Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Episode 8 Discussion

alcrowry said:
As expected, the pace of this episode dropped from the previous episode.
I wonder if they're going to explain the events in 9SC before the competition starts, or would they just show it?

Loved the animation for Mirage Bat, now I can't wait for the Ice Pillar Break.

They really kept it simple here with the explanations. I was worried that the explanation about the Flying Magic would drag on (since it's certainly did in the LN), but they did cut the part in explaining how the Flying Magic that Tatsuya invented actually works.

Hello there, Mikihiko! It's about time! Great to see Major Kazama there as well, actually I can't get used to "Special Officer" here XD
Isori, Kanon, Akemi are there. We're all good XD

Takuan_Soho said:
Yes but:


BTW there is no spoiler, just a rant :-)

JoksPacifist said:
When does Tatsuya cures cancer ?

Whilist, I still do enjoy the complex explanation and terms.

stealthdasher said:
If anyone wants to see Takuan do the complete opposite of what he does in the Mahouka forums, please care to visit the No Game No Life forums. The posts are equally enjoyable to read.

millie10468 said:
It continuously amazes me how one episode can be interesting to one person and completely revolting to another...

Takuan_Soho said:
Yes but:


BTW there is no spoiler, just a rant :-)

Takuan_Soho said:
What do I do here? What do I do there? I actually see it as the same thing, but whatever as long as I am enjoyable!

stealthdasher said:
Take a wild guess.

I for one find your activity on both forums very amusing.

Amon-Raw said:
Lmao facts

darkreaperix said:
If anyone wants to see Takuan do the complete opposite of what he does in the Mahouka forums, please care to visit the No Game No Life forums. The posts are equally enjoyable to read.

Takuan_Soho said:
Wow another fan who says the exact same thing. I am collecting them as fast as schoolgirls accreting to the local idol. Cool, never thought I could have my own fan club!!! Give me your email and I will send you an autograph as well!!!

JoksPacifist said:
When does Tatsuya cures cancer ?

Whilist, I still do enjoy the complex explanation and terms.

darkreaperix said:
ah no,I made a mistake quoting that post,and just gave up fixing it and just deleted my post :)

I think people are saying it's boring for the sake of saying boring, but I guess it's just opinions.

Takuan_Soho said:
You are a fan. Cool. I'll send you an autograph. Always nice to meet a fan.

RexZShadow said:
Love the fact that just coz he finished it that day it means he finished it in one day like really people? Your like those people that look at other who gets better grades or does really well in something and just think they are just that good even enough when you don't see them they are practicing like crazy.

RexZShadow said:
Love the fact that just coz he finished it that day it means he finished it in one day like really people? Your like those people that look at other who gets better grades or does really well in something and just think they are just that good even enough when you don't see them they are practicing like crazy.

wrenchbread said:


The anime didn't show (notice the trend here?) that he's been working on it for a while. The impression we get is that there is a very difficult problem that top researchers couldn't figure out a solution to, but Tatsuya solves it by the end of the day. The way it is presented is as if Tatsuya did it in response to that whole talk.

dragonlight said:
That bastards so damn cocky just sitting down in the air. I love it :)

stealthdasher said:
Though I was a bigger fan of Solvite. I dearly miss him.

millie10468 said:
Would it have hurt for them to have Miyuki say, "After so-and-so months/years, you've finally done it, Onii-sama, blah blah" and have her continue with her regularly scheduled worship? At least no one would have complained that it took him only one day to solve the puzzle.

RexZShadow said:
The novel does say it, like Miyuki goes is that flight magic? and congraes him on finally figure it out and stuff like that. I can't believe they didn't even invclude that part.

Still I think its pretty common sense to imply its something he been working on.

Takuan_Soho said:


Get out more, he is still around.....



One would think that it would have killed the writer of the adaptation to do this. This has, and I now see, will continue to be my chief complaint. Madhouse really doesn't care, they are doing the bare minimum to covert the novels to a series. This is why I don't blame the novel writer, but the adaptation. Even IF the novel has all these faults, it is the job of the adapters to make it interesting for first time viewers. Whoever MH got for this series has failed completely.

For a counter example Aoki Hagane. They knew they had only 12 episodes to work worth, so while they started with the manga the adapter developed their own story so they could complete it in 12 episodes. Sure some of the fans were disappointed, but at least it told a story, which in turn made the animation successful. This I see as being a total failure.

LustfulSin said:


Well, if we are looking at it from the anime viewers perspective's they see tatsuya as the most intelligent person in all of mahouka so I couldn't blame them for thinking that he accomplished it within a day. But that being said it's 80% of the directors fault for adapting this series the way he's adapting it right now because if he at least just added one small word where miyuki emphasizes "You've finally solved it onii-sama, congratulations" then people wouldn't get the idea that he finished solving one of the three puzzles of the mahouka world in a day.

I think that the production company should work with the author of the novel so that they can get a proper idea of how to adapt it accordingly and what doesn't need to said and what does need to be said, because right now this series that holds a lot of potential is being limited do to certain stuff getting cut out (i.e,tatsuya's monologues), if they can adapt it better in the upcoming episodes then I'm sure it'll turn out great.

RexZShadow said:

Hmmm if its a one word difference is that translator or sub issue? Anyone here knows japan that understand could like tell us or something? Coz if just one word could be the subber sub it differently.

RexZShadow said:


Hmmm if its a one word difference is that translator or sub issue? Anyone here knows japan that understand could like tell us or something? Coz if just one word could be the subber sub it differently.

Tengoku_no_hakai said:
I think it's safe to assume that the genius Taurus Silver is Tatsuya :)

AquaWateria said:
This is definitely not a total failure, your blowing it out of proportions like seriously. A total failure would be Mahou Sensou so yeah your exaggerating a bit.

Takuan_Soho said:


You can't compare this series and Mahou Sensou like that. Granted other series may have been worse this season, but those series did not have the expectations this series had: after all the novels had sold around 200K per volume BEFORE the animation. The goal of the animation was to increase sales and to sell a ton of BDs.

If you look at the Light Novel sales, NGNL's animation has been a huge success. Just in the last 2 weeks the series as sold around 18K per volume (or roughly a 40% gain on what had been sold before), which is due solely because of the animation. Mahouka, has seen less that a 5K gain per volume. Considering that Mahouka had sold 200K before the animation, that is only a 2.5% gain. So both relatively and absolutely, this has to be considered a failure.

So all that is left is the BD sales. According to the BD ranking thread, Mahouka has dropped since the series debuted, dropped so far indeed that now NGNL is projected to sell more than Mahouka. Based solely on the sales going into production that can only be viewed as a failure for the Mahouka.

Now, please allow me to stress that I am not saying that NGNL's novels are better than Mahouka, I have not read either, but just looking at the reception of the animations, it is very clear that NGNL's adaption has been a relative success to date and Mahouka'a adaptation has been a failure. Now we are only 2/3rds through the season, so there is plenty of chance for Mahouka to recover (since it is two cour), but given the performance to date, I can't see how you can call the adaption anything but a failure.

This series should have been projected to be in the 20-30K range given the popularity of the Light Novels, I am sure that the production team was counting on something similar. Just to give a comparison, SAO averaged 40K+ with similar per-production volume sales, so if Mahouka does end up south of 10K, this would be a massive failure, though of course for nearly every other animation this would be considered a smashing success. But success is relative.

As for why it has been a failure, I don't blame the "too many explanations." I think a show can have plenty of exposition and still be entertaining. Where I blame this show is that it has done nothing to make any of the characters interesting. While Leo and Erika are slowly starting to become distinct, this show has done a horrific job at making Tatsuya or Miyuki interesting. Now both could be interesting in the novels, and based on what I have heard they probably are, but based solely on what has been shown neither is worth spit. That is the adapters fault. It is there job to make the animation interesting, even if they have to change the source to do so.