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09-11-09, 3:52 PM

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I found all the ghost disappearances kinda cheesy, but I guess this was the best way to bring it to a gradual close. There's still people who would have been blindsided that haven't paid attention to fan discussions so it's probably for the best.

I was kinda hoping for something more dramatic, but it works. The falling building felt a little sloppy as a way to elevate tension... it was just kinda thrown in there. Maybe they're trying to imply some symbolism where the house crumbling is like her illusions doing the same.... but there would have been better settings for that. I wonder if this scene was originally planned for their own house.

I feel sorry for Itsuki... the director is making him run around looking for his dead friend just to help make a plot point... :-/

At least her parents are alive... and they probably know about Yuuki from the phone message Mari left earlier. It'll be a bit too tearful if Mirai has to try to break it to them. One more ep to go... so expect a reunion, Mari catching up to Mirai, and some powerful statement about rebuilding lives... throw in a flash-forward scene with Mirai and Family crossing the bridge and it'll wrap up nicely.

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if Yuuki's dead, how come Mari..at the past episodes after Yuuki got sick; seems like she is also conversating with the two (Yuuki and Mirai)?

Watch them again, you'll see that Mari only ever talks/calls/touches Mirai. There are parts where Mirai talks about Yuuki in front of her, but it's easy to interpret those sentences differently. Mari obviously finds it strange that Mirai isn't bawling and in pain, but can't bring herself to confront Mirai about it.
 
09-11-09, 4:20 PM

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Pretty good episode imo.
 
09-11-09, 5:31 PM

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I feel sorry for Mirai since she seem to totally block the moment of Yuki dying earlier. But it seems that Yuki was symbolically acting like a guardian angel for Mirai. Though that bgm during the last scene was a bit creepy, it was a pretty good ep.
 
09-11-09, 5:32 PM

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That was depressing, he did die in the hospital.



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09-11-09, 5:45 PM

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I blame my sister. I was the dense people who didn't realize the hint at episode 8-9s. My sister told me about it and I was like, "NO, YOUR WRONG" "It can't be true!!" Then throughout the whole episode, I saw all those obvious hints and I was like, "dang it all". Oh well, it was an average episode for me. Like other people said, it didn't really give me the whole sadness feeling. I don't know why, but I didn't have much of a reaction. I only felt a little chill in my spine, but that's about it. I usually feel like tears are about to come out during sad situations, but this really didn't do it for me.

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09-11-09, 6:07 PM

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Could have been more dramatic but I did tear up at the end D:
 
09-11-09, 6:45 PM

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First half was kind of dragged out, it got great when they entered the classroom though.

And heh, the first "dream" sequence from episode 8 was actually reality, while the second one with the doctors exiting the surgery room was actually a dream.
 
09-11-09, 7:06 PM

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so good. this anime is one of the most realistic shows out there and if people thought anime was just for kids, this show would change their minds. So amazing and sad. By far one of the best shows that came out of it's season. I knew it, but didn't want to believe it. Damn that sucks.
 
09-11-09, 7:26 PM

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That was well done. These past few episodes, the hints where subtle enough as to not give away the secret right off the bat. I'm happy they left us on our feet.

I'm wondering if Yuuki is a real ghost or really just his sister's own mind showing her what she wants to see and hear. Should be a interesting ending...parents finding out their son died, Mirai having to deal with the fact that her brother's been dead for days, Yuuki going off to the other world, Mari possibly showing up...etc.
 
09-11-09, 7:36 PM

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again, even though we all know he's dead, it's still pretty painful to watch...


I did tear up a little at that. I'd been in denial about it since the little hospital scene/dream Mirai had...but now it's confirmed. D: Wonder how they'll end it
 
09-11-09, 7:51 PM

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I was sort of confused early on, but figured it out at the end of episode 9 with the whole thing with Yuuki's backpack.

Albeit, I'm a bit sad that Yuuki had to die, but in a way, it just brought everything on a different emotional and mental level, especially for Mirai.

Only one episode left... I wonder how everything ends... can't wait.
 
09-11-09, 7:56 PM

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No wonder i felt it kinda strange how come Yuuki is still there .. guess he really was died


 
09-11-09, 7:56 PM

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I started crying when she saw his picture in the classroom. *sniffs* It was a very real and very emotional way to view a death in a show.
 
09-11-09, 8:38 PM

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Funny thing. I had no idea he was dead, but it was hardly denial. I thought from the beginning he needed to die for Mirai to actually grow up. But when it actually came time, I thought the show chickened out and tried to go for a "happier" ending that I would have found less satisfying. On the plus side, that means I actually got to enjoy the episode, with a bit of head-scratching once Yuki started disappearing every other frame. Not too hard to figure out, though.

I might even have to give the show a higher score for that, depending on how they handle the ending.
 
09-11-09, 8:45 PM

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I felt sorry, but it was too prolonged and a little annoying.
 
09-11-09, 8:45 PM

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What's with kids these days? Punching people randomly like that...

Okay so Yuuki is officially dead. Lots of tears again.
 
09-11-09, 8:50 PM

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I felt sorry, but it was too prolonged and a little annoying.

quite so and the ed feels like after stories.... completely out of place
 
09-11-09, 8:57 PM

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I thought when they had the building collapse, they were going to kill Yuuki's friend WITH Yuuki and that was when Mirai would have recognized that he was dead.

I'm glad it didn't happen that way. He COULD be an angel instead of an imagined figure.
 
09-11-09, 9:02 PM

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I enjoyed this episode despite the fact I already knew Yuuki was dead. I guess this anime needed to be short because it would really feel dragged out if it was like 26 episodes or something.
 
09-11-09, 9:30 PM

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I haven't been on these boards throughout watching this anime so I noticed the hints about him being dead but like someone mentioned above I thought the death was a dream and the part about him being alive was the truth. I wasn't so much in denial as optomistic. But losts of little things didn't make sense to me so that answers that. The final conclusion in this episode about his death I think was drawn out too though.

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09-11-09, 9:39 PM

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^^ yuuki's death was already dragged out, couldn't even imagine how slow 26 episodes would be.

the thing that is funny, though is how there are still some people who didn't know yuuki died. at least mirai was in shock, so she has an excuse. it's not even the fact that they missed the clues or were in some sort of denial. it's just that the majority of those who haven't seen it coming actually like this anime. now, I think this anime is a 5/6 right now, but even I trust it enough to do a proper foreshadowing and get the hints the anime keeps throwing. yuuki being alive would have f*cked up the last two episodes, i don't think anyone wants that.
 
09-11-09, 9:40 PM

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Just a thought,but, what if the whole part of Yuuki being dead was some sort of Dream in the end?
 
09-11-09, 9:41 PM

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LOL @ who ever said what happen if she was hallucinating and this was just all a dream in the last episode discussion
 
09-11-09, 9:46 PM

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LOL @ who ever said what happen if she was hallucinating and this was just all a dream in the last episode discussion


Lol, I had to throw it out there. Most likely, he is dead. I am just curious as to how Episode 11 will turn out. I am ready for either a HUGE twist or a regular ending.
 
09-11-09, 9:46 PM

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Oh my god, could they have dragged this episode out any longer? Mari understandably tiptoed around it, but the Itsuki kid should have realized something was fucked up halfway through!

Oh, and plot hole, HOW CAN HE BE CARRYING THE BACKPACK?
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09-11-09, 9:48 PM

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Oh, and plot hole, HOW CAN HE BE CARRYING THE BACKPACK?


Very true, lol
 
09-11-09, 10:09 PM

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The imaginary Yuuki carrying the backpack is not a plot hole. Mirai forgot it when she left Mari and has been imagining him carrying it ever since. Mari has got the real one, as seen at the end of the last episode.
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09-11-09, 10:34 PM

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Loved it. Even though I knew he was dead I still loved how they handled this in Mirai's perspective. I loveeeed the flashback clips when she finally realized it. So sad. Definitely a great series.
(minus that little kid's voice in this episode...Yuuki's friend...wanted to strangle him xD)
 
09-11-09, 10:44 PM

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The imaginary Yuuki carrying the backpack is not a plot hole. Mirai forgot it when she left Mari and has been imagining him carrying it ever since. Mari has got the real one, as seen at the end of the last episode.


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09-11-09, 11:25 PM

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By "last" episode I meant the "previous" one which was episode 9. I'm sorry if I was unclear but I thought it was obvious that "last" episode would mean the last before this one.
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09-11-09, 11:40 PM

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oh how i love the english language...
 
09-11-09, 11:49 PM

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I must be slow or something. I only just realised at the beginning of this ep that he was dead.

 
09-11-09, 11:53 PM

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dammit this really sad that Yuuki has to die ...

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09-12-09, 1:19 AM
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i hope this series wraps up nicely but so far it looks like an 8/10 for me.

 
09-12-09, 1:39 AM

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Really, if I were Itsuki, I would have been wondering why my best friend wasn't sticking around to say hi, so I think that's when Itsuki started to clue in that something was "up" with regards to Yuuki. He was starting to throw confused looks in Mirai's direction and there was something in the tone of his voice that sounded like he thought something was wrong.

I'm relieved that Mirai wasn't alone for the realization.

I think if it went any faster, then Mirai wouldn't have come to the realization as smoothly as she did here. I think it had to be gradual and she needed to see his desk and drawings to push the memories to the surface.

They through me through a bit of a loop. I thought the surgery scene was real and the darkish-green scene was the dream. When they showed us the full scene of what was real, that's when I remembered that they put a tag on a boy that had the same color shirt as Yuuki's. The thing is, the first time they showed that scene, it was quick and incomplete. Well done.
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09-12-09, 2:10 AM

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I must be slow or something. I only just realised at the beginning of this ep that he was dead.


or another possibility is that you thought that show was "striving for a sense of realism". i know i did >.< and when his final declaration came i was like 'lolwut? xD' take care "sense of realism", i'll miss you.
 
09-12-09, 7:09 AM

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Well, I guess I was expecting this since Mari found out her family was safe. I figured that if one of the two turned out okay, the other would get the short stick. Rather than Yuuki dying though, I thought their parents would have been dead (curse my lack of observation skills and not noticing earlier).

Also, anyone else think that it was his fault in the first place? I understand he's a kid, but still.
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09-12-09, 7:24 AM

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Yuukiiii é___è
 
09-12-09, 8:15 AM

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So is Yuuki a ghost or is he a delusion?

I'm thinking he's more of a ghost since he can interact and knows his surrounding.
 
09-12-09, 9:07 AM

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I already guess it since the end of episode 8 and absolutely sure in episode 9, and in this episode I only waited one sentence that i think would came out when they still in the truck. Apparently, they strech the episode and suspend the death declaration which is make me dissapointed with this episode.

Seriously, what i waited to come out in the first minutes came out 20 minutes later, such a waste for episode.

I hope they have a good ending for this
 
09-12-09, 9:10 AM

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Oh my god, could they have dragged this episode out any longer? Mari understandably tiptoed around it, but the Itsuki kid should have realized something was fucked up halfway through!

Oh, and plot hole, HOW CAN HE BE CARRYING THE BACKPACK?

The real backpack actually now is with Mari, the one that Ghost-Yuuki hold is just another delusion
 
09-12-09, 9:31 AM

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Here's the better view from Episode 9!!


Look at what Mari is holding!! D***, I just realize that he's dead. Took to some time to look back what's going on~~~
 
09-12-09, 9:35 AM

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Here's the better view from Episode 9!!


Look at what Mari is holding!! D***, I just realize that he's dead. Took to some time to look back what's going on~~~


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09-12-09, 9:39 AM

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no way! so what does it mean? mirai was always talking to herself in the whole episode 9, and mary didn't notice mirai that yuuki was dead?? >__<
 
09-12-09, 9:59 AM

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no way! so what does it mean? mirai was always talking to herself in the whole episode 9, and mary didn't notice mirai that yuuki was dead?? >__<

episode 8, too

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09-12-09, 10:02 AM

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During ep8 and 9 Mari's reaction didn't even caught me that Yuuki is really that.. like I've said before in ep9 about the backpack... but what's with this ep that the death was too much.

But I really think the author would like to put Mirai's state of denial, coz its really hard to forget your love ones right

19:26 lol that was one Goosebump i felt haha

ok so the flashback was very satisfying.. however going back to the E.R scene was too much (ep8)
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09-12-09, 12:06 PM

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Loved this episode.
Was it dragged out for the viewer? Maybe, but not for me. What I liked about the handling of Yuuki's death is that it does two different things depending on the maturity of the viewer: If you realized that Yuuki died early on, you were watching a totally broken girl walk around talking to herself because she is in denial...then you get to witness her totally breakdown during this episode, and "hear the truth"; if you were with Mirai in the denial, then you probably started slowly questioning a lot of what happened, and then was with Mirai as the revelation became apparent.

This episode cleanly helped pull Mirai out of her denial, and I loved watching it. To me, not a moment was wasted, since, for Mirai, she was getting to know her brother through the school, the tree, and Itsuki. She felt like she hadn't spent enough time with him in the past two years, and when she was with him, she was a bitch, so in order to let go, she needed this closure. It was beautiful. Since Yuuki died, I've been paying close attention to when Mirai is talking to Yuuki. It was always out of earshot of Mari until maybe right before she left, when Mirai said, "Yuki wants to go home." That's what drew the first puzzled look on Mari's face, but I think she rationalized it by assuming that it was Mirai's thought of Yuuki's wish.

One of the best single episodes of the year. If this were a live action television show, this episode would get a lot of people Emmys.
 
09-12-09, 12:10 PM

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So is it just Mirai subconsciousness that created Yuuki, or it was Yuuki's spirit? The former sounds more logical, but then again, how could it find Mari's family and save his best friend?
 
09-12-09, 12:14 PM

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Yuuki didn't do anything. Mirai was walking around, her friend told her to go to the school, then she ran into Itsuki who showed her where her parents were, and it was Mirai who saved Itsuki, not Yuuki. He's a total delusion.
 
09-12-09, 1:30 PM

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Mirai is sure good in being stubborn, thinking that Yuuki was still alive and kicking. Well, indeed, it was already obvious that he was dead, but it was not known for the people who didn't know ánd Mirai herself. Reminds me that I was one of the few who actually noticed that Yuuki's wrist got tagged with a 'I'm dead' label in what was it again, episode 8. I guess we'll meet with Mari next episode again. If not, that would be lame, as I think she's going to bright slap Mirai.
 
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