclusion to the series. |
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| Okay my head is literally screaming of confusion from this. Apparently I was supposed to read the novels before watching this but I didn't know that until a few minutes after I completed this which was about ten minutes ago. My main question is: what happened to konoha. Did he die because of the snake or what? Because I didn't see him in the closing scene where everyone was outside. I just can't really seem to wrap my head around most of what happened. |
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