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ECHO starting new novel!
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Apr 9, 2014 11:02 PM
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I wonder what'll be about so excited over here.
Apr 10, 2014 12:40 AM

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ichii_1 said:
A new orthodox school novel series but will it be in the same universe as the others or a completely new series?
The chance it not being in the same universe is slim thou and I'm not even sure I want it if it's not connected to the others.
He has series that are unrelated to Toaru.
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icantfeelmyarms said:
Better animate the rest of Index and no more fucking Railgun.


Strong this.
Railgun is pretty awesome when it doesnt have originality all over the place.
vlaine said:
Plot twist! It'll turn out to be To Aru Miraculous no Sogita. A series dedicated completely to Gunhas's school life.
I can live with that.But....

Plot twist!This is Version_Beta and we follow the daily events of
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Apr 10, 2014 12:56 AM

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Just what we need...more lazy novels.

shirayuki75 said:
This guy must be on writing steroids or something; how can he write so many stories simultaneously?


If I just made everything up and never cared about plotholes I could write 20 books a year as well.
Steel Ball Run anime when?
Apr 10, 2014 12:58 AM

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Kamachi-sensei to start a new series! This will be very interesting to see! ^_^



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Nidhoeggr said:
Just what we need...more lazy novels.

shirayuki75 said:
This guy must be on writing steroids or something; how can he write so many stories simultaneously?


If I just made everything up and never cared about plotholes I could write 20 books a year as well.
Better lazy novels that are being published than lazy manga with no end.

Anything not created to please you is plothole.Please name some.
Apr 10, 2014 1:08 AM

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As If I'd bother reading 30+ novels from a series I couldn't stand due to horrible writing even in the first season...

And what lazy manga with no end do you mean? LN can be stretched beyond belief as well...
Steel Ball Run anime when?
Apr 10, 2014 1:12 AM

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Nidhoeggr said:
As If I'd bother reading 30+ novels from a series I couldn't stand due to horrible writing even in the first season...

Ad what lazy manga with no end do you mean? Ln can be stretched beyond belief as well...

So you talk shit about a Light novel series you dont know shit about.
Always the same Nid always the same.

I love that you dont know.Always first to mock other people's fav, always last to criticize your own.
Apr 10, 2014 1:15 AM

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You mean Berserk, the manga where only impatient people want to have a rushed ending in 10+ chapters than to wait for a good conclusion that has planned way in advance because they can't handle that someone takes a month to draw a chapter because he is a perfectionist? Oh yeah... that is such a bad approach. It's like you never read an unfinished book series...
Steel Ball Run anime when?
Apr 10, 2014 1:19 AM

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Nidhoeggr said:
You mean Berserk, the manga where only impatient people want to have a rushed ending in 10+ chapters than to wait for a good conclusion that has planned way in advance because they can't handle that someone takes a month to draw a chapter because he is a perfectionist? Oh yeah... that is such a bad approach. It's like you never read an unfinished book series...

Source?

and

Lol.

And If he was a perfectionist then the last two arcs shouldnt be there.

But I have actually read what I criticize.Unlike you for example.
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*trying to avoid Berserk spoilers*
take you lovers' quarrel elsewhere, you two lovebirds.

As long as the guy can do what he loves (earning mon- I mean writing) and as long as the novels will sell anyway, it's fine. Personally I couldn't care less, but I'm not exactly bothered by it either.
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Apr 10, 2014 1:48 AM

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Let him rest !
That guy can't be human.
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GigaSPX said:
I was starting to think what the title meant by "New Novel Series" meaning an entire side story devoted to the Accelerator. But then reading the description, it's about school.

Ehhhhh.......


Well there's an Accelerator manga. We don't need two of the same thing.
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Really love Index series!

Can't wait to see what he will write next!

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Apr 10, 2014 5:42 AM

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For got that I need to start reading Heavy Object first.
Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together.
Apr 10, 2014 6:10 AM

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still need more index a third season if possible
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The same news on ANN has this in the end of the article: A Certain Magical Index illustrator Kiyotaka Haimura will publish his second art collection this summer, "and more" announcements are to come.
So yeah there will be more annoncementes coming, and season 3 of Index must be one of these upcoming delicous announcements and if not I will be crying of shameXD
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Nidhoeggr said:
As If I'd bother reading 30+ novels from a series I couldn't stand due to horrible writing even in the first season...

And what lazy manga with no end do you mean? LN can be stretched beyond belief as well...


Let me just add that the light novel series is totally different compared to the anime adaptation. It would be better to actually read the novels before judging.

It would be like saying Dragonbal mangal is lame based on the Dragonball Live action movie you watched.
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
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GigaSPX said:
I was starting to think what the title meant by "New Novel Series" meaning an entire side story devoted to the Accelerator. But then reading the description, it's about school.

Ehhhhh.......

Accelerator got a manga. Doesn't need a novel.


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Kinda iffy about this new school orientated novel.
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Sweet, I really wanna read it.

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Orthodox school here doesn't mean it's about a school. Just that it's orthodox. the word school here comes from the kanji 派, which is a school as in " a school of thinking", not a school as in "high school". A faction, a way to do see things.


Also, it's true that the first half of the first Index LN series is mostly awful as far as quality goes. I don't agree with Nidhoeggr's habit to criticize things he never read, but even without reading them if you keep saying that everything is bad one day or another you're going to be right on one title which actually happen to be bad. Second part of the first series has a better level though. Volumes 15,19,20,21,22 especially.

Also, some people here seems to think that kamachi is the LN author who write the most pages per year. That's very far from being true. IIRC authors like ichirou sakaki, akira and kawakami write far more than him.
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Apr 11, 2014 3:31 PM

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i just want to know what this means for people wanting to see a third and fourth season of Index?
Apr 11, 2014 7:31 PM

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Couldn't find myself interested with Index franchise at all (Both LN and anime). I dunno, i just find the premise and worldbuilding in Index very silly and mostly contrived and, like Nidhoeggr said, full of plotholes. And Touma's tendency to punch women at the face, even when they're villains, just made me cringe. On the other hand, i thoroughly enjoyed A simple survey LN on Baka-Tsuki. This one is just great. Kamachi's snarkiness and goldmine of tsukkomi totally shines thoroughly that i found myself laughing several times from its powerful ability to throw jabs at several intricacies and tendencies in otaku subculture. Now that is the kind of novels that i'd love Kamachi to write. No need for flashy actions or complicated worldbuilding like Index, but just a simple wordplays and strong sense of humor.
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Nidhoeggr said:
Just what we need...more lazy novels.

shirayuki75 said:
This guy must be on writing steroids or something; how can he write so many stories simultaneously?


If I just made everything up and never cared about plotholes I could write 20 books a year as well.


Well... I heard you don't read the novels. The novels are way better than the anime. The novels definitely aren't lazily written. It's fine if you don't like the anime, just don't use that as an excuse to criticize the novels. The novels are fantastic, the anime was ok, and of course the anime version might have plot holes, but the light novels definitely don't...

Everyone's fine to their own opinions, but please read them first before calling it lazy writing. Everything after volume 13 (season 2's ending) are some of the best books I've ever read in my entire life, especially NT 8, NT 9.

Kamachi is one of the most talented writers I have ever seen/read. He never writes lazily. The only lazy people are the one's adapting his series in J.C. staff... just making that clear.

Also, even if you wrote 20 books a year, each one probably wouldn't sell 150,000 copies consistently every time you published one...

That means at least 150,000 people enjoy his series and think it is well-written. It's hard to get that much of a consistent following no matter who you are. By the way, most LN series sell 10,000 and that's a hit, so 150,000 for LN's is ridiculous. (it works differently than popular manga series).

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Couldn't find myself interested with Index franchise at all (Both LN and anime). I dunno, i just find the premise and worldbuilding in Index very silly and mostly contrived and, like Nidhoeggr said, full of plotholes. And Touma's tendency to punch women at the face, even when they're villains, just made me cringe. On the other hand, i thoroughly enjoyed A simple survey LN on Baka-Tsuki. This one is just great. Kamachi's snarkiness and goldmine of tsukkomi totally shines thoroughly that i found myself laughing several times from its powerful ability to throw jabs at several intricacies and tendencies in otaku subculture. Now that is the kind of novels that i'd love Kamachi to write. No need for flashy actions or complicated worldbuilding like Index, but just a simple wordplays and strong sense of humor.


Well, that depends on what you read. If you read some of his earlier books, you may feel that way. After book 12 he's fantastic. Books 6 and on are pretty good. The first few have "some" problems, but no plotholes. Give me a single plot hole in this series? I haven't found one, and I've read many, many of the books.

I can say with about 98% confidence that there are no plotholes in this series...

Also, Touma punching women is bad if they're villains? That's pretty sexist (I'm a guy...). Maybe it was once Chivalrous, but this is a city of science, that cares about modern themes... not medieval themes like that... wrong setting...

I understand personal preference, but I disagree about the contrived premise. If his premise is one thing, it definitely isn't contrived. It's absolute genius.
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I just want more Index maaaaaan.

Though I want to check this out too.
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I don't know about a simple survey, but people thinking that Index is extremely good needs to read more LN. Or to choose what they read better imo. While the average quality goes up after the 11th volume indeed, it's still not enough to be called very good, let alone praising it even more.
Also, 9th volume of the first series is definitely the worst LN volume I ever read up to this day. And I sure hope that this fact will never change, as I'm not particularly into masochism ^^". I really enjoyed some of the volumes and the world build is fairly interesting, sure enough. If you're interested in that type of world (and I am), it's definitely worth the read. You're going to suffer for a while before passing the 11th volume though.
But is that enough to praise it as much as some people did it above, I don't think so. Kamachi has proven to be able to do really good stories, YES. But he's inconsistent with his quality. Hence, the average quality cannot be called very good, even by excluding the volumes 1 to 11.
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dniv said:

Amiluhur said:
Couldn't find myself interested with Index franchise at all (Both LN and anime). I dunno, i just find the premise and worldbuilding in Index very silly and mostly contrived and, like Nidhoeggr said, full of plotholes. And Touma's tendency to punch women at the face, even when they're villains, just made me cringe. On the other hand, i thoroughly enjoyed A simple survey LN on Baka-Tsuki. This one is just great. Kamachi's snarkiness and goldmine of tsukkomi totally shines thoroughly that i found myself laughing several times from its powerful ability to throw jabs at several intricacies and tendencies in otaku subculture. Now that is the kind of novels that i'd love Kamachi to write. No need for flashy actions or complicated worldbuilding like Index, but just a simple wordplays and strong sense of humor.


Well, that depends on what you read. If you read some of his earlier books, you may feel that way. After book 12 he's fantastic. Books 6 and on are pretty good. The first few have "some" problems, but no plotholes. Give me a single plot hole in this series? I haven't found one, and I've read many, many of the books.

I can say with about 98% confidence that there are no plotholes in this series...

Also, Touma punching women is bad if they're villains? That's pretty sexist (I'm a guy...). Maybe it was once Chivalrous, but this is a city of science, that cares about modern themes... not medieval themes like that... wrong setting...

I understand personal preference, but I disagree about the contrived premise. If his premise is one thing, it definitely isn't contrived. It's absolute genius.

I am 100% sure that there are no plotholes in Raildex YET.

As for punching female villains?Seriously?Were you THAT offended?

Dniv, I don't think that women had it better during medieval times or any other era.

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I don't know about a simple survey, but people thinking that Index is extremely good needs to read more LN. Or to choose what they read better imo. While the average quality goes up after the 11th volume indeed, it's still not enough to be called very good, let alone praising it even more.
Also, 9th volume of the first series is definitely the worst LN volume I ever read up to this day. And I sure hope that this fact will never change, as I'm not particularly into masochism ^^". I really enjoyed some of the volumes and the world build is fairly interesting, sure enough. If you're interested in that type of world (and I am), it's definitely worth the read. You're going to suffer for a while before passing the 11th volume though.
But is that enough to praise it as much as some people did it above, I don't think so. Kamachi has proven to be able to do really good stories, YES. But he's inconsistent with his quality. Hence, the average quality cannot be called very good, even by excluding the volumes 1 to 11.

I disagree.The worst of the volumes is the 11th.

The quality may be inconsistent, but the characters, powers, etc aren't.That is what I am looking for in a series.So far I see a series that the author(s) really likes him/her/themselves and doesn't ruin it, by random bullshit(See Bleach), just to keep it alive.Yes instead of Othinus he could just write about Aleister and end it.But the volumes are still good and don't make you wish it had ended arcs ago.
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That guy really needs to get a rest. Js06 is going to go into coma soon.

As a side note, he also write the scenario of the mobile game Million Arthur which is available in English in the Singapore and Malaysia store. Although I strongly suggest avoiding it unless you just want to read.




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Kazuma Kamachi, the author of the blessed Toaru series? I'm definitely excited to see what's next on his plate.


Same here!!
I still haven't watched any of the Toaru series yet, but I will surely watch them sooner or later, all of them.

icantfeelmyarms said:
Better animate the rest of Index and no more fucking Railgun.


Why not both??

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This guy must be on writing steroids or something; how can he write so many stories simultaneously?


Writing steroids.
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icantfeelmyarms said:
Better animate the rest of Index and no more fucking Railgun.


You mean you want them to continue the shitty adaptation instead of continuing the one which isn't shitty?

Index's anime suck. They paced it like retards (even went as far as adapting one whole novel in one single episode (your usual rushed series have 6 episodes per novel if that can say anything) because they were scared it wouldn't sell otherwise.
Things don't make sense, they excuse anything that lack explanation (that actually exist but they didn't put because of time constraint because of their retarded pacing) on it being magic or religious stuff.
Index is a weak attempt at making money.

Railgun's anime is a hundred of time better made than the train-wreak that is Index's anime.
I agree that Index could and should have better than Railgun tho, giving that it had much more potential.
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AngelAccelerator said:
I am 100% sure that there are no plotholes in Raildex YET.

Really? I guess you didn't watch the entire first season. Infodumps everywhere with barely any implications on later episodes, characters consistently spewing random things with little to no significance to their actions at hand, certain characters having "mysterious" power that the show didn't even bother to explain. If that's not plothole, then what is?

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As for punching female villains? Seriously? Were you THAT offended?

Just because it doesn't offend you doesn't mean it doesn't offend anybody else. Trying to justify everything based on your own preference is simply retarded and illogical.
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Amiluhur said:
AngelAccelerator said:
I am 100% sure that there are no plotholes in Raildex YET.

Really? I guess you didn't watch the entire first season. Infodumps everywhere with barely any implications on later episodes, characters consistently spewing random things with little to no significance to their actions at hand, certain characters having "mysterious" power that the show didn't even bother to explain. If that's not plothole, then what is?

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As for punching female villains? Seriously? Were you THAT offended?

Just because it doesn't offend you doesn't mean it doesn't offend anybody else. Trying to justify everything based on your own preference is simply retarded and illogical.

Talking out Railgun manga/novels and Index novels.
Now if you can talk about those and pinpoint those "plotholes" that would be a lot better than vague statements.

Why it bad to punch the villains/antagonists?
Sorry but THIS is what is retarded. Just because they are women? Would it be fine if they were men? As dniv said that is pretty sexist.
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Nowhere did i say that Touma punching women is bad, i just find myself offended by that. You can call me sexist as you want, i just don't like your apparent disregard by the fact that some people might find things differently than you do.

But whatever, since we're on two different sides from each other, i'll just leave it at that.
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Nowhere did i say that Touma punching women is bad, i just find myself offended by that. You can call me sexist as you want, i just don't like your apparent disregard by the fact that some people might find things differently than you do.

But whatever, since we're on two different sides from each other, i'll just leave it at that.

I think that when people are offended by something they do find it bad but ok...
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You guys are forgetting how popular and successful this series is so it really doesn't matter whether you want a third season or not. It's most likely going to happen.
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Touma punching women is a big plus for me.

I thought Index was paced really well, so that's a weird criticism to me. I haven't read the LN's, just the anime.

But Railgun really does steal the show. Those two series were fantastic. The first season really blew me away
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Touma punching women is a big plus for me.

I thought Index was paced really well, so that's a weird criticism to me. I haven't read the LN's, just the anime.

But Railgun really does steal the show. Those two series were fantastic. The first season really blew me away


Index season 1 = 6 volumes
Index season 2 = 8 volumes

No, the anime adaptations were rushed like hell.
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Touma punching women is a big plus for me.

I thought Index was paced really well, so that's a weird criticism to me. I haven't read the LN's, just the anime.

But Railgun really does steal the show. Those two series were fantastic. The first season really blew me away


Index season 1 = 6 volumes
Index season 2 = 8 volumes

No, the anime adaptations were rushed like hell.


To put this into perspective, 6 episodes a volume is pretty much standard and it is considered rushed in most cases.

Some series are even more rushed than that, index is sadly one of them.
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I wonder if this will be another Toaru series or a completely different LN
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