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| So I am guessing it was Iona who beat Hitoe, looks like she's more evil than Aki-Lucky~ Aki-Lucky is so hateful that I like her o_o. |
| Damn getting the opposite of what you wished for.. that's mean! So if I wish for death, and I loose. That means I can't die! Hurray! Maybe... When Ruuko got physical I knew shit hit the fan (sorry for language), I couldn't image Ruuko being more physical than that. Now that I think about it, Ruuko actually kind of caused Hitoe to become like this since she one once against her. Hitoe's first lost was with Akira, who else am I missing? |
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| Good lord, I don't know if you guys are trolling or not but you aren't serious are you? Only deep/heartfelt inner wishes are granted, I don't think you can change your wish once your LRIG appears and you are selected you can't just become a Selector because you want to (atleast so far). It was stated there would be punishments or something if you lose on purpose. And people don't get how brutal living forever or not dying is, millions/billions of years will pass considering this is magic you will live this long humans will die and you're alone on earth or in space forever. |
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| This is what I was expecting. I am so happy that this got dark, and we have another season. YESH YES YE I honestly wanna see Tama just wipe the floor of Aki-Luckys LRIG PUT THAT GIRL IN HER PLACE. RUUKO SHOULD HAVE JUST PUNCHED AKI-LUCKY IN THE FACE. yes. and she should wear short shorts more often too. Would the twins wish cause her brother to hate her.... OR LET'S GET DARKER, twin brother dies. Hitome seems to have the possibility of regaining memories, and possibly getting her LRIG back? Who knows... I really hope Ruuko's wish isn't to like.. stop the game and such. Oh, a Ruuko losing it and going insane episode is welcome. |
| Things got darker in this episode which is good. Aki-Lucky is heartless. I hope Ruuko kills her |
ichii_1 said: Only deep/heartfelt inner wishes are granted, I don't think you can change your wish once your LRIG appears You can however start playing without having a wish. So now that Ruko knows the downsides, she could easily abuse the system. Aside from that, the only mention about deep inner wishes etc. was from Midoriko, and that was only regarding Hitoe's wish. It doesn't mean that all of them have to be that way. |
| I sorta saw Hitoe losing coming from a mile away, although never being able to make any friends ever again is a bit harsh (even though she still has fragments of her memories?) Surely getting a terrible punishment for losing three times is an assumption the characters would have already come to since they know that winning three times gives them whatever they desire. Still, I think the show is going in the right direction for utter despair. Yuzuki might be on her way to reversing her wish anyway now that Kazuki thinks she's pushing him away. There are some questions I have though - The scene with Midoriko disappearing shows the cards of other people who have lost. If this is the case, does that mean some selectors have already won? Can there be multiple Eternal Girls? From the first episode, we're told that there are supposed to be way more selectors than just the characters we're shown - it's inconceivable that not even one of them has won three times yet. In addition, since Ruuko claims that she has no wish, does that mean that nothing will happen if she loses? Maybe instead of having no wish, she'll be cursed to forever want everything, or something. |
| Wow thats a really harsh punishment for losing 3 times. I thought it was just losing memory as a selector but having it reversed is too much. Poor Hitoe. Still kinda blame Midoriko though. If you love her so much like you claim and even suggested her to throw you away then why couldnt you tell her why she should throw you away? |
Toradoche said: There are some questions I have though - The scene with Midoriko disappearing shows the cards of other people who have lost. If this is the case, does that mean some selectors have already won? Can there be multiple Eternal Girls? From the first episode, we're told that there are supposed to be way more selectors than just the characters we're shown - it's inconceivable that not even one of them has won three times yet. I'm quite sure the number of wins needed has never been stated. In fact, Akira was quite angry a while ago that her LRIG hadn't evolved after her many wins, and was reminded that it depended on the wish. |
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konatachan80 said: Considering this series is 24 episodes (2x12) it'll probably require more than a few wins. Wait, this is 24 episodes long? Good, that means they'll have to shake things up even more. luinthoron said: I'm quite sure the number of wins needed has never been stated. In fact, Akira was quite angry a while ago that her LRIG hadn't evolved after her many wins, and was reminded that it depended on the wish. How did I forget such an important detail...? It was just last episode too! Anyway, if this is the case, then presumably the LRIG has to evolve a certain number of times before the wish can be granted. Maybe it's the LRIG itself that grants the wish, then? This probably also means that the creature in Ruuko's dream back in episode 1 was a fully upgraded Tama... |
| *sighs* once again it tries too hard to get dark. It was so predictable. Wixoss, you'll never be Madoka. Never. |
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| Er, wait a second. http://i.imgur.com/dcz8RRc.png So winning three times only applies to Hitoe, then? |
Chokko said: *sighs* once again it tries too hard to get dark. It was so predictable. Wixoss, you'll never be Madoka. Never. Yeah, Wixoss is better than Madoka. These Madoka fan boys crowding these threads every week are awful. The two series are hardly alike. Just because both have cute girls and have dark elements doesn't mean you have to strawman to compare them constantly. Toradoche said: There are some questions I have though - The scene with Midoriko disappearing shows the cards of other people who have lost. If this is the case, does that mean some selectors have already won? Can there be multiple Eternal Girls? From the first episode, we're told that there are supposed to be way more selectors than just the characters we're shown - it's inconceivable that not even one of them has won three times yet. In addition, since Ruuko claims that she has no wish, does that mean that nothing will happen if she loses? Maybe instead of having no wish, she'll be cursed to forever want everything, or something. I'm positive that the cards shown were probably cards of people who have already lost three times. I don't remember that image at all that you posted regarding winning three times. I do remember that there was a scene with Aki talking to her LRIG and her LRIG mentioning that the amount of wins differs for everyone. Some people don't even need to win to get their wish granted (Hitoe) and for others it can take a lot (like Aki since she was complaining that she had already won x amount of matches and still hasn't had her wish granted yet). |
konatachan80 said: Based on what that other LRIG said, yes. Btw, which episode and time was that image? I didn't notice it. Episode 5, around the 10:00 mark. Maybe the motive behind the wish is considered in addition to the scale of the wish, too. Considering how big an asshat Akira is, it could be quite a while before her wish gets granted if that's how it works. |
| Huh, wow ... so not only do you stop being a Selector after losing three times, but your wish also gets REVERSED?! That's a pretty big risk ... all or nothing, as it were. I mean I don't think I'd want to battle if that's what it meant :S Everything was going so well for Hitoe too ... I wanted to see them battle other people too >_< I wonder who it was that beat her ... now she can't ever make friends again? That's horrible D: Yuzuki and her brother are slowly growing apart ... *sigh* I mean I understand why she wouldn't want to tell him obviously ... urgh D: Akira obviously doesn't care about Hitoe losing ... interesting she saw Iona battling for the first time. I bet she'd be really strong too. Well, it looks like Ruuko and Akira will be battling next episode though! Should be interesting ;O |
| To be honest, I thought if you lose three times you will die but a reversed wish is also cruel. |
| Wow this just got really interesting!! I really hope that Ruuko kick Akira's ass, she doesn't have a wish so maybe the idol won't take advantage of her with the bullying ... |
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| What a dark turn 0u0...I didn't think the penalty for losing 3 times was that bad... |
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| Aki-Luc- SHUT THE FUCK UP GODDAMNIT. Damn, it's one of those character that the writter look like he's trying to tell you that you must hate her because she's a terrible being. Anyway, that's an awful downside to those wishes. I feel kinda dumb that I didn't saw it coming, those creepy scene or preview should have hinted me that there was something wrong with those wishes. Iona basically murdered someone. I mean, she knew that the wishes were reversed when someone lose three times and she defeated her without flinching at all. It's gonna end badly for Yuzuki. Even if at one point she throw away her card. You can see that her brother is getting farther from her and that his friends are pushing him to be less close to his sister. I hope that Ruko kick Akira ass. I don't know what her wish is and I don't care. She's just a bitch and that's all I need to know. There is also a lot of hint that Ruko will wish for an apocalypse, like when she said that if everything disappeared, if Yuzuki sorrow would disappear too. I guess it's heading for the sad or bittersweet ending. |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
| Interesting, not as dark as it could have been. |
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Tendou-kun said: To be honest, I thought if you lose three times you will die but a reversed wish is also cruel. Well if you wish for eternal life, or better health, then you obviously die if you loose 3 times. That's probably what Akira experienced when she was talking about that hospital, seizure thing. |
| LOL this anime babies Hitoe and then kicks her to the curb. Brutal. I love it. ざまみろ。 I used to hate Akira for her attitude, but at the very least she has a goal, and uses everything at her disposal to further that goal. On the other hand, Ruuko's jumpyass attitude is really starting to annoy me. Hope Akira beats some sense into Ruuko next time. And it's about time Hazuki's moved on from Yuzuki. Enough with babying the stubborn sister who just keeps ramming her head against the brick wall instead of opening the door in front of her. So much reap and sow in this game. Poetic justice for hetare characters is served with a fine appetizer of tears, suffering and misery. |
Joshua1207 said: Toradoche said: There are some questions I have though - The scene with Midoriko disappearing shows the cards of other people who have lost. If this is the case, does that mean some selectors have already won? Can there be multiple Eternal Girls? From the first episode, we're told that there are supposed to be way more selectors than just the characters we're shown - it's inconceivable that not even one of them has won three times yet. In addition, since Ruuko claims that she has no wish, does that mean that nothing will happen if she loses? Maybe instead of having no wish, she'll be cursed to forever want everything, or something. I'm positive that the cards shown were probably cards of people who have already lost three times. I don't remember that image at all that you posted regarding winning three times. I do remember that there was a scene with Aki talking to her LRIG and her LRIG mentioning that the amount of wins differs for everyone. Some people don't even need to win to get their wish granted (Hitoe) and for others it can take a lot (like Aki since she was complaining that she had already won x amount of matches and still hasn't had her wish granted yet). I'm quite sure those cards were just Hitoe's full deck. |
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| I'm happy this show is getting much more interesting, but thats just cruel Hitoe was actually my favorite character of the show too. I mean if I were in her shoes and being intentionally unable to make a friend, or else a great deal of pain will be inflicted on you I might as well hang myself or drink a bottle of pills. The LRIGS should have told them the consequences for losing three times that way this tragedy could have been avoided if possible. |
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| BAD END. Coming Soon. |
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| Ohohoho...Akira is in for some serious beatdown. Ahh I hope Ruru makes her squirm. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| I don't understand the low ratings for this so far, this episode has basically put it on Madoka's level now. xchee said: Ohohoho...Akira is in for some serious beatdown. Ahh I hope Ruru makes her squirm. Yup, hoping for an epic duel(?) between them. |
| The series title finally makes sense after this episode! The anime is starting to get pretty good. |
| "Me ni wa me wo, ha ni wa ha wo, aku ni wa aku wo." |
| I think what makes this twist so cruel is that even if their wish is fulfilled, as long as they remain Selectors they're still vulnerable to losing and having that wish corrupted. It was really heartbreaking seeing Hitoe reduced to that state of confusion and terror. I guess this has hit Yuzuki hard as well since I'm willing to bet that her wish being tainted = her hating her brother or vice versa. The story of that girl with a medical condition was awful, Akira really does set me off. Also this is an extremely long shot but I wonder if Ruko losing 3 times would taint her lack of a wish. For example, losing all desire or something like that. |
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| I knew it. This whole time I had 2 questions: - What's the punishment for blasphemy (like Iori said) - What does really happen when you lose 3 times. Actually, I was kind of thinking that maybe your wish gets reversed. That or you fall into eternal darkness or become a card. Turns out it was the first one. That actually means that Ruko has an advantage because she doesn't have a wish. Although she did once mention that she wants her grandmother to live as long as possible. I hope that doesn't count as her wish. Not that she's going to lose sometime soon anyway. I wonder who the dark guy was and why he came to fight her after she had already fulfilled her wish? Also, I'm pretty sure you can cheat with your wish by choosing something that's difficult or impossible to reverse. But that would lower your options too. |
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| finally taking a huge turn into the dark I thought they were going to say she dies O_O lol Tama and Ru are going to beat ur aki-lucky ass (well i hope so) |
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| Glad I un-dropped this. Good episode. Weird way of reversing the wish... but I figured something like that was going to happen. Wish for friends = no friends for you, ever. I wonder who setup this "game"... |
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| Ahh... that wasn't much of a plot twist but still awesome. They did it well that it's good even if the outcome was obvious. The same old routine that never gets old.. nothing's free in any world dayo. Hanayo-san not very sporting there.. Tama-chan has some memory issues I see. Now the battle begins.. I hope it'll last long and not very one sided. I must be weird for not hating Akira.. muahaha. XD |
| Intense stuff. ahxiian said: Ahh... that wasn't much of a plot twist but still awesome. Maybe because it wasn't a plot twist. It was pretty obvious from the beginning of the anime that there was going to be some sort of negative consequences for losing 3 times. |
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| hot dark girl Iona gets the 5 level by saying some fire-Willy wards good if black become white then its super evil thing in here well i just can't stop watching this and loving it go next |
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| That plot twist it is subtle but there I never expected that Iona was part of the WIXOSS world before the human world. |
| Damn that's pretty fucked up! things sure are going to get real now so let's see what's next! |
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| Looks like the real plot is starting, yeeaaah~! |
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| Damn, it didnt expect it to get that dark. |
| I will freely admit that I avoided watching this show for the longest time because of the Madoka comparisons, but five episodes through season one--and it took about that long to get interesting in the first place--I'm not sure how much the comparison still holds. Both are dark interpretations of a genre, but that's it. Madoka explores some of the potential flaws in a magical girl system--such as power source, giving teenagers the task of saving the world, what they're fighting--while WIXOSS simply uses card games as metaphors to develop its characters (fuck if we ever learn the mechanics). WIXOSS is also much more honest about its mood to a fault, as in you already get the sense to expect something bad to happen (thank you, Hanayo and Midoriko, for clarifying that about Tama. Because I couldn't figure out that something is strange about her). The pacing on Yuzuki's story is a little fast but still works when it absolutely needs to, while Hitoe is essentially WIXOSS' Mami in that both are solely there to show what happens when shit hits the fan, or more shit hitting the fan in WIXOSS' case. Leading girl Ruko is p much the normal girl, though even beyond the battles it seems Tama is reflective of her somehow. And of course there's Akira, and to give WIXOSS another point in its favor, it seems to have no problem giving us someone completely petty and shallow. That strawberry blonde can peep at my desires any day. Incidentally, with the Madoka comparisons gone after the superficial similarities, I'd say WIXOSS is the subversion of the deconstruction genre. |
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| WHAM! What an episode! I was like "holy shit that fucking sucks" when it was revealed that your wish would get tainted. Like, reeaaalllyy tainted. LRIGs pull a Kyuubey not telling them the conesquences. Ouch. Poor Hitoe! In this case then Ruuko has the advantage with not having a wish right? Who the fuck made the card game anyways? Can't they just raid his house and beat the shit out of him? Akira's such a bitch but she's also hilarious. "Let's tinkle together!" "Nopey nopey!" Also...has Yuzuki seriously never tied her hair before or something? :/ |
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| Your wish becoming tainted? Wow, now that's dark and horrifying! Ruuko is so lucky she doesn't have a wish. |
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| That is a big drawback to the game. Poor girl.. |
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