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Apr 22, 2014 4:26 PM
#41
LadyRenly said: I'd try to dodge it by any means. No way I'd allow myself to be cannon fodder. I'll push the button for a drone strike maybe, or deliver coffee to the general, but that's my limit Pretty much this. I value my own life above pretty much anything so I don't want to put it at jeopardy like that. |
Apr 22, 2014 4:30 PM
#42
Try to get drafted as a medic or a cook. |
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Apr 22, 2014 4:31 PM
#43
I would shoot myself and then go home early, like a true hero |
Apr 22, 2014 4:31 PM
#44
mclovinballz said: Will I at least get a laugh out of it from Red Army pride propaganda? Unlikely. The movie was baddly scripted from what I gatherd. If you want to jab at propaganda Jackie Chans 1911, would be a good one. |
Apr 22, 2014 4:31 PM
#45
pay them to get some other guy into it and ask for a gun |
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Apr 22, 2014 4:31 PM
#46
Approximately go to war (in my pocket). |
Apr 22, 2014 7:08 PM
#47
mclovinballz said: Shooting deserters, maybe. I agree with McLovin that shooting draft dodgers isn't going to happen though. But why dodge the draft when you could just get out of it altogether by some other means? (Disqualification, conscientious objector, etc.)Shiratori99 said: If I resisted the draft I'd likely get shot on the spot, so I'd probably go with the flow and then desert and disappear on the first occasion. Are you American? The Army these days is too much of a pussy to go shooting draft dodgers, they'd just slap some jail time is all. In my case, though I am in the preferred age bracket for selective service, I won't be drafted. I've already been disqualified from serving, twice. Tried to join the Marines, and tried to join the Army National Guard a few years after that. But if things got desperate enough, who knows, maybe they'd reconsider my disqualification. Anyways, if I were drafted, I'd serve honorably and do my utmost to make it back in one piece. I would probably try to get medic for my MOS. Considering I aced the ASVAB back when I was trying to join the Marines, I think I'd have no problem. Or something language related. Linguistic talent runs in my family. |
Apr 22, 2014 7:18 PM
#48
Fun Fact: Males were given the vote because of their requirement to serve their government. It was literally the price they had to pay: dedicate their lives to their country, and only then would they be able to vote for their country. Females were given the vote because they asked for it. And do not have to serve their country's military (males still do). But male privilege, amirite? OnT: Fight in the war I guess. What else does one do when drafted? I'd probably die. Or, since I most likely don't measure up to whatever military requirements there are, I'd be given some non-combat position. I guess that all depends on how desperate the situation is. With our technological advancement though, I don't really see another WW1 happening. It's not like wars are fought in trenches any more. |
Apr 22, 2014 7:20 PM
#49
Jackrabb1t said: mclovinballz said: Shooting deserters, maybe. I agree with McLovin that shooting draft dodgers isn't going to happen though. But why dodge the draft when you could just get out of it altogether by some other means? (Disqualification, conscientious objector, etc.)Shiratori99 said: If I resisted the draft I'd likely get shot on the spot, so I'd probably go with the flow and then desert and disappear on the first occasion. Are you American? The Army these days is too much of a pussy to go shooting draft dodgers, they'd just slap some jail time is all. In my case, though I am in the preferred age bracket for selective service, I won't be drafted. I've already been disqualified from serving, twice. Tried to join the Marines, and tried to join the Army National Guard a few years after that. But if things got desperate enough, who knows, maybe they'd reconsider my disqualification. Anyways, if I were drafted, I'd serve honorably and do my utmost to make it back in one piece. I would probably try to get medic for my MOS. Considering I aced the ASVAB back when I was trying to join the Marines, I think I'd have no problem. Or something language related. Linguistic talent runs in my family. The military still won't give a shit if you go AWOL. All the military does these days is put out a warrant without even attempting to find you. Even if you get caught, all you get is 30 days of jail time and then chaptered out. Hell, down at FT Benning, Drill Sergeant would give you directions if you want to go AWOL and tell you "See if I care". |
Apr 22, 2014 7:26 PM
#50
mclovinballz said: Yes, but technically a dishonorable discharge (and I assume a draft dodge) stays on your record and disqualifies you from certain things, like gun ownership, or other rights.Jackrabb1t said: mclovinballz said: Shooting deserters, maybe. I agree with McLovin that shooting draft dodgers isn't going to happen though. But why dodge the draft when you could just get out of it altogether by some other means? (Disqualification, conscientious objector, etc.)Shiratori99 said: If I resisted the draft I'd likely get shot on the spot, so I'd probably go with the flow and then desert and disappear on the first occasion. Are you American? The Army these days is too much of a pussy to go shooting draft dodgers, they'd just slap some jail time is all. In my case, though I am in the preferred age bracket for selective service, I won't be drafted. I've already been disqualified from serving, twice. Tried to join the Marines, and tried to join the Army National Guard a few years after that. But if things got desperate enough, who knows, maybe they'd reconsider my disqualification. Anyways, if I were drafted, I'd serve honorably and do my utmost to make it back in one piece. I would probably try to get medic for my MOS. Considering I aced the ASVAB back when I was trying to join the Marines, I think I'd have no problem. Or something language related. Linguistic talent runs in my family. The military still won't give a shit if you go AWOL. All the military does these days is put out a warrant without even attempting to find you. Even if you get caught, all you get is 30 days of jail time and then chaptered out. Hell, down at FT Benning, Drill Sergeant would give you directions if you want to go AWOL and tell you "See if I care". |
Apr 22, 2014 7:42 PM
#51
I hate the whole idea of being in the military honestly. If I wanted to be in the military I would already be in it now (22 now). I would hate the culture of conformity, unquestioning obedience, and lack of freedom. I live in the U.S. and among other things, I don't agree with our military's actions in various countries right now and I'm against the whole "Policing the world" mentality the country seems to have these days in terms of deploying its army to fight in conflicts too easily. If there was a draft, I'd try to find a way around it, probably by going to another country if I could. The only way I would actually allow myself to be drafted is if there is a direct threat to the U.S.A. from invaders then yes I would go to protect my family and friends. |
Apr 22, 2014 7:43 PM
#52
can i be a sniper? |
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Apr 22, 2014 7:56 PM
#53
Apr 22, 2014 8:25 PM
#54
Red_Keys said: Fun Fact: Males were given the vote because of their requirement to serve their government. It was literally the price they had to pay: dedicate their lives to their country, and only then would they be able to vote for their country. Females were given the vote because they asked for it. And do not have to serve their country's military (males still do). But male privilege, amirite? OnT: Fight in the war I guess. What else does one do when drafted? I'd probably die. Or, since I most likely don't measure up to whatever military requirements there are, I'd be given some non-combat position. I guess that all depends on how desperate the situation is. With our technological advancement though, I don't really see another WW1 happening. It's not like wars are fought in trenches any more. Well, in the UK the right to vote used to be directly linked to property, not the obligation to serve the governement. And in France it relied on a suffrage based on a tax qualification up until the mid XIXth century. Besides that, it's not like the draft is unanimously supported, so... Anyway back OT : I wouldn't want to fight for my country (or any country for that matter), as I have no notion of pratriotic love whatsoever. But I would probably just go along and try my best to ace all my tests and hope for a secure position when no actual fighting is required. |
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Apr 22, 2014 8:33 PM
#55
I would go if it was a war worth it, if its one that aligns with my own morale code or something to that affect... But I don't see high casualties in this age nor do I think there would be alot of people seeing action in the way past wars were fought, serving in the time of war seems most likely to happen. |
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Apr 22, 2014 8:43 PM
#56
Self mutilation or draft dodging for me. If the war was on our land then I would try to flee the country if at all possible. There is really no situation were I believe a war would be worth it for me. I prioritize my life over my country and its well-being. |
Apr 22, 2014 10:29 PM
#57
i'd probably be made to be a pencil pusher, so... i wouldn't do too much. |
Apr 22, 2014 10:36 PM
#59
Fight the war like the man I am. Then when (if?) I get home, I'd start a revolution and decapitate whoever made me go to war in the first place. Cuz war sucks Cue Platoon Music |
Apr 22, 2014 11:08 PM
#60
My original country does have drafts... I am ditching it right now by being a US citizen. But if the United States were to ever call me in, I'd join in a heartbeat. Because I know that I am fighting for FREEDOM! 'MURICA! (just kidding, btw. I don't know what I'll do. I'll probably join and see if I can do something that doesn't require me on the front lines) |
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Apr 23, 2014 12:18 AM
#61
Depends who we're fighting and whether they're a threat to my people. Perhaps it'd be a good excuse to get rid of some pent-up aggression, start collecting scalps or something idk. |
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Apr 23, 2014 12:27 AM
#62
Camp and Hardscope. I mean, Someone like me would get picked on by the adults and start pushing me to the front lines. I'd go for any job that involves jets. |
Apr 23, 2014 12:32 AM
#63
I dont kill or die for my country. That will never happen. |
Apr 23, 2014 12:40 AM
#64
Kill or be killed. That's war. |
Apr 23, 2014 1:00 AM
#65
It depends on the war.If it was was a war our government deliberately pulled us into like sending a supply ship to one of the sides in a conflict to get bombed like in WWI or provking a county into attacking us by cutting off trade during a time of war then I am refusing the draft. If its one of those we got to spread democracy and stop a particular ideology from spreading like Vietnam was then I am refusing the draft. If its to do defend another country then I am refusing the draft. The only was I would accept a draft is if we are being attacked on US soil and we did nothing to provoke such an attack.. |
Apr 23, 2014 1:13 AM
#66
well i would like to fight but i am pretty sure it wont be some glorious battle it would be another pointless war started by someone with twisted mind |
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Apr 23, 2014 1:30 AM
#67
If I ever got drafted, I'd probably get kicked out shortly into boot camp for the sleeping disorder :P Even if they relaxed it enough for me to get through, I'd never get sent to the front lines for the same reason (would YOU want a narcoleptic in your platoon?). That being said, even if it came down to just assisting with analysis and planning, I would participate to the best of my abilities if allowed. |
Apr 23, 2014 1:48 AM
#68
Apr 23, 2014 3:28 AM
#69
Fight. As much as I don't want to, I have to answer the call of duty when my country needs me. For a shitty reason or a good reason, I see it's my obligation to do so. |
Apr 23, 2014 3:41 AM
#70
BryanBossling said: Depends who we're fighting and whether they're a threat to my people. Perhaps it'd be a good excuse to get rid of some pent-up aggression, start collecting scalps or something idk. In modern warfare doing something like that would land you in hot water, even if it was a part in completing your objectives. :V http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1296136/As-Gurkha-disciplined-beheading-Taliban-Thank-God-side.html |
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Apr 23, 2014 3:45 AM
#71
They'd regret trying to draft me. |
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Apr 23, 2014 3:47 AM
#72
Nicole said: They'd regret trying to draft me. Why? D: |
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Apr 23, 2014 3:48 AM
#73
dankickyou said: Nicole said: They'd regret trying to draft me. Why? D: I'd give them a good telling off. |
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Apr 23, 2014 3:52 AM
#74
Nicole said: dankickyou said: Nicole said: They'd regret trying to draft me. Why? D: I'd give them a good telling off. I'm sure there's nothing military men are afraid more than a 20 page lecture on the evils of War by Nicole! D: |
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Apr 23, 2014 3:54 AM
#75
dankickyou said: Nicole said: dankickyou said: Nicole said: They'd regret trying to draft me. Why? D: I'd give them a good telling off. I'm sure there's nothing military men are afraid more than a 20 page lecture on the evils of War by Nicole! D: I wouldn't underestimate it. |
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Apr 23, 2014 4:12 AM
#76
As a female, it's highly likely that one would end being sexually abused. |
Apr 23, 2014 7:34 AM
#77
Infinite said: As a female, it's highly likely that one would end being sexually abused. By whom? |
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Apr 23, 2014 7:56 AM
#78
I don't want to end up in a gulag. Please, no. |
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Apr 23, 2014 7:59 AM
#79
Shiratori99 said: Male Soldiers on either side. Combat Arms are of note for this.Infinite said: As a female, it's highly likely that one would end being sexually abused. By whom? |
Apr 23, 2014 8:00 AM
#80
azzuRe said: I don't want to end up in a gulag. Please, no. No means nothing to Stalin! http://www.quickmeme.com/img/90/906dd59b2c01371777c9b682016c31c07c72a7a698d7013542e6b53371a8fbb2.jpg |
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Apr 23, 2014 8:06 AM
#81
RedArmyShogun said: Shiratori99 said: Male Soldiers on either side. Combat Arms are of note for this.Infinite said: As a female, it's highly likely that one would end being sexually abused. By whom? I'd say if they get abused by their own comrades your military got a problem with discipline. |
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Apr 23, 2014 8:11 AM
#82
Shiratori99 said: RedArmyShogun said: Shiratori99 said: Male Soldiers on either side. Combat Arms are of note for this.Infinite said: As a female, it's highly likely that one would end being sexually abused. By whom? I'd say if they get abused by their own comrades your military got a problem with discipline. In part its that, in another its the d'esprit et de corps, or Morale. Most Male combat infantrymen and the like given they typically have to train harder than the female counter part tends to look down on them. And when a inferior fights along side of you, or against you, well naturally matter of pride... The Soviets and Israelis never had this problem to a large scale oddly. Well in its own forces. They rape the shit out of others. But then again their training isn't any laxer on Females than Males, so any female that could finish the training was as good as her male coutnerpart. Also given this very few women were in the combat arms, minus as snipers and pilots, and even then at a 100 to 1 ratio. In many western militaries this ratio is more like 20-100 or so, but thats as the training standards are more lax for the female, and the male, so naturally it breeds resentment in the one hand, contempt in the other. In the US praticularly of note several "reforms" have lead to a dramatic rise in PMC activity. What was once a multi million dollar industry is now in the 100 billion range. |
Apr 23, 2014 8:14 AM
#83
RedArmyShogun said: Shiratori99 said: I dont think military is safe for women at the time of war as chances of rape and abused are high especially by opponents army RedArmyShogun said: Shiratori99 said: Male Soldiers on either side. Combat Arms are of note for this.Infinite said: As a female, it's highly likely that one would end being sexually abused. By whom? I'd say if they get abused by their own comrades your military got a problem with discipline. In part its that, in another its the d'esprit et de corps, or Morale. Most Male combat infantrymen and the like given they typically have to train harder than the female counter part tends to look down on them. And when a inferior fights along side of you, or against you, well naturally matter of pride... The Soviets and Israelis never had this problem to a large scale oddly. Well in its own forces. They rape the shit out of others. But then again their training isn't any laxer on Females than Males, so any female that could finish the training was as good as her male coutnerpart. Also given this very few women were in the combat arms, minus as snipers and pilots, and even then at a 100 to 1 ratio. |
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Apr 23, 2014 8:16 AM
#84
Minus your broke quotes up there, its not for the most part. A woman in the Armed services is 75% more likely to be raped than her civilian counterpart. And thats just from her own side. Those numbers are pretty much standard across the global spectrum minus a few points here and there. |
Apr 23, 2014 8:18 AM
#85
Shiratori99 said: "We could use this man/woman/potato for this necessary non-combat role, ORRRR, shoot them, get bad press, and have to clean it up!"Of course not, they'd execute him in front of his comrades to show that everyone who refuses to fight or thinks of deserting is as good as dead already. That's what they have always done in serious wars until today. ??? |
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Apr 23, 2014 8:22 AM
#86
Mogu-sama said: Shiratori99 said: "We could use this man/woman/potato for this necessary non-combat role, ORRRR, shoot them, get bad press, and have to clean it up!"Of course not, they'd execute him in front of his comrades to show that everyone who refuses to fight or thinks of deserting is as good as dead already. That's what they have always done in serious wars until today. ??? Nonsense. Shoot the Press as well. |
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Apr 23, 2014 8:25 AM
#87
Apr 23, 2014 8:26 AM
#88
Mogu-sama said: RedArmyShogun said: What could possibly go wrong?Nonsense. Shoot the Press as well. In fairness with the UK, Germany, France, the US any of those, if they were in a World War situation that made a draft needed, there will be riots and civil resistance. The tolertarian means that would be needed to make a draft possible, would make shooting protestors, newmen, and dodgers, par for the course. I fully expect camps made to imprison the races that Country A was fighting would prop up as well. |
Apr 23, 2014 8:27 AM
#89
Mogu-sama said: RedArmyShogun said: What could possibly go wrong?Nonsense. Shoot the Press as well. Dead men can't talk ~~ |
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Apr 23, 2014 8:28 AM
#90
Possibility of rape aside, I want to see more women in combat roles. |
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