| Since I'm attending school again, I've noticed that a lot of my classmates have a really limited vocabulary and are not able to write grammatically correct sentences in their native language. Granted, many of them are of immigrant background, but it's really not limited to them. My politics teacher told me that she lets her students answer questions in key points rather than making them write full sentences, since she has to evaluate language proficiency too and these sentences would end up so wrong most of the time, that a lot of students would end up failing if they'd try to write full sentences. So she makes them write as less as possible. Kinda sad if you ask me. Did you experience this too? I don't think it's an isolated problem. |
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| Give people an inch and they'll take a mile. I would say yes. My whole countries education system is victim to such antics. |
| I have not met an illiterate person irl And by met I mean talked to. Not counting random ppl I see on the street There are a few people I know that have moved from other countries, but they seem proficient at reading/writing. Their grammar can be a mess at times, but generally they are ok. |
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Cupquake said: I have not met an illiterate person irl And by met I mean talked to. Not counting random ppl I see on the street This, and to add - mathmatically challenged? Well that's another story |
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Shiratori99 said: My politics teacher told me that she lets her students answer questions in key points rather than making them write full sentences, since she has to evaluate language proficiency too and these sentences would end up so wrong most of the time, that a lot of students would end up failing if they'd try to write full sentences. So she makes them write as less as possible. Kinda sad if you ask me. Did you experience this too? I don't think it's an isolated problem. Yeah, everyone in my classes have awful spelling and grammar. Its really cringe-worthy reading my peers essays because of the extremely limited vocabulary that they use plus all of the grammar mistakes. It also makes peer evaluations pointless because no one ever gives useful feedback due to their lack of knowledge. |
| I nevar hat ane probems lik that be four, butt it doesnt halp that I wint two a smal scool and nevar realy payed much atention to peeple. |
| I wonder sometimes about that sometimes. I dunno though. I can't say whether I myself am literate, and I'm sure that, to someone more educated and more intelligent, I can seem just as stupid and blabbery as those I look down on. |
| I only noticed this problem back up until the end of high school and maybe my college freshman year. Thank goodness. Reading-wise I had no problem despite my lack of study, and my only major problem with writing was lack of clarity and pretentious language. I'm not a hot shot now, but I still cringe at some of my earlier college work. |
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| Well, I've read that for example the range of vocabulary a kid acquires depends largely on the amount of words spoken to them by their parents when they are small. So if the parents already have a limited vocabulary, the kids will probably inherit that. Apart from that it may also be a sign that the parents didn't devote enough time to speak with their children and develop their language skills. |
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| I think I'm one of these illiterate people as English is technically my 3rd language. I often use the same words over and over again which will definetly make any native cringe as they read my passages. Oh well, but I'm still trying to improve. I believe the best way to solve this problem is to address it rather than making them write as short as possible. |
julyan04 said: I think I'm one of these illiterate people as English is technically my 3rd language. I often use the same words over and over again which will definetly make any native cringe as they read my passages. Oh well, but I'm still trying to improve. I believe the best way to solve this problem is to address it rather than making them write as short as possible. Why do people with English as an alternative language say their English is bad, but they're better than most who have it as their native language? I have always wondered this. OT: The route your teacher is taking is probably hurting them more. If they aren't being challenged to improve their literacy, they won't improve. |
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julyan04 said: I think I'm one of these illiterate people as English is technically my 3rd language. I often use the same words over and over again which will definetly make any native cringe as they read my passages. Oh well, but I'm still trying to improve. I believe the best way to solve this problem is to address it rather than making them write as short as possible. Well, I'm talking about native speakers though. It's understandable that you are not proficient in foreign languages unless you studied them extensively. But I think you should be somewhat able to express yourself in your native language. |
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| That's really sad. |
| I blame cell phones, texting, Doge, and the internet in general. And Kindles. Pick up a damn book. |
| Me no know what you talk about haha |
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| Well I'm probably guilty of this cos English isn't my first or second language... But I think I'm better at putting my point across then some people who only speak English are @___@ I do have a much bigger vocabulary in Spanish tho xp |
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| My grammar sucks ass in every language. |
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| I'm in Canada and it seems after middle school English teachers don't even teach grammar. This is a problem considering English has wacky grammar, and it simply isn't intuitive enough for kids to understand. So pretty much if kids just squandered their childhood having "fun" and not paying attention in English class or spend time reading books, their grammar and vocabulary will probably be close to elementary school level. Which is.. pretty crappy. |
mclovinballz said: 'trying too hard' was basically invented for posts like yours.I nevar hat ane probems lik that be four, butt it doesnt halp that I wint two a smal scool and nevar realy payed much atention to peeple. Well, French is a pretty hard langage mostly due to its ridiculously complicated grammar, so it's not that uncommon to see students reach highscool or college and still make a lot of small -and sometimes huge- grammar mistakes in their essays. The popularization of txt slang probably didn't help either. As for the vocabulary, I'd say it all comes down to how much one reads, as it's pretty much the #1 way to expand one's vocabulary. Not sure it's on topic, but I remember one of my highschool French teacher saying something that stuck with me until now: "A majority of people don't know how to read properly". And I believe it's true. When you don't exercise/practise regurlarly to read out loud, if you're asked to read something out loud (in front of your class for eg.) most times you're gonna end up stumbling over a lot of words and that'll be pretty hard to hear for your audience. |
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novatic said: I'm sure you fail at a lot of things.NTAD said: I blame cell phones, texting, Doge, and the internet in general. And Kindles. Pick up a damn book. I fail to see how choosing Kindles over books would affect your vocabulary. |
| The non-native English speakers in this topic surprise me with how well they write in English. I know most Americans cannot speak or write correctly. I think it has to do with no one caring about it anymore. |
| i think i have good reading and writing skills in english but lack speaking skills |
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novatic said: Probably because the Kindle has already rotted your brain. Peasant.NTAD said: I blame cell phones, texting, Doge, and the internet in general. And Kindles. Pick up a damn book. I fail to see how choosing Kindles over books would affect your vocabulary. |
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| Yes, laziness is an epidemic. |
| I get As in all my classes and I am a good story writer, but when it comes to grammar I really couldn't care less. As long as people get the gist of what I'm trying to say. My vocabulary isn't very big, but simple words work fine for me. |
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| A fair amount of people that can't write (in English) very well attend my university, but I feel unqualified to pass judgement. I'll become bilingual one day, I swear... |
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Zetrin said: julyan04 said: I think I'm one of these illiterate people as English is technically my 3rd language. I often use the same words over and over again which will definetly make any native cringe as they read my passages. Oh well, but I'm still trying to improve. I believe the best way to solve this problem is to address it rather than making them write as short as possible. Why do people with English as an alternative language say their English is bad, but they're better than most who have it as their native language? I have always wondered this. OT: The route your teacher is taking is probably hurting them more. If they aren't being challenged to improve their literacy, they won't improve. We just want to show off. We're just craving for attention. |
| Yeah that's already TV generation plus crappy education systems. |
| I used to know this guy who used to write in msn slang for tests |
| My grammar is fine but it doesn't look like it IRL cause my handwriting is god awful. |
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| I was in advanced classes, so I never encountered this. |
| English is my 3rd language, and uh I speak it well. |
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| Yeah, the English teachers I've had haven't been great at teaching the subject. My current one doesn't even explain how we should write, just gives us a paper with a structure or some information and that's it. Like that's going to help us...... :\ |
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