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Takuan_Soho said: dmrch said: Shakkin-shitsuji said: I really have a lot to learn with kanji.... Thank you for the answer! You're welcome. But I had to explain more about it. Sorry. Maybe, the artist himself designed that the title "棺姫" is read as "Hitsugi". All of native speakers of Japanese can read it as "Hitsugihime", but cannot read it as "Hitsugi". That pronunciation about it would be only in this work. Don't worry about your kanji skill with this title! Ah, you are starting to reach the "oh dear god" stage of reading Kanji, which generally happens when you realize that NO ONE in Japan really knows how to read Japanese names until they hear them. That is why so many animation has the person say which Kanji their name has when they say their name. The only reason why most Japanese can read most names is solely because of experience. Basically one has to remember that Kanji are not phonetic, they are ideograms. It is the idea, not the sound that is important. 棺姫 means Coffin Princess, however since that is not exactly a word that people speak, until the writer explains how to read it, no one in Japan could pronounce it with any degree of accuracy. That the writer focuses on the reading of coffin and ignores the reading for princess (which is what the two characters mean), is probably the writer expressing a subtle emphasis. The "coffin" is more essential than the "princess". It also forms an ambiguity, the title based on kanji meaning would be "Coffin Princess Chaika"", but since the reading has only coffin, if one were to read it aloud, without the seeing the kanji, the title would be "The Coffin's Chaika", not "the Coffin Princess Chaika". Based on how this story has developed, I have no doubt that this was the writer's intent. Reading the title "the Coffin's Chaika" suggests a lot of different things doesn't it? But it gets lost in the translation. This is what makes Japanese such a rich language full of subtlety, but it is also something that drives people schooled in any phonetic language bat crazy (myself included). I know the feeling. When I was studying Japanese in college, trying to learn kanji was such a headache. I always butchered it because one subtle mistake writing kanji essentially gives it a whole new meaning. |
| Several things to take away from this episode, most of which has already been stated. 1. Man, this has some of the best action scenes in an anime I've seen in a while. I get tired of anime that keep resorting to "overpowering spells/special moves" in order to win. It seems like Toru and Akari resort to good old-fashioned outwitting your enemy in battle. I'm still interested in what exactly the "Iron-Blood Transformation" specifically is supposed to do though. 2. "Chaika? Yes, Chaika. Chaika." I don't even know how to respond to this exchange, other than it made me chuckle. Then again, I can't really fault it because I know I've said some things in moments where I don't even know why I said it, so...kudos to Bones? *shrugs* 3. Looks like the plot is finally starting to take off and make some semblance of sense. I didn't get a good feel for this anime after the first episode, but this one seemed to hit a little harder in the plot department. I have a good feeling about this one. I like the plot and I like the characters. 4. Are the protagonists actually antagonists or anti-heroes? You have to wonder about a MC that states that he doesn't mind war. Overall, I'm thoroughly enjoying the characters and the plot. It still needs some development but so far, I can live with what still needs to be explained. This is quite an exciting series so far. |
| a main character who actually doesn't mind war ? damn, haven't seen that in ages (or actually ever). |
| Another Male lead that seems to be pretty good, more of an anti-hero type of guy. I would put this so far probably the 5th best anime I'm watching this season but that isn't an indictment on the series because this season is so jammed pack with so many great animes so far. |
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| finally, i have a MC who wants to start a war for the lulz |
| Just an anime fan, doing what an anime fan does |
KHRoxas said: not really sure how i feel about this anime yet, it hasn't exactly captivated me so far, an okay episode, definitely enjoying the BA MC, but the rest was a little meh +1 The action sequences are excellent, the fighting styles are natural and fluid, and they don't just nail each other with over-powered special moves/spells one after the other until someone decides to pull an even stronger one out of their ass. So, that part I'm enjoying. However, the rest is just meh. Bleh. Not a whole lot jumping out to grab me here. Chaika is annoying, can't really say anything else about her, she's just annoying. Plot... Well, they're just starting to introduce the plot, so I can't say much. Characters outside the main three? Wait, what characters? Everyone except the main three have been cardboard cut-outs, they all talk the same and think the same. They have no life or personality of their own. They appear, serve their purpose, and then you forget about them until they appear again. I'll give this one another episode or so, probably a couple unless next week is just horrible. But, it seems like this is the second series this season to be added to the "may be dropped" list. |
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| Akari: "Chaika?" Chaika: *nods head* "Yes. Chaika" Akari: "Chaika" Umm.. lolwut? So her real name is Chaika Gaz.. daughter of Emperor Gaz. Dodging the food cart felt extremely pointless. >_> Eh, so the Tooru wants war. heh, this'll be interesting. |
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| Something tells me that Chaika is being used like a puppet for someone else, she may actually believe and intends to do just like she said to put her father in his resting place but i think it is actually a scheme put by somebody else to either revive the king or to gain his infinite power. This is supported by the intro in the beginning of the series. A Mc that actually wants a war? lol this is a first in any anime series defiantly an interesting plot twist. There is flare of mystery and suspicion in this show an di like the fact it is toying with us of who is actually right or wrong, i will keep watch |
| Sooo the two siblings decided to join Chaika and yeah the two are baddass at some points. Its kinda meh that the government (sort off) misunderstands Chaika and her motives. Why? |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
SweetCoconut said: Sooo the two siblings decided to join Chaika and yeah the two are baddass at some points. Its kinda meh that the government (sort off) misunderstands Chaika and her motives. Why? Well it's not as much as they misunderstand than it is about her lineage in general. The idea is probably to kill the king and all successors to the throne. |
| "whats so special about bonzai trees?" "They are the loli of the tree world."  Inganock of the Brightest Flame |
| Cool action. He was being extremely selfish there. Bring war just because he is bored and he is fine with it? What about others? Man, think about them too. Overall, good episode. |
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Takuan_Soho said: dmrch said: Shakkin-shitsuji said: I really have a lot to learn with kanji.... Thank you for the answer! You're welcome. But I had to explain more about it. Sorry. Maybe, the artist himself designed that the title "棺姫" is read as "Hitsugi". All of native speakers of Japanese can read it as "Hitsugihime", but cannot read it as "Hitsugi". That pronunciation about it would be only in this work. Don't worry about your kanji skill with this title! Ah, you are starting to reach the "oh dear god" stage of reading Kanji, which generally happens when you realize that NO ONE in Japan really knows how to read Japanese names until they hear them. That is why so many animation has the person say which Kanji their name has when they say their name. The only reason why most Japanese can read most names is solely because of experience. Basically one has to remember that Kanji are not phonetic, they are ideograms. It is the idea, not the sound that is important. 棺姫 means Coffin Princess, however since that is not exactly a word that people speak, until the writer explains how to read it, no one in Japan could pronounce it with any degree of accuracy. That the writer focuses on the reading of coffin and ignores the reading for princess (which is what the two characters mean), is probably the writer expressing a subtle emphasis. The "coffin" is more essential than the "princess". It also forms an ambiguity, the title based on kanji meaning would be "Coffin Princess Chaika"", but since the reading has only coffin, if one were to read it aloud, without the seeing the kanji, the title would be "The Coffin's Chaika", not "the Coffin Princess Chaika". Based on how this story has developed, I have no doubt that this was the writer's intent. Reading the title "the Coffin's Chaika" suggests a lot of different things doesn't it? But it gets lost in the translation. This is what makes Japanese such a rich language full of subtlety, but it is also something that drives people schooled in any phonetic language bat crazy (myself included). Thank you. That's what I wanted to tell about it. I want to add something into it: There's a possibility that the writer decided the title also by a pronunciation. "Hitsugi no chaika" has more catchy sound than "Hitsugihime no chaika" in Japanese. To be honest, pronunciation of "Hitsugihime" is troublesome. And "Hitsugi no chaika" is very comfortable to pronounce in Japanese because it has seven syllables. |
| I guess she will talk like this forever ... Meh episode, nothing special really. I'm disappointed so far. I hope that the journey will bring more an adventure-feeling which I particularly like. |
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| the tank driver got skills, Gillette is too nice guy, Toru and Akari are quite cool 7 more lords to go? |
TragicRomance said: you kitten me right now? are you kiddin me right meow?Cool action. He was being extremely selfish there. Bring war just because he is bored and he is fine with it? What about others? Man, think about them too. Overall, good episode. this guy doesn't care about others lol. |
| Chaika very kawaii, like the way she talks I also like the personality of Akari episode was full of action by the way will remain so high expectations in this anime ________ Chaika muito kawaii, adoro o jeito como ela fala também gosto da personalidade de Akari episodio foi cheio de ação pelo jeito irá continuar assim grandes expectativas neste anime |
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| He must of had a thousand swords in his house for just that occasion. |
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| Dem knives and swords and cupboards flying around LOL Akari's pretty cool. (smashing everything in the room lolol) On a side note, my jaw dropped when i saw the interval screen, it's too beautiful omg |
| Much better than episode 1 This season is full of good anime |
| "Chaika?" "Yes, Chaika." "Chaika." what |
| Badass MC!! Saboteur + fine with war + just to kill boredom = Awesome!! Was it really necessary for the tank to dodge that cart?!? It's not like the tank would have toppled over or something... |
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| Awesome fight scene and seriously, that wooden tank is awesome. |
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| Chaika speaking how she does is the best part of the anime so far. |
| The action in this show is amazing, I like it. I love Chaika too, people say the way she talks is odd, but I find it cute ^__^ |
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| This show could actually be pretty good if Chaika could just shut her mouth. |
| background on that mysterious one word using character chaika is good. that fight scene was acutally really cool. one of the coolest scenes i have seen in terms of fight choreography. |
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
| Okay, I think I'll like a little information for Chaika's broken speech. Chaika's mission is to collect the emperor's remains but she doesn't know what that will mean. She seems to be very naive and uninformed. Now I'm trying to figure out how this fits with the very first scene...wonder if that shadowy figure is the emperor. |
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| Dammit Bones, wish ya used ur budget on this instead of the other stuff ;.; |
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Takuan_Soho said: Mugen_Time said: Okay, I think I'll like a little information for Chaika's broken speech. Chaika's mission is to collect the emperor's remains but she doesn't know what that will mean. She seems to be very naive and uninformed. Now I'm trying to figure out how this fits with the very first scene...wonder if that shadowy figure is the emperor. The broken speech has a point, but as you pointed out we don't know what the point is: it could just be the fact that she is speaking an unknown language, but personally I think that the figure in the first scene wiped her mind and then gave her a geass to find the body parts (so she couldn't stop if she wanted to)(oh, Geass is older than "code" it is an ancient Irish bit of magic). So the broken speech is the result of what happened to her between her death and resurrection. In a way she is like a Zombie, and her speech echoes the "We eat brains" mode of zombie speech. If the above is true it is a nice touch, but her speech should become more normal as she begins to regain her humanity. I'mma have to go with the first option. She's a foreigner who isn't fluent in Toru's native language. http://www.batoto.net/read/_/52737/hitsugi-no-chaika_ch1_by_village-idiot/23 |
IronLobsterApr 17, 2014 9:01 PM
| "whats so special about bonzai trees?" "They are the loli of the tree world." Inganock of the Brightest Flame |
| That dude had a lot of swords just laying around. Good episode and I liked how we got to learn more about her background this episode. |
| Well that was some pretty addictive action there. Those Saboteurs really know their deal. And the girl only wants to give his father a proper burial, nothing wrong there, but obviously some things are gonna be wrong with the "piece" collecting. Gonna check this even though it is far from my favourite. |
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| So they recovered the emperor's hand. I wonder what is the next body part they will recover next? Great episode!!! |
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| Haha, most of my predictions from the previous episodes were right :) |
| I am a human. |
Bheaze said: that fight scene was acutally really cool. one of the coolest scenes i have seen in terms of fight choreography. agree |
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| Is he really doing it for a war to outbreak or protect that girl? Akari - "If you die without my knowledge, I can't have you stuffed." Tooru - "Too bad for you. When I die, it'll be by explosion." |
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GrizzlyS14 said: kawaii sibling loveAkari - "If you die without my knowledge, I can't have you stuffed." Tooru - "Too bad for you. When I die, it'll be by explosion." |
| This series surprises me, I pick it up without expecting much but I really liked it :D |
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| Seriously, why does she talk like that? Wish they'd explain coz right now, its starting to get annoying! Aside from that, good episode |
You can just be yourself. Do things your own way, one step at a time. You'll get there. Just be yourself, you'll be fine." ~Fruit Basket |
| Well, now everything have been. Or at least, mostly everything. I think it took an interrestinThe two ''heroes'' are nice to see in action. I also like their attitude, not giving a fuck xD The trap he had set up, even if simple, were pretty clever if we take in considaration the situation he was in. He was obviously disavantaged but he managed to survive long enough to make their plan work. |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
| I like this show better than other ones this season. And, is there anyone else think that Chaika is.. cute? I got no problem with her way of talking though, maybe we'll know the reason of that later? |
| When AKari starting breaking the furniture I started laughing. Poor Furniture though. Toaru is EPIC!!! |
jbeat said: Seriously, why does she talk like that? Wish they'd explain coz right now, its starting to get annoying! You know you could just read a few posts above yours? :P It's because she's a foreigner. Apparently the manga doesn't explain it either, but you can infer that whatever language she's speaking right now isn't her first language when you look at the manga page IronLobster linked to. |
| The battle on the bridge between Tooru and the big guy was pretty cool. At least now we know a little bit about Chaika. |
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| The action is pretty good. Loved the animation of the fight. Can't wait for more. |
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| This has to be one of my most anticipated anime of the season going by 2 episodes. Finally an antihero character not bound by sentimentality and a delusional ideal of justice. He does things because he wants to, and starts wars because he wants to. There is no better motivation than "I want to." Enough with the overused protectors of justice label for heroes. 9/10 |
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