Hunter x Hunter (2011) Episode 124 Discussion

a_cloud said:
Killua got what he wanted , but man ....crying like a baby... low...

MCAL said:
Honestly if this isn't the episode (And there have been plenty of other episodes I could say this) that makes you realize why Hunter x Hunter is the best shounen ever and that Togashi is the best shounen mangaka then there's no hope for you.

MCAL said:
Honestly if this isn't the episode (And there have been plenty of other episodes I could say this) that makes you realize why Hunter x Hunter is the best shounen ever and that Togashi is the best shounen mangaka then there's no hope for you.

tsudecimo said:

I don't know what's worse. The fact that you thought this provactive comment was needed, or you choosing this episode to say something like this.

''hurr durr me fav anime is the best and if these high quality epz doesn't make u realize how me fav anime iz da best then there iz no hope for you u just have shit taste XDDD''

At least pick a non cliche episode, if you want to make such a bold, idiotic and provactive statement.

tsudecimo said:

I don't know what's worse. The fact that you thought this provactive comment was needed, or you choosing this episode to say something like this.

''hurr durr me fav anime is the best and if these high quality epz doesn't make u realize how me fav anime iz da best then there iz no hope for you u just have shit taste XDDD''

At least pick a non cliche episode, if you want to make such a bold, idiotic and provactive statement.

KitsuneKomugi said:


I think that's what makes him interesting, his inability to cope with the changes around him and the fact he's more in tune with his Ant instincts, which makes him very mentally unstable and dangerous, which in a way makes me like him, not my favourite RG, that would be Youpi or Pitou. Plus if you think he's a devious bastard now, just wait

ValeBreck said:
Loved the ost that plays at 16:44

kurious said:
Anyone got any ideas of who the girl talking with gon in the preview might be? Also the dialog of thoose two might be a hint for a continuation of the manga?

SaSa-Zoldyck said:
Just watched the episode review of a youtuber **cough* forneverworld*cough cough** and some of the things he said made me raise my eyebrows. Than I come here and read MrAM post and what a difference, I have a feeling that the wrong people are reviewing this amazing series lol.

MrAM said:
This episode...

Killua crying was incredibly hard to watch. The look of absolute sorrow on his face, his tears, the cracks in his voice...it was heartbreaking, especially since he's my favorite character. Suffice to say I was glad with how this episode ended.
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Togashi continues to be subtle with the positions his characters use. Killua's blocking formation with his arms was the same one he used when fighting against the Bomber's partner back in Greed Island. I though that was a nice touch.

judals said:
and people say the Narrator is useless.... his line made me cringe... in a good way. Damn.

Minagatachi said:
Great episode. Glad to see Palm is back, and she's got a power up! Makes things good for the Hunters. Not useless, just excessive at times. He was good in this episode. I enjoy episodes like this when the narrator doesn't unnecessarily narrate.

katsu044 said:


take it were at the half point now or just over it for this arc?.

MrAM said:
This episode...

Killua crying was incredibly hard to watch. The look of absolute sorrow on his face, his tears, the cracks in his voice...it was heartbreaking, especially since he's my favorite character. Suffice to say I was glad with how this episode ended.

But wow...there was some really fascinating stuff here! The best material had to do with Killua, of course. This moment had been built up over the CA arc, and in many ways it is just as important as Gon's development. Gon and Killua's relationship has been a focal point the whole series, but it's especially crucial in this arc, because for the first time its being put to the test. Killua has always been used to having Gon as his guiding light, and even made it his personal mission to always look out for Gon.

The dynamic between them has been fundamentally changed now, ever since Gon saw Kit's current state back in episode 95. Gon, in many ways, has ceased being Killua's light, even if the latter still desperately wants it to be so. But in his hatred of the Chimera Ants and quest for vengeance, Gon has fundamentally become a different person. His cheerful, genial, and kind-hearted characteristics are what attracted Killua to him in the first place. Killua was forced to grow up from a young age; he never had a chance to be a normal child with normal friends who had fun like any other kid in the world. He finally found that with Gon: a chance to be a child again. Gon's innocence and purity became the center of his world.

That's why Gon's change is so devastating to Killua. The innocence, the purity, the fun of Gon's personality is fading away before his eyes. Killua, throughout this arc, has repeatedly risked his life over and over for Gon's sake, always put Gon first, and what does he get in return? Nothing. Gon doesn't notice him anymore, doesn't actually BE his friend. Killua is on his way again to being alone, and there's nothing he could do about it.

That's the primary reason that Killua is so pained, and why he completely broke down in this episode: he thinks there's nothing he can do. Killua's always been about control, to the point of obsession. As an assassin, he overthinks and analyzes every situation, no matter how trivial. This aspect of his character became abundantly clear in Yorknew, and continued into Greed Island, and became most prominent in Chimera Ant. Killua's rational, pragmatic approach to every thing he did has always been one of his biggest flaws, and it cost him a lot in earlier arcs and in this one as well. If he can't be sure he has complete certainty about how a situation will unfold and that he has the ability to control the sequence of events, he begins to worry, to back out. It was why earlier in the series he never attacked an opponent stronger than him.

Now he's in a similar situation with Gon; he sees what's happening, and he feels utterly helpless to prevent it. Being Killua, he tried to put on a brave face, to pretend everything was alright, that all the variables were under control. Here's the thing though: Killua really is helpless. He was the first one to stray from the plan, ironically, when the invasion began; for all his planning, Killua simply can't anticipate everything. He may be a professional assassin, but he's still only 13-years-old.

It's especially saddening because it calls back what Gon told Killua back in the Yorknew arc, when they were trying to escape from Nobunaga: that it was Gon's job to do idiotic things, and it was Killua's job to stop him. That exact situation is playing out now, in a far more dire matter than either boy could have foreseen. Gon is indeed acting like an idiot, and Killua managed to halt him a bit back when he almost attacked Komugi...but that's it. Neither can help one another much at this point.

That's why I appreciated the ending of the episode so much, though. By indirectly bringing Palm back, Killua just proved himself that he CAN do something. He isn't as useless as he thinks he is, and that's what Palm tells him. The fact that he told Palm that he thinks that she's the only one who can help Gon indicates just how far his opinion of himself has fallen. It's extremely sad, really.

Also, note that it was Killua's crying that brought Palm back. His blatant display of humanity is what returned it to Palm. Not the most original twist in the story, but very fitting here.

About Palm...her new outfit looked pretty awesome actually. Her attacks as Black Widow were nice to watch. I really liked how Togashi used Palm to basically demonstrate the position of every Chimera Ant. What we saw here was a Palm with her memories, but not the sentimental emotions attached to them. Basically, an extreme of her usual self. Her desire to kill Killua is simply a radical representation of the jealousy she felt towards him when she was still human. Her inexplicable desire to see Gon is for the same reason. As an Ant with past human memories but no humanity to accompany them, Palm was a monster who used aggressive and violent means to reach her goals.

And again we see the ever-present theme of humanity and how it relates to the Ants. The Narrator states that the experiments the Ants carried out revealed that Ants who had memories of their past lives had greater mental fortitude, and that these memories could aid in their growth or deterrence. Deterrence happens, apparently, when memories led to emotional reactions. The brilliance of all that is that it describes with utter precision what has been happening to the Chimera Ants. Yes, memories can indeed aid in the growth and deterrence of soldiers, because they humanize the soldiers. They become capable of using Nen abilities, of acting like normal, thinking humans, but with it they allow their emotions and desires to dictate their actions, thereby fracturing the unified and orderly structure of the Ants.

Togashi continues to be subtle with the positions his characters use. Killua's blocking formation with his arms was the same one he used when fighting against the Bomber's partner back in Greed Island. I though that was a nice touch.

SaSa-Zoldyck said:
Just watched the episode review of a youtuber **cough* forneverworld*cough cough** and some of the things he said made me raise my eyebrows. Than I come here and read MrAM post and what a difference, I have a feeling that the wrong people are reviewing this amazing series lol.

SetsukoHara said:
If you want good YT review of HxH, you should probably check uberhikari channel.

MrAM said:
This episode...

Killua crying was incredibly hard to watch. The look of absolute sorrow on his face, his tears, the cracks in his voice...it was heartbreaking, especially since he's my favorite character. Suffice to say I was glad with how this episode ended.

But wow...there was some really fascinating stuff here! The best material had to do with Killua, of course. This moment had been built up over the CA arc, and in many ways it is just as important as Gon's development. Gon and Killua's relationship has been a focal point the whole series, but it's especially crucial in this arc, because for the first time its being put to the test. Killua has always been used to having Gon as his guiding light, and even made it his personal mission to always look out for Gon.

The dynamic between them has been fundamentally changed now, ever since Gon saw Kit's current state back in episode 95. Gon, in many ways, has ceased being Killua's light, even if the latter still desperately wants it to be so. But in his hatred of the Chimera Ants and quest for vengeance, Gon has fundamentally become a different person. His cheerful, genial, and kind-hearted characteristics are what attracted Killua to him in the first place. Killua was forced to grow up from a young age; he never had a chance to be a normal child with normal friends who had fun like any other kid in the world. He finally found that with Gon: a chance to be a child again. Gon's innocence and purity became the center of his world.

That's why Gon's change is so devastating to Killua. The innocence, the purity, the fun of Gon's personality is fading away before his eyes. Killua, throughout this arc, has repeatedly risked his life over and over for Gon's sake, always put Gon first, and what does he get in return? Nothing. Gon doesn't notice him anymore, doesn't actually BE his friend. Killua is on his way again to being alone, and there's nothing he could do about it.

That's the primary reason that Killua is so pained, and why he completely broke down in this episode: he thinks there's nothing he can do. Killua's always been about control, to the point of obsession. As an assassin, he overthinks and analyzes every situation, no matter how trivial. This aspect of his character became abundantly clear in Yorknew, and continued into Greed Island, and became most prominent in Chimera Ant. Killua's rational, pragmatic approach to every thing he did has always been one of his biggest flaws, and it cost him a lot in earlier arcs and in this one as well. If he can't be sure he has complete certainty about how a situation will unfold and that he has the ability to control the sequence of events, he begins to worry, to back out. It was why earlier in the series he never attacked an opponent stronger than him.

Now he's in a similar situation with Gon; he sees what's happening, and he feels utterly helpless to prevent it. Being Killua, he tried to put on a brave face, to pretend everything was alright, that all the variables were under control. Here's the thing though: Killua really is helpless. He was the first one to stray from the plan, ironically, when the invasion began; for all his planning, Killua simply can't anticipate everything. He may be a professional assassin, but he's still only 13-years-old.

It's especially saddening because it calls back what Gon told Killua back in the Yorknew arc, when they were trying to escape from Nobunaga: that it was Gon's job to do idiotic things, and it was Killua's job to stop him. That exact situation is playing out now, in a far more dire matter than either boy could have foreseen. Gon is indeed acting like an idiot, and Killua managed to halt him a bit back when he almost attacked Komugi...but that's it. Neither can help one another much at this point.

That's why I appreciated the ending of the episode so much, though. By indirectly bringing Palm back, Killua just proved himself that he CAN do something. He isn't as useless as he thinks he is, and that's what Palm tells him. The fact that he told Palm that he thinks that she's the only one who can help Gon indicates just how far his opinion of himself has fallen. It's extremely sad, really.

Also, note that it was Killua's crying that brought Palm back. His blatant display of humanity is what returned it to Palm. Not the most original twist in the story, but very fitting here.

About Palm...her new outfit looked pretty awesome actually. Her attacks as Black Widow were nice to watch. I really liked how Togashi used Palm to basically demonstrate the position of every Chimera Ant. What we saw here was a Palm with her memories, but not the sentimental emotions attached to them. Basically, an extreme of her usual self. Her desire to kill Killua is simply a radical representation of the jealousy she felt towards him when she was still human. Her inexplicable desire to see Gon is for the same reason. As an Ant with past human memories but no humanity to accompany them, Palm was a monster who used aggressive and violent means to reach her goals.

And again we see the ever-present theme of humanity and how it relates to the Ants. The Narrator states that the experiments the Ants carried out revealed that Ants who had memories of their past lives had greater mental fortitude, and that these memories could aid in their growth or deterrence. Deterrence happens, apparently, when memories led to emotional reactions. The brilliance of all that is that it describes with utter precision what has been happening to the Chimera Ants. Yes, memories can indeed aid in the growth and deterrence of soldiers, because they humanize the soldiers. They become capable of using Nen abilities, of acting like normal, thinking humans, but with it they allow their emotions and desires to dictate their actions, thereby fracturing the unified and orderly structure of the Ants.

Togashi continues to be subtle with the positions his characters use. Killua's blocking formation with his arms was the same one he used when fighting against the Bomber's partner back in Greed Island. I though that was a nice touch.

Cheesekao said:

According to one of the staff, the arc will end at episode 135 and they'll animate the election arc after that.

Person in question:
https://twitter.com/mountful

I don't know when that tweet was but there's one on April 4 that pretty much confirms it. Google translate sort of works, so yeah.

Well I changed my statement somewhat and by the way, I actually did explain why I thought Hunter x Hunter was so fantastic in my second paragraph. So not like I said it without some words to back it up.

iLostreason said:
i didnt say he's not interesting, because he is.Its just that i personally hate him for being who he is (right now).He respects King so much, yet he doesnt follow his orders.He says he wants to protect him? bs, he just cant stand that others are changing.He doesnt even try to understand why its happening.He just wants to ''protect'' King, while actually King doesnt need any help from him.Gotta say that hes an intriguing character tho, and im looking forward to see what will happen next.I just hope that King will beat something into him...if its not too late ._.

Eutass said:
Killua got afraid of Palm and surrendered and decided to buy some time. I am actually confused what just happened to him after that. Was he seriously crying or just buying some time?

Amazing Pouf!

GuusWayne said:
Gon isn't a true friend, sure he can do stupid things but there is a limit to that shit. He's also a hypocrite and his rage is unjustified.