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Apr 18, 2014 7:15 PM
#61
Soren333 said: And I don't see how you manipulated her with this intellectual gap. Maybe you can explain some more. Because here's how I see it from what you've told me so far. You're helping her with calculus because she needs the help and you know calculus. I don't see how this translates into manipulating her. I didn't directly manipulate her as much as I manipulated situations. Like early on, when we barely knew each other, she wanted to study earlier, and I would make up excuses so that we would meet up a bit later to give myself more optimal opportunities. This was back when I saw her only for her physical beauty. I would tell my roommates to scram, so I would be alone with her. I guess what I am trying to say is that initially, I was trying to use everything in my advantage to get into "her pants". The kiss happened due to my cunning manipulation of words. She started opening up to me, and I would say the "right" things, instead of the 'natural' things, and ended up getting a kiss for it. Obviously, she had to be slightly attracted to me for that to happen, but I felt, at the time, that though she poured her heart out to me, I wasn't genuine. Kinda of felt repulsed at myself, and didn't speak or hang with her for several weeks. Took me some time to recover, and then I realized that I actually did like her, and not just for her cheerleader form. Soren333 said: Doesn't matter. From what I've read, despite the fact that you're the "A" student, and she's the "popular" girl, sh Again. Here you have to ask yourself. Do you care about your relationship with the girl more, or do you care about what other's think more? Hope this helps you out bro. Long story short, if you like her, and you get the feeling that she likes you too, go for it. Don't let others deter you from going out with a girl that can potentially become your future life partner. yeah, dude, you're absolutely correct. I'm definitely will be asking her out. I should just possibly be prepared for the swarm of football players that will try to knock me out..but she is worth a thousand concussions maybe me ranting about the allegory of the cave to them will calm their nerves? Anyway, thanks for the advice mate. This thread was helpful, another thing is that though I live in the States, I'm not a native so sometimes I get confused with the difference in social views and whatnot, so I really wanted to know about this 'league' stuff. Now I know that it's mostly baloney. |
The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion. -Albert Camus |
Apr 18, 2014 7:53 PM
#62
ever notice successful, attractive men have hot random wives, and gorgeous successful women often choose ugly, older, highly intelligent men? thats b/c i really think that women value intellect and deserved success more than appearance look at padma lakshmi - she married salman rushdie? wow. catherine zeta jones - she married michael douglas. age is not a matter so much. personality, great success, they take over smart chicks, smart choice |
Apr 18, 2014 8:03 PM
#63
There's this one spicy Portuguese/Brazilian woman who goes to my college & drives a Range. Obviously, she's out of my league, but how can I win? She keeps draggin' me in, and I know I... never will be good enough for her. |
Konbu is important |
Apr 18, 2014 9:32 PM
#64
Short answer is yes A girl can most definitely be out of your league, but it has nothing to do with what you like to do. Women like very confident, well dressed, successful/highly motivated. Being a gentleman is always a plus no matter what anyone says. Just don't go overboard with it. All these contribute to making you the strongest version of yourself, and if you are not into that stuff then most desirable women will always be out of your league. (and you'll be cheating yourself out of a great life) |
Apr 18, 2014 11:24 PM
#66
Pralando said: That's why I have trained my teddy bear to be a master assassin.RandomChampion said: btw what's a bed lurker that sounds mad shady....im interested You break into people's house, hide under their bed and when they fall asleep you... steal their teddy bear But yes, it is possible for someone to be out of your league. For example, a woman who is a lesbian. Another type of ball game entirely. |
Apr 18, 2014 11:46 PM
#67
Jackrabb1t said: Pralando said: That's why I have trained my teddy bear to be a master assassin.RandomChampion said: btw what's a bed lurker that sounds mad shady....im interested You break into people's house, hide under their bed and when they fall asleep you... steal their teddy bear But yes, it is possible for someone to be out of your league. For example, a woman who is a lesbian. Another type of ball game entirely. I think there's a better word to represent that than "out of your league". |
Apr 18, 2014 11:49 PM
#68
only in the sense that you might not even be able to meet them thanks to the social divide. |
Apr 19, 2014 6:48 AM
#69
yogotah said: I didn't directly manipulate her as much as I manipulated situations. Like early on, when we barely knew each other, she wanted to study earlier, and I would make up excuses so that we would meet up a bit later to give myself more optimal opportunities. This was back when I saw her only for her physical beauty. I would tell my roommates to scram, so I would be alone with her. I guess what I am trying to say is that initially, I was trying to use everything in my advantage to get into "her pants". The kiss happened due to my cunning manipulation of words. She started opening up to me, and I would say the "right" things, instead of the 'natural' things, and ended up getting a kiss for it. Obviously, she had to be slightly attracted to me for that to happen, but I felt, at the time, that though she poured her heart out to me, I wasn't genuine. Kinda of felt repulsed at myself, and didn't speak or hang with her for several weeks. Took me some time to recover, and then I realized that I actually did like her, and not just for her cheerleader form. Right I see now. Yh I definitely understand you. I can see why you're repulsed from the kiss. But I think, everything that you did was actually kind of normal. It's normal to get into the pants of a really hot girl. I definitely won't blame you for doing this, especially since you didn't do anything significantly bad. But when you manipulated the kiss by saying the right things instead of the natural things. In your head, were you thinking something like "I don't about what this chick is saying, I'm just going to say things to make her feel better so maybe I can get a sympathy kiss". Or were you thinking of something like this "Damn boy, this hot chick is opening up to me, and I do really care about her issues and feelings but I also want a kiss, so I'm going to say things to make her feel better". I think the distinction that I'm trying to draw is. Did you mean the things that you said that lead to the kiss? Or did you ONLY say these things to get a kiss? But hey, even if you did manipulate her at first, it doesn't mean that you can't develop true feelings for her. Which I think, and hope you have, otherwise you wouldn't be making this thread. yogotah said: yeah, dude, you're absolutely correct. I'm definitely will be asking her out. I should just possibly be prepared for the swarm of football players that will try to knock me out..but she is worth a thousand concussions maybe me ranting about the allegory of the cave to them will calm their nerves? Anyway, thanks for the advice mate. This thread was helpful, another thing is that though I live in the States, I'm not a native so sometimes I get confused with the difference in social views and whatnot, so I really wanted to know about this 'league' stuff. Now I know that it's mostly baloney. Yeah bro, glad that you're manning up to your feelings and taking the initiative to ask the girl out. "but she is worth a thousand concussions" bro that's cute :3 And not in a bad way. But yeah, you're welcome, glad I've helped. And I'm glad that you've realized that this "out of your league" stuff is a bunch of baloney. |
Apr 19, 2014 7:11 AM
#70
this term doesnt exist, especially if you have confidence in who you are. |
Apr 19, 2014 7:19 AM
#71
yogotah said: I'm definitely will be asking her out. I should just possibly be prepared for the swarm of football players that will try to knock me out..but she is worth a thousand concussions Hahaha that's too cute dude. Good Luck! |
Apr 19, 2014 8:33 AM
#72
Apr 19, 2014 8:34 AM
#73
angrygirl said: confidence isn't going to get you close to obama's daughters.this term doesnt exist, especially if you have confidence in who you are. |
Apr 19, 2014 8:41 AM
#74
Heredity said: angrygirl said: confidence isn't going to get you close to obama's daughters.this term doesnt exist, especially if you have confidence in who you are. Couldn't you find a better example? I'd have problems accepting a mass murderer as my father in law. |
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Apr 19, 2014 8:43 AM
#75
Fuck that "out of your league" shit. OP, take what's yours in the world. Remember, that girl you like belongs to you and you only. If she rejects you, it's her with the problems. You wanna get with top-grade pussy? You gotta work to get there. Good luck brah |
Apr 19, 2014 8:46 AM
#76
No. There's no such thing as social superiority, but it can be possible that a person is not interested in someone else. I suggest you ignore what other people say and ask her out. |
Apr 19, 2014 9:14 AM
#77
Shiratori99 said: what makes you think he'll even be an option as a father-in-law? you couldn't even get within 50 feet of their dog, lol.Heredity said: angrygirl said: confidence isn't going to get you close to obama's daughters.this term doesnt exist, especially if you have confidence in who you are. Couldn't you find a better example? I'd have problems accepting a mass murderer as my father in law. |
Apr 19, 2014 7:35 PM
#78
Nvortex said: Fuck that "out of your league" shit. OP, take what's yours in the world. Remember, that girl you like belongs to you and you only. If she rejects you, it's her with the problems. You wanna get with top-grade pussy? You gotta work to get there. Good luck brah Getting rejected is gonna be your problem for a while. |
Apr 19, 2014 7:36 PM
#79
If you're ugly, there is nothing you can do. |
Apr 19, 2014 9:01 PM
#80
Not really. Hot girl? Go to the gym MILF? Stop acting immature Barely legal? Make sure you have a stable source of income Rich? Make sure you don't suck in bed Famous? Same as above |
Apr 19, 2014 9:07 PM
#81
Yes it clearly is possible for example; super models are in Division 1. Whereas I am trying it with these wannabe instagram models all the way in Division 3 maybe if I get a major financial boost one day I can be in Division 1. |
Apr 20, 2014 5:12 AM
#82
"Leagues" are generally based off of appearance and the OP did say "your league" so no, I'm fucking gorgeous. |
Immahnoob said: They say Jesus walked on water. People are made out of 79% water. I can walk on people. So I am 79% Jesus. Sourire said: I once fucked an apple pie. |
Apr 20, 2014 5:20 AM
#83
TheArchangles982 said: "Leagues" are generally based off of appearance and the OP did say "your league" so no, I'm fucking gorgeous. Sometimes it's more in terms of how outgoing a person is. If I know someone has met 50 times more people than I, I would really have to be exceptional to leave some kind of an impression on her. Not really sure where to take that kind of confidence from. |
If you generalize, you're wrong. |
Apr 20, 2014 5:29 AM
#84
sedmelluq said: TheArchangles982 said: "Leagues" are generally based off of appearance and the OP did say "your league" so no, I'm fucking gorgeous. Sometimes it's more in terms of how outgoing a person is. If I know someone has met 50 times more people than I, I would really have to be exceptional to leave some kind of an impression on her. Not really sure where to take that kind of confidence from. I'm basing it purely off of the appearance factor which is the most commonly used base. What you're basing off of is what I consider the second part; actually getting the guy/girl but whether they're in your league in the first place or not is generally based on appearance. |
Immahnoob said: They say Jesus walked on water. People are made out of 79% water. I can walk on people. So I am 79% Jesus. Sourire said: I once fucked an apple pie. |
Apr 20, 2014 5:43 AM
#85
Yogotah, with you being a geek in a jock's body, this is in my opinion the ultimate male. The issue is not one of league - why, from what I see you and her are matched quite well and evenly, albeit in different ways. What does seem to be an issue is that you hang around in different cliques. You may be thinking that she's got higher social status because of the whole jock/cheerleader/drinker group thing, but from a overview, it's more that her friends aren't your friends as yet. Maybe start hanging out with her friends and see how it goes? Also, I might have missed it, but have you "confessed"? If so, how did she respond? |
Apr 20, 2014 6:14 AM
#86
She can't be 'out of your league'. She can be 'not your type' or 'socially incompatible' though. You can always try talking to her, if you haven't before, or try to get to know her more to see if she really is THE one. You could be 'out of HER league' as you guys so eloquently say, considering you watch anime, which automatically makes you superior. Of course, that's assuming this girl doesn't watch anime herself. |
Apr 20, 2014 12:52 PM
#87
I feel like someone "out of your league" is just your mind saying to yourself how you aren't good enough when it's normally not true, or you just say it because you don't want to approach them. All it really comes down to is confidence, like lets say you approach the person who is "out of your league" and are a bit scared to and don't look as if you are confident in yourself, then it might actually come true as first impressions are very hard to change for a majority of people. I feel like it really depends on the people and how much you are willing to do. |
Apr 20, 2014 1:10 PM
#88
I think it's a pretty stupid thing to have. One of my friends recently said to another friend "My girlfriend was saying that if you were better looking, you could go out with her best friend." It just seems cruel to judge people primarily based on things such as appearance, something, which for the most part, is not controllable. |
Apr 20, 2014 1:15 PM
#89
Not really. The handsome cute and seemingly "out of league" girl or guy at school or work might actually just be a nice and shy person who doesn't care too much for looks in a partner and values character and common interests the most. You never know until you talk to them. That is literally all it takes to know. |
Apr 20, 2014 6:44 PM
#90
Valpaul said: Yogotah, with you being a geek in a jock's body, this is in my opinion the ultimate male. The issue is not one of league - why, from what I see you and her are matched quite well and evenly, albeit in different ways. What does seem to be an issue is that you hang around in different cliques. You may be thinking that she's got higher social status because of the whole jock/cheerleader/drinker group thing, but from a overview, it's more that her friends aren't your friends as yet. Maybe start hanging out with her friends and see how it goes? Yeah, most of my analysis was partly for our social gaps, in terms of physicality we may be compatible. I'm 6ft 7inches tall, used to be a star basketball player in high school, not buff at all, but have an athletic fit body. She's the pretty face, vivacious, and cheerleader form body. I'm not the best looking guy, but if you saw us walking together at a mall, there wouldn't be any second glances. We do hang in different circles. This is mostly due to me being aware of who my friends really are. The group of guys encouraging me to skip class to smoke weren't really my friends, the other group that encouraged me to do homework with them before watching anime, or playing chess are my real friends. However, in the social game, I picked the wrong group, and have been ostracized by association. I don't care though, I love my friends to death. I don't think I want to fit in with that 'group' again, this girl is different and unique, but her friends are stereotypical. Also, I might have missed it, but have you "confessed"? If so, how did she respond? I haven't seen her yet, since we are in Easter holidays. I didn't want to go the route of just blatantly saying " Uhh..I think I like you." But we only have a couple weeks left into the semester, so I don't have time for elegance, I'll have to just tell her as soon as the opportunity arises. |
The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion. -Albert Camus |
Apr 21, 2014 1:30 AM
#91
I reckon that even though the friend incompatibility thing is a bit of a difficulty, it shouldn't affect the relationship between you and her. Because in the end, the relationship is not defined by either your friends or hers, it's defined by *you* (and her). Have her friends been very overt about what they think of you? From what I see, they're probably not against you personally, but are just a bit wary or awkward about things that they don't really know much about (I.e. Different interests, etc). Also, in the social game, I don't think you've picked the wrong group at all - they're your friends and you belong, and that's what matters. Possibly her friends are a bit iffy about it all because you haven't yet gone with the next step and have the bf/gf relationship. At this stage they may just see you as one of her "other" friends which they can't easily find common ground with. The route of an outright "confession" might seem really blatant and direct, but you don't want to be trapped in the kind of stasis that so often slows these kinds of relationships. From what you've told us, it seems that she likely does have feelings for you. Make the next step, and don't look back! |
Apr 25, 2014 5:37 PM
#92
Update: Will be going on a date with her next week. She seemed rather pleased with me asking. |
The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion. -Albert Camus |
Apr 30, 2014 12:58 PM
#94
You watch anime, right? Have you ever seen Accel World? Yeah. That's how it goes. You can seriously date anybody you want. Nobody is out of your league. You can change someone's perspective of you just by talking to them more and actually becoming their friend. I can tell you that's how I've reversed so many situations in my case. We both agree from the beginning that we're both in the friend zone, but that changes as we talk more and more. I don't consider myself "attractive", but when there's someone I may have interest in, I try anyways. Leagues don't exist. There's only those who will talk to you, and those who are shallow enough to turn you away. EDIT: Just saw your update. Way to go!!!! |
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit. |
Apr 30, 2014 1:14 PM
#95
Everyone is simultaneously out of my league and im out of theirs. |
Apr 30, 2014 5:16 PM
#96
Soren333 said: Any more updates OP? The date with the girl is on Friday! However, I kinda of cheated and was able to hang out with her on Monday before our schedule date. She's big on running, and I was running too, and just happen to see her. I didn't think I should approach her, or in this case, increase my speed to match hers since girls are usually wary of guys being around when they are sweating etc... But I didn't care and caught up with her anyway. Had a great talk about cars, music, and science. We're both in the science field, so we had a blast talking about that. A pretty good indication of how Friday will be, hopefully. I probably will have to tell her that I like her. |
The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion. -Albert Camus |
May 1, 2014 9:09 PM
#97
i hope she doesn't betray you like some people i have dated |
May 1, 2014 10:49 PM
#98
yogotah said: Update: Will be going on a date with her next week. She seemed rather pleased with me asking. Fantastic! I wish you the utmost luck on your rendezvous with her on Friday! |
May 1, 2014 10:51 PM
#99
Rendezvous sounds a lot cooler than date. |
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