Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn, Question about Episode 7 SPOILER ALERT

Arcling said:
From what I know, novels are pretty much stand-alone. Usually, only anime works are considered canon and some side-stories, only if they do not retcon anything. For example, in the first novel retelling the events of One Year War, Amuro died during that war. But then came the two different novels telling the events of Char's Counterattack where he was still alive, just like in anime, and died in UC 93. In both versions Amuro and Char died and Unicorn confirms it being true in anime as well.

Razuhiko said:
im no gundam expert but in novel, they are confirmed KIA, and this episode confirmed their deaths. and yes, amuro is one of the spirits with frontal. it was lalah, amuro, and spirit of frontal which is char. kinda disappointed in the fight though, i was expecting more combat, but very good closure nonetheless

j0x said:

and from the light novels they say that Banagher is dead but they change that on the anime version

Champloo_Remix said:


Not neccessarily true from what I understood and read up on (regarding FF).

FF is presumably a Cyber Newtype created by Neo Zeon in frantic desperation to hold itself together after Char's actions in CCA. They needed a special person to replace the one they lost. Someone who could lead and rally Neo Zeon in a way only the son of Zeon Deikun did/can. So who better than Char reincarnate? So with that it was like Char never left.

FF according to what I've read on (and maybe I missed it when I watched) was created using the surviving psychoframe from Char's cockpit in CCA (which of course resonated with Char's consciousness and held part of his collective consciousness/will) to instill a part of Char's consciousness/memories to some capacity (that had been angered/corrupted in seeing that the events of CCA changed nothing for humanity) in FF to bring about what we all see in Unicorn.

Hence why in Over the Rainbow you get a very different sense from FF compared to Char. You start to see some truer colors come out. Char wasn't evil at heart. He was willing to be the bad guy/the sacrificial lamb that humanity needed to grow out of senseless war. He wanted to save the entire human race from a dark history (lol) and a vicious cycle. He wasn't a madman or a fanatic but he was WILLING to be painted that way for the sake of humanity. He KNOWS his actions are extreme and KNOWS they're immoral but in a world of gray (not black and white) he knows that while passivity may be the right moral decision the reality of it is that it will only further string along humanity's dark history (did it again LOL). Lalah even mentions in CCA that Char is pure of heart to which Amuro could not understand. Hence why CCA isn't necessarily a matter of "who's right or who's wrong". It's a very gray affair. It does make you question on a philosophical level "who's right and who's wrong?". Because if you've seen 00 and have seen it's ending through the Trailblazer film you kind of get the sense that THAT was the future that Char's ideals and rebellion could have yielded which in the way 00 painted it out to be...was quite utopian. Meanwhile, in Universal Century Amuro quashed that "could have been" and in Unicorn you see that nothing changed (albeit by the end of Unicorn things did in its own way). So who's ideals REALLY yielded/would have yielded a better and happier humanity in the long run in CCA? That's food for thought.

FF comes off differently. Especially in ep 7 you get the sense that part of him is just straight up resentful towards Earth and Earthnoids as if they wronged him (which in a sense they did considering Char and Amuro's actions in CCA SHOULD have opened peoples' eyes but wound up being ignored/changing nothing). Part of him feels resentful towards Earthnoids for letting Char and Amuro die in vain which is part of his motivation for wanting to ostracize Earthnoids with the Side-Co Prosperity Sphere. It'd appeal to all spacenoids but force those on Earth to suffer a brutal extinction considering Earth at this point can't self-sustain without aid from the colonies.


But more to TS' point. Amuro and Char have always been listed as MIA but I think Unicorn confirms that Amuro and Char died in their sacrifice. Those 3 spirits were absolutely Amuro, Char (not FF but Char himself), and Lalah.