Praland said: DerpHole said: Thebigofan said: people should not be discriminated against. What about pedophiles? Are you putting homosexuality and pedophilia in the same level? Biologically speaking its probably the same thing, the difference is one of consent, and that is what makes pedophilism worse. But from a biological standpoint both are anormal as both dont serve the purpose of reproduction. |
baki502 said: Praland said: DerpHole said: Thebigofan said: people should not be discriminated against. What about pedophiles? Are you putting homosexuality and pedophilia in the same level? Biologically speaking its probably the same thing, the difference is one of consent, and that is what makes pedophilism worse. But from a biological standpoint both are anormal as both dont serve the purpose of reproduction. Pedophilism doesn't serve the purpose of reproduction? Sure it does. it would be too graphic to describe it tho |
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baki502 said: Biologically speaking its probably the same thing, the difference is one of consent, and that is what makes pedophilism worse. But from a biological standpoint both are anormal as both dont serve the purpose of reproduction. IIRC, I believe the youngest pregnancy that's ever occurred did so in a 9 year old girl.. |
TyrelMay 11, 2014 10:03 PM
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Fiction-S said: Samurai were indeed, super gayProchy said: Far from the truth.I thought that Japanese were one of the more tolerant people towards gays, since they have all those yaoi and yuri manga/anime. Kidding. Homosexual samurais were quite common back in the day. But Japan still has a lot of homophobia |
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Bicurious_Keys said: Its not a normal natural instinct tough. The normal animalistic instinct would be to go for well developed women as they ensure a high percentage of fertilization AND a healthy birth. So any attraction to girls under the age of 14/15 (depending on the level of maturity) is unnormal. Mod Edit: Added spoilers for quote tower |
TyrelMay 11, 2014 10:04 PM
DerpHole said: baki502 said: Biologically speaking its probably the same thing, the difference is one of consent, and that is what makes pedophilism worse. But from a biological standpoint both are anormal as both dont serve the purpose of reproduction. IIRC, I believe the youngest pregnancy that's ever occurred did so in a 9 year old girl. I'm guessing it wasn't a successful birth. |
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Malaria said: DerpHole said: baki502 said: Biologically speaking its probably the same thing, the difference is one of consent, and that is what makes pedophilism worse. But from a biological standpoint both are anormal as both dont serve the purpose of reproduction. IIRC, I believe the youngest pregnancy that's ever occurred did so in a 9 year old girl. I'm guessing it wasn't a successful birth. The youngest was actually 5 and was from rape. |
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baki502 said: Its not a normal natural instinct tough. The normal animalistic instinct would be to go for well developed women as they ensure a high percentage of fertilization AND a healthy birth. So any attraction to girls under the age of 14/15 (depending on the level of maturity) is unnormal. actually most girls of that age and under were often married off by that point, its only in the last couple hundred years where that it has been looked down upon. girls reproducing at the age of of 13 - 14 has been going on for the majority of human history. |
Reverb_Shock said: If you literally don't care, than that is the same level as being against. Because you don't feel that there is any reason to change the current situation. In fact, it's probably worse.Red_Keys said: Or they really just don't care. As people have said, it has nothing to do with them. Some people's whole argument for gay marriage is that it doesn't affect them in any way which means we don't need to be opposed to it, so there's no need for them to care.Why wouldn't you be? I don't get the people saying "neither for or against it".. what the fuck does that mean? I assume that means you're against it, because you obviously feel no sense of urgency or discontent with the way things are now. Or maybe you want to support it, but you just want to appear straight to everybody, so saying "I don't care" just kind of puts you in a "safe zone" where you can't be accused of being a bigot or a fag yourself. Well quit pussying out. Nobody cares about how straight you want everybody to think you are I couldn't care less about gay issues. If they get their marriage, cool. If they don't, I don't care. And if you legitimately didn't care, at all, then you wouldn't reply to this thread. There are threads that I don't give a shit about, for example: Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou episode 6 discussion. Front page. I don't care about that show. So guess what I did. The fact that you felt the need to state something proves that you don't "not care". You care about you having your opinion on the matter heard. |
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Malaria said: DerpHole said: baki502 said: Biologically speaking its probably the same thing, the difference is one of consent, and that is what makes pedophilism worse. But from a biological standpoint both are anormal as both dont serve the purpose of reproduction. IIRC, I believe the youngest pregnancy that's ever occurred did so in a 9 year old girl. I'm guessing it wasn't a successful birth. nvm, just found this list on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers Seems like a 5 year old gave birth and it survived. Freaky. |
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Red_Keys said: And if you legitimately didn't care, at all, then you wouldn't reply to this thread. There are threads that I don't give a shit about, for example: Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou episode 6 discussion. Front page. I don't care about that show. So guess what I did. The fact that you felt the need to state something proves that you don't "not care". You care about you having your opinion on the matter heard. Or we just like to wast some time? Dont tell me everything you do in your life is meaningful and has a deeper purpose. Most of us are probably just here to waste some time and socialize and dont particularly care too much about the topics at hand. And I still dont get whats so hard about understanding that some dont give a shit? Yes its not the best attitude to have since they are basically saying they dont care about other people in general, but it doesnt mean they are against it. That is such a bullshit argument. They just dont care what happens, they are fine with either outcome as it doesnt concern them. Mod Edit: Modified quote tower; please spoiler or remove old quotes. |
MellowJelloMay 12, 2014 12:33 AM
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| Labeling it as a "right" gives some government the power to take it away, so maybe it might be more fruitful to consider it as some intrinsic, fundamental "right" that everyone should have. So then your opinion on the issue is meaningless. It's like asking what is your opinion on people's right to life? |
in said: Labeling it as a "right" gives some government the power to take it away, so maybe it might be more fruitful to consider it as some intrinsic, fundamental "right" that everyone should have. So then your opinion on the issue is meaningless. It's like asking what is your opinion on people's right to life? Except that being able to marry isnt a human right. |
Red_Keys said: So in your opinion it'sWhy wouldn't you be? I don't get the people saying "neither for or against it".. what the fuck does that mean? I assume that means you're against it, because you obviously feel no sense of urgency or discontent with the way things are now. Or maybe you want to support it, but you just want to appear straight to everybody, so saying "I don't care" just kind of puts you in a "safe zone" where you can't be accused of being a bigot or a fag yourself. Well quit pussying out. Nobody cares about how straight you want everybody to think you are "If you're not with me, you're against me." That's a little silly, don't you think? If gays are allowed to marry, then hooray, if not then well that sucks. It's not the best attitude but it's valid. Gay marriage has no affect on my life. Actually, I live in Canada so it's already legalized. Other countries gay marriage laws have no bearing on my life, therefore I don't care. |
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kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
MiniSiets said: Let the gays get married so we can move on to the 21st century already. Wed have to abolish marriage altogether to move to the 21st century already. That system is just so outdated and stupid. |
| Gays can get married in a lot of countries (including my own). OT: I support human rights. Which is what gay people happen to fall under. |
baki502 said: Then you just literally admitted to shitposting and your comments can legitimately be classified as spam.Or we just like to wast some time? Dont tell me everything you do in your life is meaningful and has a deeper purpose. Most of us are probably just here to waste some time and socialize and dont particularly care too much about the topics at hand. Thank you for deliberately making this community a worse place. baki502 said: I never said it's impossible for people to not care. I said that they posted in this thread, so them "not caring" is a farce.And I still dont get whats so hard about understanding that some dont give a shit? Yes its not the best attitude to have since they are basically saying they dont care about other people in general, but it doesnt mean they are against it. That is such a bullshit argument. They just dont care what happens, they are fine with either outcome as it doesnt concern them. I also never said that not caring is the same as being against it, I said it's just as bad. If you want to put words into my mouth, at least make it funny or something. Heredity said: That's not the same thing at all. I didn't say that I didn't care, I said that I wanted none erased. It's the difference between saying "I don't care where we eat out tonight" and saying "I don't want to eat out tonight".oops. |
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baki502 said: So don't partake in it... Why would you care what other people do with their lives? If you are against marriage, then don't get married and shut up about it.MiniSiets said: Let the gays get married so we can move on to the 21st century already. Wed have to abolish marriage altogether to move to the 21st century already. That system is just so outdated and stupid. |
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Kimono_Kitsune said: Gays can get married in a lot of countries (including my own). OT: I support human rights. Which is what gay people happen to fall under. Joke topics aside legalized homosexuality on the global scale is the exception, not the norm. |
UnoPuntoCinco said: Not caring about what you eat is as bad as not eating. Why people should care about what we eat or what we don't eat? |
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Praland said: UnoPuntoCinco said: Not caring about what you eat is as bad as not eating. Why people should care about what we eat or what we don't eat? Well, there are legit reasons... |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
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Link_of_Hyrule said: baki502 said: So don't partake in it... Why would you care what other people do with their lives? If you are against marriage, then don't get married and shut up about it.MiniSiets said: Let the gays get married so we can move on to the 21st century already. Wed have to abolish marriage altogether to move to the 21st century already. That system is just so outdated and stupid. I do not care what people do in private but I do care about the legal stuff and what my money is being spent on, or in this case whose money is not being asked. I find it ridiculous that married couples get a taxes bonus when theire living expenses go down, since sharing an apartment saves you a buttload of money. That is tax money the country could get instead of asking more from single people. I think tax bonuses should not occur until a child is born there is not reason before that. Red_Keys said: baki502 said: Then you just literally admitted to shitposting and your comments can legitimately be classified as spam.Or we just like to wast some time? Dont tell me everything you do in your life is meaningful and has a deeper purpose. Most of us are probably just here to waste some time and socialize and dont particularly care too much about the topics at hand. Thank you for deliberately making this community a worse place. I prefer the term funposting. Its not like our discussions here are going to change anything at all. My motivation for coming here is to have some fun and waste some time, if you are incapable of having fun and think this forum is all srz bsnz, well not my problem. |
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baki502 said: Then the thing you should be arguing against is the tax break on marriage in your country; not people's right to get married in the first place Mod Edit: Modified quote tower; please spoiler or remove old quotes. |
MellowJelloMay 12, 2014 12:33 AM
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Link_of_Hyrule said: Well that was one of the things. Others would be that people are expecting you to be married at some point in life otherwise your kinda looked down upon, and also the fact that trough marriage comes dicorce and other legal issues that again costs the state alot of money that has to be raised from the citizens, aka me. Basically marriage costs the state money, money from the tax payers, money that could be used way better, instead of wasting it on pointless custom. Mod Edit: Added spoilers for quote towers |
TyrelMay 11, 2014 10:06 PM
RedArmyShogun said: Kimono_Kitsune said: Gays can get married in a lot of countries (including my own). OT: I support human rights. Which is what gay people happen to fall under. Joke topics aside, legalized homosexuality on the global scale is the exception, not the norm. Yes, but it's still legal in a lot of countries: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/World_marriage-equality_laws.svg Legends: http://s16.postimg.org/kq94inwwl/screenshot_117.png Moving to another country just to get married looks just like a big hassle though. |
baki502 said: I assume that the point of the tax break is to keep married couples with children together to improve the overall stability and mental health of your nation's youth; hardly a waste of money if you ask me...Well that was one of the things. Others would be that people are expecting you to be married at some point in life otherwise your kinda looked down upon, and also the fact that trough marriage comes dicorce and other legal issues that again costs the state alot of money that has to be raised from the citizens, aka me. Basically marriage costs the state money, money from the tax payers, money that could be used way better, instead of wasting it on pointless custom. Mod Edit: Added spoilers for quote towers |
TyrelMay 11, 2014 10:06 PM
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| I honestly don't care about sexual orientation as long as the person is happy. While I myself am heterosexual, I've got no problems with those of other orientations as they are just as human as the rest of us. |
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Kimono_Kitsune said: The US overall isn't, that was a snub by the federal government at the states. Many states outlaw it, but the Federal government reconizes it...for Federal Employees. But in all those Grey Areas its "No" "Lol go to jail." or "I'M GONNA KILL YAH!" Also moving to another country to marry isn't generally something looked on highly by most immigration officals no matter the country. Though of note France and Regions of Spain may be making it Illegal again soon. Mod Edit: Modified quote tower; please spoiler or remove old quotes. |
MellowJelloMay 12, 2014 12:34 AM
| Well, they're people, so I think they should have the same rights as people. Marriage is a little tricky if you want to get into a discussion of what marriage is, but in general my opinion is that gay people should be allowed to get married and enjoy the same dumb benefits as anyone else. I do however think that any religious institution should have the right to refuse to marry a gay couple if they somehow think it goes against their religion. |
| i do not support it but at the same time i do not see anything wrong with it. |
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| I do not support it, but then again I am against quite a lot in marriage which has pretty much lost its value in society. |
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| I don't really care. If two guys like each other and get married, good for them. If not, oh well. I'm not gonna judge people if they're gay or not, but I don't care either way anyways. |
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TyrelMay 11, 2014 10:15 PM
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| Definitely for as I am bisexual. And for the people saying "marriage should only be between a man and a woman" or "why do they want to get married" are forgetting the bonuses a married couple get and some people just want to get married, just like straight people do. |
| If only answering yes to this question would actually mean people are not homphobic anymore :( I'm all for it, though I personally don't see any value in the institution of marriage anyway, if we're only talking about that. |
AlcoholicideMay 11, 2014 10:40 PM
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| No I do not. Fortunately I don't have to deal with this anyway, where I live. |
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| Doesn't bother me in the least bit. Live and let live. |
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tsudecimo said: No I do not. Fortunately I don't have to deal with this anyway, where I live. Yeah it's so fortunate that innocent people are killed or imprisoned just so that you don't have to see two guys kiss. |
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Narmy said: tsudecimo said: No I do not. Fortunately I don't have to deal with this anyway, where I live. Yeah it's so fortunate that innocent people are killed or imprisoned just so that you don't have to see two guys kiss. They don't get killed, just imprisonment and punishment. It's not that hard to follow a law or try to not get caught. What I mean by fortunate, is that I don't have to deal with big controversies like Gay Marriage, or even remember the word ''gay'' unless I open these forums, which are so obsessed with gay threads for whatever reasons. |
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| let them get married but i prefer if marriage will be abolish altogether since its outdated in modern times where there are too much sexual distraction and economic problems |
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