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Sep 17, 2009 7:35 AM

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lrv3646 said:
This anime would have been more enjoyable if I had watched all the episodes at once. It was so complex and had so much going on that it was hard to follow.


i agree with this. i was really lost many times throughout the series and i wish it could have been a clearer story line. i wasn't really a fan of the ending. mostly because it seemed kinda rushed. the big 'final boss battle' was like 2 minutes long. the best part was karin and miiko. i tended to like karin the best. overall it was decent. 9/10 maybe...

oh! and where was the kunihitoxkuniko i've been waiting for the entire series for?! maybe that will bring my rating for this show down. i had high hopes for some kind of 'not just friends' interaction from kuniko. gah! annoying.

 
Sep 17, 2009 10:26 AM

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I enjoyed all the anime of Shangri-la - the characters too especially Karin (she is very cute with her hair down *-*). Gonzo did a good job !
But, it's pity that this ending is too easy and quick... In my opinion, 26 episodes would be better than 24 episodes to have a good conclusion.

I tought i will give it 9/10, but with this ending, i prefer 8/10. It's really pity because i liked very much this show. =O


 
Sep 17, 2009 1:08 PM

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Don't know if it's only me but with Kuniko's power boost she got from taking the spear (enormous speed and raw power to swing that big thing easely) I was expecting a more epic fight against Zeus, with cannon, gun and everything but we got a cheap end for Zeus.


I really liked the anime but the end wasn't that good imo. 3/5
 
Sep 17, 2009 9:21 PM

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interesting series and concept but the ending kinda sucked.... 6/10
 
Sep 17, 2009 9:28 PM

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Sadly, this is one of the better Gonzo endings off the top of my head. That said, it is still a mind-bogglingly thoughtless and simple conclusion to a complicated story, and thus, I didn't feel a bit satisfied. Everything just felt too lame and too childish (except for maybe Mi-ko talking to Mikuni). They leave Kuniko and Kunihito totally unresolved, and kill Takehiko because he pretty much shouldn't have been in the show at all.

The show could have been a 9, but the middle was too slow and didn't go anywhere. It could have been an 8, but the end was too slow and didn't go anywhere. Basically, the show stands on a great concept, exposition, and development with Mikuni, but barely passes or fails everywhere else. I give it a 7/10.
 
Sep 17, 2009 10:21 PM

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noteDhero said:
Sadly, this is one of the better Gonzo endings off the top of my head. That said, it is still a mind-bogglingly thoughtless and simple conclusion to a complicated story, and thus, I didn't feel a bit satisfied. Everything just felt too lame and too childish (except for maybe Mi-ko talking to Mikuni). They leave Kuniko and Kunihito totally unresolved, and kill Takehiko because he pretty much shouldn't have been in the show at all.

The show could have been a 9, but the middle was too slow and didn't go anywhere. It could have been an 8, but the end was too slow and didn't go anywhere. Basically, the show stands on a great concept, exposition, and development with Mikuni, but barely passes or fails everywhere else. I give it a 7/10.


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Sep 18, 2009 4:08 AM

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noteDhero said:
Sadly, this is one of the better Gonzo endings off the top of my head. That said, it is still a mind-bogglingly thoughtless and simple conclusion to a complicated story, and thus, I didn't feel a bit satisfied. Everything just felt too lame and too childish (except for maybe Mi-ko talking to Mikuni). They leave Kuniko and Kunihito totally unresolved, and kill Takehiko because he pretty much shouldn't have been in the show at all.

The show could have been a 9, but the middle was too slow and didn't go anywhere. It could have been an 8, but the end was too slow and didn't go anywhere. Basically, the show stands on a great concept, exposition, and development with Mikuni, but barely passes or fails everywhere else. I give it a 7/10.
Rarely, I agree with you too but that seems fair.

I definitely agree that this was one of the better GONZO endings. (But nearly anything is better than Linebarrels)
 
Sep 18, 2009 5:50 AM

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best part of the ep
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lrv3646 said:
This anime would have been more enjoyable if I had watched all the episodes at once.

I agree with that

I bonus point for the opening and one for Karin.
I admit some episodes, esspecially in the first half of the show, but after that the quality of the plot dropped 6/10
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Sep 18, 2009 8:11 AM

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if kuniko and kunihito had at least held hands, i would give it a 8/10 instead of a 7/10
 
Sep 18, 2009 9:10 AM

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garfield15 said:
Rarely, I agree with you too but that seems fair.

I definitely agree that this was one of the better GONZO endings. (But nearly anything is better than Linebarrels)


I think Druaga is the worst in recent memory...especially since it was a decent to good show, and just slowly depreciated every week.
 
Sep 18, 2009 11:29 AM

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It's finally over. At first, i find it hard to like this anime due to it's complexity, but after episode 12 things starded getting interesting with Karin, Kuniko, Mikuni even also with Kunihito. A great anime with a complex plot and enviromental science, politics and even economy.

What i waited the whole series is showing Zhang !! he finally shows up with Klaris, i really curious what do he looks like. Also what dissapoint me is they couldn't show Kunihito-Kuniko pairing ending which i waited since the beginning of the series. Well, a pretty much okay anime by GONZO. At least better than that crappy linebarrel lol
 
Sep 19, 2009 5:41 AM

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Woah, epic entrance is epic xD
Let's see then what this episode has in store : D
Ryoko's as despicable as always xD
Soichiro's one sly character too xD

Wieeee Medusa : 3 Although Medusa seems to.. uuh.. It's cute ^^ Naaaw Medusa drowned : (

Fick yeah, Awesome fight, although a bit short : /
Kuniko goes into hypermode xD

The return of Sayoko, the never-dying aide of Mikuni xD

Awesome! A huge boomerang, can it get more awesome! : D

Lol Soichiro was owned by Takehiko : D (or actually by those whatever-they're-called plants ^^)

Awesome fight Kuniko vs. Zeus : D

And Mikuni suddenly got normal eyes, thanks to Mi-ko's spirit, and her horrible powers were removed too.

I'm also happy for Karin, getting to meet Zhang and Klaris in person, and Medusa being reborn (yay ٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶) Now they can rebuild their fortunes once again wohoo ^^

And the huge boomerang was really cool : p

I'm not sure... this ending, kinda increases the awesomeness of this series a whole lot, maybe I'll give it a 9 instead of 8/10? O.o But.. compared to other stuff I've given 9... Nah 8 is just fine, it's a really good score actually ^^

And we get the only time Ever in the series that someone actually says "Shangri-La" xD
...wait, the Doumo clocktower is still there?O.o

Edit: Oh and btw, this last episode was clearly a 5/5 : 3
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Sep 19, 2009 8:12 AM

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noteDhero said:
I think Druaga is the worst in recent memory...especially since it was a decent to good show, and just slowly depreciated every week.
F*ck that ending.


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Sep 19, 2009 11:01 AM

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9Tale said:
The last handful of episodes were downright terrible, culminating in this disgusting mess of GONZO Finale.


Absolutly. High quality animation was all this series had, and it can't make up for a mess of a story. 7 out of 10
 
Sep 20, 2009 10:43 AM

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Siva said:
noteDhero said:
I think Druaga is the worst in recent memory...especially since it was a decent to good show, and just slowly depreciated every week.
F*ck that ending.


Lol I don't even remember it (Tower of Druaga ending)

Other than the fact that this series is messed up with physics-defying fights and weapon use (how can Kuniko wield a boomerang that big? Himiko powers maybe?) and with convoluted mysticism as someone pointed out, the concept is original. It could have been a LOT better than this...because the script look like one written by an elementary student (very energetic, a lot of random stuffs happening, not very coherent, etc)

8/10 for now because I enjoyed some episodes. And yes the ratings have gone up and I'm more satisfied with the current ratings....
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Sep 20, 2009 11:33 AM

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wakka9ca said:
Lol I don't even remember it (Tower of Druaga ending)

Other than the fact that this series is messed up with physics-defying fights and weapon use (how can Kuniko wield a boomerang that big? Himiko powers maybe?) and with convoluted mysticism as someone pointed out, the concept is original. It could have been a LOT better than this...because the script look like one written by an elementary student (very energetic, a lot of random stuffs happening, not very coherent, etc)

8/10 for now because I enjoyed some episodes. And yes the ratings have gone up and I'm more satisfied with the current ratings....

Well you don't have to remember it either so that you can have some good taste of the series.

I agree with you and the others that they could have done it better with the concept they had. And yeah, I enjoyed some episodes a lot, specially the one that they get all the prison girls killed.


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Sep 21, 2009 7:43 AM

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7/10

A bit cheap in the ending there Gonzo, bringing back I think 3 characters that should have been dead.

Otherwise I liked the ending.

Why a 7, too many stupid plot twist and went too far into the happy ending(I liked the Miko bit though)
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Sep 26, 2009 5:56 AM

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It'd rate it 6/10
 
Sep 26, 2009 8:31 PM

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Siva said:

I agree with you and the others that they could have done it better with the concept they had. And yeah, I enjoyed some episodes a lot, specially the one that they get all the prison girls killed.


Agree that the prison episode was one of the more impactful ones. Their deaths really hit me hard, and made me hate the bitch with the painted face even more.

Pity that the later tearjerking moments didn't work for me; I was too busy trying to figure out (as someone else pointed out) the messy mystic crap.

Killing children to stabilise a building? Plastering people with used toilet paper to possess them? What?

7/10 on account of the awesome first half of the show

 
Sep 27, 2009 1:18 PM

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9Tale said:
The last handful of episodes were downright terrible, culminating in this disgusting mess of GONZO Finale.

I think tried hard with it, resulting into ending the series in a rush.
They prolly couldn't think of any other way to end the series. -shrugs-
But who knows?

It was a good start, but this ending is 'fail', for me.
I guess Gonzo can pull something better next time. I'm hoping for that. And that next time, I sure hope one episode doesn't end up congested like the last episodes of this one.
Over all, the series had good character design, good plot, good start, good music and it had potential and it especially had a lovely cast of voice-actors.
What brought it down was the failed execution and how the last few episodes ended up being stuffed with all the other unanswered info; it could've been better... oh well.

I give it an 8/10.
I would've gave it a 9, but something inside of me tells me to give it an 8 instead.
But I enjoyed the series either way.


 
Sep 30, 2009 1:23 AM

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What the F**K was that S**T?!
Long live Deus Ex Machina!
Look like producers were screw, not able to find a good way to end it, and put EVERY SINGLE S**T THEY THOUGH OFF DURING BRAINSTORMING IN ONE, ONLY ONE, POOR, LITTLE AND LONELY EPISODE!
An miserable mistake. God.

And since when did programs started breeding? Someone should had told me! i'll be running for my life!

The show overall was acceptable, the second half much more boring though... Last arc was the worst, it was rush and had so many non-sensical things...
Giving it 5.5/10 (will be rounded to 6/10... even if i feel it's to much)
 
Oct 4, 2009 6:17 PM

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so ryoko gets whats coming to her, medusa is stopped, karin gets a new family, miko uses transexual magic to cure mikuni and kuniko saves the day and plans to make shangri-la, fin
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Oct 9, 2009 12:32 AM

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5/10 I can't believe they took an interesting concept and drove it under piles and piles of shock "entertainment", convoluted plots and unexplainable events that challenge any kind of logic, be it real or anime.

I just can't believe how the ones who began the mess to begin with had the balls to go "oh, we will help, we created Ryoko and the whole system that sacrificed HUMAN LIVES just to keep a building flying", and then the good guys who were so taken aback by the actions of Atlas before, just let them go like that. Come on, at least yell at them, show some kind of hate. Just because they stopped that little incident doesn't means the whole world is white now. God, what a moronic happy ending.

Well, there goes another crappy show.

 
Oct 10, 2009 6:10 AM

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Horrible ending to an utterly mediocre series. Also, I have to completely agree with Leon-Gun, on almost all accounts.

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Oct 22, 2009 10:58 AM

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8/10 to the whole series.

Cons:
- looking at the potential, the execution is terrible
- the last episode was a bit too cliche
- immortal Sayoko
- level of ridiculousness of some stuff in last episode was too much even from Shangri-La

Pros:
- great setting
- great ideas and original plot
- Ryuoku - a villain that really entertained me, but her end was disappointing... still, I have seen much, much worse
- Karin was an interesting and entertaining character and the plot twist concerning her parents was shocking. Also liked the fact that she met her friends in person
- the last ep had some touching scenes
- good mix of SF and fantasy
 
Nov 18, 2009 10:00 PM

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kaminakun said:
I don't quite understand how Kuniko landed on the ground in the first minute of the show =.=

At first I thought she used her boomerang or something, but then I wasn't so sure...

Anyway, the setting and premise were epic, but the whole fantasy/supernatural cross-over felt a bit out of place. I still liked it all though, mostly.
 
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There were so many things I didn't like about the latter part of the show. I don't like how Mi-Ko's ghost cured Digma-1 and fixed her killer eye thing too. I don't like how Sayoko was immortal no matter what happened to her she would always crawl back out of the blue. i didn't like how throughout the entire series everyone was able to magically teleport to any location on the planet they wanted. I mean really, on minute everyones on one corner of Japan doing something then the next clip they'd be in a completely differently location walking around like it was nothing at all. Take the 3 old guys for instance who were down in the shelter fighting an internet battle then magically showing up in atlas's underqround hidden vault carrying a giant boomerang.
 
Dec 9, 2009 6:21 AM

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7/10
I personally really enjoyed the show, unique concept and storyline and decent themed music. The ending was pretty much well-wrapped up, unfortunately not everything IRL has perfect endings =\
 
Jan 4, 2010 3:38 PM

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I really liked the setting. That's probably what kept me watching, apart from Nakata Jouji voicing a transsexual. And Karin. 7/10
 
Jan 17, 2010 12:41 AM

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Well this show wasn't amazing, but it had an interesting story and good music, so I still enjoyed it. Yeah, the ending was a bit too good to be believable, but it's still better than the endings of some shows I've seen. At least I can say that I've never seen an anime like this before, which is saying something. And I liked the OP song too.

8/10
 
Jan 21, 2010 5:57 PM

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I just remembered not responding to this, even though I should have considering that this anime has a special place in my heart~

This is without doubt the worst anime i've ever seen.
 
Feb 25, 2010 5:20 PM

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Hmm...There were some good episodes but overall this show just felt ok. There's something holding it back....it's a shame too because I think this had a lot of potential.
 
Apr 26, 2010 11:44 AM

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I really liked the series, the characters, the artwork, the setting, THE BEGGINING... all this was great, but it really fell down later, they really should have made it better.

I mean, all those incoherent facts... c´mon! those lazy bastards went all the way with that awesome setting and they screw it up with those crappy details.

ill give it 8/10 mostly becouse i really like Kuniko and the Setting.
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Apr 28, 2010 8:53 PM

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I cant really understand why most of you didnt like it so much but i might just be a sucker for adventurous plot lines with a crappy government in a Nausicaa like world. ^^
the only question i have is why Kuniko didnt get possessed or whatever when she lifted the spear? :\

9/10 for me


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Dec 26, 2011 3:40 PM

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Everything was alright for the first half of this show, it was getting an 8 out of ten for me but the second half the show ruined it. Sucks to think that this could of been a really good series too.

6/10
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Great to hear the OP song again one last time. A brilliant and unique series, thank you
 
Jul 18, 2012 8:25 AM

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That was one of the first happier ending I saw. And it doesn't make sense that they rushed the show. All anime struggle with the ending, yet the most undeserved get the better score, i.e. Elfen Lied.

Seriously goddamnit. of all the things to complain about, you complain about how the main character landed on the freaking ground?!? There were large number of instance that she was jumping from higher air and easily made it safely. with all those nonsensical criticisms people don't really give Gonzo enough credits.
 
Dec 9, 2013 5:33 PM

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This was actually quite an impressive ending, it was a good ending I mean more like perfect ending to finish this series off! Really well job and everyone just finished off with a big smile!

While the series it self had some bad points it did had some really good ones like this ending and overall I sure enjoyed this series as it did had a good concept and a fulfilling ending!
 
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I like happy endings but this one was just a bit too much BS. Rolled my eyes too much now I'm kind of dizzy lol. Medusa has a baby? So AIs can breed now? Miko's spirit not only saved Mikuni from being shot but she also cured her disease! I mean yeah the genre of the show allows for something supernatural to happen but that's just...*scratches head*

Ryoko was eliminated and so Zeus tried to revive Himiko. What were those two geezers thinking? Make a super computer but not make fail safes? You know...just in case your AI interface got loose and your super bio computer tries to destroy the world. And in the end, they jet off to who knows where. I just...I...ugh.

I like it but I feel so disappointed.
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Aug 16, 2014 9:04 AM

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overall i liked it but not much of of an end there seems to be nowere left to go that sucks.
 
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