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Nov 9, 2009 12:56 AM

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Because they don't want to be addicted to this show, just like people stay away from drugs.
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I laugh!!

One thing..

Well by what you (the guy who is talking "bad" of one piece) say, it doesn't matters what happens after a world champiochip cause 4 years latter there will be another...

What is important is what happens during the arc.. and not that no character dies...
And I say you that characters dye... OMFG.. the last arc started with billions of persons, and now there are only about 400!!
Dec 23, 2009 2:31 PM

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I used to be thrown off to from the animation way back in the day. Finally i decided to check it out a few months ago and im really addicted. its an amazing series that really shines in all area's of the series. Definitely much better then naruto and bleach. I'm at the skypia arc right now. I have to admit my favorite arcs were probably, Arabasta > jaya > Arlong > Drum... in that order.



Dec 24, 2009 6:05 AM

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link9us said:
I used to be thrown off to from the animation way back in the day. Finally i decided to check it out a few months ago and im really addicted. its an amazing series that really shines in all area's of the series. Definitely much better then naruto and bleach. I'm at the skypia arc right now. I have to admit my favorite arcs were probably, Arabasta > jaya > Arlong > Drum... in that order.


Wait till you see the Water 7 Arc
Dec 24, 2009 6:12 AM

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I agree! One Piece= GREATEST COMIC/SHOW EVER CREATED! HANDS DOWN!


For reasons such as this I imagine...
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Jan 25, 2010 10:49 PM

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small warning, i am a completely crazy OP fan - and i prob give fans a bad name, but that`s only because i love it so much.

why? cause they are idiots who watch/read so much crap that they don`t know what series are awesome and epic if it was attached to their writing hand.

tho, objectively, the anime doesn`t do the manga justice. also if they watched that dubbed version which ought to be burned and never heard of or seen again, that could explain it too.

also, its the best selling manga EVER, it has box office record breaking movies, amusement parks, ferry ride, etc..., so even if they hate it, they really shouldn`t be able to say it`s bad.
therefore, if people hate it, the problem obviously lies with the person hating such an amazing series.
Jan 7, 2011 6:32 PM

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Stythys said:
I would like to explain it myself...but I'm lazy, so I'll have someone else do the work.

http://www.baka-raptor.com/2009/08/01/three-strikes-for-one-piece/

They really are a baka.
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Jan 7, 2011 7:01 PM
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One Piece is Good,Far from great but good.It's just like every other shounen out there..and before anyone says otherwise have you read all the other crap out there? One Piece is that just with a LOT of talk.The pace at which it move makes me wish it had the same pace as bleach does..(That would be an improvement).

The Comic is slow..an animation adaptation makes it ever SLOWER.One Piece is repetitive very..very..very repetitive.I can't even begin to comprehend how many frickin time I've heard chopper repeat everything EVERYONE says,Ask wheres a doctor...or praise ussop for his obvious lies.In EVERY arc I've read so far,it's been very typical shounen The main character gets his ass kicked,kicked again,and again...Then one more time.Then he comes back and kicks ass.

By all means One Piece is not "unique" It's just like the rest,It's good,but not great.
(but by all means don't ake my word for it I'm a sucker for shounen stuff..most of the time.)

EDIT:Did I mention the "Story" is basically non-existent
Angra-MainyuJan 7, 2011 7:55 PM
Jan 7, 2011 9:12 PM

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Cause its ugly
Jan 7, 2011 9:16 PM

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Indeed, but I'd much rather deal with a somewhat-slow anime that an anime plagued with filler like that of Bleach and Naruto. And even with the "slow" pace, at least something always happens in an episode, which is more than I can say for the other two.
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small warning, i am a completely crazy OP fan - and i prob give fans a bad name, but that`s only because i love it so much.

why? cause they are idiots who watch/read so much crap that they don`t know what series are awesome and epic if it was attached to their writing hand.

tho, objectively, the anime doesn`t do the manga justice. also if they watched that dubbed version which ought to be burned and never heard of or seen again, that could explain it too.

also, its the best selling manga EVER, it has box office record breaking movies, amusement parks, ferry ride, etc..., so even if they hate it, they really shouldn`t be able to say it`s bad.
therefore, if people hate it, the problem obviously lies with the person hating such an amazing series.


dubbed version of one piece in any other language sucks , its easy if you dont like it dont watch it , i wonder why people keep complaining about one piece , just dont watch it and shut your mouth . cant people do something so easy?
Jan 7, 2011 11:36 PM

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Meddigo said:
Indeed, but I'd much rather deal with a somewhat-slow anime that an anime plagued with filler like that of Bleach and Naruto. And even with the "slow" pace, at least something always happens in an episode, which is more than I can say for the other two.


This.
I'd rather watch a slow-paced anime than one bombarded with filler.
I also can't stand rushed anime like Code Geass.
/shot
Jan 7, 2011 11:52 PM

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enough said.
Jan 8, 2011 12:29 AM

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paperbomb said:

enough said.


Hipster Kitty is hilarious.
Jan 11, 2011 2:25 AM

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weijie said:
swoodles said:
small warning, i am a completely crazy OP fan - and i prob give fans a bad name, but that`s only because i love it so much.

why? cause they are idiots who watch/read so much crap that they don`t know what series are awesome and epic if it was attached to their writing hand.

tho, objectively, the anime doesn`t do the manga justice. also if they watched that dubbed version which ought to be burned and never heard of or seen again, that could explain it too.

also, its the best selling manga EVER, it has box office record breaking movies, amusement parks, ferry ride, etc..., so even if they hate it, they really shouldn`t be able to say it`s bad.
therefore, if people hate it, the problem obviously lies with the person hating such an amazing series.


That has to be the most biased self centered comment i ever heard. Sure one piece is great, but just because certain fans don't like it like you do, doesn't justify the fact that they don't know what a good series is. Every show has a different approach at telling a storyline and different animation styles. One piece is obviously a series where the animation style might turn off alot of viewers. Also the fact that lots of people generally do not like a show that is that long, they think its overwhelming to them in some cases. There is many other factors i could mention why people wouldn't care for one piece but i will just leave it at that.

Every one has there rights to there own views and opinions on shows, i my self am a pretty big fan of one piece and you can see from my review so don't think im trying to put down the exciting nature of the series, but like i said, everyone is entitled to there own views and opinions on shows and i respect that.


I have seen quite my share of anime and yet i think naruto is one of the finest series ive seen. (excluding the fillers) That is MY opinion, ive had alot of hate towards that and some people even questioned me if i watched as much anime as i have as they thought i was just full of it because in there mind, "narutotards" supposedly arn't very experienced anime watchers. "Everyone who rates naruto a 10 has only seen a few series at that" I hate when people make biased assumptions like that. Its just irritating.



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link9us said:
weijie said:
swoodles said:
small warning, i am a completely crazy OP fan - and i prob give fans a bad name, but that`s only because i love it so much.

why? cause they are idiots who watch/read so much crap that they don`t know what series are awesome and epic if it was attached to their writing hand.

tho, objectively, the anime doesn`t do the manga justice. also if they watched that dubbed version which ought to be burned and never heard of or seen again, that could explain it too.

also, its the best selling manga EVER, it has box office record breaking movies, amusement parks, ferry ride, etc..., so even if they hate it, they really shouldn`t be able to say it`s bad.
therefore, if people hate it, the problem obviously lies with the person hating such an amazing series.


That has to be the most biased self centered comment i ever heard. Sure one piece is great, but just because certain fans don't like it like you do, doesn't justify the fact that they don't know what a good series is. Every show has a different approach at telling a storyline and different animation styles. One piece is obviously a series where the animation style might turn off alot of viewers. Also the fact that lots of people generally do not like a show that is that long, they think its overwhelming to them in some cases. There is many other factors i could mention why people wouldn't care for one piece but i will just leave it at that.

Every one has there rights to there own views and opinions on shows, i my self am a pretty big fan of one piece and you can see from my review so don't think im trying to put down the exciting nature of the series, but like i said, everyone is entitled to there own views and opinions on shows and i respect that.


I have seen quite my share of anime and yet i think naruto is one of the finest series ive seen. (excluding the fillers) That is MY opinion, ive had alot of hate towards that and some people even questioned me if i watched as much anime as i have as they thought i was just full of it because in there mind, "narutotards" supposedly arn't very experienced anime watchers. "Everyone who rates naruto a 10 has only seen a few series at that" I hate when people make biased assumptions like that. Its just irritating.


As I always say, anybody who judges something just on its art are idiots.
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you see, one piece is an anime created FOR US, just let them be and let us enjoy this wonder! Only FOR US! ^___^
Jan 11, 2011 12:49 PM

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As I always say, anybody who judges something just on its art are idiots.


I never criticized the show for having bad animation or terrible art. I actually find the art and the character designs unique in the series. I am just saying they are sort of "different" and some people that don't really Annalise a show well for its characterization and story development, might see the character art as a sort of turn off and never give the show a chance. I personally don't ever judge anime by animation, as i think i told you that. I rate anime by characterization, story progression and the music being used in the series. Of course eye candy animation is beautiful and a work of art compared to the cartoonish animation style of one piece.

Some people wont even watch old 80's or early 90's anime any more because they don't like the animation style. Thats ridiculous, you know some of the old shows way back then have such compelling fantastic story telling, that i look at most of these new shows now and they don't even compare. But yeah good quality animation is always a + though but if the story is not entertaining or there isnt any good characterization to go with it. There really isnt nothing to prase the show for, accept for the fact that it has "eyecandy" animation.



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weijie said:
i wonder why people keep complaining about one piece , just dont watch it and shut your mouth . cant people do something so easy?


Did you really ask that question? You're posting on a thread called "Why do a lot of people "hate" one piece" and you're wondering why people are complaining about it? The whole point of the thread is for people who don't like the anime to explain why they don't like it to inform the people who do like it and don't understand what there is not to like.


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I tried watching One Piece I really tried. made it to episode 155

You haven't seen the really good episodes yet.


This one also gets me. If you can't have a good episode by 155, then you're doing something seriously wrong.

And now for my own reasons as to why I dislike One Piece, but first a little back story.

I watched the anime up to the desert place (alabasta maybe? Or they were heading there or something. I remember there was a girl with blueish hair and a duck). I also read the manga in Shonen Jump about that far before I stopped my subscription. I honestly didn't think the dub seemed much different than what I read in the manga. I can deal with the terrible voices, and the animation/drawing styles didn't bother me after the first few chapters I read.

I don't know how many episodes in that was, but I felt that it was far enough in for me to make a decision as to whether I should stick with it or to stop watching.
I'm not going to put my points in order of importance, because I'm having trouble deciding where they fall so don't think of them that way as you read them.

1.)Too many quirky people. I think it started to bother me just how many people had eaten the FORBIDDEN devil fruit. When Luffy first eats it, you think, "Man, he can't swim, that's going to make him a bad pirate, but he sure how neat powers now." And you think he's special, and unique, and has some sort of advantage. But no, it seemed like nearly every significant person Luffy and the gang came across had also eaten the forbidden devil fruit and gained magical powers. A lot of the costumes that I saw people wearing too bothered me, such as that guy with the swan garb. I don't know. I can't take that seriously. It irks me, and it puts me off from wanting to see more.

2.)The story seemed slow. I don't just mean the anime either (because I saw a lot of people talking about a slow story vs. filler). This isn't about filler or how some other anime runs. This is about One Piece and about getting to the point. The manga also seemed like it was dragging. The plot of the story seems to be "Get to the Grand Line and find the One Piece" but it takes 400+ episodes to do this. You know what didn't take 400 episodes and had a similar story? Outlaw Star. They had to travel in space to find the Galactic Leyline to find whatever treasure was there. And let me tell you, space is much larger than a planet. I don't want to commit my time to something that doesn't want to end.

3.)The story seemed to revolve too much. Other people have said it, but I agree with it
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Luffy n crew lands on Island, Luffy n crew beats up the douchebags on the island.

I know it's a cartoon, and fantasy, and there are tons of other reasons why I shouldn't even be saying this, but get real. You can't have some kid and a few friends completely destroy the government on the islands and free the people. That's illogical, and egocentric. That's like the United States going into other countries saying they're doing it wrong and wiping out their government as they please. And it bothers me to see this happening over and over again.


As a reminder if you're getting frustrated reading my post remember this is a "Why do alot of people "hate" one piece" thread, and I am simply stating my reasons.


Another thing that bothered me about One Piece is the motif of The Dreamer. I saw some people mention it and I agree that it's a good thing to dream and to dream big, but I feel like it is too childish. Yes Naruto also started this way, but as Naruto turned into Naruto: Shippuden, you never hear him mention it again. He gets older, grows up, becomes more mature, and it seems like from one arc to the next there isn't much in the way of the characters maturing. Granted, I haven't seen a lot of the show, but from some of the videos I've seen and from the way it's talked about, after the severe, dramatic moments of each arc, the show goes back to its lighthearted side as if nothing had happened before making the characters look like nothing was learned.

I also saw some relating of Fairy Tail and One Piece, and while Natsu and Luffy are similar, Natsu isn't as completely air headed as Luffy is. Luffy is ignorant of rules, laws, and social conventions. You might think that that's a perfect fit for a pirate, but a good pirate KNOWS these things and chooses to ignore them. Natsu is beast-like in nature, as he was raised by a dragon, and yet still shows more compliance with social norm that Luffy does.

And there are probably more reasons too, but I can't think of them at the moment, and since I'm getting bored of this now, I'll leave it at that.


Also, yes I just made this account to post here. I was looking around the internet for good reasons why people like the show, and I stumbled onto this website, and I felt that a lot of people didn't give good, clear reasons, so I wanted to add my input.
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^lol dude you dont know what the 'action' genre is if you are bored by people with superpowers

watch who knows.. maybe K-ON ? toradora? maybe that would fit you..



its a shounen for fucks sake.. its ACTION.. Superpowers.. got it?

give me a manga action that doesnt have superpowers include? even the martial arts manga also have superpowers..

and the show is BIG.. it NEEDS to be entertaining which Oda is perfectly doing for more than 13 years..



what did you expect? luffy has a superpower, and all the enemies just to be normal people ? fighting them in 1 panel ? think before you post..


plus devil fruits its not the main power of the story.. once you will read further you will understand about haki.


also there are Many Awesome fruits there.. like earthquakes, dinosaur fruit, darkness, fire/ice/light, magma.. etc..
plus there are fishman also.

if you think the anime is dragging read the manga..
the pace is insanely fast.. 1 chapter of OP has like 2 of naruto.. more material.. more enjoyment..
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They are just jealous because their favourite anime/manga is less popular than OP...

so they start bashing and talking bad about the popular one...

happens everytime in every popular series, even dragon ball couldn't escape from it

Normal person who doesn't like One Piece because of the story, art, or whatever it is will stop watching/reading it and give reasonable without bashing comments...

if they start bashing or talking badl about it, especially if they compare it to another series..they are definitely jealous...trollface.jpg

haters gonna hate...but One Piece sure still popular even with them in society

don't mind them...
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They are just jealous because their favourite anime/manga is less popular than OP...

so they start bashing and talking bad about the popular one...

happens everytime in every popular series, even dragon ball couldn't escape from it

Normal person who doesn't like One Piece because of the story, art, or whatever it is will stop watching/reading it and give reasonable without bashing comments...

if they start bashing or talking badl about it, especially if they compare it to another series..they are definitely jealous...trollface.jpg

haters gonna hate...but One Piece sure still popular even with them in society

don't mind them...


I believe I gave reasonably comments. And you can't say that you don't like something without someone assuming that you're bashing it.
Also, again, this is a "Why do alot of people hate one piece thread"
If you don't want to see people talking bad about the anime, don't read the thread.
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^lol dude you dont know what the 'action' genre is if you are bored by people with superpowers

watch who knows.. maybe K-ON ? toradora? maybe that would fit you..



its a shounen for fucks sake.. its ACTION.. Superpowers.. got it?

give me a manga action that doesnt have superpowers include? even the martial arts manga also have superpowers..

and the show is BIG.. it NEEDS to be entertaining which Oda is perfectly doing for more than 13 years..



what did you expect? luffy has a superpower, and all the enemies just to be normal people ? fighting them in 1 panel ? think before you post..


plus devil fruits its not the main power of the story.. once you will read further you will understand about haki.


also there are Many Awesome fruits there.. like earthquakes, dinosaur fruit, darkness, fire/ice/light, magma.. etc..
plus there are fishman also.

if you think the anime is dragging read the manga..
the pace is insanely fast.. 1 chapter of OP has like 2 of naruto.. more material.. more enjoyment..

I understand that a shounen has super powers, and I'm completely fine with that. What I'm not fine with is the that the people who have super powers, from all that I've seen, never have the same powers as anyone else. Everything is different. And to that extent, just how many different forbidden devil fruits are there?

Oda didn't have to make Luffy super strong in addition to being rubber. Luffy could have been physically weak, while the rubber power gave him utility, an advantage other enemies wouldn't have. And I'm not saying EVERY enemy shouldn't have a power, I'm just saying that there shouldn't be so many. Why couldn't there be a smart enemy without powers who is just clearly a better fighter and knows how to take advantge of his enemies' weaknesses? That's something I would enjoy seeing as opposed to seeing so many different enemies each with incredible powers.

And that's good that the devil fruit isn't the main point of the story, but Oda couldn't keep me interested enough to get that far in the story.

Also I pointed out that I read the manga as far as I watched the anime (if not a little further) and I felt that was dragging as well.
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^dude its like saying why a ninja movie has so many ninja in it ?

or saying why a sword fighting anime like bleach etc has so many battles with swords?



take away from the story and think a little..

its a world about pirates.. not ninjas or shinigami... pirates are normal people..

how would you see a battle shounen with pirates that has human powers only? and for like 600 chapters ? just imagine how it would be...

and there are 3 types of fruits.. thats why there are SO many out there... and UNIQUE and Awesome powers that you have never seen.. ( check trafalgar law fruit, or other supernova pirates)

i mean this show would be useless without this powers.. its a fight shounen manga... this Needs to have supernatural powers.. its ongoing for 13 years so ofcourse there are tons of pirates with powers..


the power without fruit you saw it in first episode with shanks saving luffy.. its just revealed later in the story.. its build up on like the entire story.. with haki you can beat other people who has fruits (even fire users etc) so thats why it was revealed later.. everything is equal.
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smokes said:
^dude its like saying why a ninja movie has so many ninja in it ?

or saying why a sword fighting anime like bleach etc has so many battles with swords?



take away from the story and think a little..

its a world about pirates.. not ninjas or shinigami... pirates are normal people..

how would you see a battle shounen with pirates that has human powers only? and for like 600 chapters ? just imagine how it would be...

and there are 3 types of fruits.. thats why there are SO many out there... and UNIQUE and Awesome powers that you have never seen.. ( check trafalgar law fruit, or other supernova pirates)

i mean this show would be useless without this powers.. its a fight shounen manga... this Needs to have supernatural powers.. its ongoing for 13 years so ofcourse there are tons of pirates with powers..


the power without fruit you saw it in first episode with shanks saving luffy.. its just revealed later in the story.. its build up on like the entire story.. with haki you can beat other people who has fruits (even fire users etc) so thats why it was revealed later.. everything is equal.


I don't know, maybe I feel like there were too many people with powers introduced too early in the series, or too many encounters with people who had some power. Something like that.

"how would you see a battle shounen with pirates that has human powers only? and for like 600 chapters ? just imagine how it would be... "

But think about it this way. If there weren't so many powers, it wouldn't NEED to be 600 chapters. It could have been shortened to something that I don't see as dauntingly long. You said it yourself, pirates are normal people, and yet, in One Piece, they clearly aren't normal people.
I think a more pure pirate anime could have been made more realistic, darker, and had a lot of really good action. Not that One Piece doesn't have its own kind of good action. It's just not the way I would prefer to see pirate action happen.
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I don't like One Piece because I don't like the plot very much, I also don't like the characters at all and I despise the art style.
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One piece fan here. i really like the series. both anime and manga. BUT there are flaws and its not perfect as most of fans describe it. i think peoples who hate one piece without watching and reading. for that one reason are op fans. i don't like when people describe things way over top and i'm really glad, i read one piece manga before reading fan discussions or i may have not read this.

Oh and please guys don't judge this series because of art. if you have other reasons. just say so.
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A hell of a lot of people just don't like it because they haven't watched it, but have watched and do like, say Bleach or something like that, so they try to rise above the One Piece fans by saying that OP is crap. Its sad, but lots of people, usually younger anime fans, do act like this. Its actually a common psychological flaw of sorts that has existed for generations, not in modern culture alone.
If my memory serves me correctly, then one of Aesop's Fables covers this principle in terms of maybe a wolf who cannot reach the fruit on the branch of a tall tree, so says "That fruit is rubbish anyway, I don't even want it". Its that kind of response a lot of people have.
This of course only applies to people who say that hate One Piece before they even watch it, or just look over a few episodes and drop it instantly because they were never open minded to liking it in the first place. Anyone who watches the first few arcs, rationally decides they don't like it because of whatever reason, and drops it then, I have no problem with, but I do feel sorry for them for missing out on such a great series.

Another thing I don't like is people who say "SHOUNEN JUMP = DBZ = NARUTO = BLEACH = CHILDISH CRAP = FAIL". One Piece falls outside of this pattern by quite a great deal if you watch or read it for long enough to appreciate the size and scale of the world it is set in, all the mysteries and in depth histories that exist for every place and character of any importance. This alone sets it above the other Shounen series for me.

Another bad argument I see quite a lot is "OP's art sucks therefore the whole thing sucks" and what it boils down to is the fact that the art style is very different to a typical anime style. Its still clearly anime, but in a different way altogether, and you do have to get used to it for a while, but the quality of the art is just the same as any other serialised manga, if not better (definitely better than Bleach, which still rarely if ever has backgrounds). The anime's quality of art isn't great in many episodes, but any weekly series is going to suffer in art quality. They seem to save up the art budget for the important episodes and all the key scenes are very well animated overall.

Overall, i love One Piece. I'll defend it to the death on virtually any percieved flaw, but I'll accept that some people just don't like it due to a natural incompatibility. That's the case with everything in life. I just can't stand people who hate it on the basis of some illogical principle, unfair judgement or stereotype of sorts.
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A hell of a lot of people just don't like it because they haven't watched it, but have watched and do like, say Bleach or something like that, so they try to rise above the One Piece fans by saying that OP is crap. Its sad, but lots of people, usually younger anime fans, do act like this. Its actually a common psychological flaw of sorts that has existed for generations, not in modern culture alone.
If my memory serves me correctly, then one of Aesop's Fables covers this principle in terms of maybe a wolf who cannot reach the fruit on the branch of a tall tree, so says "That fruit is rubbish anyway, I don't even want it". Its that kind of response a lot of people have.
This of course only applies to people who say that hate One Piece before they even watch it, or just look over a few episodes and drop it instantly because they were never open minded to liking it in the first place. Anyone who watches the first few arcs, rationally decides they don't like it because of whatever reason, and drops it then, I have no problem with, but I do feel sorry for them for missing out on such a great series.

Another thing I don't like is people who say "SHOUNEN JUMP = DBZ = NARUTO = BLEACH = CHILDISH CRAP = FAIL". One Piece falls outside of this pattern by quite a great deal if you watch or read it for long enough to appreciate the size and scale of the world it is set in, all the mysteries and in depth histories that exist for every place and character of any importance. This alone sets it above the other Shounen series for me.

Another bad argument I see quite a lot is "OP's art sucks therefore the whole thing sucks" and what it boils down to is the fact that the art style is very different to a typical anime style. Its still clearly anime, but in a different way altogether, and you do have to get used to it for a while, but the quality of the art is just the same as any other serialised manga, if not better (definitely better than Bleach, which still rarely if ever has backgrounds). The anime's quality of art isn't great in many episodes, but any weekly series is going to suffer in art quality. They seem to save up the art budget for the important episodes and all the key scenes are very well animated overall.

Overall, i love One Piece. I'll defend it to the death on virtually any percieved flaw, but I'll accept that some people just don't like it due to a natural incompatibility. That's the case with everything in life. I just can't stand people who hate it on the basis of some illogical principle, unfair judgement or stereotype of sorts.


Yeah its called a "narcissistic personality disorder"lol. A person who always dissagree's with you on every aspect or point of view, is never truthful to you, even if the person likes the show, he or she will never admit to it. Will always insult it in any way the person can and likes to feel superior to anyone, like they know everything and the whole world is wrong. man i absolutely can't stand people like that.

Well art styles are one thing that has been used in various ways with many different shows. Character designs as well. One piece obviously has very different character designs. I think that is what turns some people off. People that arnt' open minded enough, never give it a chance. I think one piece is like two sides of the coin, you will either HATE it, or LOVE it. The people that HATE it, won't give it a chance because the animation style and character designs will most likely turn them off. I my self look at it likes its very unique. The animation is pretty great and oda really created a wonderful world that can only come from someone with a great creative imagination.

Ive a huge OP fan my self but im very honest and truthful about shows, if there are flaws, i will point them out. I also don't watch a few episodes of a series and drop it unless its absolutely not my type of show. OP is one in particular that it took me a little bit to realize its significance. Though in my personal opinion, i think the first arcs, are actually better then the later arcs, just because im a real character person. I love the good characterization in the show and one piece really amazed me with its solid character building arcs early in the series.
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People always say that the people who don't like it never gave it a chance. No one ever mentions the people that DID give it a chance and still didn't like it. That's the category I fall into.
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Watamelon said:

I believe I gave reasonably comments. And you can't say that you don't like something without someone assuming that you're bashing it.
Also, again, this is a "Why do alot of people hate one piece thread"
If you don't want to see people talking bad about the anime, don't read the thread.


Yeah, and all the people who hate one piece gave reasonably comments because you did...funny, Mr Generalism.
and don't worry at least I can tell the difference of reasonable comments and bashing because of jealousy to some degree

And I didn't say, I don't want to see people talking bad about anime, although it's true that I didn't read all 10 pages in this thread coz it's wasting too much time but it's fun to see how they bashing one piece and then compare it into another series which some series I believe is crappier.
I just said I don't mind about what.

And If I'm not mistaken, this is thread "Why a lot of ppl hate one piece"

so I believe what I did in my last post is give my own version of reason "why a lot of ppl hate one piece"

and I don't see any problem with that
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People always say that the people who don't like it never gave it a chance. No one ever mentions the people that DID give it a chance and still didn't like it. That's the category I fall into.


You really sort of miss understood me. I am saying that of the majority of OP fans, people that usually make it past a certain point in the show like 20+ or so, stick with it and actually like it. People that hate the show, usually drops it on the first episode or a couple episodes in and never really gives it a chance. I haven't really seen anyone that actually watched a fair amount of episodes and still end up hating it. This show is just addicting in that way i guess where if people manage to watch 20 episodes of it, they usually just keep on watching in the hundreds with no problem.

People are definitely entitled to there opinion and views on the show. Obviously if anyone doesn't like it in the first few episodes, chances are, its not there type of show, plain and simple. I find it kind of annoying how some crazed OP fans try to get others into one piece when in fact there not even shonen fans to begin with.

I also find it funny that people make blatant comments about the show doesn't start getting good untill the 200+ mark No one is going to have the incentive to watch a series that far in before it gets good. People don't understand, if you make a comment like that, your going to turn viewers off.

After watching around 340 episodes my self, i still think that the early arcs are superior to the later ones cause the later arcs are focused on more over used shonen action elements, lots of action and fights and not enough character growth and back stories like the other arcs had. But thats just my opinion. I love good characterization in a show and one piece excels in that department, more then any other shonen series ive seen.



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Watamelon said:
People always say that the people who don't like it never gave it a chance. No one ever mentions the people that DID give it a chance and still didn't like it. That's the category I fall into.


You really sort of miss understood me. I am saying that of the majority of OP fans, people that usually make it past a certain point in the show like 20+ or so, stick with it and actually like it. People that hate the show, usually drops it on the first episode or a couple episodes in and never really gives it a chance. I haven't really seen anyone that actually watched a fair amount of episodes and still end up hating it. This show is just addicting in that way i guess where if people manage to watch 20 episodes of it, they usually just keep on watching in the hundreds with no problem.

People are definitely entitled to there opinion and views on the show. Obviously if anyone doesn't like it in the first few episodes, chances are, its not there type of show, plain and simple. I find it kind of annoying how some crazed OP fans try to get others into one piece when in fact there not even shonen fans to begin with.

I also find it funny that people make blatant comments about the show doesn't start getting good untill the 200+ mark No one is going to have the incentive to watch a series that far in before it gets good. People don't understand, if you make a comment like that, your going to turn viewers off.

After watching around 340 episodes my self, i still think that the early arcs are superior to the later ones cause the later arcs are focused on more over used shonen action elements, lots of action and fights and not enough character growth and back stories like the other arcs had. But thats just my opinion. I love good characterization in a show and one piece excels in that department, more then any other shonen series ive seen.


I have to agree with link with most everything they said. I, myself am a One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach fan and I totally understand when others don't like shows. Even if they only watched one episode. If they don't like how that episode went then they are entitled to their opinion and you shouldn't bash on them for that.

But in the same manner people shouldn't bash on people that like One Piece or any other because it is everyone's right to an opinion.

And I know this might go off topic, but something I don't like is when some of these One Piece fans put down the other shounens. I know it is their opinion to dislike it, but I have heard people go on about how Bleach and Naruto suck because they have so many fillers. Granted I will agree that fillers are annoying but their really isn't anything we can do about them, and it isn't like One Piece doesn't have its own material that isn't cannon. I think if you call a show as 'bad' because it has to many fillers then that is just a sorry excuse. I base the shows worth on the actual content of the cannon material. I could go read the manga but I am just not a manga guy. So my worth of the cannon story goes off the anime and even though it has fillers I still like those shows for the cannon story they put out.

Sorry for the off topic but this just came to mind after reading some of the comments in this forum. But I do agree with everything the above guy said I will stick with them.
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Because people dont have an open mind.

When i first watched this show on tv, i was like "Omg what complete stupidity. He's made of rubber, worray -.- " so i started hating the show, but my friends were always talking about that and i couldnt keep up a conversation with them so i started the show, even though i "hated" it.

I basically knew the history from ep 1-100 cuz of the spoilers i had --' but i was watching and liking it, i guess. When i finished the Alabast Arc I has hooked! The battles were awesome and the story was pretty cool so i continued.

The next arc, "Skypea Arc", was the worse, very very boring until the battles popped up. The story was A-Ok but they longed it too much.

Although that i continued... the best thing that i've ever done. The next arc was/is my favorite! On Episode 210 I got seriously Hooked! Never laughed so much in my life! And the story had so many twists! And I was really loving it!

Today, with One Piece as one of my favorite animes i must say: People on "hate" One Piece because they dont really know what One Piece is, I'm the living proof.

I challenge anyone who read all of this to watch 485 episodes and still say you didnt like it, without lying pls, I'm not here to judge anyone.


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Its like the guys above said,people like to act like like jackasses and drop One Piece after watching an episode or two,while casually grouping it alongside Bleach and Naruto.
Those are "the lot of people who hate One Piece"
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yeah exactly, anyone who drops a show after just the first episode in most cases is most likely turned off by the animation style. its not the story telling, its the funny cartoony character designs that people don't care for. Those people i think are just not giving it a fair chance and do not have a real open mind like others do. Like i said before from my experiences of seeing the fanbase with OP. Almost no one drops the show after seeing like around 30 or so episodes. From that point on, its like point of no return lol.


Hate is a pretty strong word, to hate something you really have to detest it. Alot of people just love being critics, pointing out the pro's and con's of the show. But that does not mean that some one actually hates the series. As stated in this discussion, alot of people that are actual OP fan boys, even gave there opinions and views on the show, including my self. Some people aren't overly huge fanboys and praise it for being the best masterpiece ever with not a single solitary flaw. Because i honestly think since shonens are so long, they do come with some flaws. I mean thats something you just will always have with a long show like one piece.

I have to say out of all the shonens that i have watched personally, one piece is my favorite. I have actually seen a fair amount. Ive seen up to 340 and ive also saw just about the entire WB saga.

Below ill list my personal view and opinion on the shows flaws that i have noticed



For a long long time i gave the series a solid 10. But when i saw the ennies lobby arc, i dropped the score to a 9. I honestly couldn't see why everyone was praising that arc so much. The most interesting thing about that arc was the back story of robin and how the marines got involved with the buster call. But that was only like the last 10 episodes. The rest of the arc was just consecutive battles one after the other and it kind of got tiring to me.

The way a arc is layered in one piece has always really amazed me. Its full of unexpected plot twists and background stories that tie into the central arc, ennies lobby did this as well but it wasn't paced as good as the other arcs i think. For example the skypia saga, was one of my favorite background stories how they introduced norland and calgara. That was just amazing. Then of course the arabasta arc was really great. All the early deep character arcs, like nami's usopp's and sanji's were just marvelous. The water 7 was awesome to. It had lots cool surprising revelations and the arc was centralized around being "mysterious" but when ennies lobby started, it was alot different. Sure there was tons of fights but it became very linear to me and not full of surprises like all the other arcs were. The fights became to one sided, there wasn't enough background story or deep characterization to keep me entertained accept robins, which btw was done amazing. But i think they stretched it out a bit to far for that arc. The manga did alot more justice.

Other things ive noticed is that luffy hasn't really grown in any sort of way over the course of the show. In fact hes gotten worse i think. I remember before in the early arcs, luffy always had that mysterious air about him, very calm and centered. Even though he did things that made him seem stupid, he seemed to always know how to keep things in order. He also had a much more mature appearance and personality then he does now. In the arc im watchign now, the leadership qualities of luffy are still there, there just not recognized as much as they were in the early arcs.

Seriously the animators dumbed down luffy as far as im concerned and turned him into a child like image now. What ever happen to that tall luffy that stands above everyone else with that grin over his face as he looks down at you. That's what i always admired bout luffy, just from his looks and his intense expressions, you would always question rather or not, "who is this guy" there is something more to him then meets the eye. Thats the same impression i get when i look at ace and dragon. But now i don't get that same feeling any more when i watch luffy in action. I hope things change for the better in the thriller bark saga.



In any case, im at the point now where i have to watch the Thriller bark saga next. But ive also read lots of the manga and i know alot of whats going to happen.

Well there is my few gripes bout the show, remember these are my own personal opinions and they shouldn't offend anyone in any way. I still love the show. Im not a "hater" not by any means. I still think the shows good points definitely outweighs the few bad points that i seen and for that it still remains a solid 9/10 rating. Im pretty critical when it comes to rating shows though as ive seen quite alot of anime. But i am not so critical with shonen's that ill give then low scores just because they have filler content. I rate a show based purely on the canon story. I don't include the filler content in my ratings. One pieces fillers are actually pretty good and unique in there own way though.
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1.)Too many quirky people. I think it started to bother me just how many people had eaten the FORBIDDEN devil fruit. When Luffy first eats it, you think, "Man, he can't swim, that's going to make him a bad pirate, but he sure how neat powers now." And you think he's special, and unique, and has some sort of advantage. But no, it seemed like nearly every significant person Luffy and the gang came across had also eaten the forbidden devil fruit and gained magical powers. A lot of the costumes that I saw people wearing too bothered me, such as that guy with the swan garb. I don't know. I can't take that seriously. It irks me, and it puts me off from wanting to see more.


That is just Oda's style, it definitely doesn't appeal to everyone, which is a reasonable reason to dislike a show. It's one of those things that you either like or don't, it can grow on you, but it does take time.

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2.)The story seemed slow. I don't just mean the anime either (because I saw a lot of people talking about a slow story vs. filler). This isn't about filler or how some other anime runs. This is about One Piece and about getting to the point. The manga also seemed like it was dragging. The plot of the story seems to be "Get to the Grand Line and find the One Piece" but it takes 400+ episodes to do this. You know what didn't take 400 episodes and had a similar story? Outlaw Star. They had to travel in space to find the Galactic Leyline to find whatever treasure was there. And let me tell you, space is much larger than a planet. I don't want to commit my time to something that doesn't want to end.


Oda does the the story for a reason, it's because that is how difficult it is to make it to the end of the grand-line. It's not something easy, or a quick journey. It's meant to be long and painful. It's not something just anyone can do. It takes patience and a long time. The pacing of the story becomes much more clear once you understand this fact, and it grows on you, you come to appreciate it.

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3.)The story seemed to revolve too much. Other people have said it, but I agree with it


A series such as One Piece evolves, especially since it's been going on so long. While this is most certainly the formula in the beginning, it chances pretty quickly. It becomes less a focus on Luffy(Expect the arc in the anime right now) and more on the crew working together. Oda does a pretty good job showing just how much Luffy needs his crew.


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This one also gets me. If you can't have a good episode by 155, then you're doing something seriously wrong.


While the series gets really good around episode 30 or so. If you don't like it by 155 then you just don't like One Piece, and it's sadly probably because of the style and it's distraction. Anyone who watches through Nami's backstory and calls it "bad" probably don't know enough to de-construct that.
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I used to be one of those who disliked one piece and never gave it a try. But After seeing the really bad dubs on Foxkids, I just had to wash my eyes with the original. And Man I was glad I did, One Piece has become one of those shows I just love, for their world, their characters, their stories, action, comedy, adventure. everything about this series has proven to be amazing.
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Personally, I think it's because of topics like this. I just skimmed the early pages out of curiosity. I was immediately unsurprised that people threw bitch fits when one user happened to link this http://www.baka-raptor.com/2009/08/01/three-strikes-for-one-piece/

Immediately responded with stupidity. OP fanbase has this bizarre victimization complex, like if you didn't really dig the series, and you happen to be a little vocal about it. Fanboys will just go on and on about how you're a close-minded idiot for not appreciating the modern day masterpiece that is One Piece. It's obnoxious.

I'm actually watching a little bit of OP myself, and I'm starting to warm up to it. But I can understand how it's an acquired taste for many that aren't 13-16 years old.


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First of all, yes, we all have right to hate or love an anime and we also have different tastes. So I respect all of the lovers and haters, they have their own points. Personally, I LOVE One Piece. I've been watching it I think for a decade now and still loving it.

One Piece haters must be against the "friendship thing" here? that makes it a bit childish. BUT actually, I love the friendship in this anime. They have one of the deepest friendship I've ever watched and also the story of each crew members are just awesome. Yeah, maybe One Piece can be childish sometimes but that became an asset for me.Because their reasons, for example to fight, has a deep meaning. Not a lousy one to the other animes out there.

The art - some hated it. But actually, It was okay with me(at the start). But as it goes on, the art became from okay status to great status that contains uniqueness.

Some hate SUPER long anime/manga. I also have trouble to start watching very long anime because I hate dropping an anime but I hate watching long and bad anime more. but One Piece is an exception. As it goes on, the story goes deeper, the impossible several conflicts happen and the twists become great to the point that I can't predict the next flow of the story. Simply put, it is addicting and you will not want it to end.

Well, it is a fact that as the story goes on the story became more and more exciting and awesome. It has great humor, but sometimes you will cry to the story. To put it simply, it became epic.

One thing is for sure, when more and more people became a fan, the number of haters will also increase. It always happen.=)
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First of all, yes, we all have right to hate or love an anime and we also have different tastes. So I respect all of the lovers and haters, they have their own points. Personally, I LOVE One Piece. I've been watching it I think for a decade now and still loving it.

One Piece haters must be against the "friendship thing" here? that makes it a bit childish. BUT actually, I love the friendship in this anime. They have one of the deepest friendship I've ever watched and also the story of each crew members are just awesome. Yeah, maybe One Piece can be childish sometimes but that became an asset for me.Because their reasons, for example to fight, has a deep meaning. Not a lousy one to the other animes out there.

The art - some hated it. But actually, It was okay with me(at the start). But as it goes on, the art became from okay status to great status that contains uniqueness.

Some hate SUPER long anime/manga. I also have trouble to start watching very long anime because I hate dropping an anime but I hate watching long and bad anime more. but One Piece is an exception. As it goes on, the story goes deeper, the impossible several conflicts happen and the twists become great to the point that I can't predict the next flow of the story. Simply put, it is addicting and you will not want it to end.

Well, it is a fact that as the story goes on the story became more and more exciting and awesome. It has great humor, but sometimes you will cry to the story. To put it simply, it became epic.

One thing is for sure, when more and more people became a fan, the number of haters will also increase. It always happen.=)


I know what you mean, I must have shedded tons of tears while watching this. I really enjoy the growth of the characters aswell. The way the characters bond, Luffy's attitude to people. Ussops Tenancity, Zoros determination to stick to his path. Sanji's Chivalry, Choppers Principles. Each and everyone of them have such strong back stories aswell. And when you find out how things are linked, It really draws you in more.

The adventure itself really brings back some of the good old creativness of what anime is for me, Different worlds that excite you.

The lack of fillers is always plus, when you compare it to Others like Naruto and Bleach. even Detective Conan (Which when it gets to the main Plot is just awesome).

The whole Friendship and brother hood thing really gets to you. The rivalry that develops. everything so far has completely gotten to me. There are rarely moments I dislike in One Piece. If I had to say one, It would not be the story, but the editing of the tv show. with the Long 3-4 Minute summary of last weeks episode.
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I'm wondering why even this thread is made, since One Piece haters only exist in western anime fanbase...... Every Japanese reads One Piece, regardless of gender and age.I know how it is read by every single fuckin Korean friends I know IRL, when they are dropping other shonen mangas like Naruto, Bleach or Hitman Reborn.

There is no need for complain. One Piece sits too high anyway.
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Ok have been watching this anime for quite sometime..in fact started it before Bleach and Naruto and believe me even if I am still watching it I am still not into it.
The fans of this series will never accept that the story moves s l o w l y..really S L O W L Y ..skipped many episodes in between 300 to 400 but barely missed anything where as if someone loses track in Naruto or Bleach or any other series they can't understand what the hell is going on there.
That been said Boa Hancock is the best character in One Piece.
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I dont hate One piece....but I dont like that anime...is just that...idk I dont like animes like one piece,Naruto,Bleach...cus are too long for me ;)

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The first time I've watched One Piece is on television. I've watched the first 20 episodes or so then they stopped airing it for some unknown reason. Believe it or not I actually like it, the whole concept was very attractive and fun. I didn't even mind the art since it's looks like almost every cartoon back then (Ed, Edd and Eddy; Cow and Chicken, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Dragon Ball Z, Rurouni Kenshin, etc.)

Last year I've picked up One Piece and started watching the show from the start, to my surprise the show was still airing after 6-7 years. I was like "wtf this isn't over yet? LOL"
Obviously I grew up older so I don't really like cartoonish stuff anymore and HD quality practically ruined anime for me.

The real surprise is that One Piece was actually the most popular anime in (the history) of Japan; or maybe the manga, I'm not sure. Anyway I wasn't even aware of that for me it was another fun action anime. That was really a shock so I've decided to watch it in parallel with Naruto and Bleach. I dropped Bleach because it's practically crap and it's still airing because producers are milking the franchise and Naruto Shippuden is a disgrace to Naruto (anime).

So far, I've reached episode ~275 in One Piece and I can tell why people hate it:

Some characters are seriously retarded as characters and the way they are drawn, some example would be those the guy who can read your mind in Skypia arc or the noddle cock in the CP9 train arc, these kinds of thing can ruin anime for someone of my age. I can understand people hating it just for that.

Some arcs I say to myself : God, when is it gonna ever end (Skypia,Season 8[Galley-la or however you spell it, CP9 in the train, etc]) other arcs : Wow, magnificent... (Arabasta,The past of all the main characters,the comedy is one of the best I've ever watched)

Sometimes I hate the lack of logic and realism, but I'll probably get used to it.
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I think One piece is good, but it’s nothing over that. It can in fact get repetitive with fights that have the exact same pattern. I feel that oda has a need to give every straw-hat a sad past in some way, I thought Luffy was the exception for a while and he threw the piece of shit arc with Sabo on to us. That being said I think the series has some strong points like the vast world, the side characters, the island etc.

The real thing people hate about one piece is the “die hard” fans. They can’t help to bring up One piece in other manga/anime discussions, like “Hurr Oda would do that so much better” or “lololol emo” trolling aside, some of them are just that retarded.

Last but least, everyone has a different taste in anime and manga. And people on both sides can’t deal with that, the One piece defense squad gets butt-hurt and the haters get butt-hurt. The only real winners are the trolls.
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^Sabo is just kicking ass with Dragon.. as he saved him at that incident..

and hey.. 600+chapters.. you cant get 'non-repetitive' fights sometimes..its a shounen afterall..
though in every ark he tries to make them always different.. look at luffy's fights for example..
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^Sabo is just kicking ass with Dragon.. as he saved him at that incident..

and hey.. 600+chapters.. you cant get 'non-repetitive' fights sometimes..its a shounen afterall..
though in every ark he tries to make them always different.. look at luffy's fights for example..


I'm not talking about some fights.

Zoro is a prime example of booring fights. He always ends up in a bad spot just to pull out some new move, every single fight. The only good fight he's ever had was vs Hawkeye, and then he got stomped so bad. All the other fights you just know what's going to happen. You don't do that with luffy.

I don't have anything against Odas fights or the setup for them, with the exception of zoros, those fights are just shit. Then again, i don't really care for zoro at all.
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Its drawn horrible
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Ok i know people have diffrent tastes and such but u know this anime is really go- no wait..calling it an anime compared to most of the shit that comes out is an insult :P ok lets go with treasure,anways It Makes you feel the dream of the chars and its a very long Adventures anime with good chars and better enjoyment than most of the others.

Some people might also say ''its too long'' haha....Belive me , youll be wishing for more episodes once u reach The arabasta arc

Look ill tell u this , no matter wat ure reason is , if ure even free wondering ''Wat anime should i watch next'' Go watch it,if u didnt like ep 1 , continue up until 4-8 eps ,if u dont like it ,n continue , but wait if u cant stand it ,drop it


There will always be haters, with every show. But a lot of people really love this show too. You can see One Piece being ranked higher and higher here on MAL. By the time One piece ends it will probably be on top!!
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