romagia said: Nidhoeggr said: still, there are good incest shows and bad incest shows. assuming all incest stories are shit means you don't like incest, not that incest sucksromagia said: not everyone automatically assumes that moe/magical school/ecchi anime suck True, but everybody knows to a certain extent what tropes, plot devices, etc. await him and can judge the show based on this. Or do you expect a LN adaption with imouto in its name to not feature incest by now? You can pretty easily guess some of the main character tropes involved as well so it is not really hard to gauge your opinion in regards to that show. If you would fail to recognize such a pattern after the 25th time I would be worried. I never rated the show, I just said that you can easily criticize the flaw of a concept without seeing it when it is this obvious. I am curious, though: Which incest LN was so good to you? |
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Hulmy said: You didn't write long elaborate post about why it suck so I'm still ok with you.I think SnK is a really bad series and I haven't seen it. I bet you hate me now, OP? |
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| I dont think its ok if they havent seen it at all.But if they have seen 5-10 min I think its enough to make a judgement and complain at least about said 5-10 min. Altough to be honest I did complain about Free! without having it seen. Well not really complaining but I said that Free is just another generic fanservice anime, with the only twist that its males instead of females, without having seen it at all (except for one reactions video to the first few episodes). I just couldnt stand the crazy fujoshis saying this is the masterpiece of all times and its just 2deep4u males that dont like it. |
Nidhoeggr said: i haven't seen any LN adaptations with incest as the main theme, but i found Nisemonogatari to be pretty goodromagia said: Nidhoeggr said: still, there are good incest shows and bad incest shows. assuming all incest stories are shit means you don't like incest, not that incest sucksromagia said: not everyone automatically assumes that moe/magical school/ecchi anime suck True, but everybody knows to a certain extent what tropes, plot devices, etc. await him and can judge the show based on this. Or do you expect a LN adaption with imouto in its name to not feature incest by now? You can pretty easily guess some of the main character tropes involved as well so it is not really hard to gauge your opinion in regards to that show. If you would fail to recognize such a pattern after the 25th time I would be worried. I never rated the show, I just said that you can easily criticize the flaw of a concept without seeing it when it is this obvious. I am curious, though: Which incest LN was so good to you? also Utena and Yosuga no Sora, but they're not LN's |
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romagia said: That was really a bad example anyhow, it's usually more inclined to titles like Lupin III, Fist of the North Star, or Dragon Ball.Astro Boy is the oldest TV anime with full length episodes romagia said: No, I'm pretty sure it isn't.One Piece is the most popular anime in japan that also has a huge following in the west Maybe you're referring to the Manga? romagia said: The people I'm talking to aswell as the majority of western fans don't buy Manga/ don't care whether it's licensed or not.I'm not sure about this, but i think Detective Conan's 51 officially translated volumes make it the longest officially english translated manga |
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| One Piece is the title with the most sold volumes but popularity is a bit different than that. I am sure it is one of the most popular though. As for the longest manga, Kochikame or Golgo would probably like to have a word with you ;) romagia said: i haven't seen any LN adaptations with incest as the main theme, but i found Nisemonogatari to be pretty good also Utena and Yosuga no Sora, but they're not LN's Utena is an interesting example because the staff is very noteworthy and the entire artwork, concept makes it obvious that it tries to be more quality. Nise is a LN, but iirc even nisio said that this was more of a personal fanservice novel for him than an important addition to his franchise. That's enough off-topic, though. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| Complaining about something you don't know and haven't seen is just silly to be honest. Complaining is different from 'deciding you don't want to watch it', of course. Incidentally there are only two LN series with 'Imouto' in their name to have ever got a TV anime - NakaImo and OreImo. |
| There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do. |
YorozuyaGinSan said: Anyone claiming any of these titles to be the oldest anime ever are obviously ignorant when it comes to anime.romagia said: That was really a bad example anyhow, it's usually more inclined to titles like Lupin III, Fist of the North Star, or Dragon Ball.Astro Boy is the oldest TV anime with full length episodes YorozuyaGinSan said: romagia said: No, I'm pretty sure it isn't.One Piece is the most popular anime in japan that also has a huge following in the west Maybe you're referring to the Manga? http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-03-02/japanese-anime-tv-ranking/february-17-23 I used this as a benchmark, and the fact that One Piece has more users than Detective Conan here on MAL. So, One Piece has the highest lowest popularity between MAL and Japanese TV Ratings. Might not the best way to quantify popularity, but i think it's pretty accurate. YorozuyaGinSan said: Even so, it's the longest manga and manga adaptation that reached the western audience.romagia said: The people I'm talking to aswell as the majority of western fans don't buy Manga/ don't care whether it's licensed or not.I'm not sure about this, but i think Detective Conan's 51 officially translated volumes make it the longest officially english translated manga kuuderes_shadow said: Incidentally there are only two LN series with 'Imouto' in their name to have ever got a TV anime - NakaImo and OreImo. I would have never guessed ImoCho and Osaka Okan are not LN adaptations ._. |
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silverwalls said: i think people who complain all the time are annoying in general, but it's even worse if they don't even know what they're talking about. TheNaturalPerm said: nobody needs to see these shows to know how good they are. It's just the usual moe/magical school ecchi bs all over again. anime doesen't really hide to what kind of people it wants to appeal to. That's just how the anime medium works...even more so than other storytelling ones how are you supposed to know? they might just be different. also "moe" isn't a genre that's why I said "usually". 99% of the cases. |
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| I don't know why they do that, maybe they are idiots? romagia said: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-03-02/japanese-anime-tv-ranking/february-17-23 You just destroyed your own argument, One piece isn't even close to 1#. |
| Judging a book by its cover is fine, and to a point unavoidable, but you can only bring this to a certain level. Specially on a forum where discussions can very often go to specifics. |
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rederoin said: you just destroyed your own reading comprehension skillsI don't know why they do that, maybe they are idiots? romagia said: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-03-02/japanese-anime-tv-ranking/february-17-23 You just destroyed your own argument, One piece isn't even close to 1#. romagia said: One Piece has the highest lowest popularity between MAL and Japanese TV Ratings |
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| I don't judge before watching at least a few episodes. Well, I made the big mistake of dropping Shinsekai yori on the first episode. I picked it up again a couple of months ago and realised it was an outstanding anime. You need good judging skills but you also need patience as some series may seem boring but become good when the gears start moving. |
| Aliis si licet, tibi non licet. |
| The description and what its about is enough for me to complain. Plus its popularity. PLUS ITS COVER. Nobody come and yell at me "DON'T JUDGE A BAWK BY ITS COVER BRO." Now let the wars begin! Example: I mean why should I watch something overhyped if by guessing from the description, it appears to be the same generic kind of DBZ battle anime that was better eons ago even if it looked terrible by itself? |
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| It does piss me off at times when someone deems an anime "shit" without even watching it (or a very small percentage of it, as in 1-2 episodes for instance). I did this with Steins;Gate when I dropped it after 3 episodes. Some of my friends told me that it gets better later on, so I decided to pick it back up again after they managed to convince me and I was hooked after what seemed to be a slow start, leading it to become one of my all-time favorites. The point I'm trying to make is that you shouldn't judge a whole series on a very small amount of episodes unless those judgments are only based on the amount that you've seen. |
SolosApr 15, 2014 8:59 AM
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| Kill la Kill is shit!! Do you hate me now? |
MotRin said: Kill la Kill is shit!! Do you hate me now? Nice parody of my post you got there. Now I don't know whether its making fun of me or if its a brave attempt to speak the truth. Probably the former, I'll presume. And there's an entire genre of anime that we complain about without having to watch anything in it. If it isn't over hyped battle no brainers like anything Trigger throws out, then it would be sports anime. And there's no reason at all to open the books of anime sports repeatedly, only one opening is enough if you think that looking at the cover is not enough. Can't speak about Yuri though even if I disliked it. |
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Lord_Pooka said: I mean why should I watch something overhyped if by guessing from the description, it appears to be the same generic kind of DBZ battle anime that was better eons ago even if it looked terrible by itself? Kill La Kill and DBZ are similar in that both have fights, they have nothing else in common. |
| It's idiotic, narrow minded, and foolish in general. There's no basis to complain without experience. I don't even see how people think that's up to debate, it just makes people look whiny and uncultured. But there is a difference between not giving something a chance vs complaining about it. From my experiences I've decided that if it's a reverse harem about a bunch of sadistic guys and a submissive girl, I'm steering clear. But I have no right or basis to complain about any reverse harems I haven't seen. |
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MotRin said: Kill la Kill is shit!! Do you hate me now? Senpai can never hate you baka. |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
Lord_Pooka said: MotRin said: Kill la Kill is shit!! Do you hate me now? Nice parody of my post you got there. Now I don't know whether its making fun of me or if its a brave attempt to speak the truth. Probably the former, I'll presume. And there's an entire genre of anime that we complain about without having to watch anything in it. If it isn't over hyped battle no brainers like anything Trigger throws out, then it would be sports anime. And there's no reason at all to open the books of anime sports repeatedly, only one opening is enough if you think that looking at the cover is not enough. Can't speak about Yuri though even if I disliked it. I did drop Kill la Kill right after finishing first episode (if you bother to check my list). I don't hold prejudice against any genre though. Sport anime is the same as any battle shounen with the only difference being lack of fantasy. skyzblue said: MotRin said: Kill la Kill is shit!! Do you hate me now? Senpai can never hate you baka. Y...You're not being f...fair, s...senpai. |
MotRin said: I did drop Kill la Kill right after finishing first episode (if you bother to check my list). I don't hold prejudice against any genre though. Sport anime is the same as any battle shounen with the only difference being lack of fantasy. Good then, I thought you made fun of me but actually you happened to be one of the few people who agree with me on that! I'm not alone, I'm relieved. Why not be friends? I think most people who will use the excuse of "Don't judge a book by its cover" are already doing so with sports anime. I know sports anime usually involves a team playing sports, playing sports, until the antagonist appears and surprise, he's an evil sportsman who will rule the world tyrannically.. With sports! This is your usual sports impression. Now by figuring out that an anime is a sports anime, this impression of sports anime comes into thought just by looking at the fact that an anime is of the sports genre. Now allow me to hate KLK as much as I want for being an overhyped DBZ battle clone with terrible fight scenes out of a 2 minutes scene I got recommended, just like how you hate sports anime without watching it. |
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MotRin said: Lord_Pooka said: MotRin said: Kill la Kill is shit!! Do you hate me now? Nice parody of my post you got there. Now I don't know whether its making fun of me or if its a brave attempt to speak the truth. Probably the former, I'll presume. And there's an entire genre of anime that we complain about without having to watch anything in it. If it isn't over hyped battle no brainers like anything Trigger throws out, then it would be sports anime. And there's no reason at all to open the books of anime sports repeatedly, only one opening is enough if you think that looking at the cover is not enough. Can't speak about Yuri though even if I disliked it. I did drop Kill la Kill right after finishing first episode (if you bother to check my list). I don't hold prejudice against any genre though. Sport anime is the same as any battle shounen with the only difference being lack of fantasy. They both like to use the "coming of age" theme though not all sports anime are like that. You're probably thinking of sports anime under the shounen demographic, such as Hajime no Ippo, Slam Dunk, etc. Though there are sports anime like One Outs which are more "cutthroat" in nature as it focuses on gambling in professional baseball. Lord_Pooka said: I think most people who will use the excuse of "Don't judge a book by its cover" are already doing so with sports anime. I know sports anime usually involves a team playing sports, playing sports, until the antagonist appears and surprise, he's an evil sportsman who will rule the world tyrannically.. With sports! This is your usual sports impression. Now by figuring out that an anime is a sports anime, this impression of sports anime comes into thought just by looking at the fact that an anime is of the sports genre. I can only think of a very small number of sports anime with that sort of "evil sportsman" (I can think of Aomine from KnB, though he doesn't fall under that category entirely). Most fall under the rival category, whether they are friendly rivals or not, which is perfectly normal when you take into account that there is competition going on. And not all sports anime follow team sports, Hajime no Ippo is about boxing, for instance. Not all sports anime follow conventional sports, such as Chihayafuru with Karuta (an ancient Japanese game). |
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Lord_Pooka said: Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen anime so therefore even if you don't watch it you know it's the exact same as DBZ and the big 3. Right?MotRin said: I did drop Kill la Kill right after finishing first episode (if you bother to check my list). I don't hold prejudice against any genre though. Sport anime is the same as any battle shounen with the only difference being lack of fantasy. Good then, I thought you made fun of me but actually you happened to be one of the few people who agree with me on that! I'm not alone, I'm relieved. Why not be friends? I think most people who will use the excuse of "Don't judge a book by its cover" are already doing so with sports anime. I know sports anime usually involves a team playing sports, playing sports, until the antagonist appears and surprise, he's an evil sportsman who will rule the world tyrannically.. With sports! This is your usual sports impression. Now by figuring out that an anime is a sports anime, this impression of sports anime comes into thought just by looking at the fact that an anime is of the sports genre. Now allow me to hate KLK as much as I want for being an overhyped DBZ battle clone with terrible fight scenes out of a 2 minutes scene I got recommended, just like how you hate sports anime without watching it. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Lord_Pooka said: Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen anime so therefore even if you don't watch it you know it's the same as DBZ and the big 3. Right?MotRin said: I did drop Kill la Kill right after finishing first episode (if you bother to check my list). I don't hold prejudice against any genre though. Sport anime is the same as any battle shounen with the only difference being lack of fantasy. Good then, I thought you made fun of me but actually you happened to be one of the few people who agree with me on that! I'm not alone, I'm relieved. Why not be friends? I think most people who will use the excuse of "Don't judge a book by its cover" are already doing so with sports anime. I know sports anime usually involves a team playing sports, playing sports, until the antagonist appears and surprise, he's an evil sportsman who will rule the world tyrannically.. With sports! This is your usual sports impression. Now by figuring out that an anime is a sports anime, this impression of sports anime comes into thought just by looking at the fact that an anime is of the sports genre. Now allow me to hate KLK as much as I want for being an overhyped DBZ battle clone with terrible fight scenes out of a 2 minutes scene I got recommended, just like how you hate sports anime without watching it. It is listed as action and was published in a shounen magazine, so that conclusion does seem reasonable. |
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SolBlade said: DrGeroCreation said: Lord_Pooka said: Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen anime so therefore even if you don't watch it you know it's the same as DBZ and the big 3. Right?MotRin said: I did drop Kill la Kill right after finishing first episode (if you bother to check my list). I don't hold prejudice against any genre though. Sport anime is the same as any battle shounen with the only difference being lack of fantasy. Good then, I thought you made fun of me but actually you happened to be one of the few people who agree with me on that! I'm not alone, I'm relieved. Why not be friends? I think most people who will use the excuse of "Don't judge a book by its cover" are already doing so with sports anime. I know sports anime usually involves a team playing sports, playing sports, until the antagonist appears and surprise, he's an evil sportsman who will rule the world tyrannically.. With sports! This is your usual sports impression. Now by figuring out that an anime is a sports anime, this impression of sports anime comes into thought just by looking at the fact that an anime is of the sports genre. Now allow me to hate KLK as much as I want for being an overhyped DBZ battle clone with terrible fight scenes out of a 2 minutes scene I got recommended, just like how you hate sports anime without watching it. It is listed as action and was published in a shounen magazine, so that conclusion does seem reasonable. I'm pretty sure DrGero is being sarcastic. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Lord_Pooka said: Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen anime so therefore even if you don't watch it you know it's the exact same as DBZ and the big 3. Right?MotRin said: I did drop Kill la Kill right after finishing first episode (if you bother to check my list). I don't hold prejudice against any genre though. Sport anime is the same as any battle shounen with the only difference being lack of fantasy. Good then, I thought you made fun of me but actually you happened to be one of the few people who agree with me on that! I'm not alone, I'm relieved. Why not be friends? I think most people who will use the excuse of "Don't judge a book by its cover" are already doing so with sports anime. I know sports anime usually involves a team playing sports, playing sports, until the antagonist appears and surprise, he's an evil sportsman who will rule the world tyrannically.. With sports! This is your usual sports impression. Now by figuring out that an anime is a sports anime, this impression of sports anime comes into thought just by looking at the fact that an anime is of the sports genre. Now allow me to hate KLK as much as I want for being an overhyped DBZ battle clone with terrible fight scenes out of a 2 minutes scene I got recommended, just like how you hate sports anime without watching it. There is gangrape in Mirai Nikki. That's all the difference it needs. |
MotRin said: DrGeroCreation said: Lord_Pooka said: Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen anime so therefore even if you don't watch it you know it's the exact same as DBZ and the big 3. Right?MotRin said: I did drop Kill la Kill right after finishing first episode (if you bother to check my list). I don't hold prejudice against any genre though. Sport anime is the same as any battle shounen with the only difference being lack of fantasy. Good then, I thought you made fun of me but actually you happened to be one of the few people who agree with me on that! I'm not alone, I'm relieved. Why not be friends? I think most people who will use the excuse of "Don't judge a book by its cover" are already doing so with sports anime. I know sports anime usually involves a team playing sports, playing sports, until the antagonist appears and surprise, he's an evil sportsman who will rule the world tyrannically.. With sports! This is your usual sports impression. Now by figuring out that an anime is a sports anime, this impression of sports anime comes into thought just by looking at the fact that an anime is of the sports genre. Now allow me to hate KLK as much as I want for being an overhyped DBZ battle clone with terrible fight scenes out of a 2 minutes scene I got recommended, just like how you hate sports anime without watching it. There is gangrape in Mirai Nikki. That's all the difference it needs. There was tentacle rape in Fairy Tail. @Andan210: I know. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen anime so therefore even if you don't watch it you know it's the exact same as DBZ and the big 3. Right? Who said Mirai Nikki was a battle shonen alike the big/overrated three (minus DBK)? Also, why bring up Mirai Nikki again?! |
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Lord_Pooka said: To make a point to show you that you can't just generalize like that.DrGeroCreation said: Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen anime so therefore even if you don't watch it you know it's the exact same as DBZ and the big 3. Right? Who said Mirai Nikki was a battle shonen alike the big/overrated three (minus DBK)? Also, why bring up Mirai Nikki again?! |
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DrGeroCreation said: Lord_Pooka said: To make a point to show you that you can't just generalize like that.DrGeroCreation said: Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen anime so therefore even if you don't watch it you know it's the exact same as DBZ and the big 3. Right? Who said Mirai Nikki was a battle shonen alike the big/overrated three (minus DBK)? Also, why bring up Mirai Nikki again?! Oh, you're not joking. Looking at the image and the description, you'll find no hints of DBZ-like battles. And the final result is that you've got only one DBZ-like battle, but it comes at the end. Battle anime with totally unrealistic battles stand out very damn well. |
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galimx said: Mirai Nikki is a generic shounen. Actually, it's far less. Fixed. |
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MotRin said: SolBlade said: MotRin said: That's why it's better than the big 3. Rape makes everything better. It's not actual rape in FT so it's still worse than Mirai Nikki. Krauser raped the Tokyo Tower in Detroit Metal City (along with a bunch of other things). Therefore DMC>Mirai Nikki>Fairy Tail. |
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| I used to be nice, explaining that it wasn't right, it was stupid, and convincing the user to continue watching. Now that I realize doing something like that is a waste of my time, I just don't take their post seriously, ever. I mean, they must be pretty stubborn; if they won't even try to understand the series, probably they won't try to understand my post either. |
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Lord_Pooka said: That's the point just because Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen anime doesn't mean it's the exact same as DBZ.DrGeroCreation said: Lord_Pooka said: To make a point to show you that you can't just generalize like that.DrGeroCreation said: Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen anime so therefore even if you don't watch it you know it's the exact same as DBZ and the big 3. Right? Who said Mirai Nikki was a battle shonen alike the big/overrated three (minus DBK)? Also, why bring up Mirai Nikki again?! Oh, you're not joking. Looking at the image and the description, you'll find no hints of DBZ-like battles. And the final result is that you've got only one DBZ-like battle, but it comes at the end. Battle anime with totally unrealistic battles stand out very damn well. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Lord_Pooka said: That's the point just because Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen anime doesn't mean it's the exact same as DBZ.DrGeroCreation said: Lord_Pooka said: To make a point to show you that you can't just generalize like that.DrGeroCreation said: Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen anime so therefore even if you don't watch it you know it's the exact same as DBZ and the big 3. Right? Who said Mirai Nikki was a battle shonen alike the big/overrated three (minus DBK)? Also, why bring up Mirai Nikki again?! Oh, you're not joking. Looking at the image and the description, you'll find no hints of DBZ-like battles. And the final result is that you've got only one DBZ-like battle, but it comes at the end. Battle anime with totally unrealistic battles stand out very damn well. Who told you that Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen in the first place? |
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Ckan said: My circles are all in place. Soon, the arguments will never end. Muahahahahhaa. You planned this all along? Well played, sir. |
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Ckan said: You will soon complete the large transmutation circle around the forum by using the arguments started in each board. Well playedMy circles are all in place. Soon, the arguments will never end. Muahahahahhaa. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Lord_Pooka said: It is factually a battle shonen anime because it was published in a shonen magazine and action is one of it's main genres.DrGeroCreation said: Lord_Pooka said: That's the point just because Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen anime doesn't mean it's the exact same as DBZ.DrGeroCreation said: Lord_Pooka said: To make a point to show you that you can't just generalize like that.DrGeroCreation said: Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen anime so therefore even if you don't watch it you know it's the exact same as DBZ and the big 3. Right? Who said Mirai Nikki was a battle shonen alike the big/overrated three (minus DBK)? Also, why bring up Mirai Nikki again?! Oh, you're not joking. Looking at the image and the description, you'll find no hints of DBZ-like battles. And the final result is that you've got only one DBZ-like battle, but it comes at the end. Battle anime with totally unrealistic battles stand out very damn well. Who told you that Mirai Nikki is a battle shonen in the first place? Yeah, just because the publication is inside a shonen magazine and it being based on action, this means its damn safe to plaster the word "battle" on it out of nowhere, huh? So even if it lacks battles but instead shootings and escape from death situations in which you can win it by strategic planning and brains instead of body strength and whatever magical force inside you, Mirai Nikki is indeed factually an animanga in which Yuno punches everyone mindlessly to death while her enemies use their superpowers such as flight, rather than both sides thinking about how to strike carefully or else they're dead, huh? And when all the fights involve the use of weapons that aren't super powered or anything, real weapons, bar one fight, right? I give no damn to the publication source. Whether its a battle shonen or not sticks out from the description. |
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Ckan said: You are such a deviant tactician.My circles are all in place. Soon, the arguments will never end. Muahahahahhaa. [@Lord_Pooka |
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