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Apr 4, 2014 1:02 PM

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spyrocoot said:
Zergneedsfood said:
He doesn't hang around here anymore, but I think Yakub's review is mostly spot on. People should probably say his review was helpful for the simple fact he does a good job of deconstructing Cowboy Bebop into its pieces and being pretty fair and objective with his review.




You're a smart guy.
Apr 4, 2014 1:06 PM

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I thought it was pretty good but only ended up giving it an 8, just not my type of show I guess
Apr 4, 2014 1:15 PM

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BlackSabotage said:
You're a smart guy.


Thanks man =D

Zergneedsfood said:
I think that's why I consider his Cowboy Bebop review to be the best of his reviews. I really do think he gives the anime a much more fair and objective evaluation than some of the other more provocative reviews that he's written that I don't think where up to par.

I guess I just agree with him that solid audiovisuals does not make a masterpiece, and I personally could not get into Bebop for a lot of the reasons other people ascribe to it. But again, as I said at the beginning of this thread, this could very well just be the fact that I dislike Watanabe's anime.

And thanks. I try my best. ><


As someone that's watched it all through twice I can perfectly understand why it may not be everyone's cup of tea, even if I disagree with your assessment that it's only solid audiovisuals. I just think Yakub is given more credit than he deserves, and unlike MahoganyCow or SchrodingersMatt his reviews aren't made in the spirit of helping which pisses me off a little.
Apr 4, 2014 1:17 PM

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Fact:
Bebop shits on all your favorite episodic anime shows. Besides Mushishi.
Apr 4, 2014 1:24 PM

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SmashTehCookie said:
Fact:
Bebop shits on all your favorite episodic anime shows. Besides Mushishi.


So rude :(
Apr 4, 2014 1:25 PM

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I liked it. If you don't like an episodic anime you'll probably fucking hate it.
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Apr 4, 2014 1:28 PM

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High_Five_Ghost said:
When I watched it I felt so underwhelmed by it. I love Steven Blum. I love Shinichirō Watanabe's other work (Samurai Champloo is one of my favourite anime and Kids on the Slope got me into jazz). I love the soundtrack. But I went in expecting the greatest anime of all time because that was what everyone called it. I guess my expectations were too high. It really wasn't bad but I felt so underwhelmed by the story and the ending. Did anyone else feel this way? I'm probably in the minority because I've never seen anyone give it a score lower than 9.


I gave it a much lower score and I agree that it's overrated. Relying too much on the visuals, instead of plot and well-developed characters was a major disappointment for me. The animation is the last thing I consider when judging a show, even though I don't neglect it either. But I can understand an high rating, if you can forget everything besides the visuals.
Apr 4, 2014 1:35 PM

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SmashTehCookie said:
Fact:
Bebop shits on all your favorite episodic anime shows. Besides Mushishi.


Galaxy Express 999 begs to differ.
Apr 4, 2014 1:44 PM

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You're the only one. You're not just any snowflake, you're a special mcspeshy butterfly with wings every color of the rainbow. You fly into worlds that the rest of humanity can only dream of.
Apr 4, 2014 1:46 PM

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Ratohnhaketon said:
You're the only one. You're not just any snowflake, you're a special mcspeshy butterfly with wings every color of the rainbow. You fly into worlds that the rest of humanity can only dream of.


How much I gotta pay to rape your avatar?
Apr 4, 2014 1:48 PM

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Cowboy Bebop wasn't particularly bad but I just don't like episodic anime in general. I also thought the dubbed version was decent (this is coming from a person that watches subbed anime 99.9% of the time)

Apr 4, 2014 1:54 PM
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Cowboy Bebop was fun for when I saw it, but its not pleasant knowing that its one of those anime that those 1990 Neo-Nazi anime fans hold in high regard.

You know the people who adore every and any anime from the 1990s (LOTGH being their flagship show) but claim anything from after 2000 is complete shit, and make a violent effort to get others to join their crusade against any anime after the dawn of Haruhi Suzumiya.
Apr 4, 2014 1:55 PM

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Zeally said:
Cowboy Bebop wasn't particularly bad but I just don't like episodic anime in general. I also thought the dubbed version was decent (this is coming from a person that watches subbed anime 99.9% of the time)
if you thought that the bebop dub was just decent then is your definition of a good dub is something that gives you orgasms just from hearing it?
Just because you know how to use a torrent does not give you the god given right to pirate.

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Apr 4, 2014 2:00 PM

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No you are not the only one.
Bebop is easily one of the worst anime I've ever seen and I still don't understand how anyone can give it a 10/10 rating.
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BlackSabotage said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
You're the only one. You're not just any snowflake, you're a special mcspeshy butterfly with wings every color of the rainbow. You fly into worlds that the rest of humanity can only dream of.


How much I gotta pay to rape your avatar?


I'll give it to you for free, I've been trying to change it to a new gif for a week. Fucking MAL man...

@ OP - I gave it an 8. Enjoyable and well done but not my messiah.
Apr 4, 2014 2:03 PM

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I didn't think Bebop was bad, I saw it on the tube when it aired before Inuyasha, at 4am. But i never took time to finish the series.

As far as episodial anime goes, i'm extremely picky.
Apr 4, 2014 2:03 PM

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Guys can we at least agree that Spike is not cool?
Apr 4, 2014 2:05 PM

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tsudecimo said:
Guys can we at least agree that Spike is not cool?


Then who in your opinion is a cool anime character?
Apr 4, 2014 2:06 PM

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Ratohnhaketon said:
BlackSabotage said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
You're the only one. You're not just any snowflake, you're a special mcspeshy butterfly with wings every color of the rainbow. You fly into worlds that the rest of humanity can only dream of.


How much I gotta pay to rape your avatar?


I'll give it to you for free, I've been trying to change it to a new gif for a week. Fucking MAL man...

@ OP - I gave it an 8. Enjoyable and well done but not my messiah.


Have any idea why my Sig isn't working right?
Apr 4, 2014 2:06 PM

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Op's thought's: Ow shit i didn't see whats is so great about Bebob. Need to find people fast to drop this anime down even more right now!

All i can say is, you don't have to like it and rewatch it probably won't change it. But people who did gave it a 10 and have it in there top 5 know that it is a shame for people to never truly feel this very special master piece. Bebop isn't a master piece by the book. But 10 raters know it is just one of those view classics that just feels like a legend piece of work. Some classics you just need to feel and this anime is not made for all kinds of people so some would never feel it. Which is a shame for those guys that they are missing something this good. But you know different taste and all can't be helped. For me Bebop is still the number one on anime ground. Like LOTR is in the movie business. In the end it is all about how deep it can touch you. Where FMAB was good in it's overall. Bebob carved really deep in my hart. I don't know how to explain it otherwise. It's like animating your most beautiful dream and have it end up just like you imagined, like when you watch it you get the same feel when you dreamed it. And dreams don't go by the book.
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Apr 4, 2014 2:06 PM

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tsudecimo said:
Guys can we at least agree that Spike is not cool?


Cooler than any Naruto character though, for sure.
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BlackSabotage said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
BlackSabotage said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
You're the only one. You're not just any snowflake, you're a special mcspeshy butterfly with wings every color of the rainbow. You fly into worlds that the rest of humanity can only dream of.


How much I gotta pay to rape your avatar?


I'll give it to you for free, I've been trying to change it to a new gif for a week. Fucking MAL man...

@ OP - I gave it an 8. Enjoyable and well done but not my messiah.


Have any idea why my Sig isn't working right?
the img bb code hasnt worked for a while
Just because you know how to use a torrent does not give you the god given right to pirate.

My actual list: https://kitsu.io/users/mattbenz99/library

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Reciprocal said:
tsudecimo said:
Guys can we at least agree that Spike is not cool?


Cooler than any Naruto character though, for sure.


^

Apr 4, 2014 2:08 PM

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mattbenz99 said:
BlackSabotage said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
BlackSabotage said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
You're the only one. You're not just any snowflake, you're a special mcspeshy butterfly with wings every color of the rainbow. You fly into worlds that the rest of humanity can only dream of.


How much I gotta pay to rape your avatar?


I'll give it to you for free, I've been trying to change it to a new gif for a week. Fucking MAL man...

@ OP - I gave it an 8. Enjoyable and well done but not my messiah.


Have any idea why my Sig isn't working right?
the img bb code hasnt worked for a while


Huh any one know why?
Apr 4, 2014 2:09 PM

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BlackSabotage said:

Huh any one know why?


Because SSJ Master disposes.
Apr 4, 2014 2:12 PM

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Ratohnhaketon said:
BlackSabotage said:

Huh any one know why?


Because SSJ Master disposes.


:/
Apr 4, 2014 2:13 PM

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Zeally said:
Reciprocal said:
tsudecimo said:
Guys can we at least agree that Spike is not cool?


Cooler than any Naruto character though, for sure.


^

Itachi kicks Spike's ass any day.
Apr 4, 2014 2:13 PM

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tsudecimo said:
Guys can we at least agree that Spike is not cool?


He's cooler than your avatar.
Apr 4, 2014 2:13 PM

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It's ok. but nothing special. I don't like episodic anime. It feels like I'm watching a cartoon. if I wanted to watch cartoon. I would watch teen titans which is way better than bebob.
Apr 4, 2014 2:16 PM

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Reciprocal said:
tsudecimo said:
Guys can we at least agree that Spike is not cool?


Cooler than any Naruto character though, for sure.

Pfft.


BlackSabotage said:
tsudecimo said:
Guys can we at least agree that Spike is not cool?


Then who in your opinion is a cool anime character?

Idk, at least a couple of hundreds.

I didn't watch Ashita no Joe and LoGH, but Joe and Wang look cooler than Spike.
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RandomPerson4 said:
Zeally said:
Reciprocal said:
tsudecimo said:
Guys can we at least agree that Spike is not cool?


Cooler than any Naruto character though, for sure.


^

Itachi kicks Spike's ass any day.

^
Apr 4, 2014 2:17 PM

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SetsukoHara said:
tsudecimo said:
Guys can we at least agree that Spike is not cool?


He's cooler than your avatar.

That hurt me deeply.
Apr 4, 2014 2:18 PM

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tsudecimo said:
Reciprocal said:
tsudecimo said:
Guys can we at least agree that Spike is not cool?


Cooler than any Naruto character though, for sure.

Pfft.



Lame.
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tsudecimo said:
BlackSabotage said:
tsudecimo said:
Guys can we at least agree that Spike is not cool?


Then who in your opinion is a cool anime character?

Idk, at least a couple of hundreds.

I didn't watch Ashita no Joe and LoGH, but Joe and yang look cooler than Spike.
Overall they're hundreds of times better characters than Spike
Apr 4, 2014 2:46 PM
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Is Gintoki Sakata cooler than Spike?
Apr 4, 2014 2:48 PM

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Fusion_ha said:
Is Gintoki Sakata cooler than Spike?
But of course.
Apr 4, 2014 2:49 PM

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Fusion_ha said:
Is Gintoki Sakata cooler than Spike?
Ow i gotta admit that is true. But bebop is not specially a master piece for it's characters. Heck i don't think characters are giving the final push for a master piece. Yet they are important indeed.
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Apr 4, 2014 3:09 PM
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Cowboy Bepop is the Fast & Furious of the anime world,it sucks big time yet everyone loves it...except for me.
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arikatoki said:
Cowboy Bepop is the Fast & Furious of the anime world,it sucks big time yet everyone loves it...except for me.

Can't handle awesome cars? Go play with your dolls.
Apr 4, 2014 3:14 PM

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Even Naruto is better than Cowboy Bebop.
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RandomPerson4 said:

Can't handle awesome cars? Go play with your dolls.


Im not really interested in 2 1/2 hours of pointless car-drifting,shitty dialogs and EXTREMLY bad acting...sorry if thats a dissapointment for you.

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Even Naruto is better than Cowboy Bebop.


in every single aspect.
Apr 4, 2014 3:49 PM

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Yes you are.
Shame on you!
Apr 4, 2014 3:58 PM

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jayss said:
tsudecimo said:
BlackSabotage said:
tsudecimo said:
Guys can we at least agree that Spike is not cool?


Then who in your opinion is a cool anime character?

Idk, at least a couple of hundreds.

I didn't watch Ashita no Joe and LoGH, but Joe and yang look cooler than Spike.
Overall they're hundreds of times better characters than Spike


Joe is certainly more evil than Spike. Yang is cool but in a subtle way.
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MrAwesome2014 said:
Even Naruto is better than Cowboy Bebop.


Yeah. Because Naruto is Fillertastic!
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I don't care about it. Especially when people, uh, bring it into points like "you haven't watched anine praised for its substance such as cowboy bepop and whatnot. Watch them first before you complain about other shows."

Such arguments actually drive me away from even watching said things.
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What frustrated me was the fact that it was episodic....

I would've preferred a more cohesive storyline.

BUT, that didn't change the fact that I loved the characters, the setting, the music, and the fact that it was an anime that was not in a fucking Japanese Highschool.

I gave it a solid 8/10
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JustALEX said:
What frustrated me was the fact that it was episodic....

I would've preferred a more cohesive storyline.

BUT, that didn't change the fact that I loved the characters, the setting, the music, and the fact that it was an anime that was not in a fucking Japanese Highschool.

I gave it a solid 8/10


Oh god what's with everyone and hating episodic anime? Its not like the stories weren't even a continuation of each other.
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MrAwesome2014 said:
Even Naruto is better than Cowboy Bebop.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAKA! BAAAAAAAAAAKA! Shine!
Apr 4, 2014 4:19 PM

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Nah man I didnt care for it as well. Also gurren lagann too, just not my type of shows
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tsudecimo said:
Guys can we at least agree that Spike is not cool?

He's the coolest character obviously.

In all seriousness, quite a lot of people dislike Cowboy Bebop from what I can see. Because of it's praise, or episodic style. Despite this it gets really high ratings on most websites.
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