The Flowers of Evil
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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- That was quite a disappointing yet satisfying end. I don't really see a reason to an epilogue but the final chapter, showing us why Nakamura was like that, made it easier for us to understand her and the things she did in the beginning of the story. Really great manga with a thrilling story. Easily one of the better mangas of modern day. 8/10 |
| i was confused with the ending >.< she meets him and says wut are you doing? |
| I might be missing something but...isn't chap 57 the last one? Cause there's already a topic for it lol |
kaname92 said: I might be missing something but...isn't chap 57 the last one? Cause there's already a topic for it lol This. The last chapter (as far as I'm aware) was 57. |
| Oshimi Shuuzou strikes again. |
| I'm disappointed with the ending in general. For me, its feels like Kasuga just ended up being 'normal', which I think is not fitting for the story imo. I felt kind of sad for Nakumura as well |
cajowcjawmcmiaowMay 20, 2014 7:09 AM
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pauperunit said: I'm disappointed with the ending in general. For me, its feels like Kasuga just ended up being 'normal', which I think is not fitting for the story imo. I felt kind of sad for Nakumura as well Kind of agree. I think the first "half", basically until the failed suicide scene is where the manga shined the most, at least for my kinda twisted preferences. |
xTech1 said: SimmianPrime said: kaname92 said: I might be missing something but...isn't chap 57 the last one? Cause there's already a topic for it lol This. The last chapter (as far as I'm aware) was 57. 57 is the last chapter but there was an extra chapter at the end of volume 3 that you can probably find labeled as 17.5 somewhere. Still doesn't explain why there's a chapter 58 thread, or why MAL has 58 chapters listed. |
xTech1 said: SimmianPrime said: xTech1 said: SimmianPrime said: kaname92 said: I might be missing something but...isn't chap 57 the last one? Cause there's already a topic for it lol This. The last chapter (as far as I'm aware) was 57. 57 is the last chapter but there was an extra chapter at the end of volume 3 that you can probably find labeled as 17.5 somewhere. Still doesn't explain why there's a chapter 58 thread, or why MAL has 58 chapters listed. I thought it explained it fine but let me try again. Seeing as this extra chapter exists it means there are in fact 58 chapters(57 + 1 extra) and so MAL has it listed correctly. Additionally, some people(scan teams) may have labeled 17.5(the extra) as 18 which would mean that the last chapter would have been labeled 58. So wanting to discuss the final chapter someone made a thread based on how the chapter they read was numbered. That's one possibility at least. Otherwise maybe someone just labeled the thread based on the MAL chapter count which as I said earlier is technically right. The scan group that did the extra labeled it as extra 17.5 and it is listed as such on Batoto and even in the official volume. If that chapter deserved it's own thread on here then it should be "chapter 17.5 discussion". The extra chapter is not a chapter, it's an extra. If it was a chapter then it wouldn't be called an extra. Next I suppose omakes will be getting proper chapter number status on here. There are 57 chapters and one extra. |
| felt somewhat ripped off by the second arc of the manga - waited so long for nakamura to reappear, and when she finally did, it was a huge anti-climax - kind of makes me wonder if shuuzou-san meant for it to end after the first arc, but then the manga became much more popular than he expected, and then was talked into continuing it - reminds me of how i felt about the ending of sakamichi no apollon or another (wished this would have somehow ended more psychotically or interestingly), but then i'm a twisted bastard who loves the dark stuff - happy endings never feel very satisfying......now i can catch up with all the other shuuzou works i'm currently reading - even though i feel like i got ripped off a bit, i enjoyed the hell out of the ride - 9 o' 10 (would have been an automatic 10 with a better ending)..... |
octal9May 22, 2014 1:26 AM
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Rizzles said: the man really loves to f@#k with our heads (part of what makes him great)..........Oshimi Shuuzou strikes again. |
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| Read this while listening to Explosions of the Sky's The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place. Fucking feels. While I was hoping for a depressing ending (I even cheered for the suicide), I'm okay with the happy ending. This was like a pocket version of Oyasumi Punpun. Me like. |
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| So this is it. We got to see nakamura-san's perspective at last. Overall I enjoyed it immensely. 9/10 |
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| I honestly don't know if I hould give this a 5 or a 8-9. Buy hey, at least it didn't leave me indifferent. I didn't really like the ending. Another thing that I hated was how the author sometimes portrayed human psyche. Like, it wasn't realistic at all and it annoyed the fuck out of me. I hated Takao before the timeskip. Being so obsessed and masochist towards Nakamura really threw me off. One thing I did like tho was the manga's originality. I was pretty amazed at some of the events that occured. The trashing of the classroom for instance is one of the most epic moments I've seen in all anime/manga. Another good thing is that the plot was really unpredictable, which is a huge plus for me. All in all, it was quite the... interesting read lol. I finished it in like a couple of days. Was really a page-turner for me. I often found myself pretty frustrated with Takao's retarded decisions but overall I don't regret at all reading this manga. Oh, btw, a new manga by that author is being released monthly. It's called Happiness and imo it's pretty fucking dope. The art is really trippy and the plot is solid thus far. Check it out if you wanna know more about that author's works. (; |
| Je trempe mes cookies dans tes larmes. |
| I think this is the most suitable ending. I felt a bit bored with the second part of this manga as well, when Takao moved to another city but if we think of it, this is how life is. I mean, Takao was in a complicated puberty and he had to move with his family and start again in another high school, and so on... but he have never forgotten all he lived in his past, but Takao aged and faced the past. Nakamura and Saeki, both lived their lifes as well. Surely both lived in the best possible way. At the end, it's not such a bad ending. |
| I ended up staying up late last night finishing Aku no Hana. Shuzo Oshimi really knows how to write a page turner. This story was more of a psychological deconstruction than a traditional narrative, meaning that it prioritized ideas over characterization and realism. I interpreted the story as a nightmare—or a fantasy depending on your sexual proclivities—about feeling imprisoned in normality, and desperately wanting to escape by any means necessary. I really enjoyed it, and I'm glad that it ended how it did. If Kasuga hadn't realized the need to reconcile his past sins, and be content with the side he was on, he would've just ended up dead. |
| This manga gave some feels, but overall, it wasn't quite good at all. It had an okay plot and the final chapters were a bit of quick writing and pushing in emotional content just because. Have I learned or understood anything from this manga? Hell no. Only thing I can appreciate the manga for is teaching me that some people are more messed up than we are. That's it. 5/10. |
 Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate. I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death. |
| It hurts.... It really hurts.... Since i started to read masterpieces from Shuuzou Oshimi, that pain when i finished reading his manga is really big. Hard to describe it... I just found that manga has a magic to catch reader much more intensively in to deep of story then anime. With combination of absolutely amazing art-work by sensei together that combination is like made a diamond. But back to Aku no Hana, all the time i was hoping that, Takao Kasuga will get a love confession from Sawa Nakamura, still was waiting for it till the very end, unfortunately it hasn't been done... From whole manga the character of Aya Tokiwa for me was like violently pushed in character and she really didn't deserve to end up with Takao-kun. And if not Sawa, then Nanako Saeki deserved to end up with him. No matter what. But once it has been said, we have to accept it. Love this manga. Must confess, i was reading it for 3 days - i was forced to slow down, because i knew if i finish it earlier will be so down... It didn't help at all. At work, at home... Morning, Noon, Afternoon - all the time i was thinking about it, characters and art. Couldn't be helped, but i need to propably take a break from reading manga. Don't wanna be disappointed from other ones, or be hyped from other ones. Still have in plan read less popular works from Shuuzou-sensei, but right now... Well just need a catch a breath |
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MaxVdub said: so basically she has the main character's affliction from saya no uta; kasuga was her saya Allynia said: I didn't really get what was happening. Was that what she saw for real, like she had some kind of schizophrenic disease or were the flies symbolic? cajowcjawmcmiaow said: I'm disappointed with the ending in general. For me, its feels like Kasuga just ended up being 'normal', which I think is not fitting for the story imo. I felt kind of sad for Nakumura as well What the above trio said, pretty much. You'd think a final chapter from Nakamura's PoV would shed some light on her thought process. Instead, she just did her 'shitbug' thing a few times as the artist depicted everyone around her as... shitbugs. Impossible to know if that's how she saw people, or that was just artistic indulgence. She could have an actual mental disorder or fit into Saya no Uta. WHO KNOWS. A disappointing end but I still enjoyed reading the series more than most others combined. The author is one of the most talented in the manga field; able to show rather than tell and to unnerve with his art; even when dealing with teen angst/lust. I just wish Kasuga had either changed via Nakamura and Saeki directly, or if Nakamura just made more sense, period. |
| i dont's understand at all |
| Well this has been a roller coaster of emotions. In the end, Saeki became an asshole to Kasuga lmao; totally glad that he didn't end up with her. Glad that Ai has no anger for Kasuga anymore and Sawa has been living a good life and also for Kasuga |
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| not the ending I was expecting, but still satisfied. |
| “Life is a constant process of dying.” |
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